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Cicero
March 17th, 2013, 09:17 PM
What Christian denomination are you? If you're not apart of the Christian faith, there is no need to say "None" or anything like that. If you are apart of a different Christian branch that's not listed, then feel free to post your denomination.
Abyssal Echo
March 17th, 2013, 09:24 PM
most denominations don't want anything to do with me so all I claim to be is Christian/Protestant
PinkFloyd
March 17th, 2013, 09:35 PM
Well my family is Lutheran as with most of Minnesota, but I view myself as agnostic meaning I am unsure. I'm the bisexual equivelant of religion.
IAMWILL
March 17th, 2013, 11:45 PM
I was baptized Presbyterian but I'm a practicing Catholic so I answered Catholic.
anyone50
March 18th, 2013, 02:17 AM
My parents are fairly devoted Christians and i consider myself Christian just not as devoted
Stronger
March 18th, 2013, 06:02 AM
Catholic, but I don't really practice it or anything.
xmojox
March 18th, 2013, 10:53 AM
I was brought up in the Church, but not so much, anymore. I do like going to mass on Christmas Eve, though, because it's pretty with all the candles. :)
Twilly F. Sniper
March 18th, 2013, 07:40 PM
I went to church when I was littler. I read the bible, and not discriminating against people that are Christian; it was as BSy as it could get. (Atheist)
workingatperfect
March 18th, 2013, 08:12 PM
I was baptized in a non-denominational church I believe (It was just Bazetta Christian Church so idk) but I no longer consider myself Christian.
Jess
March 18th, 2013, 08:22 PM
Before I became atheist I went to a Lutheran Church (and I guess I got baptized there)...
Stronk Serb
March 22nd, 2013, 02:55 AM
Serbian Orthodox Church. Before Serbia gained independence, the Serbe were under Austrian and Turkish rule, those empires wished to convert my people to Islam and Catholicism. The Serbian Orthodox Church fought for the preservation of the Serbian national identity, language and customs.
crepesuzette
March 23rd, 2013, 12:38 AM
i was not raised christian, but then i converted to christianity at age 12. I did it during a time of depression and I'm not sure if i truly converted. I now feel like I don't really affiliate myself with any religion, since I'm not devout or practicing.
now that i think about it, i don't wish to be a part of any and no matter what a person says or does, it won't change me.
unknownuser
March 24th, 2013, 04:44 AM
Catholic.
Harley Quinn
March 24th, 2013, 06:01 AM
I was raised Catholic and got all three stages: Baptisism, Holy Communion and Confirmation, being in an Irish family it's the norm. I went to Catholic schools so everything in my life has been Catholic. I, however, am not a Catholic.
JoeHillsTSD
March 24th, 2013, 06:08 AM
My parents are dedicated Pentecostal and Baptists. They use to take me to church every Sunday when I was little but stopped going around age 11 or 12. I read a small portion of the bible last year but I'm unsure. I just identify as Christian when people ask me. I'm not dedicated or anything like that right now, but I do believe in god.
crepesuzette
March 24th, 2013, 06:54 PM
christian, but i don't feel like practicing it anymore.
SaxyHaloBeast
March 24th, 2013, 06:56 PM
I'm confused, why isn't LDS an option?
CaliforniaMatt
March 24th, 2013, 06:57 PM
I'm orthodox by birth, atheist by choice
Cicero
March 24th, 2013, 08:28 PM
I'm confused, why isn't LDS an option?
It's not really Christian, their teachings are so off based from Christianity.
SaxyHaloBeast
March 24th, 2013, 09:36 PM
It's not really Christian, their teachings are so off based from Christianity.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints isn't Christian? Jesus Christ is in the title. The Church uses the same Bible as other Christian churches. How is it not Christian?
Cicero
March 24th, 2013, 09:44 PM
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints isn't Christian? Jesus Christ is in the title. The Church uses the same Bible as other Christian churches. How is it not Christian?
Wow! Jesus' name is in the title? So that must mean its automatically Christian! Not. Not only does general Christianity believe that Mormonism isn't apart of Christianity but branches other branches of Christianity says that Mormonism isn't apart of Christianity. The only real people who believe Mormonism is apart of Christianity is the Mormons themselves. Roman Catholics, Baptists, Protestant, etc. all discredit the claim that Mormonism is Christianity.
Mormonism is not Christian because it denies that there is only one God, denies the true Gospel, adds works to salvation, denies that Jesus is the uncreated creator, distorts the biblical teaching of the atonement, undermines the authority and reliability of the Bible, says that God used to be a man who came from another planet, that we can become gods, that there is a goddess mother in heaven, etc.
CARM does not deny that Mormons are decent helpful people and that they do many good things. But that isn't what makes someone Christian - nor does putting "Jesus Christ" in your title make you Christian if you deny who Jesus really is. Jesus said in Matthew 7:21-23, "Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' shall enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day, 'Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in Your name, cast out demons in Your name, and done many wonders in Your name? And then I will declare to them, 'I never knew you; depart from Me, you who practice lawlessness!" (NKJV).
Notice that Jesus condemns those who combine their faith with their works in order to be saved. If you doubt that, see also Luke 18:9-14 where Jesus teaches the same thing again.
Becoming a Christian does not mean belonging to a church, doing good things, or simply believing in a god from another planet. Being a Christian means that you have trusted in the true God for salvation, received the True Jesus -- not the brother of the devil, not the god of Mormonism, not the gospel of Mormonism. Becoming a Christian means believing the gospel of Christ, who is God in flesh, 2nd person of the Trinity, who was sent by the Father, bore our sins in his body on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24), died, was buried and rose again (1 Cor. 15:1-4). You must trust Jesus. Believe what he did. Put your faith in him.
Read more at:
http://carm.org/is-mormonism-christian
1) Mormons are polytheists, not monotheists. That is, they believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three separate beings, thus denying the essential monotheistic statements of both the OT and NT that God is One.
2) Mormons, thus, not surprisingly, deny the doctrine of the Trinity, calling it an amalgam of Greek ideas with Biblical ideas. Their basic view is that the original doctrine of God and of the ‘priesthood’ and key ideas about sacrifice, and leadership of the NT era were lost, as the church became entirely apostate and needed to be renewed, and that the NT church was not renewed until Joseph Smith came along in the 19th century (who btw, had an interest in Methodism whilst he was in Palmyra N.Y. and apparently took part in some of the revivals in the ‘Burnt Over District’ there in the first part of the 19th century). Mormons see the ecumenical councils which produced the Nicean creed or the Apostle’s Creed or the Chalcedonian creed as in essence contradictory to what Scripture teaches.
3) Mormons believe that even God the Father has, and apparently, needs a body, denying that God in the divine nature is spirit. Indeed they believe that God the Father is an exalted man!
4) Just as they believe that the early church became apostate, they also believe the Bible as we have it is not inerrant or always truthful and trustworthy, even on major issues like Christology, and therefore needs to be supplemented (and corrected) by subsequent prophetic revelation in documents like the Book of Mormon, or even The Pearl of Great Price.
5) in terms of soteriology, Mormons deny the sufficiency of Christ’s death for salvation. They suggest, as the linked article says, that each of us must do all we can and then trust in the mercy of God. In other words, the de facto position is that Mormonism is to a significant degree a works religion even when it comes to salvation.
6) The goal of Mormon soteriology is that we all become as ‘gods’ become both immortal and divine, blurring the creator/creature distinction which was already badly blurred by a theology that suggested that God is actually a sort of uber-human being, with less flaws. One rather familiar teaching is ‘as God was, so we are. As God is, so we shall be’.
I bring this issue up now, because of the general ignorance of the American public about whether or not Mormons are actually Christians or not. If they really embrace the official positions of their religious group, they are not Christians, though they often present themselves as such, for example, calling their meeting places churches sometimes (but notice— no crosses to be found on top, or worn either).
Read more at:
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/bibleandculture/2012/08/27/why-mormons-are-not-christians-the-issue-of-christology/
http://www.patheos.com/blogs/bibleandculture/2012/08/27/why-mormons-are-not-christians-the-issue-of-christology/
stev
March 24th, 2013, 09:47 PM
Pentacostal
SaxyHaloBeast
March 25th, 2013, 11:36 AM
"1) Mormons are polytheists, not monotheists. That is, they believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three separate beings, thus denying the essential monotheistic statements of both the OT and NT that God is One.
2) Mormons, thus, not surprisingly, deny the doctrine of the Trinity, calling it an amalgam of Greek ideas with Biblical ideas. Their basic view is that the original doctrine of God and of the ‘priesthood’ and key ideas about sacrifice, and leadership of the NT era were lost, as the church became entirely apostate and needed to be renewed, and that the NT church was not renewed until Joseph Smith came along in the 19th century (who btw, had an interest in Methodism whilst he was in Palmyra N.Y. and apparently took part in some of the revivals in the ‘Burnt Over District’ there in the first part of the 19th century). Mormons see the ecumenical councils which produced the Nicean creed or the Apostle’s Creed or the Chalcedonian creed as in essence contradictory to what Scripture teaches.
3) Mormons believe that even God the Father has, and apparently, needs a body, denying that God in the divine nature is spirit. Indeed they believe that God the Father is an exalted man!
4) Just as they believe that the early church became apostate, they also believe the Bible as we have it is not inerrant or always truthful and trustworthy, even on major issues like Christology, and therefore needs to be supplemented (and corrected) by subsequent prophetic revelation in documents like the Book of Mormon, or even The Pearl of Great Price.
5) in terms of soteriology, Mormons deny the sufficiency of Christ’s death for salvation. They suggest, as the linked article says, that each of us must do all we can and then trust in the mercy of God. In other words, the de facto position is that Mormonism is to a significant degree a works religion even when it comes to salvation.
6) The goal of Mormon soteriology is that we all become as ‘gods’ become both immortal and divine, blurring the creator/creature distinction which was already badly blurred by a theology that suggested that God is actually a sort of uber-human being, with less flaws. One rather familiar teaching is ‘as God was, so we are. As God is, so we shall be’.
I bring this issue up now, because of the general ignorance of the American public about whether or not Mormons are actually Christians or not. If they really embrace the official positions of their religious group, they are not Christians, though they often present themselves as such, for example, calling their meeting places churches sometimes (but notice— no crosses to be found on top, or worn either)."
1) Mormons are not polytheists. There is only one God. Yes we believe that God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are separate beings, but only God is the one God. We also believe that God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are One, not in being, but in purpose.
2) Joseph Smith in his early life was unsure of which church was true. There are several different Christian denominations and he didn't know which to believe. He followed the teachings of the Bible in James 1:5 and he asked of God. God, who promised to always answer prayers, and his Son came to him and commanded him to reestablish the true church that fell into apostasy long, long ago.
3) In Genesis, it is said we are created in the image of our Heavenly Father. If we have bodies and we are created in His image, it only makes sense that He would have a body as well. He is a being of both body and spirit, and divine being.
4) When all the Christian churches were forming such as the Lutherans, Presbyterians, Methodists, Mennonites, etc., the Bible was translated into many different languages. It isn't unheard of for writings to change a little after being translated, i.e. lost in translation. Out of all the different versions of the Bible, it isn't inconceivable to believe that one of them contains a few mistakes. And if you read the Book of Mormon, you will find that no part of the Gospel is changed or missing. The Book of Mormon is simply a retelling of the Gospel from a different group of people. The Gospel is the same and is even further explained.
5) There are countless scriptures in the Bible and the Book of Mormon that cover this issue. Faith vs. works vs. grace? Which one is the saving one? The answer is all three. Faith without works is dead and works without faith are pointless. Christ taught that you must have faith and you must do all you can do because of that faith. After all of that, His grace saves us all because none of us are perfect. There is no need to dispute the faith vs. works issue. Faith and works are synergists.
6) This teaching may seem strange but it is true. Jesus Christ was just a man, same as all of us. But through God, he has become a divine and perfect being, just like our Heavenly Father. If we follow in Christ's footsteps and believe in his Gospel to the fullest and use his saving Atonement, we can achieve salvation, eternal life, and, like Jesus, divinity and perfection.
As far as I'm concerned, the word Christian means 'one who believes in Christ, his Gospel, and his Atonement'. That would make Mormons Christians. I know that it bugs people that we consider ourselves Christians but we know who we are and what we believe. I am a Christian whether you think I am or not and so is every other person that has Christ in their lives.
I hope that the above post will help clear up some confusion and misunderstanding about the Mormon Church. If there are any other questions I would be happy to answer them.
Please don't double post ~Max
Cicero
March 25th, 2013, 03:35 PM
"1) Mormons are polytheists, not monotheists. That is, they believe that the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are three separate beings, thus denying the essential monotheistic statements of both the OT and NT that God is One.
2) Mormons, thus, not surprisingly, deny the doctrine of the Trinity, calling it an amalgam of Greek ideas with Biblical ideas. Their basic view is that the original doctrine of God and of the ‘priesthood’ and key ideas about sacrifice, and leadership of the NT era were lost, as the church became entirely apostate and needed to be renewed, and that the NT church was not renewed until Joseph Smith came along in the 19th century (who btw, had an interest in Methodism whilst he was in Palmyra N.Y. and apparently took part in some of the revivals in the ‘Burnt Over District’ there in the first part of the 19th century). Mormons see the ecumenical councils which produced the Nicean creed or the Apostle’s Creed or the Chalcedonian creed as in essence contradictory to what Scripture teaches.
3) Mormons believe that even God the Father has, and apparently, needs a body, denying that God in the divine nature is spirit. Indeed they believe that God the Father is an exalted man!
4) Just as they believe that the early church became apostate, they also believe the Bible as we have it is not inerrant or always truthful and trustworthy, even on major issues like Christology, and therefore needs to be supplemented (and corrected) by subsequent prophetic revelation in documents like the Book of Mormon, or even The Pearl of Great Price.
5) in terms of soteriology, Mormons deny the sufficiency of Christ’s death for salvation. They suggest, as the linked article says, that each of us must do all we can and then trust in the mercy of God. In other words, the de facto position is that Mormonism is to a significant degree a works religion even when it comes to salvation.
6) The goal of Mormon soteriology is that we all become as ‘gods’ become both immortal and divine, blurring the creator/creature distinction which was already badly blurred by a theology that suggested that God is actually a sort of uber-human being, with less flaws. One rather familiar teaching is ‘as God was, so we are. As God is, so we shall be’.
I bring this issue up now, because of the general ignorance of the American public about whether or not Mormons are actually Christians or not. If they really embrace the official positions of their religious group, they are not Christians, though they often present themselves as such, for example, calling their meeting places churches sometimes (but notice— no crosses to be found on top, or worn either)."
1) Mormons are not polytheists. There is only one God. Yes we believe that God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are separate beings, but only God is the one God. We also believe that God, Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost are One, not in being, but in purpose.
2) Joseph Smith in his early life was unsure of which church was true. There are several different Christian denominations and he didn't know which to believe. He followed the teachings of the Bible in James 1:5 and he asked of God. God, who promised to always answer prayers, and his Son came to him and commanded him to reestablish the true church that fell into apostasy long, long ago.
3) In Genesis, it is said we are created in the image of our Heavenly Father. If we have bodies and we are created in His image, it only makes sense that He would have a body as well. He is a being of both body and spirit, and divine being.
4) When all the Christian churches were forming such as the Lutherans, Presbyterians, Methodists, Mennonites, etc., the Bible was translated into many different languages. It isn't unheard of for writings to change a little after being translated, i.e. lost in translation. Out of all the different versions of the Bible, it isn't inconceivable to believe that one of them contains a few mistakes. And if you read the Book of Mormon, you will find that no part of the Gospel is changed or missing. The Book of Mormon is simply a retelling of the Gospel from a different group of people. The Gospel is the same and is even further explained.
5) There are countless scriptures in the Bible and the Book of Mormon that cover this issue. Faith vs. works vs. grace? Which one is the saving one? The answer is all three. Faith without works is dead and works without faith are pointless. Christ taught that you must have faith and you must do all you can do because of that faith. After all of that, His grace saves us all because none of us are perfect. There is no need to dispute the faith vs. works issue. Faith and works are synergists.
6) This teaching may seem strange but it is true. Jesus Christ was just a man, same as all of us. But through God, he has become a divine and perfect being, just like our Heavenly Father. If we follow in Christ's footsteps and believe in his Gospel to the fullest and use his saving Atonement, we can achieve salvation, eternal life, and, like Jesus, divinity and perfection.
As far as I'm concerned, the word Christian means 'one who believes in Christ, his Gospel, and his Atonement'. That would make Mormons Christians. I know that it bugs people that we consider ourselves Christians but we know who we are and what we believe. I am a Christian whether you think I am or not and so is every other person that has Christ in their lives.
I hope that the above post will help clear up some confusion and misunderstanding about the Mormon Church. If there are any other questions I would be happy to answer them.
Satan believes in Christ, so he must be a Christian
I can bring up more sources that disprove Mormonism being Christian. The only Christian faith to ever believe that Mormonism is Christian is Mormonism itself, sounds kinda weird. How I see it, it's like saying "I make $200,000 a year" yet your boss saying "No, you make $20,000 a year".
SaxyHaloBeast
March 26th, 2013, 10:54 AM
But if you really are making $200,000 then obviously your boss doesn't know what he's talking about. You act like being a Christian is some exclusive club when how many denominations are there exactly? Satan doesn't believe in Christ. Satan knows Christ. You also missed the part where I said that Christians believe in His Gospel to the fullest and believe in His Atonement, neither of which Satan believes in.
I'm a Christian and I'm a Mormon. Might seem blasphemous to you but I know what I believe and I know who I am. If Mormons are the only faith to believe that Mormons are Christians well that means that Mormons are the only ones that are right.
Cicero
March 26th, 2013, 04:06 PM
But if you really are making $200,000 then obviously your boss doesn't know what he's talking about. You act like being a Christian is some exclusive club when how many denominations are there exactly? Satan doesn't believe in Christ. Satan knows Christ. You also missed the part where I said that Christians believe in His Gospel to the fullest and believe in His Atonement, neither of which Satan believes in.
I'm a Christian and I'm a Mormon. Might seem blasphemous to you but I know what I believe and I know who I am. If Mormons are the only faith to believe that Mormons are Christians well that means that Mormons are the only ones that are right.
Mormonism is one of the most youngest religions. They're teachings are so extremely opposite of Christianity that they cannot even be considered a denomination. So ok, consider yourself a Christian. But it doesn't mean that Mormons are Christians.
I'm not gonna continue argueing with you because you will always think that Mormons are Christian. I'll just leave this excellent source for you to read.
Are Mormons Christians? That is a very important question. If the Mormons are Christians, then we should view the Mormons as brothers and sisters in the Lord. However, if in fact the Mormon Church is not a Christian church then we should, in the name of Jesus Christ, pray for them to be set free from the darkness of being separated from the true God and eternal life. And witness to them, for they are lost without the real Jesus Christ. But, are the Mormons Christians?
Many people have asked that question. Of course, the Mormons will boldly confess to be Christian. They will point to all the "good works" that the LDS Church does, and all in the name of Jesus Christ. Not to mention the "feed the hunger" programs that the LDS Church is involved in. Hence, it is fair to say that over all the Mormon Church possesses all the appearance of a bona-fide Christian church.
So, let us deal with the recurrently asked question: are Mormons Christian? Well, the answer will depend on how one defines the term "Christian." If being "Christian" is only defined by Christian language: "One God," "Jesus is Lord," "Trinity," "Saved by grace," etc., then, the Mormons are definitely Christians, for they certainly integrate these terms in to their vocabulary and communicate them in their church services.
If in fact Christian language is the ultimate standard in which to decide what is and what is not Christian, then, Jehovah's Witnesses, Christian Science, Oneness groups, Unitarians, Unity School of Christianity, The Way International, The International Church of Christ, Christadelphians are all Christian!
However, it is the biblical definition that decides what is Christian. So, how does Scripture define what a Christian is?
"Then they that gladly received his word were baptized: and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls. And they [Christians] continued steadfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship, and in breaking of bread, and in prayer" (Acts 2:41, 42; emphasis added).
Hence the biblical definition of a "Christian" is: the one following the doctrines or teachings of the apostles (Ibid.). The Apostle Paul was very concerned about false teachings that did not square with the teachings of the apostles:
"He must hold firmly to the trustworthy message as it has been taught, so that he can refute1 those who oppose it. . . . You must teach what is in accord with sound doctrine" (Tit. 1:9; 2:1; emphasis added).
Do Mormons teach doctrines that are "opposed" to God's Word? The answer is, unequivocally, yes. Mormons reject the teachings of the apostles as well as the prophets of the Old Testament. The Lord God was concern that mere men may know, believe, and understand that God is one (e.g., Isa. 43:10; 44:6, 8). Ontological monotheism (i.e., One God by nature) is the fundamental difference that disallows Mormons from a true relationship with God, and hence, true salvation. I cannot emphasize enough: The Mormons are lost, perishing with Bibles in their hands. That is why Christians must reach out to the Mormons. If we love them, we will tell them.
So, let us recall some main points of LDS theology, which are antithetical to the "apostles teachings," that is, biblical theology:
LDS Teachings of God the Father
God the Father (and Jesus) was once a mere man that lived on an earth similar to this one. As a man, He had to go through the same ordeals and experiences that men go through on earth. Mormons tell us that God had to earn his salvation by obedience to law and thus becoming the God of this world. In LDS theology then: God has not always existed as God.
This point cannot be dismissed as a minor difference. That God had to become God cuts through the heart of biblical theology. The God of biblical revelation has eternally been God. He did not have to become God at some point in time. The LDS god is not the God of the Bible. There is a fundamental different. Christians and Mormons do not worship the same God.
Joseph Smith declared:
For I am going to tell you how God came to be God. We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity. I will refute that idea and take away the veil, so that you may see (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, 345; emphasis added).
Biblical Response:
1) Psalm 90:2: "From everlasting to everlasting, thou art God."
2) Hast thou not known? Hast thou not heard, that the everlasting God, the LORD, the creator of the ends of the earth, fainteth not, neither is weary? There is no searching of his understanding" (Is. 40:28)
3) Malachi 3:6: "For I am the LORD, I change not. . . . "
LDS Teaching that God the Father is an exalted man with Body Parts
Mormons assert that God the Father is not spirit. "God the Father has a body of flesh and bones as tangible as mans" (Doctrine of Covenants, 130:22; emphasis added). God the Father had/has sexual relations with His wife (or wives) in Heaven to produce spirit babies in order to populate the earth.2
Biblical Response:
1) John 4:24: God is Spirit. In Luke 24:39, Jesus defines a spirit: "For a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have" (emphasis added)
2) Jeremiah 23:24: God is omnipresent (exists everywhere): "Can any hide himself in secret places that I shall not see him? Saith the Lord. Do I not fill heaven and earth?" (emphasis added; cf. 2 Ch. 6;18).
3) 1 Timothy 1:17: God is an invisible spirit: "Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be the honor and glory for ever and ever." Colossians 1:15: "Who [Jesus] is the image of the invisible [Gk. aoratou] God. . . . " (emphasis added; cf. John 1:18).
4) 1 Timothy 6:16: No one has ever or can see God the Father: "Who only hath immortality dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can [dunatai] see. . . . "
5) The LORD God refutes this LDS false teaching: "for I am God, and not man. . . . " (Hos. 11:9; emphasis added)
LDS Teaching of Many Gods (i.e., polytheism)
The Mormons teach that all Mormon males (potentially) can become Gods just as all the Gods have done before them. Founder Joseph Smith declares to his followers:
I will preach on the plurality of Gods . . . I have always and in all congregations when I preached on the subject of Deity, it has been the plurality of Gods. . . . Jesus Christ a separate and distinct personage from God the Father, and that the Holy Ghost was a distinct personage and a Spirit: and these three constitute three distinct personages and three Gods (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 370).
Brigham Young also confirmed:
there was never a time when there were not Gods and worlds, and men were not passing through the same ordeals that we are now passing through (Discourses of Brigham Young, pp. 22, 23).
Biblical Response:
1) Isaiah 43:10: "before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me."
Isaiah 44:6: "Thus saith the LORD the King of Israel . . . I am the first, and I am the last, and beside me there is no God."
Isaiah 44:8: "Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God ; I know of not one."
Isaiah 45:5: "I am the LORD, and there is none else, there is no God beside me. . . . " (cf. Deut. 4:35; Jer. 10:10; esp. Mark 12:29).
2) The fundamental difference that excludes Mormonism from Christianity is ontological monotheism: there exists one God by nature (Gal. 4:8) hence all other things called God are false gods or idols. False gods do not exist, only the true God does exist, in whom salvation is given.
LDS Teaching of Jesus Christ
Mormons teach that Jesus was Lucifer's spirit brother. Jesus' body was procreated by sexual relations between God the Father and the Virgin Mary (His own daughter; see my article: The Paternity of Jesus Christ). And, Jesus was not the eternal God but merely one God of a pantheon of Gods. Jesus also had to earn His own salvation and become a God.
Biblical Response:
1) Colossians 1:16ff, Jesus is Creator of all things including angels (which Lucifer is; cf. John 1:3; 1 Cor. 8:6; Heb. 1:10)
2) That God the Father had sexual relations with His own daughter is a teaching that is utterly pagan!
3) Jesus is eternal, John 1:1: "In the beginning was3 the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
Joseph Smith was some random, chaotic guy who thought he had special powers. He was just some guy who made up some random religion that has no basis in history, Joseph Smith talks about these great battles in his book, yet there is not a shred of evidence to support it. Whereas Christianity has tons of evidence, such as the ark, Israel itself, the Jordan river, etc.
Mormonism mocks Christianity more than anything.
Hunter_Steel
March 26th, 2013, 05:50 PM
Dutch Reformed Christian.
I was raised a Dutch Reformed Christian, and will forever be a Dutch Reformed Christian. But strangely enough, I fell in love with a girl who is atheist. She doesn't mind, as long as I don't try to convert her, and I am cool with that.
But like all reformist christians, we believe that the Roman Catholic Church is not part of Christianity, as Christians pray to God first, hold Jesus as our one and only savior and through him we can get to heaven.
The Roman Catholics Pray to Marry first as if she was holy, she was only a mortal, a normal human, no special powers or anything. The fact that she conceived Jesus is not enough to direct prayer to her aswell. Also, the Catholics, I am not sure about this, don't believe in the Holy Trinity. And over the past hundreds of years, the Catholic church has ruined the image of Christianity since the time of Jesus. While yes, Christians are also not innocent from this. But there's a great deal difference between the two religions. So I can't see how they became part of Christianity.
But, I don't hate Catholics. I went to a Catholic Church once in Ireland, but I was baptized a Reformed Christian. And I have some Catholic Friends. But we hold very different beliefs in our faiths.
But back to topic, I am Reformed. Didn't see that option in the poll, so I posted it.
~Hunter
Celtic.
March 26th, 2013, 05:53 PM
my mom and grandma are studying to be Jehovah's Witnesses......i dont know what the hell i am
Cicero
March 26th, 2013, 07:31 PM
Dutch Reformed Christian.
I was raised a Dutch Reformed Christian, and will forever be a Dutch Reformed Christian. But strangely enough, I fell in love with a girl who is atheist. She doesn't mind, as long as I don't try to convert her, and I am cool with that.
But like all reformist christians, we believe that the Roman Catholic Church is not part of Christianity, as Christians pray to God first, hold Jesus as our one and only savior and through him we can get to heaven.
The Roman Catholics Pray to Marry first as if she was holy, she was only a mortal, a normal human, no special powers or anything. The fact that she conceived Jesus is not enough to direct prayer to her aswell. Also, the Catholics, I am not sure about this, don't believe in the Holy Trinity. And over the past hundreds of years, the Catholic church has ruined the image of Christianity since the time of Jesus. While yes, Christians are also not innocent from this. But there's a great deal difference between the two religions. So I can't see how they became part of Christianity.
But, I don't hate Catholics. I went to a Catholic Church once in Ireland, but I was baptized a Reformed Christian. And I have some Catholic Friends. But we hold very different beliefs in our faiths.
But back to topic, I am Reformed. Didn't see that option in the poll, so I posted it.
~Hunter
Actually, Catholics do believe in the holy trinity.
Harry Smith
March 26th, 2013, 07:52 PM
Didn't the Dutch Reform Church support apartheid?
Hunter_Steel
March 27th, 2013, 03:43 AM
I'm not sure, I never held much interest in church histories. But hey, never said my faith was innocent aswell. The Dutch Reformed Church did some things in the past that we are now trying to make up for.
~Hunter
TapDancer
March 27th, 2013, 05:27 AM
Known as the Church of England, but, if your not in England, the Anglican church. Its just what I have been raised as, but, at the present, I go to a Catholic school. Having said that, my mother is an Anglican Priest.
Hunter_Steel
March 27th, 2013, 05:53 AM
I think female priests are priestesses right?
SaxyHaloBeast
March 27th, 2013, 10:29 AM
Mormonism is one of the most youngest religions. They're teachings are so extremely opposite of Christianity that they cannot even be considered a denomination. So ok, consider yourself a Christian. But it doesn't mean that Mormons are Christians.
I'm not gonna continue argueing with you because you will always think that Mormons are Christian. I'll just leave this excellent source for you to read.
Joseph Smith was some random, chaotic guy who thought he had special powers. He was just some guy who made up some random religion that has no basis in history, Joseph Smith talks about these great battles in his book, yet there is not a shred of evidence to support it. Whereas Christianity has tons of evidence, such as the ark, Israel itself, the Jordan river, etc.
Mormonism mocks Christianity more than anything.
I love how you think you know the Mormon Church based off of one anti-Mormon Church article. You want to know the truth about the LDS Church? Go to LDS websites that have a plethora of articles and sources that will give you official church doctrine. Go to the missionaries. Watch General Conference next weekend. If these kind of articles are the only place you get your information from, then you have got the wrong idea about the LDS Church. I really do hope you take the time to do this. You have nothing to lose. And also, this article says it is a Christian's job to reach out to Mormons and help them. Instead of trying to discredit and belittle my church, be a Christ-like Christian like I'm sure your trying to be.
Taryn98
March 27th, 2013, 11:03 AM
Catholic
Cicero
March 27th, 2013, 02:56 PM
I love how you think you know the Mormon Church based off of one anti-Mormon Church article. You want to know the truth about the LDS Church? Go to LDS websites that have a plethora of articles and sources that will give you official church doctrine. Go to the missionaries. Watch General Conference next weekend. If these kind of articles are the only place you get your information from, then you have got the wrong idea about the LDS Church. I really do hope you take the time to do this. You have nothing to lose. And also, this article says it is a Christian's job to reach out to Mormons and help them. Instead of trying to discredit and belittle my church, be a Christ-like Christian like I'm sure your trying to be.
I'm just informing the misinformed. Christ also says to tell those the truth.
SaxyHaloBeast
March 28th, 2013, 01:21 PM
I'm just informing the misinformed. Christ also says to tell those the truth.
The misinformed have the right to the correct information. If they want the truth (which will set them free), they can go to the official sources of information such as the Bible, the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, the Pearl of Great Price, and various LDS websites. Anyone who wants to know about the LDS Church should use these resources to learn.
Danny_boi 16
March 29th, 2013, 06:58 PM
I am a Roman Catholic
havingfun
March 29th, 2013, 07:09 PM
My specific denomination isn't on there, but I have been a Christian for some time, and my life is so much more peaceful now than when I was an atheist
Neptune
March 30th, 2013, 06:46 PM
When I was younger, I attended a Pentecostal church but now days; I’m more in line with Anglican churches. I don’t attend them, though – I only watch online. Most of my local Anglican churches split with the main national Anglican church over social issues and some other issues. I don’t agree with local churches so I refuse to attend them.
DoodleSnap
March 30th, 2013, 08:27 PM
I feel that I have made my own little niche. I believe that god isn't a magical being, nor does he physically exist. I believe that he is a shared idea that in essence, is real through belief. I like to think that he is a friend, who I can always speak to, and never judges me, nor me him. We have a mutual respect for each other. That's my view.
WickedWeekend
March 31st, 2013, 07:44 AM
I'm just informing the misinformed. Christ also says to tell those the truth.
You're actually getting quite annoying. I guess I'm just jumping in here late, though. I thought you guys were having a little misunderstanding, but you, Cicero, went as far as to completely belittle this guy's religion because you think he got one thing wrong. If he thinks Mormons are Christians, great! you don't have to pull up your little compilation of "research" to prove him wrong. If you guys aren't going to change each others opinion and outlook on God, why debate in this manner anyway? It's pointless. Cicero, it is people like you that just make me ashamed of us so called "Christians." Cicero, have you ever heard of this thing a great dude named Jesus said? He said, "Love thy neighbor as thyself." great Christian you are.
Damn, instead of ranting I raged. So as not to avoid the original set topic, I'm a Baptist and always have been. Still on my walk with God and loving it.
Bi-winning.
sparkles
March 31st, 2013, 02:45 PM
The misinformed have the right to the correct information. If they want the truth (which will set them free), they can go to the official sources of information such as the Bible, the Book of Mormon, Doctrine and Covenants, the Pearl of Great Price, and various LDS websites. Anyone who wants to know about the LDS Church should use these resources to learn.
LDS is technically a protestant faith, same as presbyterianism, lutheranism, methodism (sp?) etc.
NTTHRASH
March 31st, 2013, 09:55 PM
I'm scientific Christianity. I can't mark one, but I love my status.
roadwarrior
April 3rd, 2013, 04:53 AM
I am a Roman Catholic ...
randomnessqueen
April 3rd, 2013, 01:01 PM
im not dogmatically christian
im more spiritual, but in that i consider myself a part of many religions
though i steer away from protestant christianity,
i really relate with orthodoxy
Daracon
April 3rd, 2013, 08:30 PM
Well, I was baptized Catholic so I guess I am technically Catholic, but currently I am an Agnostic looking into Hinduism (crazy right?).
NTTHRASH
April 3rd, 2013, 10:15 PM
Well, I was baptized Catholic so I guess I am technically Catholic, but currently I am an Agnostic looking into Hinduism (crazy right?).
Not crazy, you are just finding your way through life along with the rest of us. ;)
SaxyHaloBeast
April 9th, 2013, 05:40 PM
You're actually getting quite annoying. I guess I'm just jumping in here late, though. I thought you guys were having a little misunderstanding, but you, Cicero, went as far as to completely belittle this guy's religion because you think he got one thing wrong. If he thinks Mormons are Christians, great! you don't have to pull up your little compilation of "research" to prove him wrong. If you guys aren't going to change each others opinion and outlook on God, why debate in this manner anyway? It's pointless. Cicero, it is people like you that just make me ashamed of us so called "Christians." Cicero, have you ever heard of this thing a great dude named Jesus said? He said, "Love thy neighbor as thyself." great Christian you are.
Damn, instead of ranting I raged. So as not to avoid the original set topic, I'm a Baptist and always have been. Still on my walk with God and loving it.
Bi-winning.
Thanks. What bothers me is that there are so many denominations of the Christian faith and it's okay for all of them to have differences but then the LDS Church is different and it isn't regarded as Christian. Seems like we are making Christianity into some kind of 'in-circle' or exclusive club when it is really supposed to be open to everyone.
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