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Sir Suomi
March 14th, 2013, 06:42 PM
Is their such a thing as "right" or "wrong"? I believe not. Here's an example:
There are 3 people sitting at a table discussing the subject of homosexuality(Please, don't be offended, this was the only thing I can think of)
Person A is Anti-Gay Rights, Person B is neutral, and Person C is Pro-Gay Rights.
Person A tells Person B, "Homosexuality is wrong, so homosexuals should not have the same rights as a heterosexual person." But then Person C says, "No, homosexuality is right. Homosexuals should have the same rights as heterosexuals." Neither provides any evidence to back up his/her claim. How is Person B supposed to know who is "right" and who is "wrong"? He/She won't be able to, because both Person A and C, in their own minds, are "right". So basically, their is no such thing as "right" or "wrong". It all is down to an individuals morals.

Any thoughts on this?

Apollo.
March 14th, 2013, 07:35 PM
That is why debating was created, backing up claims with evidence and having strong stand points are the main point of a debate and those are the things that let the neutral party in your example person B decide for themselves.

CastigateMe
March 14th, 2013, 07:48 PM
I believe there are such things as right and wrong, but they exist as opinions and opinions only, and therefore cannot be taken to heart or for fact.

Jaller
March 14th, 2013, 08:50 PM
No my sense of right and wrong is probably 100% different from everyone else's

Aajj333
March 14th, 2013, 10:24 PM
In that sense yes but it's is right to help an elderly person cross the street but it is wrong to rape someone

Cygnus
March 14th, 2013, 10:49 PM
Right and wrong are just a concept, same with good and evil. They do not actually exist since what is right for one person can be completely wrong for another, and since nothing is accepted or denied universally by 100% of the world's population there is no such thing.

workingatperfect
March 14th, 2013, 11:04 PM
In that sense yes but it's is right to help an elderly person cross the street but it is wrong to rape someone

But even these aren't solid right or wrong things. Morals are entirely subjective. Yes, they can be enforced, giving us a more stable idea of if it's right or wrong, and those are more widely accepted examples, but it's still subjective. There may be some cultures that find it wrong to help an old lady without her asking because it could possibly be demeaning. There are also cultures who think it's right for a man to have any girl he wants.

So to answer the OP, my thoughts are, "right" and "wrong" from a moral standpoint, can't be defined. There's no "this IS wrong, end of story," but just "To me... this is wrong."

randomnessqueen
March 15th, 2013, 05:25 PM
being right in ones mind just means they think theyre right. but that can be with or without a lot of different knowledge or experience.
i think if both people were willing to be reasonable and were properly informed that they would undoubtedly come to the same conclusion.
there is an objective right and wrong.

Human
March 15th, 2013, 05:41 PM
I believe there are such things as right and wrong, but they exist as opinions and opinions only, and therefore cannot be taken to heart or for fact.

I agree with this, in reality we can't say something is right or wrong, but the majority of the population would agree that killing children is wrong and that giving money to charity is good etc.

Ryhanna
March 15th, 2013, 05:42 PM
Yep. Although the moral code is subjective, so what's viewed as right and wrong aren't the same for everyone. Using your example of gay rights, person A is pro-gay rights as he believes that it is right to treat all people as equals. Person B is anti-gay rights, as she beliefs it is wrong to allow homosexual couples to marry because it defies the rules of marriage.

There are things that we are taught are wrong - such as killing people. This has been drilled into our minds since the day we are born. 'Killing is wrong.' But is it wrong to the kids who have grown up in war-torn countries and witnessed killing every day of their lives, perhaps even taken a few lives themselves to stay alive? Of course, growing up in a safe country and a country at war are completely different scenarios, but it further proves that the moral code is never strictly the same to everyone.

MrMundane
March 15th, 2013, 11:09 PM
Nope, they don't exist.

baseballfan
March 16th, 2013, 09:27 AM
Depends on your views

Or who you talk/listen to.

Personally yes I believe there is right and wrong


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Twilly F. Sniper
March 16th, 2013, 12:18 PM
I believe that there is a right and wrong, but it depends on moral standard.
Someone like me:
Views that its right to get a gun for protection
Views gay marriage isnt wrong

Someone else may:
View all of the above things as wrong

Its just morals.

dontfiguremeout
March 16th, 2013, 11:28 PM
That's why I think it's all based on each persons opinions. We aren't suppose to agree on everything. I probably disagree on things a lot of people would agree on. That's just what makes people. I think our world would be extremely boring if we agreed on the same thing. I think for us not to agree on the same things adds excitement to this world! It makes us dig deep and fight for what we believe in. In the end, I don't think there is a right or wrong answer, I believe it's all opinion based and how you want to believe it.

xmojox
March 17th, 2013, 02:13 AM
In that sense yes but it's is right to help an elderly person cross the street but it is wrong to rape someone

If you help an elderly person across the street and then rape them does it even out? :P

Seriously, though, there are different types of right and wrong. In the original example, right or wrong would depend entirely upon who person B found to be the more compelling debater.

Right and wrong can also refer to moral issues, and morals are very subjective, with a few exceptions. For instance, I doubt that many sane people would argue that it isn't wrong to commit murder.

Things can also be ethically right or wrong, ethics being more universal than morals.

So, yeah, right and wrong do exist, but don't always mean the same thing to all people.

SaxyHaloBeast
March 26th, 2013, 01:20 PM
I believe there is a universal law of what is right and what is wrong. None of us may know for sure which is which, but it is our job to decide for ourselves what we think is right and what is wrong.