North Korea

[Korashk]

Why is it that whenever North Korea does or says something threatening people immediately start talking about possible plans to ward off North Korea?

Do you not realize that as a country North Korea is a giant oppressive joke? their missiles fall over when they launch them for Christ's sake. Every single piece of technology they develop to overthrow their enemies fails in a way that is hilariously spectacular. North Korea is about as threatening as an evil organization from an 80s action cartoon.

The bottom line is that people need to stop freaking out whenever North Korea does stuff. They are not a threat to anyone.

[TheBigUnit]

They really aren't, but people love to speculate especially about a very recluse country like NK

[ImCoolBeans]

People freak out over them because they feel threatened by NK's hallow nuclear threats. In reality if NK were to begin to pose a serious threat they would be squashed before it came to fruition. One of their strong allies, being China, doesn't even support them due to their wild, erratic plans and threats. They claim to have the technology for a "super EMP nuclear device" but can't successfully make test launches... convincing.

They really aren't, but people love to speculate especially about a very recluse country like NK

Coming from the starter of a big North Korea thread... :P

[Atonement]

In my opinion, North Korea is a failed state. They can't support their own infrastructure, population, or economy. For this reason, their apparent tactics are to develop the technology (cheaper than feeding their people) in order to threaten the world. When they threaten the world, they have a playing chip that when they back down, the world will exchange them for aid. For example, they shoot a missile. They say they have nukes. Therefore, people get pissed. When North Korea bargains, they say they'll relinquish technology, move troops, or whatever in order to gain food aid to support their population.

Now, this is only one part of the very large puzzle of brainwashing, madness, history, and geopolitics, but that's the main reason these things seem to happy in a pattern.

[irishguy123]

the country is very corrupt anyway. i am convinced that Kim must only spend money on the army and that is it! i read recently online that because people are starving there, there are now a growing group of cannibals in North Korea

[TheBigUnit]

People freak out over them because they feel threatened by NK's hallow nuclear threats. In reality if NK were to begin to pose a serious threat they would be squashed before it came to fruition. One of their strong allies, being China, doesn't even support them due to their wild, erratic plans and threats. They claim to have the technology for a "super EMP nuclear device" but can't successfully make test launches... convincing.



Coming from the starter of a big North Korea thread... :P

speculation :)

[Nellerin]

The bottom line is that people need to stop freaking out whenever North Korea does stuff. They are not a threat to anyone.


Correction to that part of what you said (although I agree with everything else.)

NK is a threat to someone... South Korea. Since they were able to take part in a war with them decades ago, NK is more advanced than it was then and have continued to make small attacks against South Korea.

So yes the United States is "safe" but some people are not completely safe, and NK can be a threat to some people, particularly South Korea's people.

[sparkles]

They are not a major threat at the moment but the have the potential to be. First they need to figure out how to get their rockets to not fail.

[Taryn98]

You should read a book on the Korean War and realize that North Korea is not a joke at all.

[Sir Suomi]

You should read a book on the Korean War and realize that North Korea is not a joke at all.

In all reality if we did go to war against NK, it would be a turkey shoot. Almost all of their military equipment dates back to the Cold War. As Korashka said, their missiles wouldn't get off the launch pad. Even if they got into the sky, we'd have THAAD's and PATRIOTS knocking them out of the sky before they got across the Pacific. NK is just like a mosquito buzzing around your head. You keep an eye on it, and if it decides to try and bite at you, you eliminate it.

[Taryn98]

In all reality if we did go to war against NK, it would be a turkey shoot. Almost all of their military equipment dates back to the Cold War. As Korashka said, their missiles wouldn't get off the launch pad. Even if they got into the sky, we'd have THAAD's and PATRIOTS knocking them out of the sky before they got across the Pacific. NK is just like a mosquito buzzing around your head. You keep an eye on it, and if it decides to try and bite at you, you eliminate it.

I don't disagree that we would beat them. But in the process tens of thousands of people would die. If they launched a single nuclear bomb on S Korea there could be a million people affected even if it's just from radiation poisoning. On top of that, China supplies them with food, fuel, money, and capabilities, so it wouldn't be as simple as the US vs North Korea. I'm not saying we would go to war directly with China, but the situation wouldn't be as simple or straight forward as Iraq or Afghanistan was.

[Sir Suomi]

I don't disagree that we would beat them. But in the process tens of thousands of people would die. If they launched a single nuclear bomb on S Korea there could be a million people affected even if it's just from radiation poisoning. On top of that, China supplies them with food, fuel, money, and capabilities, so it wouldn't be as simple as the US vs North Korea. I'm not saying we would go to war directly with China, but the situation wouldn't be as simple or straight forward as Iraq or Afghanistan was.

China has openly said that they've withdrawn from NK. In all reality, NK is all by itself now. Now, yes, I'm not saying there would be limited bloodshed. I'm just stating that it would more than likely be a very swift war. Similar to the Iraq invasion, yet hopefully we wouldn't stay in NK nearly as long.

[Human]

I don't know. Their threats are hollow but they are definitely not to be underestimated. They could do a lot of damage, especially to good old SK.

[Gigablue]

North Korea isn't that big a threat. Their missiles are quite pathetic, usually falling apart before they get near to anything important. They might be dangerous to South Korea, but not to anyone else.

Either way, I don't think they would start a war. They have no allies other than china, and even china is starting to distance themselves from North Korea. They would have absolutely no chance of winning.

[Korashk]

Correction to that part of what you said (although I agree with everything else.)

NK is a threat to someone... South Korea. Since they were able to take part in a war with them decades ago, NK is more advanced than it was then and have continued to make small attacks against South Korea.

So yes the United States is "safe" but some people are not completely safe, and NK can be a threat to some people, particularly South Korea's people.
You should read a book on the Korean War and realize that North Korea is not a joke at all.
Firstly, the Korean war was not North Korea vs South Korea. It was Northern Korea vs Southern Korea because at the time Korea was one country with one predominant culture and fairly uniform development. The war only actually happened the way it did because of proxying by the US, Russia, and China. Peace was eventually brokered and the country was split into the communist north and the democratic south.

Since that time North Korea has almost literally not developed at all as a country and has arguably regressed (there is a fairly large cannibal population in North Korea because of food shortages) whereas South Korea is on the forefront of the first world because of their advances in technology and other things.

Secondly, South Korea is completely safe from a full scale attack by North Korea simply because behind all the crazyness that is portrayed by their government, they aren't actually crazy people.

Any retard realizes that attacking a country with strong ties to the United States is literally suicide for their country.

[TheBassoonist]

My international history professor says, and I have to agree with him on this, that nuclear weapons aren't weapons you use in a war. They're used as a deterrent so other countries won't want to mess with you. He argues that North Korea won't follow up with their threats to launch missiles at the United States because that's not a rational decision. Ideally, all countries act rationally, but we don't live in an ideal world. I'd like to think that Kim Jong-Un won't launch anything aimed at any country, but that would rely on him being a rational actor, which remains to be seen. What is clear is that the retaliation would most likely be swift and absolute. It isn't in either China's or Russia's best interests to back the North Koreans against the US, so they'll most likely stay neutral in any confrontation. They could also side against the North Koreans, but that's not likely either.

Most likely, the North Korean government is just trying to show off to get attention on the world stage, but they just don't have the power to back up their threats. Do they have nukes? Yes. But hardly any. It doesn't make sense to attack the country with the most powerful military in the entire world unless you have a comparable military, which North Korea does not have.

[TheMatrix]

North Korea, it seems, is primarily trying to get the world powers tangled up with each other. It's East vs West all over again.
Missles are easier to fire when they need only go a few hundred kilometres. Should the United States remove their military support for South Korea, the North Koreans will waste no time in doing what they're trying to hint at -- taking control of South Korea quickly.
However, should China remove their support for North Korea, I'm pretty sure the missles will fire in the United States faster than you can say "shrapnel".

[TheBigUnit]

China has openly said that they've withdrawn from NK. In all reality, NK is all by itself now. Now, yes, I'm not saying there would be limited bloodshed. I'm just stating that it would more than likely be a very swift war. Similar to the Iraq invasion, yet hopefully we wouldn't stay in NK nearly as long.

China is still backing nk but they don't supports nk's decisions

I don't disagree that we would beat them. But in the process tens of thousands of people would die. If they launched a single nuclear bomb on S Korea there could be a million people affected even if it's just from radiation poisoning. On top of that, China supplies them with food, fuel, money, and capabilities, so it wouldn't be as simple as the US vs North Korea. I'm not saying we would go to war directly with China, but the situation wouldn't be as simple or straight forward as Iraq or Afghanistan was.

Very true, china is a major deterant

Firstly, the Korean war was not North Korea vs South Korea. It was Northern Korea vs Southern Korea because at the time Korea was one country with one predominant culture and fairly uniform development. The war only actually happened the way it did because of proxying by the US, Russia, and China. Peace was eventually brokered and the country was split into the communist north and the democratic south.

Since that time North Korea has almost literally not developed at all as a country and has arguably regressed (there is a fairly large cannibal population in North Korea because of food shortages) whereas South Korea is on the forefront of the first world because of their advances in technology and other things.

Secondly, South Korea is completely safe from a full scale attack by North Korea simply because behind all the crazyness that is portrayed by their government, they aren't actually crazy people.

Any retard realizes that attacking a country with strong ties to the United States is literally suicide for their country.

Firstly there was a north korea and south korea before the war, after japan lost usa and ussr agreed to split korea (like germany) spread their influence and leave, they did that and was about to go but SK leader started attacking the communist north supporters and NK declared war and so on,

sk is not safe from a nk invasion, have you not heard of the underground tunnels nk built that spans all over the border, sure the cia and sk closed many of them but they fear there are many more, also nk out numbers the sk army like 6:1 we've seen in other wars that sometimes quantity beats quality, like Ussr in wwii, vietnam in vietname war, usa in revolutionary war, china in korean war, its pretty mentally slow saying that sk is safe

[Harry Smith]

Firstly, the Korean war was not North Korea vs South Korea. It was Northern Korea vs Southern Korea because at the time Korea was one country with one predominant culture and fairly uniform development. The war only actually happened the way it did because of proxying by the US, Russia, and China. Peace was eventually brokered and the country was split into the communist north and the democratic south
Any retard realizes that attacking a country with strong ties to the United States is literally suicide for their country.

They said that about Iran, they said that Iran would never fall with such a powerful ally. I know thats different but I'm just saying that having US foreign Policy isn't all that great. They also said that South Vietnam would never fall with US Support. The last time the US army underestimated there enemy was back in the jungles of vietnam and we all know what happened there.

Also Korea was divided at the time of the war, North Korea crossed the 38th parallel and pushed SK back to the sea. It was only when the UN intervened that a counter offense was possible. The country was split in 1945 with the intention of unifying it after elections, however no elections where held

[ProudConservative]

NK is a poor state. The families are forced into poverty because of absolutely deplorable conditions. People are starving and stooping to cannobolism, Only the wealthy get "the treatment" of a king. They're a ticking time bomb, soon enough, they'll test that "super EMP atomic bomb" and blow their own country to smithereens. That's all they are, a ticking time bomb.