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Jaller
February 27th, 2013, 07:11 PM
Ok so i found a loophole in religion or at least Christianity

People who are really religioustell me I'm wrong for believing in E.T.s because "God" only made humans however God in himself is an E.T. because he is not of this world and angles are aswell so Christians are technically worshiping an ET . I am sorry if you do not agree but i needed to point this out

Cicero
February 27th, 2013, 08:17 PM
Ok so i found a loophole in religion or at least Christianity

People who are really religioustell me I'm wrong for believing in E.T.s because "God" only made humans however God in himself is an E.T. because he is not of this world and angles are aswell so Christians are technically worshiping an ET . I am sorry if you do not agree but i needed to point this out

Actually no, he's a spiritual being.

WalkingOnDisaster
February 27th, 2013, 08:18 PM
God exists in a spirit wrelm separate from the wrelm we live in. So no. That is not a loophole.

Twilly F. Sniper
February 27th, 2013, 09:00 PM
I'd love if this was actually a loophole. there are quite a few of them, which every atheist should've pretty much figured out.

CharlieFinley
February 28th, 2013, 11:48 AM
Ok so i found a loophole in religion or at least Christianity

People who are really religioustell me I'm wrong for believing in E.T.s because "God" only made humans however God in himself is an E.T. because he is not of this world and angles are aswell so Christians are technically worshiping an ET . I am sorry if you do not agree but i needed to point this out

Oh dear. Please excuse me while I go pray for the future of the human race.

Harry Smith
February 28th, 2013, 12:30 PM
I felt like rolling in the drumbeat thing, you know bad dum tshhh. There are many loopholes in religon, but do not feel pressured to follow the same branch of religion that they do, you can believe in both aliens and god. Believe what you want to

WalkingOnDisaster
February 28th, 2013, 12:49 PM
I felt like rolling in the drumbeat thing, you know bad dum tshhh. There are many loopholes in religon, but do not feel pressured to follow the same branch of religion that they do, you can believe in both aliens and god. Believe what you want to
That is true. I believe in God and in Aliens. I don't find too many loopholes in religion however. But I do find some, you're right.

Mirage
February 28th, 2013, 01:20 PM
Ok so i found a loophole in religion or at least Christianity

People who are really religioustell me I'm wrong for believing in E.T.s because "God" only made humans however God in himself is an E.T. because he is not of this world and angles are aswell so Christians are technically worshiping an ET . I am sorry if you do not agree but i needed to point this out

It's not like Christianity is a contract, it's not a 'loophole'; more so an observation...

Horizon
February 28th, 2013, 01:20 PM
No, the belief is that god resides in heaven, and heaven lies within a different realm. Not within this universe.

xmojox
February 28th, 2013, 04:39 PM
Even the Catholic Church accepts the possibility of aliens...just saying.

VladTheMir Gorgovich
February 28th, 2013, 04:59 PM
Ah, religion, that one concept that tears humans apart while encouraging them to unite.
Well i believe that when the time is right i will know the answer, of everything, i would love to chat with my king.

IAMWILL
March 1st, 2013, 12:03 AM
The Catholic Church only teaches on issues of faith and morals. They accept what science says on all other issues. If someone finds there are aliens, the Church won't deny it. For now, the Church is open to the possibility and has no stance on it. And God isn't a physical being. He isn't out there floating in space somewhere.

sammo
March 1st, 2013, 12:11 AM
I believe in ETs. I'm catholic, and I'm probably going to he'll for saying this, but the Catholic Church is fucking screwed up nowadays. I don't know what to believe. so I believe in what I want, and that's ETs

Even the Catholic Church accepts the possibility of aliens...just saying.

it believes we are unique and special and no one is like us. so yes, they say that there is such thing as "ETs", but they don't believe in intelligent life on other planets

but technically, all who say God lives in a separate realm is wrong. catholic teaching says the he is within all of us, and is apart of us, and dwells within our souls and within our world. so He is a earthly being

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PetrusRomanus
March 1st, 2013, 12:27 AM
The Triune God created all things visible and invisible, seen and unseen. If their is ETs whom I do believe exist but not yet discovered, GLORY TO GOD IN THE HIGHEST! HALLELUJAH!

xmojox
March 1st, 2013, 05:42 AM
it believes we are unique and special and no one is like us. so yes, they say that there is such thing as "ETs", but they don't believe in intelligent life on other planets

I beg to differ. Respectfully I submit to you the words of Father Gabriel Funes, Chief Astronomer of the Vatican, who said:

“Just like there is an abundance of creatures on earth, there could also be other beings, even intelligent ones, that were created by God. That doesn’t contradict our faith, because we cannot put boundaries to God’s creative freedom. As saint Francis would say, when we consider the earthly creatures to be our “brothers and sisters”, why couldn’t we also talk about a “extraterrestrial brother”? He would still be part of creation.”

He doesn't seem to preclude the possibility of intelligent extra-terrestrial life.

sammo
March 1st, 2013, 10:37 AM
I beg to differ. Respectfully I submit to you the words of Father Gabriel Funes, Chief Astronomer of the Vatican, who said:

“Just like there is an abundance of creatures on earth, there could also be other beings, even intelligent ones, that were created by God. That doesn’t contradict our faith, because we cannot put boundaries to God’s creative freedom. As saint Francis would say, when we consider the earthly creatures to be our “brothers and sisters”, why couldn’t we also talk about a “extraterrestrial brother”? He would still be part of creation.”

He doesn't seem to preclude the possibility of intelligent extra-terrestrial life.

But I'm not talking about what people believe now or say now, I'm talking about what dogma and doctrine say. I'm bringing up the technicalities of faith. And the issue hasn't been formally talked about or dogmatically adjusted for YEARS, so it the official faith teaching is "No intelligent beings" and again not to say that the beliefs held by a majority of the Church are different.

xmojox
March 1st, 2013, 11:12 AM
But I'm not talking about what people believe now or say now, I'm talking about what dogma and doctrine say. I'm bringing up the technicalities of faith. And the issue hasn't been formally talked about or dogmatically adjusted for YEARS, so it the official faith teaching is "No intelligent beings" and again not to say that the beliefs held by a majority of the Church are different.

I understand what you mean, now. Yeah, the Church is filled with archaic ideas. Although I was brought up Catholic, that's about as far as it ever went, and that's part of the reason. I suppose it could be argued that there is slow progress...look what they did to Galileo Galilei for daring to support Copernicanism. The Inquisition found him guilty of suspected heresy and he lived out his life under house arrest. So, arguably, there's progress.

Guillermo
March 2nd, 2013, 01:59 AM
Why are some of you only bringing up the Church? I mean yeah, that's great that Catholicism represents probably around or over 50% of Christianity, but you all seem to be forgetting Protestantism and all of its sects. And then of course there is Eastern Orthodoxy. What I'm trying to get at is Catholics are Christians but not all Christians are Catholics. There are other branches that represent Christianity... And generally those that don't accept science as well as the Catholic Church does.

CharlieFinley
March 2nd, 2013, 11:59 AM
lolwut? Read Rocks of Ages. It's written by an agnostic (Gould) and it correctly points out that there's no reason whatsoever that a religion with no conflict with science in its holy text (that's Christianity, for those of you keeping track at home) should have conflict with science at all. He calls this principle Non-Overlapping Magisteria.

It's really just US fundamentalists who have problems with science.

Sir Suomi
March 2nd, 2013, 11:29 PM
I'd compare God to Schrödinger's cat. He both exists, yet does not exist. Damn, don't you just love paradoxes :P

tundravortex
March 2nd, 2013, 11:32 PM
well for me....my people beleaved in many spirits like mother earth,father sun,brother moon,ect