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Professional Russian
February 26th, 2013, 10:11 AM
So I'm here in american government doing a project about students first amendment rights. Do you guys think students have first amendment rights?
Horizon
February 26th, 2013, 10:35 AM
I'd like to believe we do.
Regardless of age, we can still choose to be religious or not.
CharlieFinley
February 26th, 2013, 12:45 PM
Students absolutely have a First Amendment right; however, that right can be curtailed for the common good while students are at school. I am of the opinion that this right is curtailed too heavily, but some limitations are necessary.
Texas warrior
February 26th, 2013, 02:56 PM
We do not but we should. We have "God given rights that shall not be infringed" not "God given rights that shall not be infringed, once you turn 18". I hate how not being 18 I do not have full right granted to me.
Taryn98
February 26th, 2013, 03:11 PM
The Constitution doesn't say only some people or some of the time, so yes every American citizen has freedom of speech
xmojox
February 26th, 2013, 09:06 PM
In theory, we are citizens with all the rights guaranteed by the Constitution. In practice, though, not so much. In school, you do not have full rights, which to me seems so wrong. It also makes me glad I don't go to public school. We are the last repressed minority in the USA, and I don't see any sign of that changing.
Castle of Glass
February 26th, 2013, 10:13 PM
Theoretically they do, but in reality we don't like when post on places like Facebook(which are our private area) are brought to school complaints, we don't. technically schools invade our privacy. But we still do. the Supreme court has ruled it toward of students and IMO there should be a federal law that we do, unless it is a hate crime.
Jess
February 26th, 2013, 11:26 PM
Yep, but it's somewhat limited at school, like what students can put in newsletters or something.
TheBassoonist
February 27th, 2013, 12:22 AM
Students' first amendment rights are limited at schools, but for good reason. They're controlled to maintain order while on campus.
Sugaree
February 27th, 2013, 01:52 AM
In theory they do, but only while in school/on campus. Unfortunately that's how it works legally. Ethically is completely different territory.
Cicero
March 1st, 2013, 02:35 AM
Students do, but teachers don't. If you're apart of the public school system as a teacher, you cannot talk about your religion or have anything to do with it unless its apart of the normal course or a teacher is asked.
natedash1
March 3rd, 2013, 12:22 AM
If you're sentient, you should be free to express, provided you aren't one of those who abuse it.
CharlieHorse
March 3rd, 2013, 01:24 AM
depends on what country you live in...
China? no.
USA, i bet we do.
Guillermo
March 3rd, 2013, 02:15 AM
depends on what country you live in...
China? no.
USA, i bet we do.
First amendment rights only apply to U.S. citizens. Why exactly are you comparing the U.S. to China? Obviously they don't have the same rights as we do...
And by the way, sometimes first amendment rights can be limited or taken away due to the greater "good" for everyone else or if any rule/law is broken while expressing first amendment rights. In other words, if what you're trying to express isn't a disruption to everyone else, then you're first amendment rights are protected. A legitimate justification must be presented in order for your rights to be taken away.
Here (http://www.cas.okstate.edu/jb/faculty/senat/jb3163/studentpress.html) is a good link about court cases in public schools that deal with first amendment rights. This (http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/conlaw/studentspeech.htm) is another good one.
pollier92
March 3rd, 2013, 02:16 AM
simply yes
anyone50
March 3rd, 2013, 04:17 AM
I'm not 100 percent sure but I think unless your sppech is threatning in nature or liable its protected.I ran across this item last week on the subject it seems that after posting rude, unprofessional comments on Facebook about his teacher, a California high school student was suspended by his high school. So was his free speech rights violated? The ACLU had said the student's free speech rights were violated and the school broke federal and state laws. Turns out that it's already been declared that what you say on facebook is protected speech in another case that went before a federal court. So where do you draw the line concerening free speech. it appears that if your a student and a minor you may have the same rights as an adult when it comes to free speech but it comes with a high price to pay if your comments infringe on the rights of others or become liable in nature. Unfortantley schools have added and applied their own rules on this matter and while the case I mentioned above is protected speech It still got him suspended so i guess it boils down to are you willing to fight for your freedom of speech even if it causes you problems in the short term.
AbbaZabba
March 3rd, 2013, 03:07 PM
I'm a US citizen, so I'd like to think I am included. I don't see anything about age in it.
Korashk
March 4th, 2013, 07:42 AM
The answer is both yes and no. As a student/minor you do have first amendment rights in a broad and general sense. However, depending on where you are your first amendment rights can be temporarily suspended.
For instance, you absolutely do not have freedom of speech in public schools, but you would say on the Internet.
Twilly F. Sniper
March 4th, 2013, 07:53 AM
Yes, when there's little or no adult supervision
No, when there's a lot of it. Example: School, we don't have freedom of speech; there are many words in our vocabularies that get us on trouble.
Example: Internet, heck yeah we do :P unless you're on a place like club penguin and your like six no.
Example Home: Depends.
Usernamesarelame
March 4th, 2013, 05:56 PM
No. While I would love to think that by being under 18 allows us to have the "certain unalienable rights" that this country was founded upon, I personally believe that can and only ever will be wishful thinking. If you are reading this and thinking 'how do I protect myself?', the only thing that I can advise is to know your rights as citizens and be able to recite them to anyone illegally taking advantage of you.
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