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Harry Smith
February 23rd, 2013, 11:58 AM
Hello guys, just saw a very interesting article about how George Galloway, a british MP for the Respect Party and former Labour MP stormed out of a debate at oxford univeritsity because in his own words he dosen't debate with 'Israelis'. The fact that he is refusing to talk to someone based on there heritage concerns me espically because he is an MP.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/i-dont-debate-with-israelis-george-galloway-accused-of-racism-after-walking-out-of-middle-east-debate-at-oxford-8505232.html
And if you wondering he featured on Big Brother a couple of years ago
Would you say that this is racism?
Merged double post. -Gigablue
MisterChicken
February 23rd, 2013, 02:08 PM
No as 'Israelis' are terrorist and Zionist so no its not
Hello guys, just saw a very interesting article about how George Galloway, a british MP for the Respect Party and former Labour MP stormed out of a debate at oxford univeritsity because in his own words he dosen't debate with 'Israelis'. The fact that he is refusing to talk to someone based on there heritage concerns me espically because he is an MP.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/i-dont-debate-with-israelis-george-galloway-accused-of-racism-after-walking-out-of-middle-east-debate-at-oxford-8505232.html
And if you wondering he featured on Big Brother a couple of years ago
Israel and Palestine
At a 22 July 2006 demonstration (and later in a Socialist Worker op-ed),[65] Galloway stated "Hezbollah has never been a terrorist organisation!" The National Union of Students of the United Kingdom passed a motion condemning Galloway for this statement. In 2009, Galloway received a Palestinian passport from Hamas leader Ismail Haniya. Hamas are a considered a terrorist organisation by the European Union, and the US.[66]
In an interview with the American radio host Alex Jones, Galloway blamed Israel for creating "conditions in the Arab countries and in some European countries to stampede Jewish people ... into the Zionist state". Jones then alleged that the Zionists funded Hitler, to which Galloway replied that Zionists used the Jewish people "to create this little settler state on the Mediterranean," whose purpose was "to act as an advance guard for their own interests in the Arab world..."[67]
Galloway was introduced as “a former member of the British Houses of Parliament” during a live interview with Qatari Al-Jazeera television, to which he responded: “I am still a member of parliament and was re-elected five times. On the last occasion I was re-elected despite all the efforts made by the British government, the Zionist movement and the newspapers and news media which are controlled by Zionism.”
Galloway expressed support for the Syrian presence in Lebanon five months before it ended, telling the Daily Star of Lebanon "Syrian troops in Lebanon maintain stability and protect the country from Israel". In the same article he expressed his opposition to United Nations Security Council Resolution 1559, which urged the Lebanese Government to establish control over all its territory.[68]
In an interview with the Hizbullah run Al-Manar TV, which aired on 26 July 2011 (as translated by MEMRI), Galloway accused Israel of being responsible for the assassination of Rafiq Al-Hariri, stating that "Israel was the only country with any interest and any benefit to gain from the assassination of the martyr Rafiq Al-Hariri. They are the ones who had the capability to do so, they are the ones who had the motive for doing so, and they are the ones who had the criminal record for doing so. How many hundreds of people has Israel killed in Lebanon? Assassination squads of people landing on the beach, and people planting bombs of one kind or another..." He further stated that "When this inquiry [the Special Tribunal for Lebanon] refused to lead in that direction, I knew it was a fake inquiry" and that "this process and all these individuals are completely discredited."[69][70][71]
Several months earlier in a speech given in Edmonton, Alberta in November 2010, Galloway stated that
“I believe, and I don’t know anybody who is objective in this matter who does not believe, that Hezbollah are absolutely innocent of this crime, and it is time that the tribunal looked to the people who benefited from this crime..in Israel."
Merged double post. -Gigablue
Cicero
February 23rd, 2013, 03:40 PM
Hello guys, just saw a very interesting article about how George Galloway, a british MP for the Respect Party and former Labour MP stormed out of a debate at oxford univeritsity because in his own words he dosen't debate with 'Israelis'. The fact that he is refusing to talk to someone based on there heritage concerns me espically because he is an MP.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/i-dont-debate-with-israelis-george-galloway-accused-of-racism-after-walking-out-of-middle-east-debate-at-oxford-8505232.html
And if you wondering he featured on Big Brother a couple of years ago
Well, it doesn't sound like he's racist. Cause if you talk to an Israeli about the issue of the middle easy, they'd most likely preside on Israel's side. It's like saying "I refuse to debate with a conservative about abortion" because chances are, they are against abortion. They would most likely be closed minded, but that's also closed minded of the guy to not debate with Israelis.
Harry Smith
February 23rd, 2013, 06:26 PM
what is that git on about, calling all israelis terrorists.
And thanks cicero always nice to hear from you, we seem to meet alot on ramblings of the wise
StoppingTime
February 23rd, 2013, 06:35 PM
No as 'Israelis' are terrorist and Zionist so no its not
Merged double post. -Gigablue
Basically, you just said every Israeli/Zionist is a terrorist, and elsewhere you said they control the media and all that other wonderful bullshit nonsense.
If you continue posting these anti-semetic comments, you'll surely be banned. We're not stormfront.
MisterChicken
February 23rd, 2013, 06:39 PM
Basically, you just said every Israeli/Zionist is a terrorist, and elsewhere you said they control the media and all that other wonderful bullshit nonsense.
If you continue posting these anti-semetic comments, you'll surely be banned. We're not stormfront.
Since when Anti Zionism is Anti-Semetic? http://rense.com/general45/antiz.htm Ill stop but what I was trying to say was not all Jewish,Isreali,is a terrorist but Some Zionist are in fact Terrorist NOT ALL are.
StoppingTime
February 23rd, 2013, 06:41 PM
Since when Anti Zionism is Anti-Semetic? http://rense.com/general45/antiz.htm
I didn't claim they were. I was stating that you posted very negative things about both groups, and we won't have that here.
Harry Smith
February 23rd, 2013, 06:46 PM
Mister chicken seems to be a bit confused in a number of his posts. Going back to your original view that zionists are terrorists can you give me a credible source which shows that they use terror and terror alone to spread an idea. Also Hezbollah is a Terrorist organisation according to both the EU and US.
MisterChicken
February 23rd, 2013, 07:54 PM
Well,Isreal invaded Lebanon so The "Militants" created a group going up against it Called "Hezbollah" Which US,UK,Isreal call a "Terrorist group".Hezbollah is a resistance NOT a terrorist group.
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2011/05/isra-m16.html
http://www.outsidethebeltway.com/american_soldiers_kill_unarmed_reuters_reporters_in_iraq_video/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/mar/23/us-soldier-admits-killing-afghans
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/OTUS/guantanamo-bay-open-promises/story?id=16698768
http://www.naturalnews.com/039046_military_drones_American_citizens_murder.html
http://www.internationalnews.fr/article-19549501.html
http://www.dailypaul.com/235730/hillary-clinton-admits-the-us-government-created-al-qaeda
Harry Smith
February 23rd, 2013, 07:56 PM
No, the EU have called it a terrorist group, they are an armed group of militant crimals who sell people, weapons and drugs to fund there extremism. Even the head of the PLO Yasser Arafat broke off relations with them. Hezbollah are terrorists
Schnope
February 24th, 2013, 12:39 AM
Going back to your original question. I wouln't call it racism personally, it is certainly discrimination though. Racism is pretty much where you go "my race is more superior than yours, your race is the lesser race.' Just my thoughts.
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