Are you Pro-Israel or Anti-Israel?

[Cicero]

Do you think we should support Israel (Pro) or do you think we shouldn't support them and leave them on their own (Anti)?

[nothere12345678]

What?

[Harry Smith]

I'm pro israel due to the cold hard fact that they are our ally in the region which is extremely anti britain. I also think that Israel for its land mass and economy has the best military in the world

[Magus]

I am neither. I am an advocate of the Two-State Solution. Palestinians are people, and they have a right to exist.

I'm pro israel due to the cold hard fact that they are our ally in the region which is extremely anti britain. I also think that Israel for its land mass and economy has the best military in the world

The region isn't extremely anti britain. The Gulf states has good ties with Britain. In fact, the gulf state are the least anti-Israeli in the region.

[Harry Smith]

I would say that it is just due to our historical ties, the palenstines hate us on account that Lawarence of Arabia promised them freedom if they fought the ottomans only then to colonize the region, it was also britain who created the state of israel due to the fact that the Land was Soverign territory. In all fairness I should dislike Israel due to the fact in '47 they tried to Kill my Grandad. He had the joy of being out shopping for carpet when they blew up the King David hotel and then he got knocked out at a checkpoint.

[Cicero]

I am neither. I am an advocate of the Two-State Solution. Palestinians are people, and they have a right to exist.



The region isn't extremely anti britain. The Gulf states has good ties with Britain. In fact, the gulf state are the least anti-Israeli in the region.

Yes they has the right to exist, but they're the ones who think Israel doesn't have the right to exist.

[Harry Smith]

Totally agree with Cicero, anti-israel's always make it out as if the Israelis are somehow trying to destroy the arab population within Israel. The bottom line that Israel have fought extremely hard for there land so why would they want to give it up.

[Magus]

Yes they has the right to exist, but they're the ones who think Israel doesn't have the right to exist.

You are generalizing the whole Palestinian population, and equating them to fringe rogue groups, such as the Hamas.

Many Palestinians are either Two-State, or One-State where Israel include Palestinians as a part of the Israeli population(but that's not the case, there are a lot of zionist purist out there).

But after seeing colonist destroying their homes, gardens and making apartments in their lands, and instead of seeing new neighbor they see men in military uniform barging in their house, it's not a surprise that such outlook is produced.

Totally agree with Cicero, anti-israel's always make it out as if the Israelis are somehow trying to destroy the arab population within Israel. The bottom line that Israel have fought extremely hard for there land so why would they want to give it up.

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[Harry Smith]

On the day that Israel declared independence they were attacked by not only the palenstine's but my jordan, syria and egypt. They had to fight for there survival

[Naue]

I honestly don't agree with Israel's hostility to Palestine. I think that Israel needs to realise its situation, personally I don't think that this can go on for much longer.

Israel doesn't help itself by illegally occupying Palestinian land either: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-21274061

I'm not sure what I support, a secular state possibly?

[Harry Smith]

I can't see a secular solution working, it is the only logical one it is just that it would he hard in an area which is so religous

[TheBassoonist]

I support Palestine becoming an independent state and Israel maintaining its independence. I guess I'm pro-Israel, but I don't like there only being two choices. For instance, I don't agree with Israel's massive preemptive air strikes against Gaza or the West Bank. If Israel bombs the Palestinians, radical Palestinians set up some sort of bomb in retaliation, and Israel bombs the West Bank in retaliation. It's a self perpetuating cycle.

Some people in other Arab countries "support" the Palestinians in their efforts, but only when it can lead to harming the Israelis. Palestinian refugees in those countries are treated as bad as, if not worse than, Palestinians in the West Bank, Gaza, or Israel. Generally speaking, countries like Lebanon, Jordan, and Syria don't care at all about the Palestinians. They just want to get rid of the Jews.

The 1947 UN Resolution partitioned an area for a Jewish state and an area for an Arab state, with Jerusalem being an international zone under UN administration. It was the best solution then, and it still is the best solution. But (generally speaking, this is not an absolute statement) Arabs don't want a Jewish state, so they invaded the day after Israel declared its independence, and the conflict is still going on 65 years later in some form. I like to think that, one day, the Arab state of Palestine will be formed peacefully and Israel will be left alone, but I don't think that will happen anytime soon. To answer the question, I am pro-Israel, but I don't like a binary choice.

[MisterChicken]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsRbO7cw__c&list=LLHnYEU9zLwVCjj4WzUhXT-Q Jews and Zionist killed millions watch the video(s) and watch this one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etYNUVnOYk0 The holocaust never happened the only holocaust that is happening is the Palesntines are getting killd from those Zionist. Zionism=NWO

[Twilly F. Sniper]

All I can say is TUAM is an idiot. He's backwards.
I actually see it like this. Why is EVERYONE ELSE so hostile to the JEWS?

[Abyssal Echo]

Pro Israel
I also want to know why so many are hostile towards the Jews

[MisterChicken]

Cuz thier Zionist who killed children..

[Cicero]

Cuz thier Zionist who killed children..

Not on purpose, everyone else is ruthless toward Israel. If anything, the Israeli children are being executed by its enemies.

[MisterChicken]

So Israel can throw 1000s of bombs at Palestine and they shoot 1 back and get conemnd and shot up?...

[Cicero]

So Israel can throw 1000s of bombs at Palestine and they shoot 1 back and get conemnd and shot up?...

That's not how it is, that's probably one isolated incident, but I remember seeing on the news how the enemy was shooting thousands of bombs at Israel on the Gaza.

Israel is protecting itself. Obama asked Israel to give up some land to its enemy, so Israel did in the hopes of peace, then Israel's enemy thought that wasn't enough land and demanded for more.
Removed quoted post. -StopimgTime.

[Iron Man]

I'm neutral. I don't care about Israel, but I don't want to kill them either.

[MisterChicken]

That's not how it is, that's probably one isolated incident, but I remember seeing on the news how the enemy was shooting thousands of bombs at Israel on the Gaza.

Israel is protecting itself. Obama asked Israel to give up some land to its enemy, so Israel did in the hopes of peace, then Israel's enemy thought that wasn't enough land and demanded for more.

Isreal protecting its self?Where did you here that bought out brainwashing Mass media?Palestine is our only hope when its gone they will move on to america want that to happen?

[Cicero]

Isreal protecting its self?Where did you here that bought out brainwashing Mass media?Palestine is our only hope when its gone they will move on to america want that to happen?

Israel never attacked us. Get out of here if you're gonna spread hate and stupid shit, you need to learn your facts.

[MisterChicken]

Wow that video is just fucked up. This isn't a hate thread like you think it is. You're fucking sick. Also, if you really believe the holocaust didnt happen, then you're fucking stupid. It's common knowledge it happened.
Wow in Denial much?

[Cicero]

Wow in Denial much?

You've provided no legit source.

[Iron Man]

Isreal protecting its self?Where did you here that bought out brainwashing Mass media?Palestine is our only hope when its gone they will move on to america want that to happen?

Wow in Denial much?

Do you have a source to back that up?

[MisterChicken]

You've provided no legit source.

http://www.jyrilina.com/index.php?page=under-the-sign-of-the-scorpion--the-rise-and-fall-of-the-soviet-empire

[Iron Man]

http://www.jyrilina.com/index.php?page=under-the-sign-of-the-scorpion--the-rise-and-fall-of-the-soviet-empire

What does that have to do with Israel?

[MisterChicken]

What does that have to do with Israel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0 Isreal=Rothschild=Illuminati=NWO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a38gqKDyCQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8kTa9UkpXo

[Cicero]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW1-_JmXQt0 Isreal=Rothschild=Illuminati=NWO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a38gqKDyCQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8kTa9UkpXo

Stupid little videos don't count. We meant legit sources, CNN, Fox News, etc.

[MisterChicken]

liget sources like FOX CNN -__- thier owned by Zionist all biased brainwashing you dont get it dont you there is 10000s of diff. news sources and you ask for MSM? really?

[Cicero]

liget sources like FOX CNN -__- thier owned by Zionist all biased brainwashing you dont get it dont you there is 10000s of diff. news sources and you ask for MSM? really?

You're brainwashed.

[MisterChicken]

You're brainwashed.

argumentum ad hominem?

[Cicero]

argumentum ad hominem?

What?

[TheBassoonist]

argumentum ad hominem?

Your arguments are not backed up by reliable sources as we "sheeple," as you deem anyone who doesn't abide by conspiracies, view them. Our reputable sources are your brainwashing organizations. Your reputable sources are our stupid and nonsensical pieces of "information." There's absolutely no point in arguing with you. Everything we say, that is, everything you don't say, is viewed by you as part of the conspiracy to take over the world or something. Everything you say is viewed as incompetent by everyone else. Neither can win.

That being said, it would be useful if you would provide sources that the rest of us could actually pretend to believe.

[Korashk]

Ignoring people when they're in "crazy mode" is usually the best thing to do.

Anyhoo, I am very anti-Israel simply for the fact that they have so much more power than the Palestinians, but have convinced so many people that the conflict is even. Launching missiles at Palestine that kill 50 people is hardly equitable retaliation for the Hamas firing a rocket launcher that wounds two people.

[MisterChicken]

http://truthbroadcastnetwork.com/ Here is a good site look for yourself

[Cicero]

http://truthbroadcastnetwork.com/ Here is a good site look for yourself

Just because it has the word truth in it doesn't mean it's the truth.

[MisterChicken]

Just because it has the word truth in it doesn't mean it's the truth.

Yes I know that.

[Magus]

You're brainwashed.

As opposed to you?

Israel never attacked us. Get out of here if you're gonna spread hate and stupid shit, you need to learn your facts.

Can you name me a Country that Attacked U.S Post WWII? Now, this proved the point above.

Also both parties are involved in spreading Propaganda. This is something that no one can deny.

On the day that Israel declared independence they were attacked by not only the palenstine's but my jordan, syria and egypt. They had to fight for there survival

True, they have the right to defend, but that doesn't justifies further occupation and razing of lands after signing several peace treaties. :yummy:

Pro Israel
I also want to know why so many are hostile towards the Jews
:eek:

Not on purpose, everyone else is ruthless toward Israel.And you already know the why.

If anything, the Israeli children are being executed by its enemies.

Let's see who's bombing kids with phosphorus shells, hmmm...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_phosphorus#Gaza_War_.282008.E2.80.932009.29

The terrorist Hamas? Oh wait, no... it's the mighty, peaceful and heroic IDF.

First they commit one big fat lie, and then says they stopped using them. An official military broke an International humanitarian law. Did Israel get shits for using it? No.

Do you want pictures of dead Palestinian kids? Or, you think those pictures are props used as propaganda against the poor, poor good fellow Israel?

Israel continue to this day to raze and occupy Palestinian lands and kill and maim the Palestinian population in their part of the land, and they ask why people hate Israel and why there are people who are anti-Israel?
What
fucking
nerve.

Israel now has the strongest military in the region which is backed by its lapdogs. And they say they are the one who is being abused and all other sort of nonsense from fringe militant group who couldn't scrape a boat.
What
fucking
nerve.

[Harry Smith]

Okay, so what is your plan to sort out the Region. I agree that Israel is rather aggresive in dealing with the palenstines but a two state solution just wouldn't work. Look at India and Pakinstan, still fighting over the khasmir border, 250,000 refugees died when they made the divide in 1948. Do you really thing that Israel would happily hand over it's Land?

[Anonimi]

they just have to quit fighting and do their own business down there, if the only way that happens is via them killing each other down there, so be it

[StoppingTime]

liget sources like FOX CNN -__- thier owned by Zionist all biased brainwashing you dont get it dont you there is 10000s of diff. news sources and you ask for MSM? really?

As mentioned, when stormfront crazies bring their ideas here, it's best to ignore them.

[Life's Like This]

Because of what I and other Lebanese citizens have suffered from (and still suffering from), I am Anti-Israel. However, I respect any Israeli citizen.

[niceguy44]

Mister Chicken needs to get his facts right. Since Israel was founded in 1948 it has offered the palestinians peace. It was other arab nations eg Egypt, Syria, Trans jordan & others that started the wars with Israel.Many Palestinians fled Israel to other arab countries who DIDN'T even want their own people. The majority of Palestinians that live in Israel have a fairly good life. They work in hotels & resturants inside Israel. It's only Hamas & Hizbollah that is causing the problem by hiding among the citizens of Gaza & other Palestinian towns. They send in bombers who blow up Israeli buses , resturants & schools. What is Israel to to? Sit back & take it?

[TheN3rdyOutcast]

I am somewhat Pro Israel because it is somewhat of a payment to the Jewish people for the terrible injustice done to them during the Holocaust, although if only Jews and Palestinians could coexist in the same state, everything would be good.

[Emerald Dream]

Please do not post in threads with more than two months of inactivity. :locked: