Do you think transsexuals are wrong?

[xAlfredo]

Just wondering.
My friend's boyfriend (who used to be her girlfriend) is a FTM and he even changed his name from a girl name to a boy name. Now, he is going to start testosterone, and he also classifies himself as a boy. She's always saying it's her "boyfriend". Honestly, I don't think that's right. A few excuses are that they were assigned the wrong sex at birth. Just no. I'm a Christian, and to my understanding, God didn't make a mistake choosing that you have a vagina and that you are a female. Why do people go to such extreme lengths just to change that fact? Maybe I'm not understanding more to this. I know that I act more like a girl than a boy, but does that mean that I was assigned the wrong sex at birth? No. I also don't understand how I can label myself as a transsexual, or MTF for that matter. Could I really be like one day, "I don't think I was assigned the right sex at birth. I should really be a female. I'm a transsexual!"

[Jess]

There is nothing with transsexuals or being one.

Some people change because they want to be more comfortable in their own bodies. If they want to change, let them.

[Cicero]

I agree. I do not agree with people getting sex changes. God didn't make a mistake, people like to think he did to comfort themselves, but he didn't.

[MisterSix]

They are always really trashy and more often than not, drug fucked in NZ

[ReginaGeorge]

Transgender/transsexual people are totally 100% okay, better than okay, they are normal. They are a different type of normal, but still normal. Still people. Gender is not genitals. You are not a man just because you have a penis, and you are not woman because you have a vagina. There is scientific research that shows the difference between men and women (not males and females), and transgender/transsexual people have the same aspects in their brain as biological females who are women. To believe in this (it's called the gender binary, and it's outdated), also denies the identities of anyone who is not cisgender, so a female who is a women who is feminine. It's not as black and white as boy and girl, there are many many genders, in fact every single person has their own. No one is pure femininity, or pure masculinity. To say that they are 'wrong' is to reject a huge population of boys who like make-up, or girls who don't like dresses, and even smaller factors, like a boy liking the small of lavender, or a girl who plays sport.

It's so much more than simply not liking a transgender person. It's much deeper. As a society, we need to unlearn this gender binary.

Religion is not an excuse to be hateful or disrespectful.

[Hypers]

I think it's OK. It's their body, so they should be able to do whatever they want with it, and that includes gender changes.

[Quiddity]

Transgender/transsexual people are totally 100% okay, better than okay, they are normal. They are a different type of normal, but still normal.

A different type of normal. This sounds awful suspicious, almost like saying it isn't normal.

Describe for us the difference between

(Normal) and (a different time of normal).

Still people. Gender is not genitals. You are not a man just because you have a penis, and you are not woman because you have a vagina. There is scientific research that shows the difference between men and women (not males and females),

Where?

and transgender/transsexual people have the same aspects in their brain as biological females who are women.

Assume this is true, and the research was cited, for later reference.

It's not as black and white as boy and girl, there are many many genders, in fact every single person has their own.

But, wait a minute.

and transgender/transsexual people have the same aspects in their brain as biological females who are women.

Seems to me as though, you showed us yourself, that it is as black and white as boy or girl; or are we to disregard this earlier statement that I just reiterated?

and transgender/transsexual people have the same aspects in their brain as biological females who are women. No one is pure femininity, or pure masculinity.

No one is saying that a person is purely femininity, nor is anyone saying that a person is pure masculinity, that would be silly. Just like no one person is pure heterosexuality, because that is a category and not itself a subject, but a type of subject.

It's so much more than simply not liking a transgender person. It's much deeper. As a society, we need to unlearn this gender binary.

Religion is not an excuse to be hateful or disrespectful.

Help us unlearn this gender binary by presenting one example of where the gender is not either male or female.

[Horizon]

I think it's perfectly okay to be transsexual.

It's not really a matter of how a person acts, it's how they feel about their body.
I don't really think it's about how they act, it's how they feel in their body, and why it doesn't feel right to them.

[workingatperfect]

To say that they are 'wrong' is to reject a huge population of boys who like make-up, or girls who don't like dresses, and even smaller factors, like a boy liking the small of lavender, or a girl who plays sport.

That's not at all what he was saying, and I have no clue how you got that out of what he said. There's a difference between a girl not liking dresses, and a girl thinking that she's meant to be a boy. Gender roles have nothing to do with what he said.

[Troy35216]

I have only known one person who said he was transsexual and that person was definitely wrong. he said Nickelback is the greatest band ever and everyone knows Nickelback sucks. wrong wrong wrong wrong!! I don't think it was cuz he was transsexual tho I think he just has sucky taste in music. and if anyone gives me anonymous negative rep for this post i bet you were conceived at a Nickelback concert.

[Syvelocin]

Kay, I love transgenders. Love them. I support them, I'm behind them 100%.

I have issues, but not with them. It's a completely valid feeling and a terrible situation to be in, really. To feel like your body doesn't match your head.

I personally believe we're all gender neutral however, and that's where my head gets really puzzled. I think we are both and neither gender, because A. a lot of what we think is male and female is social customs, stereotypes, etc. What if gender roles were swapped? (I know trans is much more than gender roles) B. a shocking amount of gender identity I believe is insecurity, in both sexes. I feel like we'd both be a lot more feminine/masculine if we let ourselves be such. But because it's almost shunned, especially for men, we feel like we must be a certain way just because that's life, when really, gender is so fluid, and what's between our legs doesn't have to and SHOULDN'T govern our self-expression. I feel like even people who are truly content with their gender role are blissfully unaware of who they really are. Maybe they truly are more the gender that matches their sex, but I'm quite confident there's still femininity/masculinity in the mix somewhere, in whatever amount.

[Korashk]

I'm sure they're wrong sometimes, nobody is right 100% of the time. Don't know what them being transexual has to do with anything though.

[Troy35216]

hit enter too soon and didn't know it. sorry for the double post

[Troy35216]

holy crap. I try to make a point of saying that there is nothing "wrong" with being transsexual by saying that the only thing wrong with transsexuals is i disagree with the musical taste of one of them. in other words, they are normal people. and the people who slam me with negative rep are the PEOPLE I AM AGREEING WITH! WTF. learn how to fucking read. i am saying there is nothing wrong with them. and you slam me? and say "how does musical taste have anything to do with sexuality?" IT DOESN'T!!!! that was my point. jesus christ. i can't believe i get in trouble for fucking agreeing with people. i hate to see what you do if i actually say something that you disagree with.

I'm sure they're wrong sometimes, nobody is right 100% of the time. Don't know what them being transexual has to do with anything though.

that is what I tried to say but i got in trouble for it. i hope you had better luck than i did

Double posts merged. -StoppingTime.

[Cognizant]

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"God chose them to be (said gender)."

It annoys me when people think it's wrong. Is it wrong to be gay, bisexual, lesbian? Why does the "T" in LGBT have to be left out of this whole 'acceptance' ordeal? They're human. They breathe air. What does it matter to you if they feel like a girl but have a penis, or have a vagina but feel like a guy? Maybe somebody likes makeup. Why do you care? It's their choice! Do you see them saying "Oh my GOD, you're wearing THOSE shoes? That's so fucking abnormal for your type." No! You don't! Why? Because you think you look good in them. There's people out there with penises that like to wear make up and do their thing. Why is it so taboo to wear clothes intended for a specified gender, yet it's okay for you to wear the shoes that you wear or the clothes that you wear? Why do you care?

[project_icarus]

So, me personally. You're saying that I am 'wrong' simply because I am a girl. Please, do define what you mean by 'wrong.' With that out the way...

A few excuses are that they were assigned the wrong sex at birth.
Okay, mate, look up something. Gender dysphoria. And they aren't 'excuses,' these are actual facts. A transgender person may have actually been born with 'incorrect' genitals, or even male & female genitals.

Just no. I'm a Christian, and to my understanding, God didn't make a mistake choosing that you have a vagina and that you are a female. Why do people go to such extreme lengths just to change that fact?
Please do provide me with proof that that is, per se, a fact. And who are you, exactly, to say that it is 'wrong' for somebody to identify as gender (or no gender at all) that isn't respective of what their sex was at birth.
For me, 'god' didn't make a wrong decision by giving me a penis. He didn't make any decision at all, for me.

Could I really be like one day, "I don't think I was assigned the right sex at birth. I should really be a female. I'm a transsexual!"
This, right here, really did annoy me. Honestly I think that's pretty insensitive.

I do not agree with people getting sex changes.
Good thing you don't have to get one.

God didn't make a mistake, people like to think he did to comfort themselves, but he didn't.
I reaffirm to you my above response.
'god' didn't make a wrong decision by giving me a penis. He didn't make any decision at all, for me.
And, excuse me? I'm not comforting myself by thinking that a deity made a mistake. I don't believe that said deity even exists.

Where? (in response to "There is scientific research that shows the difference between men and women (not males and females)")
Please do feel free to have a read through. (http://www.freedom.org.au/Info/Info-Pages/gender-diversity/menu-id-110.html)

...wrong...
I'm still unsure as to the the sense that people in this thread are using that word with. Morally wrong? Explain, please.

[Gwen]

I don't see why people have to concern themselves with people's decisions to change their gender. If they want to make a life changing decision like that, let them. If they change gender it isn't going to ruin your life so please stop being a bunch a bitches and let people live their life and make their decisions.

[xmojox]

Just wondering.
My friend's boyfriend (who used to be her girlfriend) is a FTM and he even changed his name from a girl name to a boy name. Now, he is going to start testosterone, and he also classifies himself as a boy. She's always saying it's her "boyfriend". Honestly, I don't think that's right. A few excuses are that they were assigned the wrong sex at birth. Just no. I'm a Christian, and to my understanding, God didn't make a mistake choosing that you have a vagina and that you are a female. Why do people go to such extreme lengths just to change that fact? Maybe I'm not understanding more to this. I know that I act more like a girl than a boy, but does that mean that I was assigned the wrong sex at birth? No. I also don't understand how I can label myself as a transsexual, or MTF for that matter. Could I really be like one day, "I don't think I was assigned the right sex at birth. I should really be a female. I'm a transsexual!"

Google " sexual ambiguity at birth" and do some reading. It's more common than anyone might think. Hope this helps.

[WalkingOnDisaster]

I don't know enough about transsexuality to have an opinion.

[Harry Smith]

God isn't at all involved with the process of reproduction. It is to do with the X and Y genes where men have the X and the Y chromosome and women have two of the X. Then you get a nice little punnet square up and it shows you that there is a 50/50 chance for a boy or a girl. But leaving science behind why should it matter what the magic man in the sky intends for you, if your transsexual then it is 100 percent fine with me, just as I hope the fact that I like blokes is 100 percent fine with everyone, I know it's not but thats another issue

[jayyy-lmao]

Some people aren't comfortable with who they are. Some people are comfortable with it, and I don't see a problem, but it would weird me a little.

[Human]

Are you saying the person doesn't have a choice? It's the persons choice as it's their body and personality.

[PinkFloyd]

Nope. I have no issue with them at all. They are just fitting their own preferances which is fine with me.

[Sleepwalking]

I'm not going to claim I know a lot about the subject, but I see nothing wrong with it.
If it doesn't directly affect you, then why be bothered by it?
It just seems like you're going out of your way to make people feel bad.

Also, just because you're religious doesn't mean everybody else is. Don't use that as an excuse.

[Gigablue]

I honestly don't see why anyone cares if someone wants to change their sex, or live in a way more typical of the other sex. It doesn't affect you in any way. I say, let people do what ever makes them happiest. If they feel like they were born with the wrong sex, let them change it.

[AbbaZabba]

My views, like so many like this, are simply, it's their life, who in the hell am I to tell them how to live it.

[Sir Suomi]

Quite honestly, I think it's quite disturbing. I know, you may feel like your personality is similar to the opposite sex doesn't mean you need to chop off your dick. Now, I'd never say it to someone who had a sex change's face, but still.

[tundravortex]

well not really because some people feel like they were ment to be a girl in stead of a dude so they change it to make them selfs happy

[Magus]

Transexual is the best thing in the world. If there areno transexuals in this world, I wouldn't be here. I love transexuals! they are the best thing in the world! they make me happy!

If you don't like transexuals, then you are sick in your head. Really sick. No, this is not sarcasm, this is real stuff.

If you hate transexual or think it is wrong, then there something really wrong with you, and should speak about it with your therapists. Yes.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

It's 100 percent okay, not exactly normal (that doesn't exist)
In fact, I had a boyfriend at one time that wanted one, he was so cute :) But to continue my point.
Just because somebody wants to be different doesn't make it immoral. Oh, such is the randomness of birth. It isn't "assigned" it's randomly chosen like a hand from a shuffled deck of cards. End point.
My own opinion about becoming one:
Personally, I don't really want one myself, it's expensive and I'm not interested in giving birth, though I'd look much more attractive as a female :)

[Jinxxy]

God's not real, we are the boss of our own existence, body, feelings, life, etc.
I was friends with someone who identified as male and they were really lovely, they were NOT trashy, a Sinner, or the work of some devil. They aren't possessed by an exorcist, either.

I'm Gender Fluid, meaning I identify as both male and female. You think I'm confused or I'm going to Hell? I'm not. Because there is not Heaven or Hell.

I've never seen such a large amount of haters just because "The Bible said it" or it's what their church tells them! Urrgh.

I thought this generation were meant to change this judgemental world for the better, not cause yet another generation of judgemental bigots?