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NORTH.KN16HT
February 8th, 2013, 08:29 PM
What are your thoughts on the death penalty? Positive? Negitive?
Discuss.

Cicero
February 8th, 2013, 09:38 PM
Both. It's positive because it can help get the real psychos out if this world, who basically deserve to die. Negative because I believe no one should determine the death of another human being, and its also negative because its like the easy way out for those criminals, cause its more of a punishment staying in prison the rest of your life. They conflict I know, but they conflict because I feel conflicted.

Jess
February 8th, 2013, 10:00 PM
I'm against it.

The killers get too easy of a way out. They deserve to suffer life imprisonment.

With the death penalty, do we teach others killing is wrong by killing killers? I don't really think that's right. Also, what if the person is innocent? If we end up executing him or her...well we just killed an innocent person. Mistakes are made, and sometimes we end up killing innocent people. There's no taking it back.

ReginaGeorge
February 8th, 2013, 10:02 PM
There was a post just like this not too long ago. My thoughts are exactly the same as Cicero, yes, it would ultimately benefit society to not have those people around, but we as humans cannot play God, their life is no more important or less important than ours and it's not our call. Also yes, it is the easy way out for them, but also a life "suffering" in prison with free food, shelter, and healthcare costs taxers payers millions of dollars to give criminals those things when they may not have it themselves.

I see both points in both sides of the argument, but ultimately, I'm against it.

(For the record, atheist. Playing God is a figure of speech.)

Coolboi
February 8th, 2013, 10:07 PM
if you are caught killing children women or men on video or by people watching as you hurt the human race you need the death penalty ! now if they can't prove it by that ok . Why should you get to live if you killed someone or be put in prison to live at the tax payers expense soon to be us paying taxes as we start to work . I no this is harsh but it's how I feel . It's sad to think anyone would hurt anybody like that .

Skyline
February 8th, 2013, 10:12 PM
I think there are positives and negatives... Positives being, we don't have to deal with criminals, its cheaper than holding them for life sentences.. Negatives being, they get the easy way out, it often takes years for the criminal to be put to death, and taking another's life of course.

Cicero
February 8th, 2013, 10:30 PM
I think there are positives and negatives... Positives being, we don't have to deal with criminals, its cheaper than holding them for life sentences.. Negatives being, they get the easy way out, it often takes years for the criminal to be put to death, and taking another's life of course.

Just said what I said :D haha

Skyline
February 8th, 2013, 10:32 PM
Just said what I said :D haha

Lol I didn't notice :P Great Minds think alike!!!

Cicero
February 8th, 2013, 10:48 PM
Lol I didn't notice :P Great Minds think alike!!!

Yeah! *high five!*

MisterSix
February 8th, 2013, 11:02 PM
I'm for it. If there didn't have to be million dollar appeals, it would be very appealing.

If they aren't allowed to be executed I think they should be lobotomized

Taryn98
February 9th, 2013, 10:10 AM
I'm all for it. There are many people that simply don't deserve to live. If you've killed someone intentionally, raped someone, or harmed children, it's over, get them out of here permanently. Leaving them in prison for decades is pointless and a huge waste of money. Also, it doesn't prove anything. Some people live a better life in prison than they did on the outside.
My only problem with it is the cost associated with the never ending appeals. I think if you're convicted, you can one appeal. If you lose that, they take you directly to the execution chamber. It shouldn't take years from trial to execution.

workingatperfect
February 9th, 2013, 10:19 AM
I'm against it. It's a worse punishment to make them sit in jail for their life. Plus, if new evidence comes about somehow that proves them innocent, then that person died for nothing. I'm sure it doesn't happen often, especially since they're normally imprisoned for a while before they get executed, but still.

Cicero
February 9th, 2013, 01:57 PM
There was a post just like this not too long ago. My thoughts are exactly the same as Cicero, yes, it would ultimately benefit society to not have those people around, but we as humans cannot play God, their life is no more important or less important than ours and it's not our call. Also yes, it is the easy way out for them, but also a life "suffering" in prison with free food, shelter, and healthcare costs taxers payers millions of dollars to give criminals those things when they may not have it themselves.

I see both points in both sides of the argument, but ultimately, I'm against it.

(For the record, atheist. Playing God is a figure of speech.)

They don't deserve those amenities. They deserve 2 meals a day, 10 mins outside a day, and to sit in their cell doing nothing. I'm talking about serial killers, not theirs, or drug dealers or anything like that. Just serial murderers. Cause who knows, that person might've sincerely needed to protect himself but couldn't get a good lawyer.

Lost in the Echo
February 9th, 2013, 04:08 PM
I'm for it.
If someone kills another person, or commits a seriously heinous crime, then they deserve to die.
It's understandable for someone to think the death penalty is the "easy way out" but in my opinion, if someone commits a crime serious enough, then they don't deserve to live, because they're just a waste of space.
Also I think the death penalty serves justice for homicide victims, and their families.
If someone you knew, was killed by another person, you would want that criminal to suffer the same fate, right?

I think more often than not, the death penalty is justified.

Jess
February 9th, 2013, 04:18 PM
I'm for it.
If someone kills another person, or commits a seriously heinous crime, then they deserve to die.
It's understandable for someone to think the death penalty is the "easy way out" but in my opinion, if someone commits a crime serious enough, then they don't deserve to live, because they're just a waste of space.
Also I think the death penalty serves justice for homicide victims, and their families.
If someone you knew, was killed by another person, you would want that criminal to suffer the same fate, right?

I think more often than not, the death penalty is justified.

But how are we any better, killing the person that killed someone? What if he/she is mentally ill? What if he/she shows deep remorse? What about the family of the person that's accused of murder?

Lost in the Echo
February 9th, 2013, 04:26 PM
But how are we any better, killing the person that killed someone? What if he/she is mentally ill? What if he/she shows deep remorse? What about the family of the person that's accused of murder?

Well, that's up to the judge.
I'm just saying, if the crime is really heinous, and the person shows no remorse, then they deserve to be put to death.
There are a lot of factors in determining whether or not someone deserves the death penalty, but I think the death penalty should always be an option, because there are vicious and heinous crimes, in which the death penalty would be deserving, to the person convicted of the murder.

Jess
February 9th, 2013, 04:31 PM
Well, that's up to the judge.
I'm just saying, if the crime is really heinous, and the person shows no remorse, then they deserve to be put to death.
There are a lot of factors in determining whether or not someone deserves the death penalty, but I think the death penalty should always be an option, because there are vicious and heinous crimes, in which the death penalty would be deserving, to the person convicted of the murder.

I understand. I may be against it, but sometimes when someone does a really horrible crime - and evidence points that the criminal is 100% innocent, shows no remorse etc - part of me do thinks that person deserves to die.

Human
February 9th, 2013, 06:40 PM
I'm definitely against it. Not only is it expensive to execute them (about 30% more on average than keeping them in jail for 40 years) but I don't think two wrongs make a right. I don't think just killing them is the way to go - for the psychopath sickos, they don't care. It's the easy way out, they'd be bored sitting in jail with no one to kill. Those on death row for years might eventually repent completely, they might want to go out and be good citizens but there fate is sealed. They're going to die despite being changed people.

Instead of death sentences, it should just be 23 hours locked up in a cell a day for their life.

RedViper
February 9th, 2013, 07:34 PM
Australia doesn't have the death penalty. I personally think we should. I also believe people who can rape a woman or child, or kill someone just for shits and giggles should be made to suffer. Break a few bones, leave a few scars. Let the fuckers feel some pain.

pastel
February 9th, 2013, 07:38 PM
I'm on the positive side. For those who wish to start a crime that severe do deserve a Death Penalty. It's only fair. It is a way to get rid of those psychos and freaks that cause a threat into people lives.

Knowing those people are still alive, the world is never safe.

@StevenSlaughter " I'm completely in agreement with your statement.

Gigablue
February 9th, 2013, 08:49 PM
I think it's a terrible idea. Justice should be about rehabilitation or, if that's impossible, isolation. Vengeance shouldn't be the goal of the justice system, and that's all the death penalty is. Life in prison serves the same function, as well as being cheaper, more ethical and, most importantly, reversible. Many innocent people have been executed, and nothing can bring them back.

Twilly F. Sniper
February 9th, 2013, 08:52 PM
Bad plan.
Make them suffer. Please. Thanks.

Professional Russian
February 11th, 2013, 06:37 AM
An Eye for an Eye and a Tooth for a Tooth. That is all

jayyy-lmao
February 15th, 2013, 09:25 AM
Pros:
Gets the real psychos out of this world.

Cons:
Easy way out for criminals.

Human
February 15th, 2013, 12:30 PM
look up about failed executions and wrongful executions...

MisterSix
February 15th, 2013, 10:45 PM
look up about failed executions and wrongful executions...

I guess you will also have to look up recidivist murders

azorne
February 17th, 2013, 12:48 PM
I have no sympathy for the death penalty. I understand the fact that they might be a problem to society, but humans are stupid, and as wise as the judge might be, (s)he's still prey to our complete idiocy.