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ProudConservative
February 7th, 2013, 10:25 PM
I being this issue to you here today because I want to point something out, the way the federal government works. Here's the basics:
•Executive-Enforce laws
•Legislative-Create laws
•Judicial-Interprets laws

I'm just pointing this out to show and prove that the Executive Branch can do whatever the hell they want if they have their own party as a Congressional majority. Right now, Obama has violated the Constitution many times, and you haven't seen any impeachment orders, why?
Congress is liberal, and the Senate removes you from office of you're found guilty in the House. He would be found guilty in the House, but by a very slim margin. He would then move on to be tried by the Senate. The overwhelmingly liberal Senate would keep him in office, and he can't be tried again because of double jeopardy.

Here's an example from the early-1800's, in Marbury v Madison. Jefferson was about to get inaugurated into office, but Adams make a few last minute appointments approved by the Senate. All but a few got to the appointees. John Marshall, the one who was supposed to deliver Marbury's writ. It never got to Marbury, so he sued. Now back to Jefferson, he threatened to not listen to the Court's ruling because he doesn't have to. No president has to listen to the SCOTUS.

This proves that Obama is can do whatever the hell he wants to, because he's the President of the US, and everyone can tell him what to do, but he doesn't have to listen. This doesn't just include Obama, it includes EVERY President. This is the one big fault of the Constitution, having the Executive Branch enforce laws. Although there are multiple safeguards built into the Constitution to prevent the US from going into tyranny, but when/if it does, that's why the 2nd Amendment is there.

WaffleSingSong
February 7th, 2013, 10:50 PM
I being this issue to you here today because I want to point something out, the way the federal government works. Here's the basics:
•Executive-Enforce laws
•Legislative-Create laws
•Judicial-Interprets laws

Ok...next...

I'm just pointing this out to show and prove that the Executive Branch can do whatever the hell they want if they have their own party as a Congressional majority. Right now, Obama has violated the Constitution many times, and you haven't seen any impeachment orders, why?

Yes, he has violated the Constitution, but he done it in a way where many presidents have done before. Illegal military intervention in other nations (since he never gave congress consent.)

Congress is liberal

Well, not really. Both the Republicans and the Democrats are right-winged in my book, just one more than the other. There are hardly any true liberals in Congress.

and the Senate removes you from office of you're found guilty in the House. He would be found guilty in the House, but by a very slim margin. He would then move on to be tried by the Senate. The overwhelmingly liberal Senate would keep him in office, and he can't be tried again because of double jeopardy.

The process you told is true, but I hardly think that he would be impeached right now. Again, there is hardly any true Liberals in congress. Barack Obama is a moderate, borderline conservative.

This proves that Obama is can do whatever the hell he wants to

Well, he tried to close G-bay, but he could not. Why? That little system that you described earlier is why.

because he's the President of the US, and everyone can tell him what to do, but he doesn't have to listen

Again, that wonderful system you shown earlier nulls your statement. And, if he does override that, then he will have to deal with a VERY pissed off population and angry democratic allies.

This doesn't just include Obama, it includes EVERY President. This is the one big fault of the Constitution, having the Executive Branch enforce laws. Although there are multiple safeguards built into the Constitution to prevent the US from going into tyranny, but when/if it does, that's why the 2nd Amendment is there.

Well, we tried to have very limited executive power. It was called the Articles of Confederation which was signed in 1777. The national government was broke and had no army because it could not tax, there was a huge rebellion in Massachusetts from pissed farmers led by Daniel Shay that had to be crushed by the Mass Militia, and Virginia and Maryland were on the verge of fisticuffs. Know what we did then? We made a new document, the U.S Constitution!

As for the comment about the 2nd amendment, there is more grandiose ways of keeping a government in check, like a well-educated populace and grassroots democracy, which are two things D.C does not give two shits about trying to accomplish when other western, democratic and developed countries are at least trying to push in there policies.