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Jess
January 28th, 2013, 07:07 PM
Boy Scouts considering end to ban on gays (http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/boy-scouts-end-ban-gays-193808487.html)

The Boy Scouts of America is considering an end to its longstanding policy of banning gay Scouts and Scout leaders, the organization said on Monday.

The new policy would eliminate the ban on gays from the organization's national rules, allowing local chapters to decide for themselves.

“The BSA is discussing potentially removing the national membership restriction regarding sexual orientation," Deron Smith, a spokesman for the Boy Scouts of America, wrote in an email to Yahoo News. "This would mean there would no longer be any national policy regarding sexual orientation, but that the chartered organizations that oversee and deliver Scouting would accept membership and select leaders consistent with their organization’s mission, principles or religious beliefs."

The 102-year-old Dallas-based organization represents 290 local councils, more than 116,000 local organizations and 2.6 million youth members.

The move would allow parents to then "choose a local unit which best meets the needs of their families,” Smith added. “The policy change under discussion would allow the religious, civic or educational organizations that oversee and deliver Scouting to determine how to address this issue. The Boy Scouts would not, under any circumstances, dictate a position to units, members or parents."

It would also be a public reversal of policy for an organization that recently rejected calls for change. In July 2012, following an internal study on the issue, the Boy Scouts of America's executive board issued a statement affirming the ban, saying it was “the best policy for the organization.”

That decision followed the forced resignations of gay Scout leaders and the denial of an Eagle Award to Ryan Andresen, a California high-school senior who had recently come out to his friends and family.

The ban prompted a response from the White House, which said President Barack Obama sharply opposed it. “He also opposes discrimination in all forms,” the White House said in a statement, "and as such opposes this policy that discriminates on basis of sexual orientation."

According to NBC, some board members urged the youth organization to reconsider its policy as some sponsoring organizations responded by withdrawing their financial support of the group.

Change.org petitions opposing the ban have collected more than 1.2 million signatures. And according to Scouts for Equality, at least 350 Eagle Scouts returned their pins in protest.

Syvelocin
January 28th, 2013, 07:43 PM
Seriously, they even have that ban? I was unaware of this. But I guess I'm not surprised as much, since gay men are less tolerated. But Girl Scouts is LGBT-inclusive and I can't recall a time in the near past that they weren't so. If they don't have a problem with it, I don't understand why Boy Scouts has a problem with it.

Good for them if it happens.

Dooby the potato god
January 28th, 2013, 07:45 PM
I'm pretty sure Scouts over here in England doesn't have that ban.

Foamy
January 28th, 2013, 07:46 PM
It only took them 102 years to learn. Even if its just local chapters that can decide whether to include the LGBT would be great.

rockNroll
January 28th, 2013, 08:20 PM
As a boy scout (a straight one, but anyway) I can say that, although the "officials" may care what your sexuality is, most individual troops probably wouldn't care unless of course you're coming onto other people all the time or stuff like that.

Sugaree
January 28th, 2013, 08:49 PM
Something tells me that the Boy Scouts were going to lose federal funding if they didn't do this.

PinkFloyd
January 28th, 2013, 09:45 PM
All I can say is good. I really hope they finally accept the LGBT community!

Jess
January 28th, 2013, 10:51 PM
Seriously, they even have that ban? I was unaware of this. But I guess I'm not surprised as much, since gay men are less tolerated. But Girl Scouts is LGBT-inclusive and I can't recall a time in the near past that they weren't so. If they don't have a problem with it, I don't understand why Boy Scouts has a problem with it.

Good for them if it happens.

I agree. I always wondered why BS had the ban in the first place, when Girl Scouts never had one and seemed more tolerant.....

Skyline
January 28th, 2013, 11:41 PM
Something tells me that the Boy Scouts were going to lose federal funding if they didn't do this.

This! I bet so many sponsors pulled their funding it was either this or stand on the side of the street begging for spare change.

FreeFall
January 28th, 2013, 11:52 PM
Something tells me that the Boy Scouts were going to lose federal funding if they didn't do this.

My thoughts exactly.

somegirl
January 29th, 2013, 12:42 AM
It's about time. We're all the same no matter who we date or sleep with.

ProudConservative
January 29th, 2013, 12:25 PM
As a boy scout (a straight one, but anyway) I can say that, although the "officials" may care what your sexuality is, most individual troops probably wouldn't care unless of course you're coming onto other people all the time or stuff like that.

I can attest to this, most individual troops do not enforce these rules at all. By the way, it's local charters, not chapters.

Human
January 29th, 2013, 02:22 PM
that's great news!
but to be honest, how did they even know if members were gay?

ProudConservative
January 29th, 2013, 10:16 PM
that's great news!
but to be honest, how did they even know if members were gay?

They don't.

HunterSteele
January 30th, 2013, 08:21 PM
By the way, it's local charters, not chapters.
No, it's chapters. A chapter means a local branch of a large organization. Just like a long book is split into chapters, a large nationwide organization can be split into local chapters.

how did they even know if members were gay?
They don't. You just can't join if you're openly gay. If your family and friends know you're gay but they don't you just have to hope no one slips up and accidentally mentions it.

ProudConservative
January 30th, 2013, 08:43 PM
No, it's chapters. A chapter means a local branch of a large organization. Just like a long book is split into chapters, a large nationwide organization can be split into local chapters.


The individual Boy Scout troops have to have a charter organization to be official. For example, a church, or a school.

HunterSteele
January 30th, 2013, 09:32 PM
The individual Boy Scout troops have to have a charter organization to be official. For example, a church, or a school.
Yet the individual troops are still called chapters.

Human
January 31st, 2013, 01:34 PM
No, it's chapters. A chapter means a local branch of a large organization. Just like a long book is split into chapters, a large nationwide organization can be split into local chapters.


They don't. You just can't join if you're openly gay. If your family and friends know you're gay but they don't you just have to hope no one slips up and accidentally mentions it.

ah okay. i think it should just be like a dont ask dont tell kind of thing anyway, i think most things should just be like that so there's less conflict