Just a typical Sunday, or not?

[Gaybaby94]

Tomorrow, January 20, 2013 is just a Sunday. A day for the faithful to use their ignorance to become lazy and spread more hateful messages. So while they do that, over half the country will be celebrating the second inauguration of President Barack Obama, who happens to be a major supporter of gay rights, and a personal favorite of mine, the appearance of Lady Gaga as well. So I hope that if you are celebrating a victory of equal rights or relishing in hateful ignorance, live life to the fullest tomorrow as it is a victory in the fight for equality and a sign that the country is finally moving forward!

PS, it was four years ago that I turned my back in religion forever. When I went (out of curiosity) to church just a couple days prior to Obama's first inauguration, and I swear the message sounded like the KKK written it. Against blacks, against homosexuals. It was so hateful that I left and on that day decided to fight religion in the name of equal rights.

[Guillermo]

You would have gotten along great with this guy if he were still alive (well kind of... minus the equal rights part):

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Mao_Zedong_portrait.jpg/250px-Mao_Zedong_portrait.jpg

"Religion is poison." - said to have been stated by Mao Zedong

[Wonder.]

I wouldn't consider it a great victory. Obama's not that great. I'm glad he won instead of Romney though.

[somegirl]

I read a story I think on NBC news or something like that said that the US is in a funk over four more years of Obama. My first thought was well, all of you who voted for him are to blame. The same article said that he still remains popular regardless.

I support equal rights but would have preferred someone else in there the next four years.

I wonder how many people supported his Obama Care thinking that it would mean free health care not knowing each of us will have to pay for it either through private care or through an employer.

[Wonder.]

I read a story I think on NBC news or something like that said that the US is in a funk over four more years of Obama. My first thought was well, all of you who voted for him are to blame. The same article said that he still remains popular regardless.

I support equal rights but would have preferred someone else in there the next four years.

I wonder how many people supported his Obama Care thinking that it would mean free health care not knowing each of us will have to pay for it either through private care or through an employer.

People are pissed because almost half the population voted for Romney and I'm sure half the people who voted Obama only did just so Rommey wouldn't win. I don't blame them, Obama's a bad president. Sure he has good intentions, but when his ideas are put into effect, it screws people over. Except of course the lazy people without jobs who are getting all the taxpayers' money.

[Lost in the Echo]

Now, I respect your beliefs and everything, I agree, the LGBT community should have the same rights as everyone else, but saying "A day for the faithful to use their ignorance to become lazy and spread more hateful messages" is out of line.
Not everyone who is faithful, is against LGBT rights.
What you said makes you sound hateful as well.

Think about what you say, before you say it.

[workingatperfect]

Now, I respect your beliefs and everything, I agree, the LGBT community should have the same rights as everyone else, but saying "A day for the faithful to use their ignorance to become lazy and spread more hateful messages" is out of line.
Not everyone who is faithful, is against LGBT rights.
What you said makes you sound hateful as well.

Think about what you say, before you say it.


This, exactly. People like you give atheists their bad name. I'm not religious anymore but the church I used to go to preached love for everyone. The first time I went he said that he didn't care if you were black, white, gay, straight or addicted to drugs, he would except you anyway you were and love you because Jesus did. That he would treat you the same as everyone else. And he did. He was there for me through anything I needed help with, despite the fact that I drank, did drugs and was attracted to girls. He never told me I was going to hell, he didn't do anything like that at all. And yes, this was a Christian group.


So before you go generalizing all religious people as hateful and ignorant, maybe you should educate yourself so you'll appear a bit less like what you're rallying against.

[Bath]

We all know nothing is going to change anyway.

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[Lyra Heartstrings]

I'll be completely honest. I am not big on religion. I don't go to church, nor do I recognize that I belong to any religion.
However
Even though I don't like religion, does not mean I think that anybody is hateful and ignorant. They have been raised to think this way. Do I agree with it? Hell no. Am I going to stand around and take it? 'Course not. But it doesn't mean that I, or anyone else, need to be rude to someone based on belief.
I will be watching this thread. Do not let it get out of hand.

[Human]

Almost everyone in England is in support of Obama, even where I am from which is a country village where people are very conservative so that's a shock! I like him too, I think he's great.

[Lyra Heartstrings]

TWPR :arrow: ROTW

[Anonimi]

Couldn't pass this thread without giving my opinion, hope you guys and girls respect it.

For people thinking Obama is bad for equalizing the poor and the rich, think about this:
Your fired and can't find a job, on top of that your wife gets in a coma
who would take care of you?

For people saying that another group of people (like a religion, nation, ethnic group etc.) are bad, cause violence, are all great, love people or do anything, you always have exceptions, and even if a lot of people you know from that group of people do something, it sure does not mean most of the people of that group do that.

For people saying Romney is bad:
agree for the most part because with him on as president i think the US would become an elite with working forces that are treated quite bad, but i can't say all his points are bad, and i also don't know everything because i live in Europe and i didn't follow their whole campaign.

For people saying Obama is bad:
Maybe he isn't doing everything as good as he promises, but at least his intentions are good, and is there any better candidate?

For people saying America's politics in general are not very good:
completely agree, on YouTube somebody called CGPgrey has some good video's why.

would love to hear some criticism and feedback on my thoughts, if one thing, it only improves me

You would have gotten along great with this guy if he were still alive (well kind of... minus the equal rights part):

image (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e8/Mao_Zedong_portrait.jpg/250px-Mao_Zedong_portrait.jpg)

"Religion is poison." - said to have been stated by Mao Zedong

If one thing communism in essence is about equal rights of people

Please don't double post. ~Dimentio

[TheBigUnit]

This, exactly. People like you give atheists their bad name. I'm not religious anymore but the church I used to go to preached love for everyone. The first time I went he said that he didn't care if you were black, white, gay, straight or addicted to drugs, he would except you anyway you were and love you because Jesus did. That he would treat you the same as everyone else. And he did. He was there for me through anything I needed help with, despite the fact that I drank, did drugs and was attracted to girls. He never told me I was going to hell, he didn't do anything like that at all. And yes, this was a Christian group.


So before you go generalizing all religious people as hateful and ignorant, maybe you should educate yourself so you'll appear a bit less like what you're rallying against.

Exactly

Sure there are some pastors that sound a bit crazy, most pators are good caring people, you're no better by picking on a small group and emphasising on them, I think you just didn't feel like you "belonged" there especially seeing some catholic priests in particular don't really approve of homosexuality and making you feel guilty making you pick on subject to exagerate things to your point of view,

the fact is majority of the churches are open and accepting of peoples choices and I see it pathetic of any parishes too backwards and illeducated

by the way I wouldn't be waving all the flags for obama, obama likes to show at least that he's on the outside that he is christian, his pastor at his old church is a vocal maniac shouting many of your claim against the church also only recently did obama really fully approve of gay marriage and that was before the elections,

Anyway its good seeing our world changing into a more accepting
And forward place to live in

[Guillermo]

If one thing communism in essence is about equal rights of people

Yeah, but Zedong never explicitly advocated for gay rights as Gaybaby does. That's what I was really trying to get at.

[Jess]

OP I agree with you in some aspects. Some religious people are ignorant and will spread hateful messages. But you shouldn't assume that every single religious person does that. Mostly it's the extremists. I am in full support of equal rights.

[FreeFall]

You clearly meant the religious fanatics, right? Just like our fanatic and militant atheists, poison the world against us and make a terrible name for atheists.

I'm half offended, because my parents go to church to love god. That's their thing, they leave me out of it. They can be ignorant, hateful and blind in their faith, but they leave me and the rest of the world (for the most part they're not intentionally being malicious when something happens) out of it. There are still good people of faith and religion, why spit on them?
I'm half amused because while my family goes to church, my boyfriend's family goes to mass. We will not be paying attention or celebrating our President either. Does that mean he and I are as bad as the evil religious fanatics you speak of since we're apathetic to both cases, and we don't like Lady Gaga? There a middle ground in there?

[Gaybaby94]

Ok. I never meant for this thread to become a debate. I was simply ranting. So since it has become a debate, I would like for it to be closed.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

I hate it when someone assume that everyone who is christian is against gays. I hate it when someone assumes someone didn't vote for Obama because they don't support gay rights. Get your head out of your ass. It's nice that you've found a cause to support, but some people would rather vote for a president that holds most if their ideals even if they don't agree with one or two of their ideals. Don't get me wrong, I believe that gay rights are important, but what's the point when other issues theaten the future of the country? To you gay rights is the only thing that matters.

[StoppingTime]

Ok. I never meant for this thread to become a debate. I was simply ranting. So since it has become a debate, I would like for it to be closed.


Requested lock. :locked2: