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Gaybaby94
January 13th, 2013, 11:07 PM
I just seen on the news that thousands of protestors rallied by the Eiffel Tower against the legalization of same sex marriage.

Honestly this just makes me sick to my stomach. How can people have the mindset to deny the rights of a minority group. And to think Gay rights was actually making progress. This event alone just set it all back. It's sad that homophobia, ignorance, and bigotry is being encouraged.



By Tom Heneghan, Reuters
PARIS - Several hundred thousand people converged at the Eiffel Tower in Paris Sunday to protest President Francois Hollande's bill to legalize same-sex marriage by June.


Protesters waved pink and blue flags showing a father, mother and two children. Many had taken long train and bus rides from outside Paris.
Hollande has pledged to push through a same-sex marriage law with his Socialist party’s parliamentary majority, but his opponents have dented public support and forced deputies to put off a plan to allow lesbian couples access to artificial insemination.
Same-sex marriage is recognized in 11 countries including Belgium, Portugal, the Netherlands, Spain, Sweden, Norway and South Africa. In the U.S., it is legal in nine states and in Washington, D.C.
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Champ de Mars, the long park between the Eiffel Tower and the Ecole Militaire, was packed Sunday, with organizers claiming 800,000 protesters, but police more conservatively estimating 340,000 – a large turnout even in France, where protests are a way of life.
"Nobody expected this two or three months ago," said Frigide Barjot, a flamboyant comedian leading the demonstration. At the rally, she read aloud a letter to Hollande asking him to withdraw the bill and hold a public debate on the issue.
Strongly supported by the Catholic Church, opponents of same-sex marriage have mobilized practicing Catholics, members of the extreme far-right Front National party, some Muslims, evangelicals and even a few openly gay people.
They argue that same-sex marriage would cause psychological and social harm to children, which they believe should trump the desire for equal rights for gay adults.
Organizers insist they do not oppose gays and lesbians but rather support what they say are the rights of children to have a father and a mother. Slogans on the posters and banners read, "Marriagophile, not homophobe," "All born of a father and mother" and "Paternity, maternity, equality."
"The French are tolerant, but they are deeply attached to the family and the defense of children," said Daniel Liechti, vice-president of the National Council of French Evangelicals, which urged its members to join the march.
Their efforts appear to have had an impact. Surveys indicate that popular support for gay marriage in France has slipped about 10 points to less than 55 percent since opponents started speaking out. Fewer than half of those polled recently favored giving gay couples adoption rights.
Under this pressure, French legislators dropped a plan that would allow lesbian couples access to artificial insemination.
Hollande's office, recognizing the “substantial” turnout Sunday, said it will not be swayed and that it will continue to push for a law recognizing same-sex marriage.


http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/01/13/16493599-protesters-in-france-gay-marriage-would-hurt-children

PinkFloyd
January 13th, 2013, 11:27 PM
That's horrible, but also ironic. I mean... Paris is the city of LOVE! :(

Skyline
January 14th, 2013, 12:04 AM
Wow, thats like Russia being anti-vodka... you would never expect it... yes i am being very stereotypical... im sorry for that

Gandalf
January 14th, 2013, 12:48 AM
We should all move to the Netherlands....

Jokes aside, France is taking a more nationalistic (if that's the correct word) stance in terms of tradition, they are strenuously blocking anything that doesn't follow their idiology in general.

I just hope the EU intervenes, that has always been a strong point of it: human rights. Furthermore, with the Eurozone crisis and the continued doubt in some constituent country's I would guess that gay rights aren't, unfortunately high on the priority.
On the other hand, Britain's arguements lately over Gay marriage is at least keeping the subject in the forefront of the media and politicians.

I'm very dissapointed to hear this is happening in Paris, and as it has been pointed out, the gay community (sorry for generalisations) does "know how to protest in style"

Quick_Sylver
January 14th, 2013, 12:52 AM
Frankly I could see this actually being great for the gay community in Europe, or absolutely horrible.

Yes, this one even is pretty bad. But it's bringing it to people's attention. While yes, negative attention: They're the ones who're looking bad right now.

ShatteredWings
January 14th, 2013, 12:56 AM
Googling comes up with Paris Hilton making homophobic comments

Does anyone have a source?

FreeFall
January 14th, 2013, 01:03 AM
Wow, thats like Russia being anti-vodka... you would never expect it... yes i am being very stereotypical... im sorry for that
No, I had the same reaction as you did. I though, surely not the French! Wow, feeling like a bit of a bad person right now ._.


ShatteredWings
Here;
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-france-gaymarriagebre90b0il-20130112,0,5840781.story

ShatteredWings
January 14th, 2013, 01:05 AM
Here;
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/sns-rt-us-france-gaymarriagebre90b0il-20130112,0,5840781.story

okays :) Apparntly my googlefu sucks today(tonight? i'm tired...)

Φρανκομβριτ
January 16th, 2013, 01:55 AM
Not supporting gay marriage does not necessarily mean one is homophobic. I'm gay myself and I don't support gay marriage.

I bet if you went to some countries in Africa where you get killed for being gay, you may have considered a different thread title

TigerBoy
January 16th, 2013, 08:55 AM
What you have to remember is this is stirred up by large religious groups with agendas:

1) the Catholics, who are losing their grip on France after having historically close ties since Charlemagne, which the current president has already acted to weaken further.
2) American religious extremist groups such as OMM who have created deceitful websites (http://www.advocate.com/politics/marriage-equality/2013/01/14/busted-french-antigay-website-created-nom)rallying people for this and other protests.

Amusingly the Mayor of Paris, Mr Delanoe has issued the organisers of the march with a charge of €100,000 (£83,000) to cover costs of restoring the grass on the Champs-de-Mars, a large public green near the Eiffel Tower. (Source: the Local (http://www.thelocal.fr/page/view/anger-as-paris-mayor-bills-gay-marriage-rally#.UPbp_ieClqU).)

Guillermo
January 16th, 2013, 09:01 PM
I bet if you went to some countries in Africa where you get killed for being gay, you may have considered a different thread title

Don't forget Iran and Saudi Arabia. Or hell, even many cities in southern U.S.

The title of this thread is just so misleading...

Abyssal Echo
January 16th, 2013, 09:51 PM
that just blows me away I thought the French were more open minded than that. and to think Paris is supposed to be the city of love

Jess
January 16th, 2013, 10:26 PM
That is just horrible...but it's worse in countries where you can die just for being gay or lesbian :/