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Person_Of_Interest
January 5th, 2013, 12:57 PM
During Music Elements (the 'you have no instrumental talent' music class at my school), we have to pratice the notes every day on this site called musicracer.com and so when I was on it, I got really bored with the C clef, so I decided I'd mess up the visuals on their site and change the text, so I just hacked for almost the entire period (41) and I stopped their server and was controlling it remotely (with the f12 key and editing the HTML and the Script) and kids started complaining that the site wasn't working, and, though nobody told on me, I managed to quickly change all the things back and get their server started up again with a few extra lines of code at the end. Anyway, I was wondering if anybody here programs or has done a bit of hacking

I DO NOT SUPPORT HACKING FINANCIAL ACCOUNTS OR FINDING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. I just like making people go, "what the fuck?!"

Silicate Wielder
January 5th, 2013, 03:31 PM
I do programming, although I can't hack for the life of me, unless it happens to be an operating system called Ubuntu.

I used to try and hack clubpenguin when I was little but now I don't really hack websites, especially since you can get into trouble with the police for doing that.

I usually just hack my way onto Wi-Fi networks to use the internet. or I retrieve files from websites, other than that I don't really do anything with hacking.

ackmedsgirl666
January 5th, 2013, 03:33 PM
my boyfriend only hacks internet incryptions
and jailbreaking iphones and stuff. but nothing like this

Stronk Serb
January 5th, 2013, 05:31 PM
I know a bit of C++, mostly for math problems amd stuff like that.

Rayquaza
January 5th, 2013, 05:40 PM
I don't really believe you managed to hack your way into a website without having correct credentials.
I'm also strongly against script-kiddies, people (mainly young, male teenagers) that just use software to do the work from them made by an actual hacker.

Programming and hacking are not the same thing.

So anyway, I'm on my way to being a white-hat hacker. I'm not one yet, I need a lot of work. It's someone that performs penetrative tests on networks to expose potential vulnerabilities. It's ethical and very useful, so you can stop black-hat hackers (typical 'hackers' in our society).

And for programming, I've had to learn Assembly Language (in my case, the LMC) and a third generation high level language (Pascal / Delphi).

ethanf93
January 5th, 2013, 06:19 PM
During Music Elements (the 'you have no instrumental talent' music class at my school), we have to pratice the notes every day on this site called musicracer.com and so when I was on it, I got really bored with the C clef, so I decided I'd mess up the visuals on their site and change the text, so I just hacked for almost the entire period (41) and I stopped their server and was controlling it remotely (with the f12 key and editing the HTML and the Script) and kids started complaining that the site wasn't working, and, though nobody told on me, I managed to quickly change all the things back and get their server started up again with a few extra lines of code at the end. Anyway, I was wondering if anybody here programs or has done a bit of hacking

I DO NOT SUPPORT HACKING FINANCIAL ACCOUNTS OR FINDING CLASSIFIED INFORMATION. I just like making people go, "what the fuck?!"
Ok, so, no.

You're not hacking. You were not in control of their server. You were editing the copy of the HTML/JavaScript the server sent to your computer; this is what makes up a web page. But editing your copy does not edit the copy the server has.

The server not working for someone else was undoubtedly a coincidence, I'm sorry.

HunterSteele
January 5th, 2013, 07:19 PM
Ok, so, no.

You're not hacking. You were not in control of their server. You were editing the copy of the HTML/JavaScript the server sent to your computer; this is what makes up a web page. But editing your copy does not edit the copy the server has.

The server not working for someone else was undoubtedly a coincidence, I'm sorry.
This is what I was going to say.

plebble
January 5th, 2013, 07:36 PM
I'm currently doing an A-Level (Advanced Level) in Computing at my Sixth Form College, but I'm just a beginner and it's Visual Basic... I know a little HTML too

Person_Of_Interest
January 6th, 2013, 09:57 AM
I didn't save anything I changed on the site because I couldn't, I just added some onto the script of the site and opened manipulated the servers actions through that with the little program I added on.

Blueeyes
January 6th, 2013, 11:29 AM
I didn't save anything I changed on the site because I couldn't, I just added some onto the script of the site and opened manipulated the servers actions through that with the little program I added on.


It seems you just edited the source, easily done, which is just editing the text on the client side (your side).

Curious as to how and what you loaded onto their server, a backdoor?

TheAppleProsS
January 6th, 2013, 11:31 AM
i do programming for games lol

Person_Of_Interest
January 6th, 2013, 12:24 PM
Yeash I got in through a loophole in the horrible encrytion they had. Whoever did it for the sitr owners, they really didn't do a good job of it

Troy35216
January 6th, 2013, 12:41 PM
no hacking here unless you count changing my brother's Facebook status when he forgot to log out. lol

Blueeyes
January 6th, 2013, 01:01 PM
Yeash I got in through a loophole in the horrible encrytion they had. Whoever did it for the sitr owners, they really didn't do a good job of it

Just wondering how exactly you found this 'loophole'. Generally, if you were to put a backdoor on a website to access the admin panel again, you would of actually had to hack it... brute force, sql injection, etc.

It would have been difficult to find something in just the html code of a page. Unless, they had a hidden portal on that page.

TheMatrix
January 6th, 2013, 03:45 PM
"Hacking" and "Cracking" are two very distinct terms. The GNU can explain it pretty well (http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.en.html#Hacker):

A hacker is someone who enjoys playful cleverness (http://stallman.org/articles/on-hacking.html)—not necessarily with computers. The programmers in the old MIT free software community of the 60s and 70s referred to themselves as hackers. Around 1980, journalists who discovered the hacker community mistakenly took the term to mean “security breaker.”

Please don't spread this mistake. People who break security are “crackers.”

I've only cracked two poorly designed systems as a proof of concept. And it was ridiculously easy, too. Simple SQL injection in one case, and a textbook example of XSS on the other.
It was so easy that I felt kind of sad, though. I'm not evil, and of course I'll properly discard the stuff I found once I type up a long report with some tips on how to improve security and send it to the maintainers of the website.
Sure, that "ruins the fun", but I have a heart, and I don't want trouble.

IVIodern
January 6th, 2013, 10:14 PM
I have used a security flaw with windows server 2003 to get into the Black Ops 2 PC dedicated servers.
Some C++ hacks for MW2 and CoD 4
Using java flaws to fuck around with minecraft servers (fun times were had).

Thats about all.

Archimedes
January 7th, 2013, 02:36 AM
I hack only wifi networks XD and a little AVR microcontrollers programming

WaffleSingSong
January 7th, 2013, 03:31 AM
I know some basic C++ and Lua, but nothing advanced.

Hell, the only hacking I have done is Cheat Engine XD

ALL HAIL THE MIGHTY CHEAT ENGINE!!!

Castle of Glass
January 7th, 2013, 11:59 PM
I do a lot of hacking and a bit of minor cracking. I hack into games(not online games or anything, but free ones were the developers don't give a shit with what people do and with my friend's games) and do some IRL hacking(figure out ways to shop lift, how to smuggle stuff onto planes and across borders, stuff like that. but do i do it, no). My minor cracking was to test my old schools cyber security, like their website admin passwords and stuff, Private servers, and a couple other things. Just because I know how to do something, does not mean I will utilizes that skill unless I need to. Like there is a difference between knowing how to shoot a weapon and shooting a weapon.

I DO NOT ADVERTISE HACKING OR CRACKING. BOTH OF THOSE CAN YET YOU IN TROUBLE WITH THE LAW

Hypers
January 8th, 2013, 04:49 AM
I don't hack/crack, but I do programming as a hobby, like making games and making pointless programs that waste time.

Twilly F. Sniper
January 8th, 2013, 07:51 AM
My exboyfriend does, it's in his family. His uncle started the "laughing skull" thing.
He mostly does simpler hacks like replacing a web page with one that says something to the extent of "get out of here or I'll steal your computer"
All I know is simple coding.

HunterSteele
January 8th, 2013, 06:56 PM
Yeash I got in through a loophole in the horrible encrytion they had.
Encryption prevents eavesdropping. It doesn't prevent unauthorized access to a secure system and you don't get in through a "loophole" in encryption.

I just added some onto the script of the site and opened manipulated the servers actions through that with the little program I added on.
That doesn't even make sense. A script used to generate the dynamic contents of a web page doesn't manipulate the server's actions.

I didn't save anything I changed on the site because I couldn't
Either because you were only changing the front end of the script and thought you were affecting the server, or you're just full of it.

Blueeyes
January 9th, 2013, 10:48 AM
Encryption prevents eavesdropping. It doesn't prevent unauthorized access to a secure system and you don't get in through a "loophole" in encryption.


That doesn't even make sense. A script used to generate the dynamic contents of a web page doesn't manipulate the server's actions.


Either because you were only changing the front end of the script and thought you were affecting the server, or you're just full of it.

+1 on that.

They don't encrypt the resources/html code of a website. They would encrypt passwords usually, with an encryption method such as MD5 ... which is fairly easy to crack now.

If you edit the html code of the website using just your browser... you are just affecting the client's end (your end) not the server.

You wound need to actually 'hack it' using some sort of method (sql injection, XSS, brute force, etc)

Magus
January 9th, 2013, 01:01 PM
Hacking, in the sense of making your own tool, no. I'd really love to learn how to do it all. Man, if I had free time, I'd probably do this.

TheMatrix
January 9th, 2013, 09:53 PM
Hacking, in the sense of making your own tool, no. I'd really love to learn how to do it all. Man, if I had free time, I'd probably do this.

It can be as simple as finding the logarithm of two numbers(with a log in -20 < log < 20), like I did today:
[[email protected] ~]$ perl -wE'foreach(map{$_, ($_ * -1)} (1..20, 0)){ if( ($ARGV[0] ** $_) == $ARGV[1] ) { print "$_\n"; } }' 0.5 0.25

and replace the two numbers at the end with your own. Yes, this isn't the best way, but it's how I learned to do it today in maths class.

Magus
January 10th, 2013, 02:08 AM
It can be as simple as finding the logarithm of two numbers(with a log in -20 < log < 20), like I did today:
[[email protected] ~]$ perl -wE'foreach(map{$_, ($_ * -1)} (1..20, 0)){ if( ($ARGV[0] ** $_) == $ARGV[1] ) { print "$_\n"; } }' 0.5 0.25

and replace the two numbers at the end with your own. Yes, this isn't the best way, but it's how I learned to do it today in maths class.

Goddamnit. You are doing that, while I am still learning Bash commands.

TheMatrix
January 11th, 2013, 03:54 AM
Goddamnit. You are doing that, while I am still learning Bash commands.

Or better yet, as I thought of today(a big duh moment):
perl -E'print log($ARGV[1]) / log($ARGV[0]), "\n"' 0.5 0.25
This works for all valid logarithmic bases. If you didn't notice, it uses the change of base method.

Magus
January 12th, 2013, 12:16 PM
Or better yet, as I thought of today(a big duh moment):
perl -E'print log($ARGV[1]) / log($ARGV[0]), "\n"' 0.5 0.25
This works for all valid logarithmic bases. If you didn't notice, it uses the change of base method.

Why does Argv does? I see it everywhere... EVERYWHERE!

from sys import argv.

int main(int argc, char *argv)

Dafuq man. Dafuq. DAFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUQ. *Mind Blown*

TheMatrix
January 12th, 2013, 07:05 PM
Why does Argv does? I see it everywhere... EVERYWHERE!

from sys import argv.

int main(int argc, char *argv)

Dafuq man. Dafuq. DAFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUQ. *Mind Blown*

ARGument Value.
It's the command-line parametres.

Magus
January 13th, 2013, 12:50 AM
ARGument Value.
It's the command-line parametres.

Basically, if you have that in your code, and when you launch in the terminal, with added extra stuff, this thing will bring them up in teh code. Amirite?

Mirage
January 13th, 2013, 01:28 AM
This is what I was going to say.

As was I. You didn't hack anything, you wasted a whole period editing your machine's local copy of the site.

But yes, I do program to a certain extent.

TheMatrix
January 13th, 2013, 03:18 AM
Basically, if you have that in your code, and when you launch in the terminal, with added extra stuff, this thing will bring them up in teh code. Amirite?
Pretty much. argc is the number of arguments. argv is an array of char pointers. argv[0] contains the name that the program was invoked with.

joeyboy24
January 13th, 2013, 06:16 AM
i cant do hacking but my cousin knows some bits of hacking msn and facebook, i do some programming at school ussing scratch but thats about it

Silicate Wielder
January 17th, 2013, 06:05 PM
I don't hack/crack, but I do programming as a hobby, like making games and making pointless programs that waste time.

Same reason I program, to make pointless programs :P

Blueeyes
January 18th, 2013, 10:12 AM
Same reason I program, to make pointless programs :P

Me too. Even though I can code with various different languages (C++, Perl, Java, Python, etc) I still love going back to batch commands and make simple little batch files. Shit i do for kicks when im bored lol.

alexkun
January 19th, 2013, 01:53 AM
no.. not really.. i've never been good for programming... :)