Homophobics

[Mirage]

A particularly homophobic person at my school said this to me recently:

gays are just emotionally handicapped and afraid to have a relationship with the opposite sex

I do not agree with this quote, however I figured it would spark a pretty interesting debate. What do you all think?

[Jupiter]

homophobes are just emotionally handicapped and can't comprehend people of the same sex liking each other.


no but seriously, this guy/girl is a moron, and i'm not really sure if this person is a homophobe, as much as he is skeptical of the entire homosexual idea, which... is hard to comprehend that someone can't understand that human+human= happy?

[Jess]

Frankly, I think it's ridiculous. I agree with Eric.

[FreeFall]

Oh my god. A bi-sexual chick was pissed off at me once, because I wouldn't and can't reciprocate her affections and advances towards me. She said the exact same thing, that I was emotionally handicapped, straight people are too scared to be with the same sex. Is there some sort of store for people to pick up crap like that or is it an internet forum?

Anyways, I would've been a smart ass and I'd tell him go find a lesbian and help her overcome her terror of dating boys, real boys, because he's a real dick. Then I'd also say that gays aren't afraid of relationships with the opposite sex, why do you think most girls these decades want that "gay best friend" and guys want that "butch female friend" to help them get close to girls? Wonderful mentality, he'll get so very far in life if he keeps it up.

[Manjusri]

So then the inverse of the statement would be true as well? Straight people are afraid to have a relationship with the same sex. That doesn't make much sense. Although i do believe some homophobics are uncomfortable with their sexuality - which is why they choose to ridicule lgbt people. However i don't believe that it makes them 'emotionally handicapped'. Just ignorant.

[Taryn98]

Whoever said that is obviously ignorant. I'm sure they never met someone who is gay nor understand that they are the same as any straight person. Sexual preference has nothing to do with emotional capacity.

[Skyline]

I love people that are homophobic! They always give me a reason to laugh.

[TheWaterPrince]

I have no understanding of why someone would be homophobic. They're still people and you should judge them the same way you judge straight people or any other sexuality. The concept of homophobia just generally goes over my head.

[Lost in the Echo]

I think whoever said that is a fucking dumbass, and an immature piece of shit who needs to grow the fuck up.
Nobody has any control over their sexuality, whether someone is straight, gay, bi etc., you're born that way and you can't change that.
Homophobes are just ignorant pricks.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

I generally agree with conservative ideals, but this is one I can't even comprehend. The general reasoning is "I think that marriage should be between a man and a woman.", but that doesn't justify this. And even if you have that belief, fine, but don't try to force it on others via laws, etc.

[Cicero]

I don't think they are afraid of having a relationship with the opposite sex, I think it's cause they can't. They don't feel an attraction to them at all. Just how straight people cannot have a relationship with the same sex, gays can't have a relationship with the opposite sex. Well, technically they can, but there would be no attraction.

You should try turning the situation on him. Ask him why he couldn't have a relationship with the same sex, then when he says his answer. Say, we'll that's the reason why gays can't have a relationship with the opposite sex.

[TigerBoy]

Bigotry is fuelled by ignorance. The etymology of the word "prejudice" is literally to "pre judge" or judge before you've got the facts.

The facts are:

Handicap implies a mental disorder, and the psychiatric profession does not believe homosexuality is a mental disorder.
Science has also shown that sexuality is determined before birth, so not a result of an emotional condition such as fear.


All you can do is attempt to educate bigots by giving them facts.

Those who suggested turning the same argument back on them (Manjusri, Cicero) offer an excellent tactic for exposing bigots to themselves. In this case, the homophobe might still insist that this doesn't apply because (in their view) gays' fear comes from their mental disorder, and since they don't feel fear (but rather lack of interest or revulsion) they can't be ill. The issue thus remains pursuading them of the facts.

I'd also point out that many studies show homophobes have a high proportion of homsexuals hiding in their number. There are an awful lot of high profile faces who have been rabid anti-gay voices and been ultimately outed (google Ted Haggard, but there are dozens like him). If anyone has an emotional handicap it is the homophobe.

[Human]

homophobes are just emotionally handicapped and can't comprehend people of the same sex liking each other.


no but seriously, this guy/girl is a moron, and i'm not really sure if this person is a homophobe, as much as he is skeptical of the entire homosexual idea, which... is hard to comprehend that someone can't understand that human+human= happy?

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people are too close minded these days

[Gaybaby94]

I believe homophobes are just so insecure they take it out on people who are socially rejected. That is in some cases. It can be developed based on their environment. Of they are raised in an extremely conservative family, they will be taught that homosexuality is wrong and will proceed to say "You're going to hell!" or some other bullshit.

But at the end of the day, I believe in this saying which is in my sig:

"Religion is a choice. Homosexuality is not!"

[Guillermo]

I do not agree with this quote, however I figured it would spark a pretty interesting debate. What do you all think?

I think you've failed to spark an "interesting" debate. Most people on this site would agree that this statement is idiotic and ignorant. And if someone does post on here that they agree with this statement, then they would be bombarded with negative rep and comments responding about the facts of homosexuality.

I have no understanding of why someone would be homophobic.

It's very simple, actually. They were either raised in a fundamentalist religious household or they are insecure about themselves and feel they must be hostile toward or stay away from LGBT. And if you think about it, people are homophobic when they are afraid to be gay or don't want to accept that they are gay. It's just like a form of self-homophobia. Being afraid of something leads to hatred. This hatred is the source that causes people to harm other people - people that are considered "different" like LGBTs.

[Dunce]

I think a lot of people who have always been straight just don't understand how sexuality works. They never think about it. I had this experience too, I overheard a group of people in class one day talk about how gay people had something wrong with them. It pissed me off so much how matter of fact their hushed tones were. Then they proceeded to talk about how gay guys are cute and awesome because you can talk about boys with them, but how lesbians were "different to that" and fucked up.
Like, how could they not comprehend that gay and lesbian are the same thing? Do they not realize that those "cute gay guys" they know will never love a girl and will fall in love with another guy?
It was like subtle homophobia, they didn't even realize how they sounded.
I think homophobia among young people has a lot to do with ignorance than anything else. They don't understand but they think they do.

[jayyy-lmao]

I am not anti-gay, but I do find it a bit awkward to be around them. One of my friends is gat, but not a very close friend.

[Worthless]

People who think homosexuality is stupid don't understand that not everybody is the same. People like fucking other dudes. Some people like fucking both sexes. Does it even matter? Why is this even a point of debate in our society. Homophobics are fucking worthless.

[SaxyHaloBeast]

I get really upset when I read these types of forums. I see people calling others bigots, ignorant, close-minded, etc. But the truth is, the name-callers can be exactly what they are calling others. It's a paradox. You don't tolerate intolerance, which means you are intolerant of intolerance, which means you shouldn't be tolerating yourself not tolerating other's intolerance.

Now here is the tricky part. I'm about to say that I personally don't agree with homosexuality, and now that you've read this, you think I am ignorant and close-minded and hateful, but really, have I said anything of the sort? If you believe I am ignorant, close-minded, or bigoted because of me saying "I don't agree with homosexuality", then you yourselves are actually the ignorant, close-minded, and bigoted ones. Before calling someone else those names, you have to hear them out completely and consider everything they have to say. Don't disregard someone's opinion just because it doesn't match yours. Give everyone's opinion a chance.

I think the quote "gays are just emotionally handicapped and afraid to have a relationship with the opposite sex" isn't true. I don't know if the guy who said is just misinformed or really believes it so I won't call him any names. Gays have an attraction to their own sex, plain and simple. I personally am not OK with homosexual acts, but understand that others are. I just hope that all of the anti-homophobes will realize that not everyone is going to accept you and like you. If you keep on pushing them, things will only get worse. Always realize that to some, you might actually be shoving your beliefs down their throats. Think before you speak or else your cause will get nowhere and will only cause more resentment.

[Hawk1248]

That is fucking rediculuse we are the way we r because well we just have differnt intrist not because we can't date opposite sex... Tell u the truth I get alout of girls who like me tell me every day but I tell them and mist accept the way I am but for Ur friend I have to 110% disagree

[Emerald Dream]

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