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Professional Russian
January 3rd, 2013, 07:58 AM
So as the question says in the title.is hunting an educational reason not to go to school. I think it is because you learn the anatomy(I think that's the word I'm looking for) of what ever you are hunting. Do you guys think its an educational excuse not to go to school?
Jimmy Page
January 3rd, 2013, 08:07 AM
Tbh no ,in norway no excuse is valid,you have to apply for the day off ,and it will be saved in your records which can make job and college applying hard
I mean ok its educational,but few jobs require you to know the anatomy of a deer and how to butcher it properly.
ReginaGeorge
January 3rd, 2013, 08:13 AM
No, I don't think so. You can shoot a deer, then open it up and look at all the squishy stuff inside, but how will you know what is what, what it does unless you are taught it first, in school? You need to know what is what before it's educational, and then it's not really educational because you already understand.
TigerBoy
January 3rd, 2013, 08:18 AM
Even if your career is going to be hunting in some way, you are still going to need basics of maths and other literacy skills to make a go of it as a business.
I think everyone needs a basic education, not only for their sakes but so that society has people who are capable of making informed decisions when it comes to exercising their democratic rights, and aren't a liability to society by doing stupid things.
Practical experience is a great way of learning anatomy but only if you have some academic knowledge to explain what all the bits are. If anatomy is something that interests you then you'd have to turn to academic study.
So unless you intend to live in isolation of the rest of society, I don't think this will take you very far in life without school. I do think it can teach you a lot, having said that.
workingatperfect
January 3rd, 2013, 08:40 AM
No... Just..... What? No! When you kill a deer, do you split it open and say "Ok, there's the heart, the lungs, the blah blah blah" and examine it as intricately as the frogs you dissect? I'm gonna guess no. That's like taking the day off to sit home and read a book, except that's probably more educational.
Professional Russian
January 3rd, 2013, 10:01 AM
OK. Let me say this agaun . Is 3 days out of the year OK to the make off to go hunting?
TigerBoy
January 3rd, 2013, 10:12 AM
OK. Let me say this agaun . Is 3 days out of the year OK to the make off to go hunting?
Ohhh right. So 3 days off school to go hunting? To be honest, I'd find that a really hard argument to accept if I was your principal. By that logic I could ask for three days to play Assassin's creed so I can learn about history.
I think getting out and learning about nature through hunting can be good, but personally I have a problem with hunting for sport rather than food so if I was the boss of you, I would only approve if you were learning to respect nature, eating what you killed (with minimum suffering to the animal) and stuff like that.
CharlieFinley
January 3rd, 2013, 11:16 AM
OK. Let me say this agaun . Is 3 days out of the year OK to the make off to go hunting?
Is it "okay"? Not really. It may not be a huge deal with your school, but it's ridiculous to claim you're learning about biology or the environment.
Professional Russian
January 3rd, 2013, 12:21 PM
Ohhh right. So 3 days off school to go hunting? To be honest, I'd find that a really hard argument to accept if I was your principal. By that logic I could ask for three days to play Assassin's creed so I can learn about history.
I think getting out and learning about nature through hunting can be good, but personally I have a problem with hunting for sport rather than food so if I was the boss of you, I would only approve if you were learning to respect nature, eating what you killed (with minimum suffering to the animal) and stuff like that.
I do hunt for food.....
workingatperfect
January 3rd, 2013, 12:24 PM
I do hunt for food.....
In my opinion, it can be sport even if you eat what you kill. If you have to hunt in order to eat, then, yeah, but otherwise it's only for sport and the meat is a benefit. I'm going to assume your parent's by you food and don't make you go kill you own food, so.....
Professional Russian
January 3rd, 2013, 12:34 PM
Is it "okay"? Not really. It may not be a huge deal with your school, but it's ridiculous to claim you're learning about biology or the environment.
Where I live hunting is a big deal. But not bear hunting.
Human
January 3rd, 2013, 12:43 PM
No I think you should actually have to go to school, it's like replacing school with one sport
CharlieFinley
January 3rd, 2013, 02:22 PM
Where I live hunting is a big deal. But not bear hunting.
That's super. Hunting is pretty cool. Do it on your own time, not the school's. If you're going to skip school to pursue a hobby, at least be honest about it.
Teen Titan
January 3rd, 2013, 02:39 PM
No, becuase you dont learn all the other things you need
Professional Russian
January 3rd, 2013, 02:58 PM
That's super. Hunting is pretty cool. Do it on your own time, not the school's. If you're going to skip school to pursue a hobby, at least be honest about it.
your not understanding. i probably should have clarified is a long time ago. the season is only 3 days long and those 3 days are on school days...sadly
workingatperfect
January 3rd, 2013, 03:18 PM
your not understanding. i probably should have clarified is a long time ago. the season is only 3 days long and those 3 days are on school days...sadly
What season is only 3 days? And still, no you should not get time off. You should go after school and have your parents call you in sick. The school giving you time off to hunt is ridiculous, no matter how "important" hunting is where you live. No school would ever do that. Hopefully anyway.
Professional Russian
January 3rd, 2013, 03:19 PM
What season is only 3 days? And still, no you should not get time off. You should go after school and have your parents call you in sick. The school giving you time off to hunt is ridiculous, no matter how "important" hunting is where you live. No school would ever do that. Hopefully anyway.
Bear season is only 3 days long. and when your 4 hours and 150 miles away you aint going after school. there arent bear around where i live to populated we go up to the mountains every year we get the first day of deer season off and i usually take a second day off
workingatperfect
January 3rd, 2013, 03:27 PM
You get the first day of dear season off? As in school is closed? Or they just don't count it as an unexcused absence? Not counting it as an absence I can see, my school is a little lenient with that as well. But I don't see why you need the day off, just take a day off anyway. Or, if your school is like mine, apply for vacation time. My old school gave us 5 days, but we had to have a valid reason for going during school or it would be unexcused.
PrimedPenguin
January 3rd, 2013, 04:37 PM
No hunting is more of a recreational sport than a learning experience. You can cut open a deer but do you know what all of the squishy stuff is.. Were I live kids miss school all the time to no hunting and the only thing I've ever heard them talk about is kinds of guns and were they go hunting. Not once have I ever heard them talk about the anatomy of any animal they have killed or the behavioral patterns of animals. Also on top of the lack of learning very few jobs require you to know the parts of game animals.
Sugaree
January 3rd, 2013, 04:39 PM
So as the question says in the title.is hunting an educational reason not to go to school. I think it is because you learn the anatomy(I think that's the word I'm looking for) of what ever you are hunting. Do you guys think its an educational excuse not to go to school?
Unless you're taking an animal biology course to learn the anatomy of a woodland creature, no. It's not valid at all. That's like asking to stay home to watch Discovery channel for educational purposes.
CharlieFinley
January 3rd, 2013, 05:10 PM
your not understanding. i probably should have clarified is a long time ago. the season is only 3 days long and those 3 days are on school days...sadly
Oh. Wow. What season?
Anyway, in that case, I'd say you should go for it for at least one or two days. If that's the only time you can do it, call it a cultural activity or part of your heritage or something.
Professional Russian
January 3rd, 2013, 05:13 PM
Oh. Wow. What season?
Anyway, in that case, I'd say you should go for it for at least one or two days. If that's the only time you can do it, call it a cultural activity or part of your heritage or something.
Pennsylvania Black Bear Season. 3 days long. wed go up for 5 but i didnt include the weekend before the season starts
FreeFall
January 3rd, 2013, 05:15 PM
Maybe not educational but it can be an excuse. In America we still have people living off of the land, supporting their lives and family through hunting, need the meat and furs. If they kids have to pitch in to get by, then that's that. Sad fact, but it's true. So by preventing them from hunting, we could be stunting their support/way to live.
I'd call it more of a personal excuse, life dependent or something.
CharlieFinley
January 3rd, 2013, 05:17 PM
Maybe not educational but it can be an excuse. In America we still have people living off of the land, supporting their lives and family through hunting, need the meat and furs. If they kids have to pitch in to get by, then that's that. Sad fact, but it's true. So by preventing them from hunting, we could be stunting their support/way to live.
I'd call it more of a personal excuse, life dependent or something.
In this case, it's really more of a cultural activity, but that can be a sufficient excuse if you spin it right. Even if you don't, just make sure to turn in your stuff in advance.
ManyPearTree
January 3rd, 2013, 06:05 PM
I don't think so. How could the school track learning development or even attendance?
huginnmuninn
January 3rd, 2013, 06:52 PM
i know when i hunt an animal and butcher it i learn a great deal about nature and anatomy. If you are living in the USA you probably aren't going to learn that stuff in school at least not public schools. I'm not saying that you won't learn about anatomy and nature but it won't be as informational or as in depth as an actual look at the insides of a large mammal. 3 days won't put you behind that much in the American school system so it probably isn't that much of a big deal as long as you don't take an extreme excess of days off it probably won't matter in the long run.
Professional Russian
January 3rd, 2013, 06:56 PM
i know when i hunt an animal and butcher it i learn a great deal about nature and anatomy. If you are living in the USA you probably aren't going to learn that stuff in school at least not public schools. I'm not saying that you won't learn about anatomy and nature but it won't be as informational or as in depth as an actual look at the insides of a large mammal. 3 days won't put you behind that much in the American school system so it probably isn't that much of a big deal as long as you don't take an extreme excess of days off it probably won't matter in the long run.
i usually only miss 1-2 days. one is take your kid to work day. and the second is either a sick day or the second day of dear season since we havve the first off
MisterSix
January 3rd, 2013, 08:19 PM
Why not go during the weekend?
Professional Russian
January 3rd, 2013, 08:44 PM
Why not go during the weekend?
Its a 3 day season. Monday Tuesday and Wednesday
Guillermo
January 3rd, 2013, 09:54 PM
I don't think so. How could the school track learning development or even attendance?
I know right? I mean, it's not like schools in the U.S. take attendance everyday and give students report cards or anything.
You're excuse is perfectly legitimate, PR!
(I think that's the word I'm looking for)
I find this to be really funny. Well, all I'm going to say is this: usually, I take 2 or 3 days out of every school year to take 'mental health days' to escape from life in general. Maybe you could just call it that or something. I'd also like to know whether your guardians approve of this or not? I mean, if they do and you feel like you really have to go on this trip, then why the hell not? Still not saying it's a legitimate excuse to miss school but mental health days really aren't either.
MisterSix
January 3rd, 2013, 11:05 PM
Its a 3 day season. Monday Tuesday and Wednesday
Wow, seasons in america are really short. In New Zealand, we would call that an event and we would be allowed to take time off school to participate in most events.
Professional Russian
January 4th, 2013, 06:22 AM
Wow, seasons in america are really short. In New Zealand, we would call that an event and we would be allowed to take time off school to participate in most events.
That's the only season like that. Our bear population isn't very high.
Korashk
January 4th, 2013, 11:49 PM
Ohhh right. So 3 days off school to go hunting? To be honest, I'd find that a really hard argument to accept if I was your principal. By that logic I could ask for three days to play Assassin's creed so I can learn about history.
You'd actually be surprised. I got through the first half of my college level arts and culture class because of Assassin's Creed.
TheBigUnit
January 5th, 2013, 12:38 AM
So as the question says in the title.is hunting an educational reason not to go to school. I think it is because you learn the anatomy(I think that's the word I'm looking for) of what ever you are hunting. Do you guys think its an educational excuse not to go to school?
Nope not at all, we aren't hunter gatherers anymore
Skyline
January 5th, 2013, 12:41 AM
You can always go after school... I dont think you should skip school though...
Aajj333
January 5th, 2013, 12:44 AM
Saying it teaches you anatomy is like someone asking to have class outside so we "learn about nature" it really doesn't count. I think that 50 years ago that would be expectable but now when less and less people rely on it for food and more for fun I think it should be saved for the weekend
TigerBoy
January 5th, 2013, 04:46 AM
You'd actually be surprised. I got through the first half of my college level arts and culture class because of Assassin's Creed.
Don't get me wrong, I love Assassin's creed and I've used it as an example elsewhere to make the same point you are.
Potentially I think hunting could be educational, which was why I was comparing them.
The way I see it such activities:
can inspire a deep and lasting interest (in nature, in history)
can teach useful knowledge / skills
take a very long time to deliver their benefit
don't offer a formal curriculum and means to test against that curriculum
exposure doesn't guarantee you pick up the available knowledge / skills
Professional Russian
January 19th, 2013, 02:18 PM
You can always go after school... I dont think you should skip school though...
I dont think you read above. when your 4 hours and 150 miles away there is no "after school" hunting there
green
February 18th, 2013, 01:15 AM
If your bear population isn't very high, don't hunt bears. People who I know hunt and eat their kill have told me that bear meat is disgusting anyway, so I don't see how your hunting bears for food.
ImCoolBeans
February 18th, 2013, 01:20 AM
That's basically like saying that watching porn is an educational reason to not go to school, since you're "learning about anatomy".
Mirage
February 18th, 2013, 01:51 AM
That's basically like saying that watching porn is an educational reason to not go to school, since you're "learning about anatomy".
Oh, it's not? :P
But I agree with everyone else. You shouldn't miss school for hunting season, you need school to learn very important things. Do you want any type of job later on in life? Not one job exists where no form of schooling is necessary.
Coolboi
February 18th, 2013, 01:58 AM
I miss school every year for opening day of whitetail deer in October . Hey dad takes us to so but my grades are perfict also .and it's 3 to 5 days off it's a really big hunt here in Michigan . We also eat the meat from the deer or we would not kill it our area is over populated by deer so the hunt is huge very big thing . as far as missing school I think as long as your grades are good have fun on your hunt it is a learning experience for sure . sight it in an hold your breath the adreline is burning then shoot bang it's dead heart shot wow got excited just telling ya bout it .
Twilly F. Sniper
February 18th, 2013, 08:09 AM
Don't miss valuable knowledge... for valuable knowledge?
Maybe a day or two is fine, but not more. Education is more important than practicing the survivalists art. Because its a certainty you need it.
Azunite
February 18th, 2013, 11:36 AM
I will never understand your fetish about killing animals.
Cicero
February 18th, 2013, 05:04 PM
Oh, it's not? :P
But I agree with everyone else. You shouldn't miss school for hunting season, you need school to learn very important things. Do you want any type of job later on in life? Not one job exists where no form of schooling is necessary.
Delivery Driver
Life Gaurd
Janitor
House keeper
Lawn keeper
Gardener
Sewing Machine Operator
Sailors
Taxi Drivers
But non the less, going to school is more important than hunting for fun. If you hunt to put food on the table, then hunting is more important than school.
I will never understand your fetish about killing animals.
It's a hobby or fun activity. Of course they are going to talk about their hobbies a lot, if you go in the tech junkie section and say "I will never understand your fetish for computers" they will probably respond by saying its not a fetish but rather a hobby. He just has a different hobby then you, nothing wrong with that. I'd love to go hunting, I find great interest in it. A friend of mine and I were wanting to hunt when we got older.
Sir Suomi
February 18th, 2013, 09:24 PM
"Have I ever told you the definition of insanity? It's doing the same thing, over and over again, and expecting a different outcome."
As this quote from my main man Vaas once said, you need to get out of the daily routine every once and awhile.Sometimes you can learn more from just being outside than being stuck inside a classroom all day. I even seem to be able to think more clearly sitting in a tree stand. Now, is it good to skip school constantly for hunting? No. But once or twice is not too bad, especially when presented an amazing hunting trip. Just make sure to make up on what you missed when you get back ;)
Sugaree
February 18th, 2013, 10:04 PM
"Have I ever told you the definition of insanity? It's doing the same thing, over and over again, and expecting a different outcome."
As this quote from my main man Vaas once said
*Albert Einstein
FTFY
Sir Suomi
February 18th, 2013, 10:11 PM
*Albert Einstein
FTFY
Damn.
WalkingOnDisaster
February 20th, 2013, 12:25 PM
No.
Life isn't hunting. Even if you went into business for this field, you'd still need at least a basic education.
Sir Suomi
February 22nd, 2013, 10:29 PM
No.
Life isn't hunting. Even if you went into business for this field, you'd still need at least a basic education.
It could become life if, oh I don't know, some jack wagon decides to start a World War III on us. ;)
But what I'm trying to say is that although they may never happen, I'd prefer it if majority of the people out there knew how to fend for themselves if it ever came down to what we now know as the modern world would collapse. All the information in the world can't feed your belly.
WalkingOnDisaster
February 22nd, 2013, 11:22 PM
It could become life if, oh I don't know, some jack wagon decides to start a World War III on us. ;)
But what I'm trying to say is that although they may never happen, I'd prefer it if majority of the people out there knew how to fend for themselves if it ever came down to what we now know as the modern world would collapse. All the information in the world can't feed your belly.
I guess you're right. But as of this moment our education, as teenagers,should be at least near top priority. Yeah, though. You're right. If some form of war comes up, perhaps we will need to defend ourselves. But that's for our own time, not the time we spend in school.
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