alcohol Abuse

[Mathew404]

Okay, well im 13, and my dad owns this bar, So for me, it has always been easy for me to get a hold of alcohol. So, me and my friend were talking about drinking. We both have took like sips of alcohol but not like drinks. So we decided for me to get some alcohol (vodka) from my dads bar, (i got the vodka from our bar in the basement, but my dad own like a public bar too). So anyways, i got the vodka, and i brought it to school in my back pack. Then i got a ride from her and we went to her house. Well, we took shooters, and both took 13 shots each, since were 13. Well we both got realy realy drunk. In which i ended up fallin down her stairs. We also went outside where there are kids playing (our age) and they knew that we were wasted. The next day, all the kids we making fun of us. Now, i am always wanting to get drunk again, but i know its not fun. I got hurt, and puked. There is just a part of me that wants me to get drunk


sorry this is long.

[R_master]

first off, bringing alcohol to school is a horrible idea, and you can get in a lot of shit with the administration for it.

and second, you need to use self-restraint. drinking really isn't that addicting, especially since this was your first time. I would recommend waiting a few more years because at your age drinking and drugs can become a slippery slope.

[thesonicguy]

I never drank alcohol, but am NOT interested
No, i have not drank alcohol

Why do we need, No, i have not drank alcohol?

[The Resurrected One]

I never drank alcohol, but am NOT interested
No, i have not drank alcohol

Why do we need, No, i have not drank alcohol?


We got it the first time.

[serial-thrilla]

I'll drink once or twice a week at parties only. Im strictly a social drinker.

[byee]

Okay, well im 13, and my dad owns this bar, So for me, it has always been easy for me to get a hold of alcohol. So, me and my friend were talking about drinking. We both have took like sips of alcohol but not like drinks. So we decided for me to get some alcohol (vodka) from my dads bar, (i got the vodka from our bar in the basement, but my dad own like a public bar too). So anyways, i got the vodka, and i brought it to school in my back pack. Then i got a ride from her and we went to her house. Well, we took shooters, and both took 13 shots each, since were 13. Well we both got realy realy drunk. In which i ended up fallin down her stairs. We also went outside where there are kids playing (our age) and they knew that we were wasted. The next day, all the kids we making fun of us. Now, i am always wanting to get drunk again, but i know its not fun. I got hurt, and puked. There is just a part of me that wants me to get drunk


sorry this is long.

Let me see if I got this. You took some vodka, got drunk, fell down the stairs, got hurt, puked, and humiliated, said in your own words that 'it was not fun'. And there's a part of you that wants to get drunk again?! What part is that?

You correctly recognize that what you did wasn't good, fun, or particularly wise. Now, you need to connect the dots here and recognize that sometimes your judgement isn't as good as it should be. That's the part that wants to do this again. Acknowledging that your judgement fails you means that you cannot just go with your part time urges, regardles of how strong they might be. You have to think it through, remember what happened the last time you did this, and how you felt. And not do it again.

[Hyper]

Hmm so you got drunk with the intention of purely getting drunk

That clearly shows you should stay away from alcohol

[Break the Cage]

I drink anything from 1-4 times a week usually, spirits/beer/cider/wine anything really..
I enjoy getting drunk but only with others who are drinking.

[free2bme]

in moderation drinking ca be fun and yes i admit ive gotten wasted to the point of puking and try no to do that but unforunetly drinking has become a fad amung many younger teenagrs but my parents let me drink a little somtimes so that it will not be such an amazing thing when i become "of age" but i definetly agre w/ ^ dont just drink for the soul purpose of gettin drunk

[serial-thrilla]

i really dont see the point of drinking if you arent going to get drunk. a few beers or a few shots really doesent do much for me.

[byee]

i really dont see the point of drinking if you arent going to get drunk. a few beers or a few shots really doesent do much for me.


And here we have confirmation that you're a problem drinker. (P.S. I'm NOT being provocative here, either).

[Whisper]

I don't have a drinking problem. I drink. I get drunk. I fall down. No problem.

remember kiddies "Candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker!" ~ willy wonka

[serial-thrilla]

And here we have confirmation that you're a problem drinker. (P.S. I'm NOT being provocative here, either). pfft dont preach to me child. I drink socially with friends maybe 4 times a month and have a damn good time doing it. I dont bother drinking a beer or two or a shot or two because i dont enjoy that. I enjoy getting drunk because it is fun.

[byee]

pfft dont preach to me child. I drink socially with friends maybe 4 times a month and have a damn good time doing it. I dont bother drinking a beer or two or a shot or two because i dont enjoy that. I enjoy getting drunk because it is fun.


Now that i have your attention, ask yourself how those alcoholics you might know became alcoholics in the first place. And I'm not talking about the skid row bums, they're more mentally ill than alcoholic.

It's hard to imagine that the habits you develop now will affect you as an adult. it's hard to imagine yourself as a grown up. But, seriously, ask yourself how those boozers you might know started. Then look at yourself.

i really dont see the point of drinking if you arent going to get drunk. a few beers or a few shots really doesent do much for me.


Golly, the opportunity to repeat myself!

Ask yourself what makes an adult an alcoholic. Then, close your eyes, and picture yourself. Do this three times and see if you like the picture.

[Serenity]

Sam, don't double post- you know better than that.

[serial-thrilla]

Now that i have your attention, ask yourself how those alcoholics you might know became alcoholics in the first place. And I'm not talking about the skid row bums, they're more mentally ill than alcoholic.

It's hard to imagine that the habits you develop now will affect you as an adult. it's hard to imagine yourself as a grown up. But, seriously, ask yourself how those boozers you might know started. Then look at yourself.




Golly, the opportunity to repeat myself!

Ask yourself what makes an adult an alcoholic. Then, close your eyes, and picture yourself. Do this three times and see if you like the picture. Theres a huge difference between being an alcoholic and being someone who likes to go out and drink on occasion. An alcoholic is addicted to alcohol. I am not addicted to alcohol in the slightest, nor do i think ill ever be. For me to get addicted to something it has to be something i enjoy doing by myself. For me alcohol is only fun with a large group of people.

[byee]

Sam, don't double post- you know better than that.


Thanks for acknowledging my abilities, Val (that's why i want to marry you!). I didn't realize I was DPing, I musta hit the button twice accidentally. Sorry.

[byee]

Theres a huge difference between being an alcoholic and being someone who likes to go out and drink on occasion. An alcoholic is addicted to alcohol. I am not addicted to alcohol in the slightest, nor do i think ill ever be. For me to get addicted to something it has to be something i enjoy doing by myself. For me alcohol is only fun with a large group of people.


I think you're justifying your drinking! Going out to get drunk, specifically for that purpose, as you state, is THE def of alcoholic drinking. The physical tolerance is only one part of the diagnosis, and usually cones later. You've got the behavioral diagnosis already.

Again, go find an alcoholic and ask them how they started.

[Maverick]

What you did now is double post. Posting twice in the same row is considered spam. Edit your post if you want to add more information.

[serial-thrilla]

I think you're justifying your drinking! Going out to get drunk, specifically for that purpose, as you state, is THE def of alcoholic drinking. The physical tolerance is only one part of the diagnosis, and usually cones later. You've got the behavioral diagnosis already.

Again, go find an alcoholic and ask them how they started. In order to get a physical dependance to alcohol you have to be drinking alot and very often for a long time. Going out and getting drunk socially a couple times a month is not going to do that. Sure there are people who just drink socially when there a kid and later turn into alcoholics, but to say that will happen, or even to say that will probably happen, is just wrong. I like my life too much to ruin it with alcohol, i play sports, i excerisise, i go to school, i work, i really dont have much time to be drinking very often, so when i do go out and drink i like to drink alot and have a good time.

[R_master]

Sam you clearly like to play psychotherapist, but you have no idea what your talking about. serial-thrilla drinks the same way just about every other teen in the world does. drinking without getting drunk is a pointless and a waste of time + money. there is a huge huuuge difference between occasional social drinking and dependence


and to actually contribute to this thread, i surprisingly drink maybe twice a month haha.

[Maverick]

drinking without getting drunk is a pointless and a waste of time + money.
I would have to disagree with you here. For me, and others I'm sure, it's fine to enjoy a drink or two just because you enjoy the drink, without having to get drunk. If I took your post too literally then I apologize. :P

[byee]

Sam you clearly like to play psychotherapist, but you have no idea what your talking about. serial-thrilla drinks the same way just about every other teen in the world does. drinking without getting drunk is a pointless and a waste of time + money. there is a huge huuuge difference between occasional social drinking and dependence

Thanks for the compliment, but I'm really not 'playing' anything. I think you might recognize that I think differently than you, which is accurate, I like to think it comes from some awareness, of things other than pure urges.
Your saying 'every teen does it' is just a justification for what you're doing, which is really 'pre alcoholic' drinking. Again, go ask someone you know with a drinking problem how they started, and compare what they say to your own behavior. Go do this, instead of reassuring yourself that you're drinking 'like everyone else'. Dependence comes later, if you're drinking now to get drunk, then you're halfway there, as you have the behavioral dependence.



and to actually contribute to this thread, i surprisingly drink maybe twice a month haha.


'Getting drunk maybe twice a month' is a pattern that you might want to take a look at, rather than laugh at and casually dismiss.



I would have to disagree with you here. For me, and others I'm sure, it's fine to enjoy a drink or two just because you enjoy the drink, without having to get drunk. If I took your post too literally then I apologize. :P


I don't think you took his post too literally, Anthony. I think he doesn't recognize the potential consequences of his current drinking behavior. Like you, i enjoy a glass or 2 of wine with dinner, maybe a beer. But, standing around and nailing a six pack doesn't sound like much fun to me.

[byee]

In order to get a physical dependance to alcohol you have to be drinking alot and very often for a long time. Going out and getting drunk socially a couple times a month is not going to do that. Sure there are people who just drink socially when there a kid and later turn into alcoholics, but to say that will happen, or even to say that will probably happen, is just wrong. I like my life too much to ruin it with alcohol, i play sports, i excerisise, i go to school, i work, i really dont have much time to be drinking very often, so when i do go out and drink i like to drink alot and have a good time.

Where did you hear this? That you can go out a couple times a month and get drunk and not be either dependent or alcoholic? Ever hear of binge drinkers?

Again, you can do as you see fit, but don't kid yourself. You're justifying your behavior by minimizing it. I think they call that denial, a prime symptom of boozers. Serial, go find a problem drinker (is there one in your family?), ask them how they started. Instead of trying to convince me (and yourself) that your behavior is harmless, talk to someone who's been down this road before.

[R_master]

I would have to disagree with you here. For me, and others I'm sure, it's fine to enjoy a drink or two just because you enjoy the drink, without having to get drunk. If I took your post too literally then I apologize. :P


nah, i was kind of going on a rant. drinking without getting drunk is fine, i do it all the time when i bbq. (oh no another pattern!)

i just find with the horrible price over here, drinking for enjoyment doesn't usually fit my budget lol.

nothing better then a beer w/ some red meat.

[serial-thrilla]

'Getting drunk maybe twice a month' is a pattern that you might want to take a look at, rather than laugh at and casually dismiss.






I don't think you took his post too literally, Anthony. I think he doesn't recognize the potential consequences of his current drinking behavior. Like you, i enjoy a glass or 2 of wine with dinner, maybe a beer. But, standing around and nailing a six pack doesn't sound like much fun to me. Well getting drunk is fun for lots of people who arent alcoholics, im not trying to make you agree with me, but honestly if you've never really been drunk then you dont really know what its like. The reason people get drunk is because its enjoyable, disagree if you want, but its true. If it wasent fun noone would do it. Im not saying that getting drunk is in anyway good for you, but noone always does whats best for their body. Getting drunk occasionally isent really any worse then eating fast food occasionally. Life is short, i say if you enjoy doing it and it isent really effecting your everyday life then why not do it?

[Aηdy]

Sam you've been warned at least twice not to double post, so you've earnt yourself an infraction.

[Maverick]

I don't think you took his post too literally, Anthony. I think he doesn't recognize the potential consequences of his current drinking behavior. Like you, i enjoy a glass or 2 of wine with dinner, maybe a beer. But, standing around and nailing a six pack doesn't sound like much fun to me.
You know I was asking Ari (R_master). He's a friend of mine on here. I really wasn't looking for your interpretation. It's best to let people speak for themselves not put words in their mouth.

[Sugaree]

Well I have never drank alcohol but AM interested in trying it but not until I'm legal age.

[RaisingSand]

Heh, alcohol and I have a bit of a negative track record as I tend to use it to try and calm myself down. :/

[Gumleaf]

i don't drink and don't intend to much.

[RaisingSand]

Good on you. :) :hug:

[Hyper]

SAM.. Partially what you're saying could be kind of true if serial was younger.. As old as me for an example.. Because most people who start at my age or younger do something like serial, except well most of them just want to brag they got drunk.. So for half a year or a year.. They are playing around with small amounts, most of them, and bragging how they got drunk on the weekend..

At some point that changes and the weekend part goes to twice a week and so on..

But drinking 4 times a month or so, doesn't qualify someone as an alcoholic, and don't try to give me the shit that you gave to serial: my fathers an alcoholic, my neighbours an alcoholic I get along with him (his only eighteen), a good friend of mine is pretty much an alcohol, the point is I know alot of them alot more than you problably..

[Whisper]

my mums one
that doesn't mean if i get drunk once er twice a month I'm suddenly one to

[zacharooo]

i am your age now and i tried one of my moms wine coolers and i dod get drunk cuz i had a case so yea it sucks to be drunk i feel for you and i also havethe intention of gettin a nother wine cooler but i dont wanna another one so yeah im fightin right now to stay away from the coolers so just stay away from the bar :)

[Teenagequeen94]

dude if i were u id stop right there
im your age
i started drinking when i was 11
now im 13
and im always drunk
i base my life on things other people say i did because i cant remember any of it.
right now my eyes burn from the alcohol ive has this morning
it causes u to gain weight
and it kills ur liver
trust me just stop
if u got anymore questions just ask me

[Nihilus]

Ouch!!! Hopefully you now know not to drink.

[iJack]

I dont have much, i any experience with alcohol, but your 13 and i think you shouldn't drink much, sips every know and then are ok, but thats it