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Lyra Heartstrings
December 28th, 2012, 06:54 PM
MOSCOW -- President Vladimir Putin on Friday signed a law banning Americans from adopting Russian children, abruptly terminating the prospects for more than 50 youngsters preparing to join new families and sparking critics to liken him to King Herod.

The move is part of a harsh response to a U.S. law targeting Russians deemed to be human rights violators. Although some top Russian officials including the foreign minister openly opposed the bill, Putin signed it less than 24 hours after receiving it from Parliament, where it passed both houses overwhelmingly.

The law also calls for the closure of non-governmental organizations receiving American funding if their activities are classified as political – a broad definition many fear could be used to close any NGO that offends the Kremlin.

The law takes effect Jan. 1, the Kremlin said. Children's rights ombudsman Pavel Astakhov said 52 children who were in the pipeline for U.S. adoption would remain in Russia.

The ban is in response to a measure signed into law by President Barack Obama this month that calls for sanctions against Russians assessed to be human rights violators.

That stems from the case of Sergei Magnitsky, a Russian lawyer who was arrested after accusing officials of a $230 million tax fraud. He was repeatedly denied medical treatment and died in jail in 2009. Russian rights groups claimed he was severely beaten.

A prison doctor who was the only official charged in the case was acquitted by a Moscow court on Friday. Although there was no demonstrable connection to Putin's signing the law a few hours later, the timing underlines what critics say is Russia's refusal to responsibly pursue the case.

The adoption ban has angered both Americans and Russians who argue it victimizes children to make a political point, cutting off a route out of frequently dismal orphanages for thousands.

"The king is Herod," popular writer Oleg Shargunov said on his Twitter account, referring to the Roman-appointed king of Judea at the time of Jesus Christ's birth, who the Bible says ordered the massacre of Jewish children to avoid being supplanted by a prophesied newborn king of the Jews.

A painting depicting the massacre and captioned "an appropriate response to the Magnitsky act" spread widely on the Internet. The phrase echoed Putin's characterization of the ban while it was under consideration.

U.S. State Department spokesman Patrick Ventrell expressed regret over Putin's signing the law and urged Russia to "allow those children who have already met and bonded with their future parents to finish the necessary legal procedures so that they can join their families."

Vladimir Lukin, head of the Russian Human Rights Commission and a former ambassador to Washington, said he would challenge the law in the Constitutional Court.

The U.S. law galvanized Russian resentment of the United States, which Putin has claimed funded and encouraged the wave of massive anti-government protests that arose last winter.

The Parliament initially considered a relatively similar retaliatory measure, but amendments have expanded it far beyond a tit-for-tat response.

UNICEF estimates that there are about 740,000 children not in parental custody in Russia while about 18,000 Russians are on the waiting list to adopt a child. The U.S. is the biggest destination for adopted Russian children – more than 60,000 of them have been taken in by Americans over the past two decades.

Russians historically have been less enthusiastic about adopting children than most Western cultures. Putin, along with signing the adoption ban, on Friday issued an order for the government to develop a program to provide more support for adopted children.

Lev Ponomarev, one of Russia's most prominent human rights activists, hinted at that reluctance when he said Parliament members who voted for the bill should take custody of the children who were about to be adopted.

"The moral responsibility lies on them," he told Interfax. "But I don't think that even one child will be taken to be brought up by deputies of the Duma."

Many Russians have been distressed for years by reports of Russian children dying or suffering abuse at the hands of their American adoptive parents. The new Russian law was dubbed the "Dima Yakovlev Bill" after a toddler who died in 2008 when his American adoptive father left him in a car in broiling heat for hours.

In that case, the father was found not guilty of involuntary manslaughter and Russia has complained of acquittals or light sentences in other such cases.

The Investigative Committee, Russia's top investigative body, on Friday complained that its attempts to have the acquittals overturned or reconsidered had been ignored by the United States. Under U.S. law, acquittals are final except in rare cases.

Russians also bristled at how the widespread adoptions appeared to show them as hardhearted or too poor to take care of orphans. Astakhov, the children's ombudsman, charged that well-heeled Americans often got priority over Russians who wanted to adopt.

A few lawmakers even claimed that some Russian children were adopted by Americans only to be used for organ transplants or become sex toys or cannon fodder for the U.S. Army. A spokesman for Russia's dominant Orthodox Church said that children adopted by foreigners and raised outside the church will not enter God's kingdom.
Article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/28/russia-vladimir-putin-adoptions-bill_n_2374291.html

This..makes perfect sense.

Destructive Impulse
December 28th, 2012, 07:31 PM
My god that's horrible. My friends brother is a Russian orphan. This is idiotic. They screwed 50 children out of homes. I'm disgusted.

MrDaniel2K13
December 28th, 2012, 07:38 PM
Its a disgrace

Noirtier
December 28th, 2012, 08:08 PM
Yeah, I heard about this. Welcome to political warfare people, two countries disagreeing and innocents being caught in the crossfire. Honestly, it's awful, but I don't see it getting undone anytime soon.

chrisawesome
December 28th, 2012, 11:53 PM
I am also disgusted by the Russian govt. denying the hopeful orphans wishing to be adopted by new better parents in a better country. Russians are soooo stupid. They need to get their heads out of the ice and realize they have such stupid policies. Such as communism and this rejection of adoption. They think that America is exposing them to sex or selling their organs! What are we also selling their skulls to voodoo, using their blood for red dye. I mean get real people, it is almost 2013!!!

Everyone has sex and you get the option to donate your organ to science. The pope said that donating your organs after you die doesnt prevent you from going to heaven. Only your soul goes to heaven not your heart, liver, or kidneys. We dont discriminate adoption from other countries because of the way they are. Who does Russia think they are to say this?

FreeFall
December 29th, 2012, 02:41 AM
Those poor babies and children. Their "leader" basically spat in their faces, denying them a family, love, affection, security and comfort. I hope, somehow, they get into a good home.

Jess
December 29th, 2012, 11:13 PM
Ugh. Those poor children! Stupid Russian government :/

Thunderstorm
December 31st, 2012, 12:26 PM
This is terrible. They did a story on a woman who was just about to adopt and it was taken away from her, just like that. My cousin was just adopted from Russia on my birthday a few months back. It hurts the kids more than anything.

LouBerry
December 31st, 2012, 01:40 PM
I think it's sad. I mean, drop bombs on us or something, don't screw with kids.

Veta
February 4th, 2013, 01:53 AM
Why cant you Americans adopt your own children and just shut up and leave our politics alone?

I am also disgusted by the Russian govt. denying the hopeful orphans wishing to be adopted by new better parents in a better country. Russians are soooo stupid. They need to get their heads out of the ice and realize they have such stupid policies. Such as communism and this rejection of adoption. They think that America is exposing them to sex or selling their organs! What are we also selling their skulls to voodoo, using their blood for red dye. I mean get real people, it is almost 2013!!!

Everyone has sex and you get the option to donate your organ to science. The pope said that donating your organs after you die doesnt prevent you from going to heaven. Only your soul goes to heaven not your heart, liver, or kidneys. We dont discriminate adoption from other countries because of the way they are. Who does Russia think they are to say this?

Don't worry we Russians are disgusted by your own government as well, getting into everybody's business.

better parents? Better country? This was implemented because the amount of Russian children being abused in their adopted Americans homes is high, have you ever heard about that American woman returning her kid?You idiots brough this to yourselves, they are only trying to protect our kids, heck some of those children that have been abused were better off in an orphanage. Adoption is still open for other "better" countries such as Sweden, the UK, etc and hey lets face it Putin would like to have those kids adopted into any country BUT America.

Communism? This is not 1991 get over it LOL

Paranoia much? LOL And you sound sooo smart by talking about heaving and s***

And yes, you call us Russians stupid, as if you guys where the smartest population in the world.

Merged double post. -Gigablue

Emerald Dream
February 4th, 2013, 08:34 AM
This is awful. Whatever nationality a child is, he/she should have an opportunity to escape a horrible environment if that chance presents itself. There are probably a lot of people who are more than willing to adopt them and give them that chance. :(

Haufen
February 4th, 2013, 02:37 PM
Don't worry we Russians are disgusted by your own government as well, getting into everybody's business.

Agreed.
Putin is a great man and the Russian people are a great people. I trust both of them more than I would ever trust the American government and people. I wish we had a man with the balls Putin has.

Guillermo
February 4th, 2013, 09:09 PM
At first, this sounded horrible. But so does a Tennessee woman sending back her 7-year old adopted Russian child (alone) back to Moscow. Adoption should be a domestic issue first. Then, if, and only if, the child cannot find a home in their home country, it can become a foreign affair. But, hell, the U.S. has got enough babies (and older kids) up for adoption. Maybe we should worry about our home affairs first?

Lyra Heartstrings
February 6th, 2013, 06:23 AM
At first, this sounded horrible. But so does a Tennessee woman sending back her 7-year old adopted Russian child (alone) back to Moscow. Adoption should be a domestic issue first. Then, if, and only if, the child cannot find a home in their home country, it can become a foreign affair. But, hell, the U.S. has got enough babies (and older kids) up for adoption. Maybe we should worry about our home affairs first?

Fair point. Still, morally, it isn't correct to leave the kids to be..well, abused.

Twilly F. Sniper
February 6th, 2013, 08:07 AM
Sounds like Americans don't know the Russian side of the story.
It actually is a good idea and I agree with Putin on this one. If children had been used as guinea pigs which doesn't surprise me somehow...

I side with Putin. End of story. People should adopt kids from their own countries. That however does include Russia.

World Eater
February 6th, 2013, 06:52 PM
Don't worry we Russians are disgusted by your own government as well, getting into everybody's business.

better parents? Better country? This was implemented because the amount of Russian children being abused in their adopted Americans homes is high, have you ever heard about that American woman returning her kid?You idiots brough this to yourselves, they are only trying to protect our kids, heck some of those children that have been abused were better off in an orphanage. Adoption is still open for other "better" countries such as Sweden, the UK, etc and hey lets face it Putin would like to have those kids adopted into any country BUT America.

Communism? This is not 1991 get over it LOL

Paranoia much? LOL And you sound sooo smart by talking about heaving and s***

And yes, you call us Russians stupid, as if you guys where the smartest population in the world.

http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/Rebornplusalive/imagesfasd.jpg

Zenos
February 6th, 2013, 08:26 PM
I am also disgusted by the Russian govt. denying the hopeful orphans wishing to be adopted by new better parents in a better country. Russians are soooo stupid. They need to get their heads out of the ice and realize they have such stupid policies. Such as communism and this rejection of adoption. They think that America is exposing them to sex or selling their organs! What are we also selling their skulls to voodoo, using their blood for red dye. I mean get real people, it is almost 2013!!!

Everyone has sex and you get the option to donate your organ to science. The pope said that donating your organs after you die doesnt prevent you from going to heaven. Only your soul goes to heaven not your heart, liver, or kidneys. We dont discriminate adoption from other countries because of the way they are. Who does Russia think they are to say this?


Russia is Russia,and they like anyother nation have the right to do what they feel is in the best interest of their citizens.

Veta
February 6th, 2013, 09:35 PM
image (http://i490.photobucket.com/albums/rr270/Rebornplusalive/imagesfasd.jpg)

LOL So you feel that you have the right to insult my country and then get all "funny" and start with your sarcastic crap when I insult yours? Funny.

World Eater
February 6th, 2013, 10:00 PM
LOL So you feel that you have the right to insult my country and then get all "funny" and start with your sarcastic crap when I insult yours? Funny.

Did that image attack or insult Russia in any way? I don't think so.
And if you're going to get defensive and can't take a small little joke, then don't reply back. Also, if you insult another person's country...well, you're going to get flak for it.

Veta
February 7th, 2013, 11:04 PM
LOL. didnt you just read what I typed? That's exactly what I'm saying, if you cant stand a comment I made dont reply with your stupid images

World Eater
February 8th, 2013, 12:01 AM
LOL. didnt you just read what I typed? That's exactly what I'm saying, if you cant stand a comment I made dont reply with your stupid images

Oh...well OK fine, you didn't find the image funny so I apologize.

seamo34
May 12th, 2015, 01:06 PM
I was adopted from Russia so this topic is close to my hear and its very sad to hear this :(

Emerald Dream
May 12th, 2015, 01:26 PM
This thread was bumped. :locked: