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Jess
December 25th, 2012, 04:57 PM
Catholic Church urges Irish to oppose abortion law (http://news.yahoo.com/catholic-church-urges-irish-oppose-abortion-law-000314014.html)

DUBLIN (Reuters) - The head of Ireland's Catholic Church urged followers in his Christmas Day message to lobby against government plans to legalize abortion.

Ireland, the only EU member state that currently outlaws the procedure, is preparing legislation that would allow limited access to abortion after the European Court of Human Rights criticized the current regime.

The death last month of an Indian woman who was denied an abortion of her dying foetus and later died of blood poisoning has intensified the debate around abortion, which remains a hugely divisive subject in the predominantly Catholic country.

"I hope that everyone who believes that the right to life is fundamental will make their voice heard in a reasonable, but forthright, way to their representatives," Cardinal Sean Brady said in a Christmas message on Tuesday.

"No government has the right to remove that right from an innocent person."

Irish Prime Minister Enda Kenny, a regular Mass goer, is bringing in legislation that would allow a woman to have an abortion if her life was at risk from pregnancy.

The country's Supreme Court ruled in 1992 that abortion was permitted when a woman's life was at risk but successive governments have avoided legislating for it because it is so divisive.

The death of Savita Halappanavar, who repeatedly asked for an abortion while she was miscarrying in an Irish hospital, highlighted the lack of clarity in Irish law that leaves doctors in a legally risky position.

Halappanavar's death re-ignited the abortion debate and prompted large protests by groups both in favor of and against abortion.

Kenny and his conservative Fine Gael party have been criticized for tackling the abortion issue and some party members have indicated that they may not be able to back the law.

Relations between the Irish government and the once dominant Catholic Church are at an all-time low in the wake of years of clerical sex abuse scandals.

Kenny told parliament last year that the Vatican's handling of the scandals had been dominated by "elitism and narcissism" and accused it of trying to cover up the abuse. The speech prompted the Vatican to recall its ambassador, or nuncio, to Ireland.

Brady, who has faced calls this year to resign over accusations he failed to warn parents their children were being sexually abused, said in his Christmas message that he wanted relations with government to improve.

"My hope is that the year ahead will see the relationship between faith and public life in our country move beyond the sometimes negative, exaggerated caricatures of the past."

Mortal Coil
December 25th, 2012, 05:29 PM
This is just pathetic. I mean, especially in the wake of an incident that shows exactly how devastating and arbitrary that anti-abortion law is, the church is telling people that they should oppose this reform?
No words can express my confusion and anger right now.

Guillermo
December 25th, 2012, 09:18 PM
Not really surprising at all... Éire has been known to be a really Catholic, conservative country - especially in European terms. However, Poland, which is a country that is just as Catholic and just as conservative has allowed abortions for certain circumstances such as when the woman's health is endangered or when the baby is malformed. And I think even for cases of rape, too. Technically, Ireland has allowed abortions for extreme cases like health of the mother, but apparently doctors have a hard time "determining the circumstance" - and that's why this woman basically died.

TigerBoy
December 26th, 2012, 07:51 AM
More dangerous science denialism and social control.


"My hope is that the year ahead will see the relationship between faith and public life in our country move beyond the sometimes negative, exaggerated caricatures of the past."

On the contrary, society would be best served by remembering those lessons of the past witch hunts, persecutions and child abuse originated by his Church. A fraudulent attempt to rewrite or ignore a shameful history under the guise of being a misunderstood victim of bad press. Yet another Catholic subversion of the season's sentiment of peace and goodwill.

FreeFall
December 26th, 2012, 12:15 PM
I wonder if they grasp that abortion being legalized doesn't mean it will be forced upon every single woman in their country and that it doesn't mean there will be no births that year.
They're one of the most conservative/religious countries up there that comes to my mind, you'd think they have more faith in their women would be strongly against it unless they won't be alive in 3 hours due to the dying fetus. And even then, they may refuse it.

Pierce
December 26th, 2012, 01:33 PM
Ireland is becoming increasingly liberal. The tight grip the Catholic Church used to have on Ireland is slipping slowly. Many, if not most, Irish citizens support gay marriage and the public is now protesting and calling for legalized abortion. It is hard for a country like Ireland, who has relied heavily on their religion throughout their past, to go against the Catholic church in the blink of an eye. Like I said Ireland is becoming increasingly liberal but it will take time. I believe in Ireland and I hope the Irish will make the right decision.

dingo006
December 26th, 2012, 02:52 PM
I think Ireland needs a Ted Kennedy style politician who is extremely popular but also known to be extremely catholic that can give the argument that one can be personally against abortion while also believing that it is in the best interest of a society for abortion to be legal and rare.

MrDaniel2K13
December 26th, 2012, 05:14 PM
The Irish Government definitively have to rethink the law, I'm sure that most of the Catholics living in Ireland would think that Abortion is acceptable in certain circumstances; EG; the mother isn't well