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Guillermo
December 24th, 2012, 01:40 PM
24 December 2012 Last updated at 13:14 ET

US firefighters shot dead at blaze in Webster, New York


Two volunteer firefighters have been shot dead and two injured while responding to an emergency call in the town of Webster in New York state.

It appears the four were fired upon as they arrived at the scene of a fire early on Monday morning.

The blaze broke out just before 06:00 local time (11:00 GMT) and the shooting reportedly prevented firefighters putting it out for several hours.

A gunman has been found dead at the scene, local police say.

"Upon arrival of the first... engine company and some firefighters in their personal vehicles, they underwent gunfire from a location unknown," Webster's Fire Marshal Rob Boutillier told reporters.

The two dead firefighters were named by police as Tomasz Kaczowka and Mike Chiapperini.

An off-duty policeman who was driving by the scene at the time received shrapnel wounds and was also being treated, Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering told reporters.

Police spokesmen said the area was "an active crime scene" but that no more shooters were believed to be present.

'Senseless act'
Police teams moved in to evacuate residents after the shooting.

Firefighters were then able to return to the scene and are now tackling the blaze.

"All of our thoughts and prayers go to the families and friends of those who were killed in this senseless act of violence," New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said in a statement.

"The contributions made by the fallen and injured officers in Webster will never be forgotten," New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman said.

"As this investigation unfolds, we stand with our partners in law enforcement to ensure that lethal weapons are out of the hands of dangerous people, so that the brave New Yorkers who risk their lives every day to protect us are not exposed to additional danger," he added.

Also on Monday, a policeman was shot dead in the city of Houston, Texas after the driver of a car he pulled over opened fire on him.

The debate on gun violence in the US was rekindled earlier this month by the shootings at a school in Newtown, Connecticut, which left 20 children and six adults dead at Sandy Hook Elementary School.

It was one of the worst mass shootings in American history.

"There's a heightened awareness to this kind of violence in light of what happened in Connecticut," said Maggie Brooks, leader of the local administration in Monroe County, the area which includes Webster.

"We have first responders and we have families who are in pain and crisis today and we need to, as a community, keep them in our thoughts and prayers," Mrs Brooks said, adding that it was a "very, very difficult day".

President Obama has promised to push for action on gun control while the National Rifle Association (NRA) has called for armed security in all American schools.

Link: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-20838925

Well, just another incident to kindle the debate about gun control.

Darkness.
December 24th, 2012, 01:57 PM
My guess is that whoever was shooting at the firefighters did not want them to put out the fire. Meaning that people might have been inside at that time. My thoughts are with the families of the firefighters that have either been injured or died.

xcrunner77
December 24th, 2012, 02:02 PM
The shooting was not about the fire according to hat is now being reported, the fire was a trap is what they now believe

Drew5
December 24th, 2012, 02:14 PM
It seems like we have an excess of crazy lately.

Troy35216
December 24th, 2012, 02:18 PM
so the gunman started the fire to lure the firefighters there just so he could shoot them? wtf

Lost in the Echo
December 24th, 2012, 02:25 PM
Damn, that's sad. Especially because it happened around Christmas time.
I feel bad for the 2 victims, may they rest in peace.
And I wish their families the best, in coping with their loss.

Guillermo
December 24th, 2012, 05:21 PM
Update:


From BBC News:
Police said the four were fired upon in an "apparent trap" as they arrived on Monday morning.

The blaze broke out just before 06:00 local time (11:00 GMT) and officers had to evacuate nearby residents in an armoured car.

A gunman has been found dead at the scene, local police say.

The man was 62-year-old William Spengler, Webster Police Chief Gerald Pickering told media.

Spengler appeared to have shot himself in the head, Mr Pickering said.

He had previously served a 17-year jail sentence after being convicted of killing his grandmother.

Spengler's sister is unaccounted for and police fear she may have died in the fire, which engulfed seven houses.

Jess
December 24th, 2012, 10:17 PM
That is just awful. Even worse that it was a trap.......my heart goes out to the families

Kochanek
December 25th, 2012, 12:15 PM
It was even in the news in Europe. I feel with the families too.

Why don't we finally recognise, that guns should not be easier to get than a can of beer. To argue that only to spread more weapons among the "good" would help against armed "bad" is cynical. It is always the bad, that shoots first, so the good will usually be dead before able to shoot back.

Most states in Europe demand, first to get a license to own a gun - which you only get for sports shooting, hunting or if you are policeman. Then the gun's serial number is going to be registrated, who bought it. And finally you have to keep the weapon and the ammunition in different locked cupboards.

The effect: Less weapons and less murder.

YEAH BABY
December 25th, 2012, 08:20 PM
I am a volunteer firefighter for Plandome Fire Department out on Long Island, and it really hits home because we as firefighters consider ourselves one big family. It's like loosing a brother. We risk our lives everyday to save people and property.
R.I.P.