Reputation? Anyone else hate it?

[dusman77]

First, if this is in the wrong place, fix it mods. Secondly, I hate the reputation feature. One, it creates a system that creates opportunity to be thought of as better or worse than others. Two, it can be unfairly manipulated to get more rep by getting friends to give you loads of rep. And three, if you don't agree with someone on here, they can give you negative rep just because you don't agree with them. How is that fair? It's happened to me and it is extremely annoying. I just want to see if anyone feels as strongly about it as I do.

[ackmedsgirl666]

agreed. i myself have had some problems with the rep system for the past month
recieving unfair rep for stupid reasons. it doesnt really mean anything if you get neg rep or whatever. i try not to not let it bug me anymore.

[Lost in the Echo]

I don't hate it. And no, there is no bias for someone with high rep, VS. someone with low rep.
It seems like people only hate it if thy get neg rep.
Yes, it sucks when you receive -rep, but just deal with it.
Having high or low rep won't or shouldn't change anything.
Just post good and helpful advice, and the +rep will come.:)

Try not to pay too much attention to rep.

[Professional Russian]

OH christ people. THeres no problem with rep. i agree sometimes some neg reps are stupid, if you have a problem with that PM one of the Admins,ImCoolBeans is more active than Scarface though, if you have a problem. they will make the ultimate decision. I would link the names but im too lazy :D

[Magical]

Ick. I don't like rep simply because it discourages me from posting. If I disagree with the common opinion, I have been neg repped (at least in the past). It's not a good way to encourage debate...in the debating forum.

Oh. Right, Bocefus. Someone's reputation never matters. No one ever judges anyone on their reputation. Reputation is someone's first impression of you as it is the community's view of you. First impressions matter.

EDIT: I love how it shows your rep power even if you've disabled reputation, so that people can still get an idea of your rep - the lower the power, the lower your rep.

[Lost in the Echo]

Ick. I don't like rep simply because it discourages me from posting. If I disagree with the common opinion, I have been neg repped (at least in the past). It's not a good way to encourage debate...in the debating forum.

Oh. Right, Bocefus. Someone's reputation never matters. No one ever judges anyone on their reputation. Reputation is someone's first impression of you as it is the community's view of you. First impressions matter.
No, it doesn't.
There have been times where i've seen people with 3 or 4 neg rep blocks, and I +rep them because I can tell by looking at their posts that they are either a good person, or give helpful advice.
If someone is trolling and has a shitload of neg rep, somebody might think sarcastically to themselves "Oh, I wonder why he/she has all that bad rep".
There have been times where people have a lot of neg rep, but over time their rep skyrockets up, because they give helpful advice.
There have also been times i've neg repped people with very high rep, because they post something spammy or off-topic.

So no, your rep has absolutely no effect on your first impression, as long as you give good advice, people will respect you.
They may even +rep you.

The first impression you make has to do with your posts, not your rep.

[TigerBoy]

I love getting the nice comments, it's what keeps me coming back when people say I've helped them. I don't like the couple of occasions when I have had anon neg rep and the person has clearly got butthurt over completely mis reading what I actually said. I'd love to be able to get back to them and apologise or explain what I meant. I don't like how certain people use it to neg rep people who disagree with them, as I consider it a bullying tactic. I'd be happier if it was just a 'like' system that allowed a message, preferably no scores involved so it needn't be anonymous then.

[TigerBoy]

I think we all learned something today ...
http://chuckpalahniuk.net/files/u1026008/stan-marsh-south-park-zone.png
Neg rep sucks arse.

[SosbanFach]

I feel that my opinion on this subject is changing somewhat. I have long felt that what may have originally been a helpful and informative system has degraded (if indeed it weren't originally thus) into a 'popularity contest' (to use the words commonly applied to it), however I hadn't previously seen any reason for it to be reconsidered and reformed. Recently, however, and undeniably due in part to the sheer number of threads similar to this one, I have found myself agreeing with several points raised.

When a system is abused (if that is not too strong a term) in the way that this one has, it loses all value–all too often, valid points raised via the reputation system are overshadowed by completely inappropriate applications, on both positive and negative (though I do wonder which is more widespread–in my own experience it is the former). While I do not wish to imply that those who make valid contributions to the site through well thought-out posts ought not to have some form of recognition, I feel that the system in place currently is more hassle, and causes more disagreement than it is worth, and based on my own personal experience, represents very little in terms of quality–far too much of my own reputation has been built up where it was undeserved (I don't suppose anybody might recall a certain widespread 'agreement'?)

I personally would support a rather more open system (in order to discourage misuse) which focussed less on subtraction, and more on rewarding the highest quality posts, such as some sort of 'like' system, which also would not give priority to any of the more established (for want of a better word) users. While I understand that reputation shouldn't be important in assessing impressions of a user, all too often it is, and can therefore be grossly misleading. On the other hand, comments are undoubtedly a vital part of the system, which may otherwise be integrate–I'm not sure if this could possibly be done.



I apologise for that ridiculously and unnecessarily wordy response. I'm not entirely sure that it makes sense…

[Sir Suomi]

If you're going to give out bad rep on here, you should at least sign it and give a reason for it. I've had a lot of unsigned negative rep on here just for posting my opinions on subjects in ROTW.

But if y Bo gave you negative rep,knowing him, you really must have fucked up.

[Professional Russian]

Ick. I don't like rep simply because it discourages me from posting. If I disagree with the common opinion, I have been neg repped (at least in the past). It's not a good way to encourage debate...in the debating forum.

Oh. Right, Bocefus. Someone's reputation never matters. No one ever judges anyone on their reputation. Reputation is someone's first impression of you as it is the community's view of you. First impressions matter.

EDIT: I love how it shows your rep power even if you've disabled reputation, so that people can still get an idea of your rep - the lower the power, the lower your rep.

Actually rep doesn't matter. I had a shit ton of neg rep before and there's people that will verify that for you now at over 100. Why? Because eventually I moved to H&A and posted better in debates and there for people started plus reaping me more.

[dusman77]

If you're going to give out bad rep on here, you should at least sign it and give a reason for it. I've had a lot of unsigned negative rep on here just for posting my opinions on subjects in ROTW.

But if y Bo gave you negative rep,knowing him, you really must have fucked up.

It was a misunderstanding. He thought I was trolling until I explained it to him.

[Sir Suomi]

It was a misunderstanding. He thought I was trolling until I explained it to him.

Oh, well then, I guess this is another misunderstanding. My bad :P

[Iron Man]

Another one of these...

Jeez. The only people that are getting hurt by the rep system are the ones who get neg rep for things that are either offensive, or unhelpful to the purpose of the thread, and those same people whine and complain that things aren't going their way. Oh, you get neg repped, big deal. Shake it off and continue about your lives. There will always be people that disagree with you. It happens.

[dusman77]

Oh, well then, I guess this is another misunderstanding. My bad :P
It's all good :D

[dusman77]

Another one of these...

Jeez. The only people that are getting hurt by the rep system are the ones who get neg rep for things that are either offensive, or unhelpful to the purpose of the thread, and those same people whine and complain that things aren't going their way. Oh, you get neg repped, big deal. Shake it off and continue about your lives. There will always be people that disagree with you. It happens.
My standpoint is that the rep system is an unfair system because it is easily manipulated and you can lose rep for misunderstandings, or just because someone disagrees with you. I am in no way "whining" about it, although it does make me mad that the rep system was designed this way.

[Iron Man]

My standpoint is that the rep system is an unfair system because it is easily manipulated and you can lose rep for misunderstandings, or just because someone disagrees with you.

If there was a misunderstanding with rep, you can always contact an Admin to have it removed, if it really bothers you.


I am in no way "whining" about it, although it does make me mad that the rep system was designed this way.

I highly doubt the rep system was designed to be a caste system.

[dusman77]

If there was a misunderstanding with rep, you can always contact an Admin to have it removed, if it really bothers you.




I highly doubt the rep system was designed to be a caste system.

I doubt it too. That's why I think the system is corrupted, because it has become one.

[Aajj333]

It's not so much the reputation as it is the dumb ass people who think they are the police in the comments

[FreeFall]

I honestly don't see the point of neg repping unless the post is blatantly hateful, offensive or ignorant. What point is there to say "your opinion doesn't match mine therefore I'll be taking some of your rep"?

And if someone disregards your post or reveres it due to the colored blocks under your image, that's their issue. You posting style, content and point of view will be the same regardless of how much or how little rep you have. Since you're going to say it anyways, the only thing that can be done is if the person is the type to only listen to those with high or low rep. I honestly think the only people that care about rep, are the ones that like to look at their CP list for it. I feel not too many posters here go on the other people's rep, seems to be more a personal matter.

[Abyssal Echo]

OH christ people. THeres no problem with rep. i agree sometimes some neg reps are stupid, if you have a problem with that PM one of the Admins,ImCoolBeans is more active than Scarface though, if you have a problem. they will make the ultimate decision. I would link the names but im too lazy :D

I agree with Professional Russian the rep system works fine. yeah it sucks to get neg rep for stupid shit but it happens if it really bugs you get ahold of Scarface or ImCoolBeans

[Mirage]

Locked by OP request.

:locked:

[ImCoolBeans]

Although this is locked, I'll get what I want to say out into the air.

First off, creating a thread with malicious intent towards other members isn't cool and nobody ever likes to see that, so that wasn't a very nice thing of you to do OP.

Secondly, it's quite sad that rep has to be a feature that is hated by users. I have been on many other forums with rep features -- most forums I've been on have had one actually -- and not one of those sites has had an issue like we are currently having with it. How did rep get to be such a heated topic on this site? By ruining it for ourselves. The reputation system was ruined by continuos abuse by those who use it. So many members "rep farm" to gain rep and it's starting to seem as if nobody respects the system at all anymore. But all of the blame can't be put onto a select few people; because we are all to blame for it. We abused our own system, then we made it into a huge deal which completely turned everybody off from it. It's a shame that it could not be used maturely and I hope that it won't always be an issue; but I don't see many other options besides completely canning it.