Do you believe in God?

[xarvon1412]

What do you think about God?

I don't think I do anymore. I used to when I was younger because that's what I was taught.. As I grew up though I realized that I didn't want there to be anybody up there. If there's somebody up there then that means that there's just one more person who's turned their back on me cutting and other innocent teenagers who hurt themselves just to feel better. If God does exist then he's never helped me. When my parents learned I was self-harming they told me to pray to God and give my problems to him. I used to pray to him day and night, asking him for help, but I've never gotten an answer. He's never helped me. So I guess I'm just curious as to the rest of your opinions.

--No fighting about religion please--

[jayyy-lmao]

I personally don't believe in God or Gods. But I totally understand the " God doesn't care" stuff. I have felt often that people ignore you when your sad because they don't know what to do to fix it.

[Lost in the Echo]

Well, I used to believe in god, but i'm not sure if I do anymore.

You're going to have to take matters into your own hands though, try finding out what triggers you to cut, or find a hobby that you enjoy and keeps you busy.
Or try talking to a counselor/therapist, seriously, they can help.
I know that talking to my counselor helped me get through a hard time when I was suicidal.

[Green Arrow]

I do not believe in god, I believe in the beloved Flying Spaghetti Monster. :)

[Elysium]

When I was young, I too believed in God, because that was how I was raised and I didn't really think about it too much. Come 5th grade, that belief abruptly stopped when I broke my leg and went through a pretty traumatizing recovery. I remember praying in my hospital room, and then it would only get worse, so I gave up. If there was a God, he obviously wasn't listening or keen on helping. Now, I try to take responsibility. Having a God would be like passing the responsibility onto someone or something else. It's also an idea of security which I feel to be false. Whatever gets people by, though.

[ackmedsgirl666]

believing in god was how my parents raised me
i was forced to go to church as a kid and if i feel asleep during the service i would get punished, also my parents used to make me pray at night and read the bible... but since i was in childrens aid i made my own choice and decided to try and follow god and i hopes that maybe i would get an answer...

i prayed to be freed of cas
my time came to be alone

i prayed for my mommmy and me to be closer
now we are

i prayed for happiness and good health and i got it

and he gave me the most precious person to love and that was my boyfriend....

but i feel that everytime i do something bad i should ask for forgiveness and whenever i do that good things happened.... i tried to have a baby for the past year and he wouldnt give me that because i wasnt in a stable relationship.. but now i am and i might be pregnant :)

i beleive in god in moderation... and if others dont believe in him then thats their opinion i dont force it on them..

i do hope to someday meet him.... and apologize to him for all the wrong things i did.

[LouBerry]

I don't 'Believe' in God. I used to believe in Santa, and I believe in love at first sight. But that's different entirely. I know God. I have an intimate relationship with Him, and I love him. I understand completely how you could feel that way, because I've been angry with Him too. But if I know anything about the way he works, it's that it's all for a higher purpose, even if we can't comprehend it at the time.

[Danny_boi 16]

I BELIEVE in GOD

[Sph2015]

Well, I've been brought up in a Catholic household

I'll pause a second for people to judge me for that... Done? Good.

I don't really know what I think. I certainly have a lot of "Catholic guilt" but I don't know if it's really a bad thing. I look at it as a conscience on steroids. While sometimes I think there is no hope at all, other times things just don't quite add up. I've had a lot of death in my life this year, and it has completely sucked. One instance, though, really caught my attention.

Back in August, a friend of mine was in a very bad atv accident. She was in terrible shape and things did not look good at all. On one particular day, a teacher at my school (who is the nicest person you'll ever meet, and very special to everyone) gave me a signed copy of her book that she'd written on dealing with the loss of a teenager (her daughter was killed in a car accident in '97). It was very out of the blue, but I appreciated greatly because... well she doesn't do that for many people. I had a lot of stuff to do that day, and was very distracted by my friend's situation. My phone died early in the day, so I was unable to keep updated on her condition. I got through the day, and finished a lot of important tasks. It wasn't until I finally reached home and had my phone chsrging for about 2 minutes that another close friend (the girl's cousin) texted me saying that she wasn't going to make it.

Looking back, there were a lot of coincidences leading up to her death. Many of them almost... preparing me? I still don't know what I think, but it's memory that I keep getting drawn back to. Most would say that if there was a God, she should have lived. To me, though, there is something about it that almost proves there is a God. I just hope one day I can make up my mind...

[lyriclover]

I don't believe in God. I don't think it's possible for anyone or anything to know everything wrong in the world, have the power to help, and not do anything. I was raised catholic when my grandparents were still alive. When I was 7 I desided I was an athiest. Now I'm 14, and my parents don't talk about religion but I know they still believe in God. I'm happy that I took my life in my own hands. For a while when I was like 12 I started questioning my choice. For a few months I tried believing. Thoes were the worst months of my life. Now I help myself. I don't pray for things to happen, I go out and make them happen.

[Abyssal Echo]

although I dont have a real good relationship with him I do believe in God.

[Stryker125]

Yup, I believe in God.

[tubanic]

I don't believe in god, when you feel your life is shit you can't really imagine why anyone who loves you would make you live through it.

[Megson]

I don't. I never really believed, either. My family made me go to church, but I don't think I ever took it seriously. When we stopped going, I stopped thinking about God all together.

If there IS a God, I don't understand how he could possibly let so many people suffer like this in our world. I can't imagine why he would let such horrible things happen. If He is real, He isn't the kind of God that I want to worship.

[DamoMac]

No, I certainly don't believe in God. I am an Atheist, have been for as long as i can remember, and I am very happy being an atheist.

I would never question, or judge someone for believing in God. The beauty of life, I believe, is that everyone is different, and you have the right to be, no one should take that away from you.

I would never look down on someone for being religious, or believing in God. I could not think of anything more childish. What if you are to have a son or daughter in the future, and they grow up believing heavily in God?, would you forbid that, or strip that childs right to believe in a higher power? I could never do such a thing.

I simply don't believe in it. My faith is in science, and the people of this planet. My faith is in science, to find a cure for cancer, to help prevent disease, to find cures for those who so desperately need one. My faith is in science to help continue to improve individuals health and well-being, and give those who need, a better life.

I may not believe in God, I think a lot of the reason I don't is because I like to base what I know, and believe on logic, and it is just to hard a concept for me to grasp, and to illogical for me to believe of the existence of something that there is no proof or evidence of. A man in the sky who created everything, is just to illogical, to many holes in that theory.

That's just me though. Everyone is different, and I fully respect that.

[Coolboi]

yes I do . as a lot of people do AMEN love you Jesus ��

[Mob Boss]

I consider myself agnostic because I don't know whether there is a god or not, but I don't automatically shoot down the idea that a god(s) could be possible -- after all, ANYthing is possible. If you truly believe in god but you're just feeling abandoned because of the hardships you're facing, I have no doubt you'll find your faith again. I was always raised (my family is all Christian) that if god thinks you're strong enough to overcome obstacles then he'll just sit back and watch because overcoming them makes you a better person. If you've truly lost faith, then that is cool too because it shows maturity in that you're growing up and discovering things through your own experiences.

I'm sorry you feel so alone and you're facing such tough struggles. Is it too cliché to say it will get better? It probably is. Hearing that is probably like a broken record playing over and over again in your head. I honestly do think it gets better. There are too many happy endings after people have struggled and/or lost all hope to ignore.

Self-harming is so addicting; I know from experience, but it can be overcome. Your parents should support you a little more besides putting all the weight on your faith. It's okay to need help. It's okay to seek that help through other means besides prayer and religion, such as school counselors, therapist, etc. Self-harm is an emotional coping mechanism, so talking to someone about your problems will lift a huge weight off of your shoulders. Try starting a journal, or writing to channel all of your emotions through to your paper. Get a hobby.

The main ways to overcome self-harming is:
1. Confide in someone- You need to express feelings through other forms besides self-injury.
2. Figure out the source that's causing the self-harm- Discover the reason you do it. Pinpointing the exact reason could help you fix that problem. Also, discover what triggers you.
3. Find a new coping mechanism- What you're doing now is doing far more harm than good. And the relief is short-lived, so what's the point? Try to find another way to get that same relief, but a healthier , longer-lasting method. I've already mentioned a few things, such as writing, but another way is popping a rubber band on your wrist when you feel the urge to cut.

If you ever need to talk, I'm a VM or PM away.

[Pipo]

no I don't.

Believe in yourself if you want to believe in something.

[Aloha]

Yes, I KNOW God! That's all because he is real and no matter what happens even when I doubt I still pray even if he doesn't answer me.

[Gigablue]

I don't. If one does exist, then he is absolutely reprehensible and I wouldn't worship his anyway. When I was trying to beat depression and self injury, where was he? He certainly didn't help. What did help was science. The power of therapy and medication, not some deity. I can either conclude that god is completely apathetic to everyone, or that he doesn't exist. I hope that the latter is true.

[CharlieHorse]

No, I'm an atheist.
Religion, in my opinion, is only used by those who want comfort by believing that there is no end to their soul, and there is an afterlife. It also guides people to let them know some standards for living, and what to care about, and how to be a nice person.
However, people in society have taken religion WAY TOO FAR!
I don't mind people believing in the values of a religion, but I can't stand people who take it too literally, and are stubborn, annoying, bullheaded, and irrational about it. Especially when it leads to people hating one another, or violence. It's just stupid.

[Arsenalfan123]

No never have belived

[RakshaMalayka]

I used to believe in God and heaven and all of that, I was raised Christian after all. However, I've lost faith in all of that. If there was a god why would he let all of this happen to people? Why would we go through so much pain and hurt and brought to breaking again and again? Would he allow us to lose hope in getting better and of our situation to get better? If there was a god he's turned his back on me. He's turned a blind eye to all the suffering. I used to pray every night between just thanking for what I did have and for others wellness, once in a while I would pray for help for myself. Every prayer that has ever escaped my lips has fallen unanswered. Whether you believe or not is your thing. Who knows maybe there is a god out there, but for matters at hand the best thing to do is to take them into your own hands. God or not, you have strength in yourself and you can defeat your own demons if you keep strength in yourself and don't give up and get whatever help/support you need.

[Desuetude]

Nope, I don't anymore. I've questioned it and was brought up as a Hindu so I've had a bit of an insight into what they think but I believe that there is no superior being, there is no heaven and hell, when we die, we die. That's the end of us. Sure it may seem very closed minded and slightly disheartening but that's just how it is in my head.

[StoppingTime]

Please make sure to stay on the topic of this thread, which is discussing whether you believe in god/God/gods in relation to self harm or other factors like this. If you'd like to discuss religion more generally, then please use the Religion Sticky in the Ramblings of the Wise forum.

Thanks! :)

[survivor]

I believe in God, but at one time I didn't. I was raised believing in God, but never really had faith. I lost the ability to believe in God after I got hurt in a car crash, I was the only one injured. However, when I was in seventh grade I tried to commit suicide and at the end of a long, dark road I found a light to turn to: God. Now I go to a religious high school and am going to be confirmed in the spring

[workingatperfect]

Sometimes I do and sometimes I don't. At the moment, yeah, I do. I've even been thinking about going back to my old youth group.

In relation to cutting and whatnot, my philosophy on that is that God isn't there to fix all your problems like magic. You'll never get stronger if you don't have to fight through tough times. I've definitely been angry with him at times, but I got over it because I knew those things I was mad about had to happen eventually, or had to happen for something else to happen.

I have a really hard time believing sometimes, and others I have no trouble. I loved my old youth group because it made it soo easy for me to believe. It was a Christian church, but they weren't preaching the "typical" Christian stuff. They were very accepting and basically just preached love, because that's what God is supposed to be about. It helped me through a very hard time in my life where I was really depressed and cutting a lot.

[Bath]

No, I don't believe in God. He wouldn't have let me suffered how I did, and he wouldn't let others suffer worse than me. People say "Satan prevents him from giving good to those people!" Then God is not omnipotent, and doesn't deserve my worship.

[Jen Jones]

I dont' my parents never forced it on me and I just never could convince myself that there was a higher power or anything like that.

[JustinPCGamer]

Nope, he doesn't exist. If he did, then there wouldn't be murderers, rapists, criminals, and other shit going on in the world right now. If he does exist, then this "God" just doesn't give a shit about us. Ah well, I guess we will all find out one day.

[Shade]

Yes, I do, and I will try to keep this short. I've always had questions as to why we are here and the meaning of life, and I know I've finally found it. It's really the only thing that makes sense. Now, the pain and suffering in this world is undeniable. It's reasonable to ask: Where is God? Why do we suffer? Why so much pain? The truth is that this system of things is not what Jehovah, the true God, intended for us to live in. This world is under Satan's corrupt influence and that's why there is so much suffering. However, in the near future Jehovah has promised to restore his original purpose and bring paradise for most of us- the ones with the right heart condition- on Earth. On a more personal note, I would like to say that if not for my God, I would not be alive today. Whenever I leave Him is when things get bad, but I know that any pain that I've felt is going to be worth it in the end. I have tried to kill myself before, but haven't succeeded and haven't tried again because of Him.

[danny7]

God hasn't done shit for me, so no

[Seattle-WA-Roxx]

Ooooo Atheists...Dont even get me STARTED Gurrl. I know you ain't FINNA sit there and tell ME there is no god...mmmm thas right gurl i will go BLACK on YO Ass! God is real and he is good, praise the lord! He will come save the ones who believe when our world ends and HE WILL protect us, hallelujah! Amen. Gurl I KNOW You finna say Amen cuz thats WHAT U SAY At the end of a prayah. mmhmm.

[qwertygirl]

I don't know if I believe in God. There are so many things that have happened to my mother that I think are so horrible, I can't imagine someone putting one person through so much stress.

Also, I hate the Bible. It's awful sounding, but so many things just don't add up to me. How can you hate someone that you created and are "watching over?" So many things don't make sense to me, but somehow I'm still hoping there is a God out there, I mean, I still capitalize the name, right?

Sigh. Idk.

[Collegeguy12]

I definitely do. But I would also never judge someone or try to force my beliefs on those who don't. I'm always open to any questions, and try to no be condescending in any way, because I would like the same for myself.

[Harry Smith]

No I don't. God and religon sickens me, it is everything which is wrong with the world. The only reason that religon is so widely accepted is because of fear, people are scared of the unknown.

[Jake17133]

No I don't believe in a magical guy that created the world with magical powers

[MrMundane]

I don't believe in religious gods. Ultimate intellegince might be possible but that would just mean it would have more advanced tech. Raised as a christian, church every sunday for a long time. Lost at faith at 12ish, about the time i started cutting.

[RedViper]

No I do not

[jayyy-lmao]

I gave up on God a long time ago.
I used to run to my room and pray.
But nothing ever got better.

[WalkingOnDisaster]

I do believe in God.

Edit: I still believe in god... But I'm angry that he didn't save my brother. He died today! He's gone! And he was my only real friend...

[Perfect_Insanity]

I believe in the possibility of a god. But I think, if there is a god, it's not the god that everyone believes in. I don't think, if there is one, it's so cruel to hate as much as people think it does.

[Greg1994]

Oi.. this is a tough subject for me. I'm a "catholic" although I disagree with a LOT of it. I only go to church because my parents make me. In general, I'd say I'm an agnostic-theist.

[What_ever]

Well, if we're talking religion, I have to say I'm agnostic and my parents are both atheists. So, even though I was taught that God doesn't exist, I think that there are some things that are greater than me and that I simply cannot understand, so I don't bother myself with them.

Now, do I belive that God (or whatever there is) cares about my problems? Absolutely not. There are wars and hunger and children dying all over the world. If he or she or it or whatever doesn't solve those problems, then I doubt he cares about mine. He has greater things to do. Besides, I think we should solve our problems ourselves. If there is God, he guides us towards the solution, he doesn't solve our problems for us.

[RunnerRunner]

I was raised a catholic but i lost faith so i became into athiest (one of the best desisions ive made so far) i dont beleive in god, and one good reason is, if there was a god then he would of stopped the holocaust, world hunger, and poverty. apparently non of that has been stopped except the holocaust which was too late to be stop when it was stopped.

[Left Now]

I believe in God,because the World shall have a goal.And its management is not useless.

[Fiction]

When i've been at my absolute lowest I used to find myself "praying". It was more like begging though. I used to genuinely beg "God" to make things better for me, I didn't even believe in God.

I'm still undecided about whether I do. There was never any immediate feeling of relief or calm when I prayed. I would still be there most of the night unable to stop crying. I'd still end up cutting and I still ended up in hospital. But the second time I came out of hospital, after having just been at my absolute rock bottom and worst things seemed to miraulously get better. I met up with my now boyfriend straight from being released from hospital, and after that my life instantly got better. From where I was it's somewhat of miracle how much better I am now. I don't know whether it's coincidence, growing up or some kind of religious miracle, who knows.

My mum thinks that God healed her from depression. My mum had had depression for years and had been on antidepressants. The doctor decided to try and take her off them. She was completely unable to cope. She'd been off them a week and she was crying constantly. That Sunday she went to church and was praying. She said that while she was praying she felt an odd feeling come over and had to go out the room. After that she recovered from her depression, and she believes this was God.

I'm not so sure though because now she's back on antidepressants and can't cope without them again.

[johnsmith1]

I'm an atheist, so I can't say that I do. I'm fairly scientific, so always look for answers, and always try and look at things objectively. If I were an alien, and had just arrived at this planet, what would I think of the human race.War, poverty, hunger, greed. Yes there is good out there, but there are horrors too. Religion has some good morals (if the 10 commandments could be modernised - don't steel and love thy naighbourgh are 2 good rules to live by).I think if we need help, we're the ones that need to do it.

[Jamesison]

I do believe in good..

[PinkFloyd]

I'm agnostic, so that means I am 50/50 on it. You could call me bi but with religion if that makes any sense.

[LuciferSam]

I believe that all of science is completely valid, but I also believe in some sort of supernatural entity. With me it's more of a feeling: I feel that something exists beyond me. I believe there's something out there, although it may not be the conventional "God". If you're looking for help through religion, you can't just sit back and wait for things to happen. You have to look for things presenting themselves to you. Are they sent by a deity? Maybe they aren't, but maybe they are. Ultimately, there is no harm in religion. It just depends on how much you let it run your life.

[LunarScorpio]

Totally.

God bless you all

[Ace of Spades]

Most certainly not. To say the least....

[AbernathyElkwood]

I honsetly don't think a believe in God, as in the person up there. It's not very common anymore, but I believe in more of the Greek mythology type gods... And if they're up there, they havn't listened to me either.

[Jevon]

You know I just don't really know...like I believe in somthing but Not necessarily like god the old man guy but I do believe there is somthing

[PromoteJustice4Life]

What do you think about God?

I don't think I do anymore. I used to when I was younger because that's what I was taught.. As I grew up though I realized that I didn't want there to be anybody up there. If there's somebody up there then that means that there's just one more person who's turned their back on me cutting and other innocent teenagers who hurt themselves just to feel better. If God does exist then he's never helped me. When my parents learned I was self-harming they told me to pray to God and give my problems to him. I used to pray to him day and night, asking him for help, but I've never gotten an answer. He's never helped me. So I guess I'm just curious as to the rest of your opinions.

--No fighting about religion please--

I was not raised in a Christian household. We never prayed before dinner or any of that stuff. But one day, My friend from school invited me to go to church with him. My whole outlook on life changed.
I believe that God works in a way that no human being can fathom. While you might be oblivious to it right now, you will eventually notice that God has helped each and everyone of you. He listens to all your prayers and solves them in ways that no human could ever think comprehend.

[Ace of Spades]

I was not raised in a Christian household. We never prayed before dinner or any of that stuff. But one day, My friend from school invited me to go to church with him. My whole outlook on life changed.
I believe that God works in a way that no human being can fathom. While you might be oblivious to it right now, you will eventually notice that God has helped each and everyone of you. He listens to all your prayers and solves them in ways that no human could ever think comprehend.

Tell that to the Rwandans.

[WickedWeekend]

I believe in God. I know the guy on a personal level. I keep scratching my head at some of the things you guys are saying though. You say God doesn't exist because of all this pain and evil in the world. I have a bit of a quote from a man named Lecrae. Hope y'all enjoy this.

You look man, "Some people say that God ain't real 'cause they don't see how a good God can exist with all this evil in the world. If God is real then He should stop all this evil, 'cause He's all-powerful right? What is evil though man? It's anything that's against God. It's anything morally bad or wrong. It's murder, rape, stealing, lying, cheating. But if we want God to stop evil, do we want Him to stop it all or just a little bit of it? If He stops us from doing evil things, what about lying, or what about our evil thoughts? I mean, where do you stop, the murder level, the lying level, or the thinking level? If we want Him to stop evil, we gotta be consistent, we can't just pick and choose. That means you and I would be eliminated right? Because we think evil stuff. If that's true, we should be eliminated! But thanks be to God that Jesus stepped in to save us from our sin! Christ died for our evilness! Repent, turn to Jesus man! "

I hope this doesn't start a war. I genuinely just want some of you guys to think on this though. I understand your situation. I too have gone through loss and suffering like you. I started doubting God, and questioning why I was on this planet still. I said to myself that God probably didn't exist because a good and loving God wouldn't cause suffering like that. But, man. I didn't see the big picture. He put me through those trials and sufferings to set me up for the carrying out of His plan. It's all a part of His big plan... If anything, this would prove He exists.

[Ace of Spades]

I believe in God. I know the guy on a personal level. I keep scratching my head at some of the things you guys are saying though. You say God doesn't exist because of all this pain and evil in the world. I have a bit of a quote from a man named Lecrae. Hope y'all enjoy this.

You look man, "Some people say that God ain't real 'cause they don't see how a good God can exist with all this evil in the world. If God is real then He should stop all this evil, 'cause He's all-powerful right? What is evil though man? It's anything that's against God. It's anything morally bad or wrong. It's murder, rape, stealing, lying, cheating. But if we want God to stop evil, do we want Him to stop it all or just a little bit of it? If He stops us from doing evil things, what about lying, or what about our evil thoughts? I mean, where do you stop, the murder level, the lying level, or the thinking level? If we want Him to stop evil, we gotta be consistent, we can't just pick and choose. That means you and I would be eliminated right? Because we think evil stuff. If that's true, we should be eliminated! But thanks be to God that Jesus stepped in to save us from our sin! Christ died for our evilness! Repent, turn to Jesus man! "

I hope this doesn't start a war. I genuinely just want some of you guys to think on this though. I understand your situation. I too have gone through loss and suffering like you. I started doubting God, and questioning why I was on this planet still. I said to myself that God probably didn't exist because a good and loving God wouldn't cause suffering like that. But, man. I didn't see the big picture. He put me through those trials and sufferings to set me up for the carrying out of His plan. It's all a part of His big plan... If anything, this would prove He exists.

Tell that to the Rwandans

[WickedWeekend]

Tell that to the Rwandans

Ah, I write about two paragraphs of something I'm very passionate about, and I'm genuinely trying to help people, and you just spit back at me implying that you don't give a fuck about what I just said. Now, I understand that what I wrote may have not have helped you, but you can at least have the courtesy of not being a douche.

[Abyssal Echo]

I used to believe.

[Hunter_Steel]

I believe, always have, always will. Even though I am Bi.

God said and promised that he would no longer interfere in our lives, that we are free to make our own choices and that he hopes we make the right choices. God also foresaw a future like this. He said that it will happen, but eventually will stop and humanity would learn to live as one and not as a separate being.

"God doesn't exist, if he did he'd stop all this war and suffering." WRONG!

God won't stop all this war and suffering because it was not HIM that caused it, it is not HE's fault that the world is in turmoil like this, it is our own doing and that means we have to clean up our own mess, not ask God to come clean it up for us. God created us, he knew what he was getting into, he's biggest mistake was humanity but he still loved us enough to sacrifice his own son to save us.

You may think that is cruel, but I see it as a parent. A parent will his/her children in small ways and be able to help when we genuinely need it. But when it comes to our own mess and we're no longer infants, our parents will tell us to clean up our own mess as they will no longer clean it up for us since we're old enough to do it.

That is what God is doing with us, he is our heavenly father, we're his children, we're now old enough to clean up our own messes and thats what we should start doing.

Remember, God only takes away someone from us if they're young when he needs a new angel :)

~Hunter

[Fight Club]

Hey! Well, I've been educated juste like you, I was told Jesus was our saviour and all, and when I started cutting, I thought just the same. Who could possibly be cruel enough to let all of us kids hurt ourselves without doin a thing? And then I had thins philosophy teach about religion, like about the fact Freud says human created god because he needed a father and all, and I think Freud is godam right ^^

[TeeGee]

No, it is silly. My family does the whole church thing and i have gone to ccd and all that but it is just silly. all of it. and i have really come to resent religions that rely on faith that have held everyone back for thousands of years instead of looking for answers that didn't come from a book written by some men in a desert.

People who tell me they believe in god or witches or ghosts or spirits .... it makes me think they are stupid.

[TeeGee]

I believe, always have, always will. Even though I am Bi.

Remember, God only takes away someone from us if they're young when he needs a new angel :)



If god needs a new angle he can just make one. If god cannot just make one then he isn't all powerful. If he isn't all powerful, then he isn't a god. If he is not a god, then he is just a different form of thinking being than us, but still limited, like a powerful alien.

I don't want to love an alien just because they are an alien. But I would be totally down with meeting an alien, so I'm totally cool whenever this alien wants to reveal himself to us so we can ask him some questions.

[PromoteJustice4Life]

Tell that to the Rwandans.

Clearly that was a sarcastic remark but yes I would love to tell that to the Rwandans. If I could, I feel it would be a great opportunity to spread hope in a time of need and teach them the word of the bible. (Oh and congrats on commenting the exact thing on Dovakhiin's post, I can see you really put thought into each and every one of your comments :yawn: )

[West Coast Sheriff]

I believe in God, and I do cut and get high time to time. I know there are hard times in life but it gets better. In the bible, a boy named Joseph is screwed over and over and even sold into slavery, it's not until years later that things begin to turn around for him. The Lord works in mysterious ways but he has a plan for everyone. That's why I pray to God for help. I'm not going to make anyone believe but I hav stories I've collected from my own life and other stories Id be willing to share. btw I've been writing a book on conversion and feel free to pm me if you have questions.

[tundravortex]

since I grew up traditionaly I beleave in the creator and the spirits like the wolf spirit is my family,my guide,my protector,ect but not really god...srry if I offended someone

[Ace of Spades]

Clearly that was a sarcastic remark but yes I would love to tell that to the Rwandans. If I could, I feel it would be a great opportunity to spread hope in a time of need and teach them the word of the bible. (Oh and congrats on commenting the exact thing on Dovakhiin's post, I can see you really put thought into each and every one of your comments :yawn: )

Don't you love how your god helps you find your keys while at the same time allowing innocent children to die painful deaths? God's great isn't it? =)

[The Awkward Artist]

I used to believe, but I'm not so sure anymore.

I mean, I used to attend church every Sunday and I even once got into a fight with an atheist kid in kindergarten. I'm not sure when I have up on god. I might not have yet. But I feel like he's left me behind completely, so I don't know. People ask me my opinion on it, but I'm not sure how to explain. I was raised being a good little church girl, but now... Well, lets just say shit's changed since then. My mom will suggest going to church, and I'll kind of not like the idea. I mean, I try and try and try to believe, to put my faith in it, but I'm kind of scared of putting hope and emotion into things any more. I always get hurt when I do, and I'm sick of that.

I guess, I'm not sure what it is I believe. I feel like if I don't believe, my family won't accept me any more. Well, I'm scared they'll accept me even less.

[WickedWeekend]

Don't you love how your god helps you find your keys while at the same time allowing innocent children to die painful deaths? God's great isn't it? =)

Look, now I'm sure this is directed at both of us, so here it is. The innocent children dying painful deaths? Now, that's sad, I'll admit that. Death is sad, just in general. But there is no avoiding it. Now, it sounds like you are referring to the Newtown massacre. That was sad in it's own right. I suggest you listen to a song called Death Has Died by Andy Mineo. Andy referrs to the shooting and speaks his heart about it. While sometimes I question why the massacres happen, I always remember that God didn't cause it. It's that teenage boy, it's the soldier shooting that other soldier, that terrorist driving the plane into that building, not God. I'm not trying to shove my beliefs down your throat, I just want you to know that God doesn't want to cause you pain. It's the evil one, Satan. Sorry if you don't want to hear this, but God bless!

[RedwoodCurtain]

I believe that there is definitely something else bigger than us, but it is not what most people think it to be. If it is, it's no God I would ever worship.

[Ace of Spades]

Look, now I'm sure this is directed at both of us, so here it is. The innocent children dying painful deaths? Now, that's sad, I'll admit that. Death is sad, just in general. But there is no avoiding it. Now, it sounds like you are referring to the Newtown massacre. That was sad in it's own right. I suggest you listen to a song called Death Has Died by Andy Mineo. Andy referrs to the shooting and speaks his heart about it. While sometimes I question why the massacres happen, I always remember that God didn't cause it. It's that teenage boy, it's the soldier shooting that other soldier, that terrorist driving the plane into that building, not God. I'm not trying to shove my beliefs down your throat, I just want you to know that God doesn't want to cause you pain. It's the evil one, Satan. Sorry if you don't want to hear this, but God bless!

I'm referring to starvation, genocide, rape, murder, ethnic cleansing, and all manners of evil and violence. If it existed, your supposed god would be capable of stopping all evil. The fact that there is still evil in the world is a testament to how evil your god is, or how non-existant your god is.
Your god would have the power to end all the suffering. Your god might not have directly caused humanity's acts of evil, but standing by while others suffer when you have the power to help makes you just as evil as the perpetrator(s).

[WickedWeekend]

I'm referring to starvation, genocide, rape, murder, ethnic cleansing, and all manners of evil and violence. If it existed, your supposed god would be capable of stopping all evil. The fact that there is still evil in the world is a testament to how evil your god is, or how non-existant your god is.
Your god would have the power to end all the suffering. Your god might not have directly caused humanity's acts of evil, but standing by while others suffer when you have the power to help makes you just as evil as the perpetrator(s).

What are trying to do? Make me become an atheist? It sure sounds like it. But listen to this. Man caused our own pain. Not God. God wanted to end all suffering by sending the flood, but did we learn? No, we keep fucking up. I suggest you listen to the song I posted and read the quote I put up, because all my points lie within them. I personally think debating religion is pointless, because no one views are going to change and no one ends up "winning." I would like to agree to disagree, since it looks like we're going absolutely no where.

[CharlieHorse]

I don't believe in a god because I don't need the false comfort provided by believing in a higher being.
It's all in your head. I'm good without it.
I like to stay practical.

[Ace of Spades]

What are trying to do? Make me become an atheist? It sure sounds like it. But listen to this. Man caused our own pain. Not God. God wanted to end all suffering by sending the flood, but did we learn? No, we keep fucking up. I suggest you listen to the song I posted and read the quote I put up, because all my points lie within them. I personally think debating religion is pointless, because no one views are going to change and no one ends up "winning." I would like to agree to disagree, since it looks like we're going absolutely no where.

Great, so according to you, your god decided to end all suffering by committing global extermination. Great guy don't ya think?
Your god could still end all suffering with a single flick of its wrist, so to speak.
Your god is an evil, diabolical, genocidal lunatic. Plain and simple.

[WickedWeekend]

Great, so according to you, your god decided to end all suffering by committing global extermination. Great guy don't ya think?
Your god could still end all suffering with a single flick of its wrist, so to speak.
Your god is an evil, diabolical, genocidal lunatic. Plain and simple.

Thank you. That makes me feel warm and fuzzy on the inside. Someone insulting Someone Who I'm very passionate about. You can't get more loving than that. I don't mind atheists really, but it's people like you that give them a bad name. You are shoving your beliefs down my throat. (ironic isn't it? Oh, how the tables have turned.) We were okay a few posts ago, but I get a bit angry when someone takes personal shots at my God.

[Ace of Spades]

Thank you. That makes me feel warm and fuzzy on the inside. Someone insulting Someone Who I'm very passionate about. You can't get more loving than that. I don't mind atheists really, but it's people like you that give them a bad name. You are shoving your beliefs down my throat. (ironic isn't it? Oh, how the tables have turned.) We were okay a few posts ago, but I get a bit angry when someone takes personal shots at my God.

Oh, wow, sorry. I'll just forget how my friends don't have equal rights because of your religion.

[WickedWeekend]

Oh, wow, sorry. I'll just forget how my friends don't have equal rights because of your religion.

Still with the comebacks, eh? I'm going to start by saying this. I'm a Christian and I'm all for gay marriage. Yes, it is stupid that gays can't marry in most states. It's very stupid, as a matter of fact. I agree with you on that. But some judgmental Christians forget gays are people too, and deserve equal rights as the rest of everyone. I'm not going to disagree, because we both support gay marriage. If that's not what you're talking about, I apologize because you were extremely vague in your point there. Oh, by the way, you completely ignored what I said last.

[Ace of Spades]

Still with the comebacks, eh? I'm going to start by saying this. I'm a Christian and I'm all for gay marriage. Yes, it is stupid that gays can't marry in most states. It's very stupid, as a matter of fact. I agree with you on that. But some judgmental Christians forget gays are people too, and deserve equal rights as the rest of everyone. I'm not going to disagree, because we both support gay marriage. If that's not what you're talking about, I apologize because you were extremely vague in your point there. Oh, by the way, you completely ignored what I said last.

I didn't ignore it. I just didn't see your point.

[WickedWeekend]

I didn't ignore it. I just didn't see your point.

Okay, fair enough. I guess we're done here now.

[Pure Innocent Nun]

I believe in god, just not religion. I also always thought that god wasn't supposed to interfere with life, but maybe that's just me.

[Lofiel]

I am the only being who exists that can control my future, simple as that.

[Hunter_Steel]

I'm referring to starvation, genocide, rape, murder, ethnic cleansing, and all manners of evil and violence. If it existed, your supposed god would be capable of stopping all evil. The fact that there is still evil in the world is a testament to how evil your god is, or how non-existant your god is.
Your god would have the power to end all the suffering. Your god might not have directly caused humanity's acts of evil, but standing by while others suffer when you have the power to help makes you just as evil as the perpetrator(s).

Yet you fail to see one little point.

God said he would no longer interfere with our lives, and the last time he interfered was when he sent Jesus to die on the cross for our sins. He loved humanity so much he would sacrifice his only begotten son for us who was also himself. He then promised that he would no longer interfere in our lives and that we are free to make our own choices.

And all this evil in the world, is humanity's doing. So God is also not the one who is going to get rid of the evil, he's being a parent and telling us we should clean up our own mess. We have the power to do it, so he is not going to do it for us.

Blaming it on Satan like most Christians do is also impossible since he is locked in hell, he has no power over us on the surface. So yes, this evil, this hurt and pain and suffering is all our own doing. So humanity is the one who has to clean up it's mess. Just like a child when they spill coffee or milk or some soda on the floor or in the car they expect someone else to clean it up after they just do a little clean up to make it look okay but the stickiness will be there regardless, and the parent will tell the child to clean up the mess as the parent is not going to do it for the kid.

~Hunter

[Lofiel]

Yet you fail to see one little point.

God said he would no longer interfere with our lives, and the last time he interfered was when he sent Jesus to die on the cross for our sins. He loved humanity so much he would sacrifice his only begotten son for us who was also himself. He then promised that he would no longer interfere in our lives and that we are free to make our own choices.

And all this evil in the world, is humanity's doing. So God is also not the one who is going to get rid of the evil, he's being a parent and telling us we should clean up our own mess. We have the power to do it, so he is not going to do it for us.

Blaming it on Satan like most Christians do is also impossible since he is locked in hell, he has no power over us on the surface. So yes, this evil, this hurt and pain and suffering is all our own doing. So humanity is the one who has to clean up it's mess. Just like a child when they spill coffee or milk or some soda on the floor or in the car they expect someone else to clean it up after they just do a little clean up to make it look okay but the stickiness will be there regardless, and the parent will tell the child to clean up the mess as the parent is not going to do it for the kid.

~Hunter I think it's really nice you can hope like that. Try not to lose that hope; few people can deal with the reality after losing their hope.

I envy you and pity you at the same time!

[Ace of Spades]

Yet you fail to see one little point.

God said he would no longer interfere with our lives, and the last time he interfered was when he sent Jesus to die on the cross for our sins. He loved humanity so much he would sacrifice his only begotten son for us who was also himself. He then promised that he would no longer interfere in our lives and that we are free to make our own choices.

And all this evil in the world, is humanity's doing. So God is also not the one who is going to get rid of the evil, he's being a parent and telling us we should clean up our own mess. We have the power to do it, so he is not going to do it for us.

Blaming it on Satan like most Christians do is also impossible since he is locked in hell, he has no power over us on the surface. So yes, this evil, this hurt and pain and suffering is all our own doing. So humanity is the one who has to clean up it's mess. Just like a child when they spill coffee or milk or some soda on the floor or in the car they expect someone else to clean it up after they just do a little clean up to make it look okay but the stickiness will be there regardless, and the parent will tell the child to clean up the mess as the parent is not going to do it for the kid.

~Hunter

If a parent saw their child playing with a razor blade, don't you think the right thing to do would be to take it away? If a parent saw their child run out into oncoming traffic, don't you think the parent should stop the child? When a parent finds out that their child is slitting their wrists, don't you think any reasonable parent would find help for their child? Do you not think it's part of a parent's job to protect they child?

[Lofiel]

If a parent saw their child playing with a razor blade, don't you think the right thing to do would be to take it away? If a parent saw their child run out into oncoming traffic, don't you think the parent should stop the child? When a parent finds out that their child is slitting their wrists, don't you think any reasonable parent would find help for their child? Do you not think it's part of a parent's job to protect they child? God has the ability to know all, and control all. He knows every bad thing that will happen, and has the power to change it.

Yet still does nothing. Quite a malevolent fellow!

It's always boggled my mind; I'd never follow a rule that said I could sell my daughter for 50 silver rupees to her rapist... but it still exists in the christian bible.

[Hunter_Steel]

We're no longer in the stage where God has to hold our hands. We're in the stage where we must be self suficient and not rely on God to fix our problems for us.

Can you imagine how he must feel, loving humanity, and as our heavenly father who loves us so much he sacrificed his son to us. But after he did that, he promised and forbid himself from touching humanity's free will.

It must hurt, to see us suffering, but having forbid himself from interfering in our lives, he can't do anything about that. Since he never broke a promise that he made to us. He's only wish for us, is to worship him, look up to him for guidance on things and also salvation and strength. But when it comes to everyday situations, he won't interfere. He is not going to interfere in a war that profains his name, he is not going to help a sinner who constantly insults him day in day out, and he is only here to now judge us according to our actions whether we go to heaven or hell.

I believe people like Hitler and all the dictators never went to heaven, they went to go visit Satan and live with his tormenting for all eternity.

~Hunter

[naglfari]

I used to but not anymore

[Croconaw]

I'm an atheist.

[PromoteJustice4Life]

Don't you love how your god helps you find your keys while at the same time allowing innocent children to die painful deaths? God's great isn't it? =)

http://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2012/07/why-does-god-allow-tragedy-and-suffering/
You should read this article. It may help you with all the questions you are thinking. Have a good day. :)

[Ace of Spades]

http://www.biblegateway.com/blog/2012/07/why-does-god-allow-tragedy-and-suffering/
You should read this article. It may help you with all the questions you are thinking. Have a good day. :)

Your god could still end suffering. The article changes nothing.

[PromoteJustice4Life]

Your god could still end suffering. The article changes nothing.

The article changes everything. Try reading it carefully, you don't seem like you understood it. Oh and have an open mind for once. You would be amazed how much you are missing out on with such a closed mind.

[Ace of Spades]

The article changes everything. Try reading it carefully, you don't seem like you understood it. Oh and have an open mind for once. You would be amazed how much you are missing out on with such a closed mind.

I'm the closed-minded one? Wow.
I read the article word for word. It changes nothing. Your god has the power to end suffering. Your god chooses not to. Your god is evil.

[The LOLer]

It's a very hard and delicate subject. we don't know why god does those things, or even put us on earth.. I believe we all have a purpose.

[StoppingTime]

Psych Ward :arrow: ROTW

[Cygnus]

I remember that I used to be catholic, wasting time I will never get back. Life as an atheist is much more relaxed. No beliefs to limit me.

[PromoteJustice4Life]

I'm the closed-minded one? Wow.
I read the article word for word. It changes nothing. Your god has the power to end suffering. Your god chooses not to. Your god is evil.

It's normal for you to have doubts like that. Maybe you will understand when you are older and wiser. I think it's probably hard for you to try and have an open mind, even right now you seem appalled that someone has a different opinion than you. Maybe open-mindedness will come to you when you are more mature. Till then, good luck with your future endeavors.

[Ace of Spades]

It's normal for you to have doubts like that. Maybe you will understand when you are older and wiser. I think it's probably hard for you to try and have an open mind, even right now you seem appalled that someone has a different opinion than you. Maybe open-mindedness will come to you when you are more mature. Till then, good luck with your future endeavors.

-removed. -Emerald Dream. If disagreeing with you means that I have a closed mind, then so be it. The reason I'm an atheist is because I opened my mind.

[Sugaree]

-removed. -Emerald Dream. If disagreeing with you means that I have a closed mind, then so be it. The reason I'm an atheist is because I opened my mind.

No, you're an atheist because you think going to church for one hour a week is boring and you got tired of it.

[HockeyLovesMe]

im mormon so ya i do :)

[Cicero]

-removed. Emerald Dream. If disagreeing with you means that I have a closed mind, then so be it. The reason I'm an atheist is because I opened my mind.

Atheists aren't open minded. If you were really open minded, you'd be agnostic or you wouldn't even say you are anything. Saying you're atheist means you believe in something, if you were open minded, you'd simply say you believe in nothing/you dont know if there is/isnt a God. But being athiest means you believe you know there's no such thing as God.

You're the one who's closed minded, you're just as closed minded as a Christian. A Christian says they believe in a God, while you say there is no such thing as a God.


Yet you fail to see one little point.

God said he would no longer interfere with our lives, and the last time he interfered was when he sent Jesus to die on the cross for our sins. He loved humanity so much he would sacrifice his only begotten son for us who was also himself. He then promised that he would no longer interfere in our lives and that we are free to make our own choices.

And all this evil in the world, is humanity's doing. So God is also not the one who is going to get rid of the evil, he's being a parent and telling us we should clean up our own mess. We have the power to do it, so he is not going to do it for us.

Blaming it on Satan like most Christians do is also impossible since he is locked in hell, he has no power over us on the surface. So yes, this evil, this hurt and pain and suffering is all our own doing. So humanity is the one who has to clean up it's mess. Just like a child when they spill coffee or milk or some soda on the floor or in the car they expect someone else to clean it up after they just do a little clean up to make it look okay but the stickiness will be there regardless, and the parent will tell the child to clean up the mess as the parent is not going to do it for the kid.

~Hunter
Wrong. God specifically says the Satan has the power to roam over the earth, that is until Jesus' second coming where he retrieves all of his followers, then the final years will occur and that is when the fight between good and evil will occur. People give satan power by not obeying God. God gave him the "title deed" to earth, that's why so much evil and bad occurs.

[Ace of Spades]

No, you're an atheist because you think going to church for one hour a week is boring and you got tired of it. And are you not also a condescending asshole for putting down religious folk just because of their religion? Really, talk about hypocrite.

You mad? Why don't you go pray about it?

I am an atheist because I don't believe in a higher power.
I am an atheist because the idea of a magical sky-daddy is completely ridiculous.
I am an atheist because I realize that sitting on my knees talking to myself isn't going to get anybody anywhere.
I am an atheist because I refuse to take part in a genocidal, xenophobic cult.
I am an atheist because finding relevance in a several thousand-year-old book is imbecilic.

P.s. The only reason a lot of churches don't offer free WI-FI is because they don't want to compete with an invisible power that actually works.

[Sugaree]

You mad? Why don't you go pray about it?

I am an atheist because I don't believe in a higher power.
I am an atheist because the idea of a magical sky-daddy is completely ridiculous.
I am an atheist because I realize that sitting on my knees talking to myself isn't going to get anybody anywhere.
I am an atheist because I refuse to take part in a genocidal, xenophobic cult.
I am an atheist because finding relevance in a several thousand-year-old book is imbecilic.

P.s. The only reason a lot of churches don't offer free WI-FI is because they don't want to compete with an invisible power that actually works.

I don't pray. Nice assumption, Ms. Atheist. Pretty edgy post you got there, I almost cut myself reading it.

[Ace of Spades]

Atheists aren't open minded. If you were really open minded, you'd be agnostic or you wouldn't even say you are anything. Saying you're atheist means you believe in something, if you were open minded, you'd simply say you believe in nothing/you dont know if there is/isnt a God. But being athiest means you believe you know there's no such thing as God.

You're the one who's closed minded, you're just as closed minded as a Christian. A Christian says they believe in a God, while you say there is no such thing as a God.

atheist |ˈāTHēˌist| noun
a person who does not believe in the existence of God or gods.

[CharlieHorse]

You mad? Why don't you go pray about it?

I am an atheist because I don't believe in a higher power.
I am an atheist because the idea of a magical sky-daddy is completely ridiculous.
I am an atheist because I realize that sitting on my knees talking to myself isn't going to get anybody anywhere.
I am an atheist because I refuse to take part in a genocidal, xenophobic cult.
I am an atheist because finding relevance in a several thousand-year-old book is imbecilic.

P.s. The only reason a lot of churches don't offer free WI-FI is because they don't want to compete with an invisible power that actually works.


I don't pray. Nice assumption, Ms. Atheist. Pretty edgy post you got there, I almost cut myself reading it.

Both of you calm down :/

[Ace of Spades]

I don't pray. Nice assumption, Ms. Atheist. Pretty edgy post you got there, I almost cut myself reading it.

What a shame

Both of you calm down :/

Fine


-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

[Jess]

I don't believe in a god; I'm an atheist (duh). I've long had my doubts on how a god could exist.

I am an atheist because I don't believe in a higher power.
I am an atheist because the idea of a magical sky-daddy is completely ridiculous.
I am an atheist because I realize that sitting on my knees talking to myself isn't going to get anybody anywhere.
I am an atheist because I refuse to take part in a genocidal, xenophobic cult.
I am an atheist because finding relevance in a several thousand-year-old book is imbecilic.

Basically these are reasons why I'm an atheist as well.

[Cicero]

atheist |ˈāTHēˌist| noun
a person who does not believe in the existence of God or gods.

I already knew that. But believing in that makes you just as closed minded as a Christian.

Agnostic
Noun
A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena;...

^That shows open mindedness

[Twilly F. Sniper]

No I do not. I find it somewhat easy to explain the existence of everything; but nobody has the capacity to even try to make sense of simple concepts.

Plus, I believe
1. It's too simple to be true
2. If he was real, he wouldn't give a fuck like in religious literature
3. and, the final point, that he woulld be absolutely impossible.

Also, I think that a force caused it. I think that they could believe that is god. What they'd say is true, however, contradictory to holy books, because "God" has dialogue.

[Origami]

I already knew that. But believing in that makes you just as closed minded as a Christian.

Agnostic
Noun
A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena;...

^That shows open mindedness

Alright. Quit with the generalizations. Neither Atheists nor Christians are close-minded. It's fuck wits who believe their beliefs are "right" and everyone else's are "wrong" that are close-minded.

As a Christian I don't shun others for their beliefs. Or, as others on this forum do, consider them blind, stupid, wrong, or lost. My way isn't right for everyone, nor is their's right for me. You noticed this thread is a question. A yes or fucking no answer. Not a debate on who is better or what's right.

Have a nice day and praise be to Jesus.

[StoppingTime]

You mad? Why don't you go pray about it?

Just...wow


I am an atheist because I don't believe in a higher power.

Lovely.


I am an atheist because the idea of a magical sky-daddy is completely ridiculous.

Wow, your point came across much better because you said "magical sky-daddy." How insanely witty of you.


I am an atheist because I realize that sitting on my knees talking to myself isn't going to get anybody anywhere.

You're right. Prayer doesn't stop disease; prayer doesn't stop death, etc.. People do that. Religions mandate different kinds of prayer for different reasons. So before throwing some blanket statement about it, actually know what you're talking about. Most religious people don't just pray and wait for the world to come to them.


I am an atheist because I refuse to take part in a genocidal, xenophobic cult.
Do you see the vast majority of Christians, Jews, Muslims, Buddhists, Hindus, Sikhs, and virtually any religion doing that? Neither do I.


I am an atheist because finding relevance in a several thousand-year-old book is imbecilic.


Religion is not that simple. Ideas and principles and religious texts are still relevant today. Sure, not all of it is, but this isn't math - one thing cannot prove the entire thing (i.e. the bible or any religious text in this example)


P.s. The only reason a lot of churches don't offer free WI-FI is because they don't want to compete with an invisible power that actually works.


Oh, big sky daddy are you funny. Do you see what I did there.



And can we all please refrain from backseat modding, name calling, etc? Thanks

[Jess]

Alright. Quit with the generalizations. Neither Atheists nor Christians are close-minded. It's fuck wits who believe their beliefs are "right" and everyone else's are "wrong" that are close-minded.

This. How are atheists (and Christians) closed minded? Geez. As Origami already said, it's those who think they're right and everyone wrong who are closed-minded.

[teen.jpg]

No, but I believe in the holy donut. He watches over me.

[World Eater]

I cannot believe what I cannot see. I believe that we live, we suffer, we die. As for God(s), well I don't need them to feel comfort. I have music and people for that, among other things. I understand there are multiple religions each with a different prophet or beliefs. Everyone will argue and fight for their religions, when I feel like there is so much more to life than that. There is a part of me that must ask though...what if I chose the wrong religion? What if I chose the wrong path and am sent into a pit of fire, or a dead and unhappy afterlife? It ate away at my mind as a child, so I chose not to believe. In my mind, i believed that if I chose not to believe in an afterlife, maybe nothing will happen to me...my body just...expires. I really don't believe in anything tho. Not the news, the textbooks, or anything else. Just myself.

[Jae Ostraes]

I Do, If You Need Help, Talk To Him, Not Just Wait There For An Answer.
You Need To Work With It,. God Does Respond And Help If You Will Ask Him, He Doesn't Want To Control Your Life, So He Waits Your Move If You Want Him To Help You,. Things Like That,.

If God Does not Exist, Where All This Things Came From? , Extracting From Big Bang Theory Or Any Theory,The Universe Was Once A Dust Or A Gas, In Deep Thinking, Where Does That Gas or Dirt Came From? Have You Ever Think About It?

~
Yea, That's My Own Opinion,. :)

And Christians Aren't Close Minded!


-merged double post. -Emerald Dream

[naglfari]

I already knew that. But believing in that makes you just as closed minded as a Christian.

Agnostic
Noun
A person who believes that nothing is known or can be known of the existence or nature of God or of anything beyond material phenomena;...

^That shows open mindedness

moses and abraham never existed and jesus' story is ripped off from horus.

when you find that out, you have to be reaaaaaaaaaaaaally open minded to stay even agnostic. like, open minded in the same sort of way conspiracy theorists and people on shrooms are open minded. odin is more likely to be real.

[Jess]

If God Does not Exist, Where All This Things Came From? , Extracting From Big Bang Theory Or Any Theory,The Universe Was Once A Dust Or A Gas, In Deep Thinking, Where Does That Gas or Dirt Came From? Have You Ever Think About It?

Where would God come from?

[Stronk Serb]

To sum up my religious beliefs:
No Gods, nor kings. Only Man.

[Sugaree]

To sum up my religious beliefs:
No Gods, nor kings. Only Man.

You ripped that off from Bioshock.

[Stronk Serb]

You ripped that off from Bioshock.


I plaid the game, those two sentences pretty much explain what I believe in. In Mankind as a greater power. Where we, as men can accomplish everything.

[randomnessqueen]

i absolutely believe in god.
the idea that its a personal deity, a 'guy in the sky', isnt at all right, its not a human.
its a formless being. also, its something beyond our world, that wants for our spiritual growth, so why would it bother with shortlived pleasures in pains.

[Cicero]

moses and abraham never existed and jesus' story is ripped off from horus.

when you find that out, you have to be reaaaaaaaaaaaaally open minded to stay even agnostic. like, open minded in the same sort of way conspiracy theorists and people on shrooms are open minded. odin is more likely to be real.

There are historical evidences of Abraham and Moses. Muslims even believe that Abraham existed. Also, there is no denying that Jesus existed. Jesus did in fact exist, but it's controversial whether he was the messiah or not. They even know, for a fact, what he looked like. Evidence? The shroud of Turin.

[Jae Ostraes]

Where would God come from?

We can only partially comprehend the notion of God's existence. To do so, we must use human concepts to speak of God: "without beginning or end"; "eternal"; "infinite", etc. The Bible says that He has always existed: " . . . even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God" (Psalm 90:2). And, "Your throne is established from of old; Thou art from everlasting" (Psalm 93:2). Quite simply, God has no beginning and no end. So, where did God come from? He didn't. He always was.

Eternity is a term that we finite creatures use to express the concept of something that has no end -- and/or no beginning. God has no beginning or end... He is outside the realm of time.

[naglfari]

There are historical evidences of Abraham and Moses. Muslims even believe that Abraham existed. Also, there is no denying that Jesus existed. Jesus did in fact exist, but it's controversial whether he was the messiah or not. They even know, for a fact, what he looked like. Evidence? The shroud of Turin.

all the historical evidence says those 2 didn't exist at all, or at the least moses definitely didn't.

whether jesus was a real person or not and whether the shroud of turin really is what it supposedly is, is irrelevant, because the story around jesus, with the 3 kings and the days in the desert with the devil tempting him, etc, is ripped off from the egyptian god horus.

[Cicero]

all the historical evidence says those 2 didn't exist at all, or at the least moses definitely didn't.

whether jesus was a real person or not and whether the shroud of turin really is what it supposedly is, is irrelevant, because the story around jesus, with the 3 kings and the days in the desert with the devil tempting him, etc, is ripped off from the egyptian god horus.

Judaism was around before Egyptians. If anything, Egyptians took things from the Old Testament and made it their own

[naglfari]

judaism is only about 4000 years old. ancient egypt was older and the story of horus started getting told about 5000 years ago.

[StoppingTime]

judaism is only about 4000 years old. ancient egypt was older and the story of horus started getting told about 5000 years ago.

Judaism (according to the Jewish calendar) began 5,773 years ago, actually.

[TonyBlack]

The faith I was raised in is Catholic, and I do still go to church on Sunday, and do all the other stuff.

BUT, I have recently been thinking about what 'God' really is/means.

God is life. God is way too...vast/mighty/removed from avg humans to ever hope to make any connection to. Jesus was sent as a guide to explain how to one day reconnect with God.