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IamGinger
December 5th, 2012, 03:50 PM
Im uncircumcised and extremely self-conscious about it. I'm afraid to let any girl into my pants because all I ever hear is "oh its so gross" and "I feel sorry for anyone who is Uncircumcised". I've been know to worry or over-think things. If you have an assurance it is appreciated. :confused::(
Sph2015
December 5th, 2012, 06:33 PM
Your fine. Anyone who cares doesn't matter. Don't sweat it.
xMr.CoolGuyx
December 5th, 2012, 06:38 PM
Whoever is saying that, is stupid and/or probably still a virgin. So don't listen to them.
trystan10
December 5th, 2012, 07:05 PM
Trust me any girl who wont sleep with you cuz your uncut isnt worth sleeping with
crumbs
December 5th, 2012, 07:56 PM
That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. Tell her her breasts are disgusting because she hasn't had implants, it's basically the same thing! (and equally as absurd)
Luke91
December 5th, 2012, 09:12 PM
It is easy to say don't worry about it if you have never been there. I was the only boy in my gym class with a foreskin and I worried about it a lot. I told myself don't worry but I still did. Finally I got circumcised which fixed the problem.
PinkFloyd
December 5th, 2012, 09:26 PM
You know, you actually got the long end of the stick. Circumcision takes away 70 percent of the nerve endings, causing less feeling during sex. Any girl that thinks it's gross isnt worth it. But really I envy you. I wish i was uncut.
Abyssal Echo
December 5th, 2012, 09:31 PM
It is easy to say don't worry about it if you have never been there. I was the only boy in my gym class with a foreskin and I worried about it a lot. I told myself don't worry but I still did. Finally I got circumcised which fixed the problem.
I'm uncut and have never had any complaints about it from anyone I've been with. ur fine dude after all its about you the person not your equipment. and to you Luke91 getting Circumsized seems like a very extreme way to fit in.
FergusDunn
December 5th, 2012, 10:07 PM
Im uncircumcised and extremely self-conscious about it. I'm afraid to let any girl into my pants because all I ever hear is "oh its so gross" and "I feel sorry for anyone who is Uncircumcised". I've been know to worry or over-think things. If you have an assurance it is appreciated. :confused::(
I guess its maybe they usually see cut guys - but anyone who says that is not worth bothering with really - You are a nature intended - so carry on.
IamGinger
December 6th, 2012, 12:39 AM
Thanks everyone. You have made me feel better. I really appreciate it.
reddie
December 6th, 2012, 12:45 AM
You can also throw out a few softball questions and ask them in a roundabout way. Before you pull it out ask them if they've ever seen foreskin, or what they think of it.
You could also start up a second yahoo or AIM name and ask them what they think of circumcision or foreskin that way, but that might be a bit weird to do it anonymously.
jockeyboy97
December 6th, 2012, 01:01 AM
I'm circumcised and for me it's just the way my dick is , but I have never thought that a guy uncut had a strange looking dick. My very close friend is uncut and I have experimented with him and have seen his dick up close. No problem so if a girl says something she is not worth being with.
codyF13
December 6th, 2012, 12:53 PM
Dude, I am uncut. totally cool. U r fine.
ThatGuy69
December 30th, 2012, 10:55 AM
There is no problem more or less my whole school is uncut, I know this because they laugh at the cut ones and most of the school aren't virgins
tovaris
December 30th, 2012, 11:28 AM
there is nothing wrong with being uncut, im uncut my self and have never been slowed down by this, it os how the penis is, dont wory
(beside most guys are uncut, at leest here)
sdude
December 30th, 2012, 11:34 AM
I'm the reverse...was born in US and now am in Canada....There are far more boys in gym that are uncut than cut....and yeah, I WISH I had NEVER been circumcised...I love jacking off a guy with skin (have several times, it's cool...)no lube required!!!lol
reddie
December 31st, 2012, 11:14 PM
Some people choose to think of it as being "intact" or "whole."
"Uncircumcised" or "uncut" is...in my opinion...a backwards way of thinking of it. If you're typing a document and you make a mistake, you "undo" what you did. To "uncircumcise" something infers that you were once circumcised but "became" uncircumcised.
I'm not saying you HAVE to think of it like this, but it's a different way to spin it.
Axw_JD
January 1st, 2013, 02:14 AM
You are actually very lucky for being uncircumcised. Your penis is still intact and in full working condition, with all its nerves working. Unlike us cut guys, who had our dicks crippled with reduced sensitivity and reduced pleasure.
I'm jelly of anyone who is uncut. Being cut isn't THAT bad, but compared to being uncut it sucks.
Leon03
January 1st, 2013, 08:11 AM
In Europe it's the other way round. Cut is minority. My friend was circumcised during last summer-brake. He was less scared of the surgery than of the others reaction when they find out (especially what girls think about it). I'm still the only one who knows and he is still very unconfident about it.
He is already in panic because swimming lessons start in February and we will have to change together.
It does not help your problem though. Thought it feels good for you to know, not to be the only one with this kind of problem.
dparrott
January 1st, 2013, 08:37 AM
What is the benifit of being circumcised? Nothing! Hey think of it this way when you are uncut you will save money because you won't have to buy lube and also get the circumcision done! If you are uncut you also get more pleasure when doing it!
tbonehntr
January 1st, 2013, 11:39 AM
i feel the same way, but marching band has brought up a very Painful Problem, when the foreskin(underside) and the head get red, inflamed, and itchy/painful. im getting cut cuz of it, and really i think that will solve my self esteem problems cuz 'round here most are cut and make fun of uncut.
reddie
January 1st, 2013, 10:10 PM
In Europe it's the other way round. Cut is minority. My friend was circumcised during last summer-brake. He was less scared of the surgery than of the others reaction when they find out (especially what girls think about it). I'm still the only one who knows and he is still very unconfident about it.
He is already in panic because swimming lessons start in February and we will have to change together.
It does not help your problem though. Thought it feels good for you to know, not to be the only one with this kind of problem.
Just wondering, but why was your friend circumcised? If it was for medical reasons, did he get many professional opinions? I know I would if I was him.
If he changes with a towel around his waist, he'll be fine. As far as showers, no one should comment...if they see and comment in my area of the world, they'd get yelled at for looking.
hamtown
January 2nd, 2013, 12:56 AM
Anyone who syas its gross is wrong! its the natrua state for guys, but cut r uncut, both are ok, so don;t be ashamed!
Tylermx27
January 2nd, 2013, 01:08 AM
Yeah man it doesn't matter
Leon03
January 2nd, 2013, 07:44 AM
Just wondering, but why was your friend circumcised? If it was for medical reasons, did he get many professional opinions? I know I would if I was him.
If he changes with a towel around his waist, he'll be fine. As far as showers, no one should comment...if they see and comment in my area of the world, they'd get yelled at for looking.
He was circumcised for medical reasons. Sure the towel thing would help but he is yet scared anyone could get to know. So far we do not shower after PE in school as we have to hurry for the bus and there is no time to.
alex99Ro
January 2nd, 2013, 08:58 AM
I'm circumcised and I'd like to see how it is to be uncut.It's the same pleasure,so don't worry for girls.Anyway,I heared that for uncut guys,it is quite painful for the first time when making sex
Nicc
January 2nd, 2013, 09:05 AM
It seriously doesn't matter....just to re-hash what everyone else has said
GuillaumeBordeaux
January 2nd, 2013, 10:11 AM
Be happy your parents left you intact! Circumcision takes away the most sensitive part of the penis and leaves you with little better than a broom handle in between your legs. If you're circumcised, your penis head dries out and gets rough to the touch and can make a woman's vagina sore after arduous intercourse. What you have was designed by nature to be more enjoyable and comfortable!
reddie
January 3rd, 2013, 03:14 PM
I'm circumcised and I'd like to see how it is to be uncut.It's the same pleasure,so don't worry for girls.Anyway,I heared that for uncut guys,it is quite painful for the first time when making sex
I don't think this is true.
alex99Ro
January 3rd, 2013, 04:17 PM
I don't think this is true.
I just read it somewhere.
Shadowboy47
January 3rd, 2013, 05:09 PM
Dont worry about it. Being uncut is completely normal. Some guys are cut...others like you and I arent. Its nothing to be ashamed of. Dont worry about what the girls think. If they think its gross than they dont deserve you. Be proud of being uncut ;-)
CuriousityKills
January 3rd, 2013, 05:18 PM
I totally feel your pain. What makes it worse is that I can't pull my foreskin back so it's even weirder!
tterb
January 3rd, 2013, 05:21 PM
You'll be fine!
Arsenalfan123
January 10th, 2013, 04:01 PM
Don't be embarssed
MickeyMouse13
January 10th, 2013, 04:20 PM
There is no need to be embarrassed about yourself... In mean I don't think that girls would pay that much attention to if you are circumcised or not... I'm not and most people I know aren't, girls have never commented about it, and if they do, then I think that they may be the wrong girl for you :)
teen.jpg
January 10th, 2013, 04:39 PM
If that is a common response, I can think of only 2 reasons;
1. You aren't old enough to even be having sex, let alone those girls. Or mature enough.
2. You are trying with the wrong girls.
NudistKid
January 11th, 2013, 05:10 AM
A girl should love you for who you are they wont care if your not cut it shouldnt matter to them
Buck
March 3rd, 2013, 04:08 AM
Trust me any girl who wont sleep with you cuz your uncut isnt worth sleeping with
I so agree with you trystan!
Noel2009
March 3rd, 2013, 11:52 AM
It's great being uncut man, show it off.
ULeon
March 27th, 2013, 06:47 PM
being uncircumcised is never something that stops anyone from wanting to go down on someone. Do not worry about it, you could always pull your foreskin back before exposing, but honestly it does not matter.
jack_69
March 27th, 2013, 07:17 PM
I 'm uncut!! And I am happy the way my penis looks!!! Being uncut makes it more pleasurable during masturbation/sex!
rodriguez_miker
March 27th, 2013, 07:19 PM
I am uncut and it hasn't been a problem for me. I just start making out and kissing my girls neck until she says for us to do it. Then I put the condominium n myself and go for it. The first time we had sex she didn't even know. She didn't care after because she enjoyed it. You are good bro
Kjcj
March 27th, 2013, 07:32 PM
I totally feel your pain. What makes it worse is that I can't pull my foreskin back so it's even weirder!
Why cant you pull your foreskin back?
Toomanygigawatts
March 27th, 2013, 09:25 PM
No one should say that unless you don't clean it regularly.
TapDancer
March 27th, 2013, 09:29 PM
Having a foreskin can make your head more sensitive. Thats absurd, around half the wrolds population is circumsised. Don't even worry about it. All the partners I have been with weren't circumsised, and, I don't even think they would have cared!
blink
March 28th, 2013, 10:05 AM
If there was something wrong with having a fore skin we wouldn't be born with one.
Jamesison
March 28th, 2013, 11:59 AM
Be proud of what you have... Dont worry about it...
Poopie
March 28th, 2013, 12:30 PM
That's really stupid and if they keep on saying crap like that then you are too good for them and deserves someone who is better and loves the way ur penis is. But if you want to change it go get it circumcised
thisisben
March 28th, 2013, 02:50 PM
is circumcision a popular thing in the states then I dont really know but it seems over here in england , i dont really know anyone who is !.
Zanman11
March 28th, 2013, 08:07 PM
Uncut is wayyyy better!!
Jasperf
March 28th, 2013, 10:26 PM
Im uncircumcised and extremely self-conscious about it. I'm afraid to let any girl into my pants because all I ever hear is "oh its so gross" and "I feel sorry for anyone who is Uncircumcised". I've been know to worry or over-think things. If you have an assurance it is appreciated. :confused::(
remember that uncut is the natural way, and the way your penis is ment to be haha. and to be honest anyone that says ew to your penis isnt worth seeing it :) keep smiling :D
DeepFriedFat
March 29th, 2013, 01:50 PM
I find that so odd! In my entire year i only know of one guy who is uncircumcised in he is often ridiculed for it! worst case scenario you can just get a late circumcision whenever you like.
brandon1995
March 29th, 2013, 04:25 PM
I'm not sure the purpose of this thread is to be another one where guys say how much they love their own status. But rather support for a guy who is uncut and embarassed which is a real problem for some.
VirtualGuy012
March 29th, 2013, 05:05 PM
I don't think girls will mind. Don't worry about it
PaPa
March 29th, 2013, 06:11 PM
Your fine. Anyone who cares doesn't matter. Don't sweat it.
Agree with you!
sparkles
March 29th, 2013, 06:17 PM
I'm not sure the purpose of this thread is to be another one where guys say how much they love their own status. But rather support for a guy who is uncut and embarassed which is a real problem for some.
There's no need to be embarrassed. Cut or Uncut, you are how you are. If you don't like it, change it! Do foreskin restoration or get circumcised. There's no use in blaming anyone. There's also no better way, what is better for you is what is better, no matter which way that is. Barring bad hygiene, both are just as clean and free from disease. Both can look pretty (nohomo). Be happy!
brandon1995
March 29th, 2013, 06:19 PM
There's no need to be embarrassed. Cut or Uncut, you are how you are. If you don't like it, change it! Do foreskin restoration or get circumcised. There's no use in blaming anyone. There's also no better way, what is better for you is what is better, no matter which way that is. Barring bad hygiene, both are just as clean and free from disease. Both can look pretty (nohomo). Be happy!
Good points all of them.
SniperKing
May 24th, 2013, 01:14 AM
Thats stupid so untrue
Jasperf
May 26th, 2013, 10:02 PM
Thats stupid so untrue
I agree!!!
Josh Schlacter
June 18th, 2013, 10:02 AM
Having a foreskin can make your head more sensitive. Thats absurd, around half the wrolds population is circumsised. Don't even worry about it. All the partners I have been with weren't circumsised, and, I don't even think they would have cared!
The loss of a foreskin makes your penis less sensitive. Proven fact.
Abstract
WHAT'S KNOWN ON THE SUBJECT? AND WHAT DOES THE STUDY ADD?: The sensitivity of the foreskin and its importance in erogenous sensitivity is widely debated and controversial. This is part of the actual public debate on circumcision for non-medical reason. Today some studies on the effect of circumcision on sexual function are available. However they vary widely in outcome. The present study shows in a large cohort of men, based on self-assessment, that the foreskin has erogenous sensitivity. It is shown that the foreskin is more sensitive than the uncircumcised glans mucosa, which means that after circumcision genital sensitivity is lost. In the debate on clitoral surgery the proven loss of sensitivity has been the strongest argument to change medical practice. In the present study there is strong evidence on the erogenous sensitivity of the foreskin. This knowledge hopefully can help doctors and patients in their decision on circumcision for non-medical reason.
OBJECTIVES:
To test the hypothesis that sensitivity of the foreskin is a substantial part of male penile sensitivity. To determine the effects of male circumcision on penile sensitivity in a large sample.
SUBJECTS AND METHODS:
The study aimed at a sample size of ≈1000 men. Given the intimate nature of the questions and the intended large sample size, the authors decided to create an online survey. Respondents were recruited by means of leaflets and advertising.
RESULTS:
The analysis sample consisted of 1059 uncircumcised and 310 circumcised men. For the glans penis, circumcised men reported decreased sexual pleasure and lower orgasm intensity. They also stated more effort was required to achieve orgasm, and a higher percentage of them experienced unusual sensations (burning, prickling, itching, or tingling and numbness of the glans penis). For the penile shaft a higher percentage of circumcised men described discomfort and pain, numbness and unusual sensations. In comparison to men circumcised before puberty, men circumcised during adolescence or later indicated less sexual pleasure at the glans penis, and a higher percentage of them reported discomfort or pain and unusual sensations at the penile shaft.
CONCLUSIONS:
This study confirms the importance of the foreskin for penile sensitivity, overall sexual satisfaction, and penile functioning. Furthermore, this study shows that a higher percentage of circumcised men experience discomfort or pain and unusual sensations as compared with the uncircumcised population. Before circumcision without medical indication, adult men, and parents considering circumcision of their sons, should be informed of the importance of the foreskin in male sexuality.
Joe7
June 18th, 2013, 10:50 AM
Not sure if its more pleasurable or not, my orgasm is the only orgasm I'm ever going to feel so I don't really care, feels good enough to me! (I'm not circumcised)
ChrisFromKY
June 18th, 2013, 01:59 PM
I've had 3 gf's and they didn't have a problem with me being uncut. One actually liked it better than cut. She loved watching the skin slide up and down over the head. You'll be fine.
Ethan15
June 18th, 2013, 05:44 PM
It is fine, any girl who says that is not worth any of your time.
crazyBoyjJ
June 18th, 2013, 06:29 PM
Im uncircumcised and extremely self-conscious about it. I'm afraid to let any girl into my pants because all I ever hear is "oh its so gross" and "I feel sorry for anyone who is Uncircumcised". I've been know to worry or over-think things. If you have an assurance it is appreciated. :confused::(
I don't have a girlfried but if I were to show a girl my Dick I think I would be embarassed too
Montreal1993
June 19th, 2013, 12:42 AM
I'm also uncut. Girls some anyway say it feels better.
Extreme586
June 19th, 2013, 01:01 AM
Probably one of the hottest guys in my school is uncircumcised. Believe me it won't stop women and I think it's kinda cool actually. Absolutely nothing to be self conscious about.
TapDancer
June 19th, 2013, 03:20 AM
The loss of a foreskin makes your penis less sensitive. Proven fact.
Abstract
WHAT'S KNOWN ON THE SUBJECT? AND WHAT DOES THE STUDY ADD?: The sensitivity of the foreskin and its importance in erogenous sensitivity is widely debated and controversial. This is part of the actual public debate on circumcision for non-medical reason. Today some studies on the effect of circumcision on sexual function are available. However they vary widely in outcome. The present study shows in a large cohort of men, based on self-assessment, that the foreskin has erogenous sensitivity. It is shown that the foreskin is more sensitive than the uncircumcised glans mucosa, which means that after circumcision genital sensitivity is lost. In the debate on clitoral surgery the proven loss of sensitivity has been the strongest argument to change medical practice. In the present study there is strong evidence on the erogenous sensitivity of the foreskin. This knowledge hopefully can help doctors and patients in their decision on circumcision for non-medical reason.
OBJECTIVES:
To test the hypothesis that sensitivity of the foreskin is a substantial part of male penile sensitivity. To determine the effects of male circumcision on penile sensitivity in a large sample.
SUBJECTS AND METHODS:
The study aimed at a sample size of ≈1000 men. Given the intimate nature of the questions and the intended large sample size, the authors decided to create an online survey. Respondents were recruited by means of leaflets and advertising.
RESULTS:
The analysis sample consisted of 1059 uncircumcised and 310 circumcised men. For the glans penis, circumcised men reported decreased sexual pleasure and lower orgasm intensity. They also stated more effort was required to achieve orgasm, and a higher percentage of them experienced unusual sensations (burning, prickling, itching, or tingling and numbness of the glans penis). For the penile shaft a higher percentage of circumcised men described discomfort and pain, numbness and unusual sensations. In comparison to men circumcised before puberty, men circumcised during adolescence or later indicated less sexual pleasure at the glans penis, and a higher percentage of them reported discomfort or pain and unusual sensations at the penile shaft.
CONCLUSIONS:
This study confirms the importance of the foreskin for penile sensitivity, overall sexual satisfaction, and penile functioning. Furthermore, this study shows that a higher percentage of circumcised men experience discomfort or pain and unusual sensations as compared with the uncircumcised population. Before circumcision without medical indication, adult men, and parents considering circumcision of their sons, should be informed of the importance of the foreskin in male sexuality.
My point in this thread, is that there is nothing to be ashamed about if you are uncircumcised. Look, it is debated about sexual pleasure, but, I agree with this study. I too believe that uncircumcised men experience greater pleasure. So, what is the point in quoting me? Also, you provided a study. However, as there is no real measure of sexual pleasure, or for that matter, scale, how can you PROVE that being uncircumcised is better? You can't. There are studies, but no proof. As you can not prove such a thing, as 99.9% of males will have biased opinions. For example, it is clear your view on this matter. You views suggest your personal affiliation with the matter, therefore, you are biased.
Josh Schlacter
June 19th, 2013, 04:23 AM
My point in this thread, is that there is nothing to be ashamed about if you are uncircumcised. Look, it is debated about sexual pleasure, but, I agree with this study. I too believe that uncircumcised men experience greater pleasure. So, what is the point in quoting me? Also, you provided a study. However, as there is no real measure of sexual pleasure, or for that matter, scale, how can you PROVE that being uncircumcised is better? You can't. There are studies, but no proof. As you can not prove such a thing, as 99.9% of males will have biased opinions. For example, it is clear your view on this matter. You views suggest your personal affiliation with the matter, therefore, you are biased.
Well if you agree with this study, why did you say? "Having a foreskin can make your head more sensitive. Thats absurd".
My point at quoting you was because you stated that having a foreskin doesn't make a penis more sensitive. When in actual fact it does. And yes their is a measurement of pleasure since they are retrieved by nerve cells and pain/pleasure receptors. There is strong evidence of biological connections between the neurochemical pathways used for the perception of both pain and pleasure, as well as other psychological rewards. Pain can be measured in units of Dels. Which i learnt this in my Human Biology 3AB course.
Nothing will be absolutely better in every way, but there may be more and better aspects that belong to certain criteria.
Yes, males opinions may be biased, but facts are not and facts HAVE been made whether you like it or not. I have done my research which you obviously wouldn't of otherwise you wouldn't of quoted me back. And how can there be studies with no proof???? what the heck are you talking about. What do you think happens when one studies something or one tests a hypothesis. In case you didn't know, evidence is gathered supporting the hypothesis. Which evidence directly correlates to proof.
My views are biased, i strictly only stated "The loss of a foreskin makes your penis less sensitive. Proven fact. " And the rest was a copied case study based off the internet; where i might add that there are many many more others out there. Where as your views are also biased and to accuse me solely means you're also a hypocrite.
Why did you change your implied statement from saying
"Having a foreskin can make your head more sensitive. Thats absurd, around half the wrolds population is circumsised."
to saying
"I agree with this study. I too believe that uncircumcised men experience greater pleasure."
Can you contradict yourself anymore.
TapDancer
June 19th, 2013, 06:01 AM
My original post is not grammatically correct and clear, yes, that is my error. I was stating that: Having a foreskin can make your head more sensitive and that it is absurd to suggest that it would be "socially unacceptable" to have a foreskin, because half the worlds population is circumcised, leaving the other half not. Yes, there are units to measure pain and pleasure (Del), however, if I was to break my arm in a certain place, and you do the same, you could not say our levels of pain are the same, because, being different people we will have different level of tolerance to certain pains, therefore, it is not an accurate way of measuring. It can provide us with data, but, it will not be 100% accurate. The same goes for pleasure. During orgasms, you might experience a higher or lower level of sensation to me, because we are different people. Even if we both have foreskins or not, that is only one factor out of many.
Now, what you haven't quite grasped, is that facts are PROVEN to be real. People's interpretation of Del unit of feeling, is evidence, but not fact, as the information can not be held completely accurately, because the information is pure interpretation. But, you seem to be just so convinced that it is a proven fact, so, I invite you to provide me with such proof. And I don't mean evidence from a study, which you have clearly copied and pasted, I want actual proof with an explanation and all. Also, I am not a hypocrite, because, I did not claim my information to be a fact, I said "Having a foreskin can make your head more sensitive" I said CAN MAKE, I did not say "Definitely makes". That study concluded that foreskins were important for sensitivity based on the data it was given. But because its data is not 100%, it's conclusion can not be held in the same way. Yes, my views are biased, so yes, I did suggest my input, biased as it is, but it did not say that it was fact. You are stating that your information is fact, but unless you can tell me you have had enough experience (you know what I mean) as an uncircumcised male, then became circumcised and compared the difference, you can not conclusively know.
swimBoy
June 19th, 2013, 06:12 AM
Imamginger: I sorta feel the same way as you, sorta scared what the girl will say when she first sees my tool. I thought all tools were the same until I first changed in a pool locker room. Some people think uncut is funny looking, I personally think it looks cool, as I'm sure every cut boy thinks his is cool. It is after all how we are.
When a girl does finially see my tool I just know I will be very very nervous.
ryanhas4skin
June 19th, 2013, 07:34 PM
Abstract
WHAT'S KNOWN ON THE SUBJECT? AND WHAT DOES THE STUDY ADD?: The sensitivity of the foreskin and its importance in erogenous sensitivity is widely debated and controversial. This is part of the actual public debate on circumcision for non-medical reason. Today some studies on the effect of circumcision on sexual function are available. However they vary widely in outcome. The present study shows in a large cohort of men, based on self-assessment, that the foreskin has erogenous sensitivity. It is shown that the foreskin is more sensitive than the uncircumcised glans mucosa, which means that after circumcision genital sensitivity is lost. In the debate on clitoral surgery the proven loss of sensitivity has been the strongest argument to change medical practice. In the present study there is strong evidence on the erogenous sensitivity of the foreskin. This knowledge hopefully can help doctors and patients in their decision on circumcision for non-medical reason.
OBJECTIVES:
To test the hypothesis that sensitivity of the foreskin is a substantial part of male penile sensitivity. To determine the effects of male circumcision on penile sensitivity in a large sample.
SUBJECTS AND METHODS:
The study aimed at a sample size of ≈1000 men. Given the intimate nature of the questions and the intended large sample size, the authors decided to create an online survey. Respondents were recruited by means of leaflets and advertising.
RESULTS:
The analysis sample consisted of 1059 uncircumcised and 310 circumcised men. For the glans penis, circumcised men reported decreased sexual pleasure and lower orgasm intensity. They also stated more effort was required to achieve orgasm, and a higher percentage of them experienced unusual sensations (burning, prickling, itching, or tingling and numbness of the glans penis). For the penile shaft a higher percentage of circumcised men described discomfort and pain, numbness and unusual sensations. In comparison to men circumcised before puberty, men circumcised during adolescence or later indicated less sexual pleasure at the glans penis, and a higher percentage of them reported discomfort or pain and unusual sensations at the penile shaft.
CONCLUSIONS:
This study confirms the importance of the foreskin for penile sensitivity, overall sexual satisfaction, and penile functioning. Furthermore, this study shows that a higher percentage of circumcised men experience discomfort or pain and unusual sensations as compared with the uncircumcised population. Before circumcision without medical indication, adult men, and parents considering circumcision of their sons, should be informed of the importance of the foreskin in male sexuality.
I love that people are having an actual scientific discussion on here. That's awesome.
Score one for science!
JRwulf64
June 19th, 2013, 07:37 PM
My bestfriend is uncircumcised and was in the same situation as you but you just have to remember all the benefits you have over people who are circumcised. Personally i think uncircumcised penis looks cooler
lancezer
June 20th, 2013, 12:01 AM
Im uncircumcised and extremely self-conscious about it. I'm afraid to let any girl into my pants because all I ever hear is "oh its so gross" and "I feel sorry for anyone who is Uncircumcised". I've been know to worry or over-think things. If you have an assurance it is appreciated. :confused::(
Don't worry about it I'm uncut to it's nothing to worry about it's natural your meant to be uncut and no girl who thinks that is bad isn't worth it
Josh Schlacter
June 20th, 2013, 04:08 AM
I love that people are having an actual scientific discussion on here. That's awesome.
Score one for science!
Haha thank you. It's the only way to really prove a point :P
Josh Schlacter
June 20th, 2013, 04:48 AM
[QUOTE=TapDancer;2347553]Well that's not exactly my fault is it. It's actually more around ~80% being uncircumcised. Well if you're comparing a broken arm, you're correct, it won't be the same, but it will still be relatively similar. I don't think there is anyone in the world that can completely break an arm and not hurt from it. It is an accurate way of testing pain and probably the most accurate way. They can gather lots of data and find the mean, such as any other study like insulin production to a diabetes patient. It's different for every diabetic patient, but yet the FACT of them producing less insulin is respected and taught in every high school and university human biology textbook. It can provide us with data, and if the data is similar, it is the most accurate method of testing. If scientists wanted they could limit those factors by using electrodes.
What i haven't quite grasped?, more likely, you're unwillingness to accept that you're wrong and deny what studies have shown. Which has all been consistent in the outcome. Pretty much all studies will support this but then again you would probably say "inaccurate", because the information is pure interpretation. Maybe i'm so convinced it's a fact because multitudes of studies will support a similar outcome. I'll quote for you "And I don't mean evidence from a study" Hmm well, if you don't want evidence from a study what the hell do you want evidence or in your words "actual proof" from???. No, i called you hypercritical because you only stated that my opinion in the end was biased "therefore, you are biased" and not therefore our opinions are biased. So because data or the study i provided isn't 100% accurate, you neglect it and consider it wrong. Does that mean you also consider pretty much biology wrong because new information is constantly gathered? or you consider maths wrong because there is always a decimal point that may change the equation and therefore not 100% accurate.
I'm stating it's fact not because of that study, but because of the multitudes of studies that support the conclusion in the end.
I do not need experience as both, i have data and results collected from both to support my concluding statement.
This is the last time i'm going to debate with you, because you obviously aren't that smart in what you know on this topic, and you're trying to argue with me in a field that i'm very very familiar with. I have better things to do with my time than log on to VT forums and see my notifications spammed with you. I would much rather study for my upcoming final mid-term exams, to secure my scholarship into UWA.
warriorofthewater12
June 22nd, 2013, 02:09 AM
There's nothing wrong with having a uncut penis
TapDancer
June 22nd, 2013, 08:12 AM
[QUOTE=TapDancer;2347553]Well that's not exactly my fault is it. It's actually more around ~80% being uncircumcised. Well if you're comparing a broken arm, you're correct, it won't be the same, but it will still be relatively similar. I don't think there is anyone in the world that can completely break an arm and not hurt from it. It is an accurate way of testing pain and probably the most accurate way. They can gather lots of data and find the mean, such as any other study like insulin production to a diabetes patient. It's different for every diabetic patient, but yet the FACT of them producing less insulin is respected and taught in every high school and university human biology textbook. It can provide us with data, and if the data is similar, it is the most accurate method of testing. If scientists wanted they could limit those factors by using electrodes.
What i haven't quite grasped?, more likely, you're unwillingness to accept that you're wrong and deny what studies have shown. Which has all been consistent in the outcome. Pretty much all studies will support this but then again you would probably say "inaccurate", because the information is pure interpretation. Maybe i'm so convinced it's a fact because multitudes of studies will support a similar outcome. I'll quote for you "And I don't mean evidence from a study" Hmm well, if you don't want evidence from a study what the hell do you want evidence or in your words "actual proof" from???. No, i called you hypercritical because you only stated that my opinion in the end was biased "therefore, you are biased" and not therefore our opinions are biased. So because data or the study i provided isn't 100% accurate, you neglect it and consider it wrong. Does that mean you also consider pretty much biology wrong because new information is constantly gathered? or you consider maths wrong because there is always a decimal point that may change the equation and therefore not 100% accurate.
I'm stating it's fact not because of that study, but because of the multitudes of studies that support the conclusion in the end.
I do not need experience as both, i have data and results collected from both to support my concluding statement.
This is the last time i'm going to debate with you, because you obviously aren't that smart in what you know on this topic, and you're trying to argue with me in a field that i'm very very familiar with. I have better things to do with my time than log on to VT forums and see my notifications spammed with you. I would much rather study for my upcoming final mid-term exams, to secure my scholarship into UWA.
The next time you want to have a go at me, message me. Do not fill up posts with personal attacks. You can call me "hypercritical" all you like, but, my point still stands. Statistics do change, no, it is no longer 50% world wide, it is approximately 70% uncircumcised, with that number growing. No, I did not want information based on studies in "Del units" of pleasure. Del is used in measurements of pain, not pleasure. The data is interpretation between individuals. Therefore, while it might point in the right direction, I can not see it as factual. There is a difference. As for breaking an arm, it would not go as far to say "relatively similar". But, I did not say you couldn't hurt from a broken arm, I simply said that some hurt more than others. Also, diabetes is completely unrelated, as there is no margin for error, as simple conclusive and ACCURATE 100% tests for blood glucose exist, as well as other tests. Of course every diabetic patient is different, but the tests are the same, and have the same level of accuracy, so that is irrelevant.
As for levels of feeling, it might be interpretation, but, really, it will be different for everyone, because every brain will react differently and respond differently to the "levels of pain" experienced in the brain. Also, no, I do not neglect Biology, as it's research usually has proof with it's findings, everything without proof, is simply research, and may not have a conclusive hypothesis as of yet. As for math, yes, there can always be room for error, but, that is math. Number sequences that go on forever can not always be completely accurate when we write them, because yes, we do round up and down. However, if we limited a decimal number in an equation, to say, 7 decimal places, and used that number to complete an equation, our results, assuming the equation was completed correctly every time, would always come out with the same answer. In the field we are discussing, that is not the case.
Also, I am not "spamming" your posts, you kept on replying, and quite frankly, you get aggressive when someone even begins to mention you are wrong, then you get very hostile when someone presents an argument that makes sense. I mean, we all have our faults, but, it is okay to disagree, but, now you are just being immature.
Trenton_
June 22nd, 2013, 09:19 PM
The loss of a foreskin makes your penis less sensitive. Proven fact.
Abstract
WHAT'S KNOWN ON THE SUBJECT? AND WHAT DOES THE STUDY ADD?: The sensitivity of the foreskin and its importance in erogenous sensitivity is widely debated and controversial. This is part of the actual public debate on circumcision for non-medical reason. Today some studies on the effect of circumcision on sexual function are available. However they vary widely in outcome. The present study shows in a large cohort of men, based on self-assessment, that the foreskin has erogenous sensitivity. It is shown that the foreskin is more sensitive than the uncircumcised glans mucosa, which means that after circumcision genital sensitivity is lost. In the debate on clitoral surgery the proven loss of sensitivity has been the strongest argument to change medical practice. In the present study there is strong evidence on the erogenous sensitivity of the foreskin. This knowledge hopefully can help doctors and patients in their decision on circumcision for non-medical reason.
OBJECTIVES:
To test the hypothesis that sensitivity of the foreskin is a substantial part of male penile sensitivity. To determine the effects of male circumcision on penile sensitivity in a large sample.
SUBJECTS AND METHODS:
The study aimed at a sample size of ≈1000 men. Given the intimate nature of the questions and the intended large sample size, the authors decided to create an online survey. Respondents were recruited by means of leaflets and advertising.
RESULTS:
The analysis sample consisted of 1059 uncircumcised and 310 circumcised men. For the glans penis, circumcised men reported decreased sexual pleasure and lower orgasm intensity. They also stated more effort was required to achieve orgasm, and a higher percentage of them experienced unusual sensations (burning, prickling, itching, or tingling and numbness of the glans penis). For the penile shaft a higher percentage of circumcised men described discomfort and pain, numbness and unusual sensations. In comparison to men circumcised before puberty, men circumcised during adolescence or later indicated less sexual pleasure at the glans penis, and a higher percentage of them reported discomfort or pain and unusual sensations at the penile shaft.
CONCLUSIONS:
This study confirms the importance of the foreskin for penile sensitivity, overall sexual satisfaction, and penile functioning. Furthermore, this study shows that a higher percentage of circumcised men experience discomfort or pain and unusual sensations as compared with the uncircumcised population. Before circumcision without medical indication, adult men, and parents considering circumcision of their sons, should be informed of the importance of the foreskin in male sexuality.
That's great and all, but girls still think it's gross if they are American.
Imamginger: I sorta feel the same way as you, sorta scared what the girl will say when she first sees my tool. I thought all tools were the same until I first changed in a pool locker room. Some people think uncut is funny looking, I personally think it looks cool, as I'm sure every cut boy thinks his is cool. It is after all how we are.
When a girl does finially see my tool I just know I will be very very nervous.
You should be nervous because it's sex and uncut is gross if she's from America.
My bestfriend is uncircumcised and was in the same situation as you but you just have to remember all the benefits you have over people who are circumcised. Personally i think uncircumcised penis looks cooler
are you circumcised? kinda cool that you think uncut is cooler. Now if you could get American girls to think that way, these guys would be all set.
Josh Schlacter
June 23rd, 2013, 05:45 AM
That's great and all, but girls still think it's gross if they are American.
You should be nervous because it's sex and uncut is gross if she's from America.
are you circumcised? kinda cool that you think uncut is cooler. Now if you could get American girls to think that way, these guys would be all set.
Then those girls are immature if they only like mutilated penises.
I'm not nervous at all, every girl I've shown it too really loves it ;). [/U]
Nope, and i'm so glad, i wouldn't have it any other way. Haha speaking from a scientific point of view, it is better. Hahah they're views will change when science advances more. I asked like 10 girls that i'm friends with at school and they all said they preferred uncircumcised. You should come to AUS for holiday!
Josh Schlacter
June 23rd, 2013, 05:49 AM
[QUOTE=Josh Schlacter;2349719]
The next time you want to have a go at me, message me. Do not fill up posts with personal attacks. You can call me "hypercritical" all you like, but, my point still stands. Statistics do change, no, it is no longer 50% world wide, it is approximately 70% uncircumcised, with that number growing. No, I did not want information based on studies in "Del units" of pleasure. Del is used in measurements of pain, not pleasure. The data is interpretation between individuals. Therefore, while it might point in the right direction, I can not see it as factual. There is a difference. As for breaking an arm, it would not go as far to say "relatively similar". But, I did not say you couldn't hurt from a broken arm, I simply said that some hurt more than others. Also, diabetes is completely unrelated, as there is no margin for error, as simple conclusive and ACCURATE 100% tests for blood glucose exist, as well as other tests. Of course every diabetic patient is different, but the tests are the same, and have the same level of accuracy, so that is irrelevant.
As for levels of feeling, it might be interpretation, but, really, it will be different for everyone, because every brain will react differently and respond differently to the "levels of pain" experienced in the brain. Also, no, I do not neglect Biology, as it's research usually has proof with it's findings, everything without proof, is simply research, and may not have a conclusive hypothesis as of yet. As for math, yes, there can always be room for error, but, that is math. Number sequences that go on forever can not always be completely accurate when we write them, because yes, we do round up and down. However, if we limited a decimal number in an equation, to say, 7 decimal places, and used that number to complete an equation, our results, assuming the equation was completed correctly every time, would always come out with the same answer. In the field we are discussing, that is not the case.
Also, I am not "spamming" your posts, you kept on replying, and quite frankly, you get aggressive when someone even begins to mention you are wrong, then you get very hostile when someone presents an argument that makes sense. I mean, we all have our faults, but, it is okay to disagree, but, now you are just being immature.
Like i said, you don't know what you're talking about. You're not worth my time. I'm only "aggressive and hostile" to people who don't know what they're really talking about and try to prove me wrong which get's annoying. Nah bro, you're just being dumb. Come back when you've studied human biology please.
Straya
June 23rd, 2013, 05:52 AM
It's the natural way and if the biggest thing in those people's lives is worrying about wether a guy has an extra bit of skin then there doing alright. Don't worry about it. If soneone truly cares about you they won't care the skins there
TapDancer
June 23rd, 2013, 06:10 AM
[QUOTE=TapDancer;2354554]
Like i said, you don't know what you're talking about. You're not worth my time. I'm only "aggressive and hostile" to people who don't know what they're really talking about and try to prove me wrong which get's annoying. Nah bro, you're just being dumb. Come back when you've studied human biology please.
I'm sorry, but, calling me dumb, well. . . . yeah, look buddy, calling anyone dumb in turn makes you look dumb, it's also not nice. Also, you think you know it all, but, your just a High School student studying Biology like a good portion of the rest of Australia's kids. When you "finish" UWA, then you can tell me all you like what you know more than me, but, you don't convince me. Because, the basis that you are right is simply "I study Adv. Biology". You actually mightn't be the only one doing so, so perhaps you should just think about that for a second. Your studies, while the Data seems accurate, is only data, and is inconclusive. Since you have failed to provide me with a reputable source (not a copy & paste), then I can not draw my own conclusion to this subject. (To my knowledge) There are no reputable, published sources that completely backup your argument. There are "well-informed" (Some studies debatable, and certain some more accurate than others) studies, but, no one (I mean, no one with a qualification) has drawn your conclusion. Also, when I was stating what I had to say, I was giving my answer the benefit of the doubt. As you are probably aware, as teenagers, penises and being circumcised or not, matters to the average teen. It also matters to the average teen their level of "sexual pleasure". By stating that penises with foreskin DEFINITELY have more sensitivity than those circumcised, while I generally agree as it makes a certain amount of sense, will make other males here feel somewhat ashamed and disappointed in themselves. This is wrong. There is nothing wrong with a circumcised penis, and while they might not be as sensitive, they have their benefits to (easier hygiene, and reduced chance of penile cancer. Also, they will never suffer Phimosis and the pain associated with that). So I hope you have enjoyed your time here. Your points make some sense in what they say, it is just your sources are not reliable, as it seems to be just what you have to say "as a Biology student". Also, although this thread is titled "Uncircumcised and Embarrassed", many teenage (mostly American) males who use this website, are going to feel disappointed with their bodies, thanks to what you just had to say Mr. Right! Thanks for nothing, Genius. (y)
jordan_
June 23rd, 2013, 07:56 AM
I'm uncircumcised doesn't bother be, too be honest its who I am
Aca-awkward
June 23rd, 2013, 07:57 AM
I wish I was uncut
Josh Schlacter
June 23rd, 2013, 08:08 AM
Well, i'm calling you dumb because you continue to argue with me in a field i'm very familiar with. I've been studying human biology for a few years now. It's not like it's my first lecture on human bio, I'm no doctor but the level of work i'm doing is equal to first and a part of second year University. I don't know how old you are John, but what ever academic course you're really good at it, imagine someone who is trying to argue against you who is two grades lower than you? Imagine a L plate driver trying to tell someone with their full licence how to drive. A good soccer player telling a Socceroo player how to play.
And i honestly don't care what anyone thinks about me, my credentials, or how bad i make others feel on this forum, i'm not gonna sugar coat anything for anyone, i tell things how they are. If they are proud, good for them, if they aren't, tough luck. They will find a way to get over it like the other billions of people in this world.
Trenton_
June 23rd, 2013, 08:14 AM
Well, i'm calling you dumb because you continue to argue with me in a field i'm very familiar with. I've been studying human biology for a few years now. It's not like it's my first lecture on human bio, I'm no doctor but the level of work i'm doing is equal to first and a part of second year University. I don't know how old you are John, but what ever academic course you're really good at it, imagine someone who is trying to argue against you who is two grades lower than you? Imagine a L plate driver trying to tell someone with their full licence how to drive. A good soccer player telling a Socceroo player how to play.
And i honestly don't care what anyone thinks about me, my credentials, or how bad i make others feel on this forum, i'm not gonna sugar coat anything for anyone, i tell things how they are. If they are proud, good for them, if they aren't, tough luck. They will find a way to get over it like the other billions of people in this world.
that's great and all, but there is a regional aspect. american girls think foreskin is gross. Real american guys do to. theres a lot of money in america still and if guys or families can afford it, the get it cut off. if their families couldn't afford it, the guy saves and has it done because it's that gross. the rest of the world doesn't really care as much and that's fine, but state side, we care.
Josh Schlacter
June 23rd, 2013, 08:34 AM
Well that sucks, there's not really a whole lot you can do. Unless you feel like relocating to AUS or where ever where it's more acceptable to be uncircumcised. Tbh, i consider uncircumcised gross and unnatural, to me it looks weird like fingers without fingernails.
armadaskiing
June 23rd, 2013, 10:56 AM
well that is stupid, foreskin is cool and makes sex better:D
Bolton Wanderers
June 23rd, 2013, 12:26 PM
that's great and all, but there is a regional aspect. american girls think foreskin is gross. Real american guys do to. theres a lot of money in america still and if guys or families can afford it, the get it cut off. if their families couldn't afford it, the guy saves and has it done because it's that gross. the rest of the world doesn't really care as much and that's fine, but state side, we care.
That's the biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard. What's your sample size? Have you done a survey or every single american girl? No, you haven't. From what you're saying you sound like a man-slag. You probably only talk about it with other slags. They don't care about the meaning of sex, they just want it for pleasure and just say what everyone else says, they don't think for themselves. Fact it, circumcision has no purpose whatsoever. All it does is remove some of the nerve endings, so you get less pleasure during sex. There are no advantages whatsoever of being circumcised and I feel sorry for any guys who are.
Foreskin is natural. Anyone who thinks it's horrible is a complete and utter idiot, simple as that. That's like saying 'Hey you were all born with 8 fingers but I think that's gross, let's cut one off for no reason at all'.
Trenton_
June 23rd, 2013, 03:35 PM
That's the biggest load of bollocks I've ever heard. What's your sample size? Have you done a survey or every single american girl? No, you haven't. From what you're saying you sound like a man-slag. You probably only talk about it with other slags. They don't care about the meaning of sex, they just want it for pleasure and just say what everyone else says, they don't think for themselves. Fact it, circumcision has no purpose whatsoever. All it does is remove some of the nerve endings, so you get less pleasure during sex. There are no advantages whatsoever of being circumcised and I feel sorry for any guys who are.
Foreskin is natural. Anyone who thinks it's horrible is a complete and utter idiot, simple as that. That's like saying 'Hey you were all born with 8 fingers but I think that's gross, let's cut one off for no reason at all'.
Okay, then don't cut your hair, or shave or cut your nails or use antiperspirant or wear clothes because that's all natural too and we wouldn't want anyone to do something to make themselves more attractive to the opposite sex and be less gross. Right? Why even be clean? Odor is more natural right? Major body odor stink is natural right, so go with that dude.
Circumcision is a high end option that most parents in America opt for. It removes the possibility of smegma, stank, foreskin that won't retract, frenulum issues, etc. Go look around the internet at guys who got circumcised later in life. Right here on VT you'll find guys like that who will tell you there is no difference in pleasure.
IDK where you live and clearly I didn't pole every girl, but it's safe to say, if a girl is gonna give a dude a bj to two dudes after a day of school and homework at 10pm, the circumcised guy will be the cleaner, less stanky one. No question.
I don't think it's bad if guys are cut or not, I don't care at all, but I can tell you how any girl I've ever been around has reacted to the choice of cut or not. They are grossed out by uncut and say that a penis is weird enough without more skin that can stink and may or may not retract and no way would they ever put their mouth near it. To the uncut guys credit, they say it would be easier for them to give you a hand job, so you got that going for you. I'll give you that.
Know this. I don't dislike you dude. I don't mean to insult you. And I don't think I have. I'm conveying what lily white suburban girls have told me. That's all. No more, no less. That's my experience. Where I live, cut is the norm, so factor that in to what I've told you. I've showered at school with hundreds of guys and have never seen an uncut guy. I shower at a health club for years that has old and young guys at it, at different times of the day and times of the week. There are hundreds and hundreds of guy there over the years and I've never seen a natural guy, all cut. It's just the way it is here. If girls have only been around cut guys, that's all they know, so it's all they expect. It's not a bad thing, it's just how it is in most of the moer affluent parts of America.
Who knows, as more people come across the border from south america, maybe natural will be the norm. Maybe natural is the norm where you live. I've lived in a few cities and have friends and family around the country and all my cousins are circumcised, they told me their friends are and that's just the way it is. Again, I and my family are the typical upper middle to upper class boring suburban white people. Other people with other back grounds might be totally into foreskin and if they saw any of my family, friends, any dude at school, my cousins, their friends and dudes on their sports teams from around the country, maybe they would throw up at the sight of our lack of foreskin and to me, that's okay. I am what I am at this point and it's fine.
Again, I don't dislike you because of this and I don't think you should think girls are idiots for their opinion. I don't think the girls I know would dislike you either, but I don't think they'd like your penis either and that doesn't make them bad or immature because people have their likes and dislikes. Maybe look at it this way, if any of these girls I know got with you and dated you and you were sexually active, think how much they must really care about you knowing that a part of your body grosses them out.
The beauty is, according to you, is that I'm totally wrong about what girls really want, so you have nothing to worry about and perhaps I should be worried. Never meant to rile you up and anything I've posted that you didn't like was more than likely done is sarcasm that probably didn't translate well from my mind to my fingers and that's my fault and for that, I'm sorry.
Jasperf
June 23rd, 2013, 04:18 PM
It is easy to say don't worry about it if you have never been there. I was the only boy in my gym class with a foreskin and I worried about it a lot. I told myself don't worry but I still did. Finally I got circumcised which fixed the problem.
I feel so sorry for you
Gopher
June 23rd, 2013, 04:21 PM
Be proud of what you got, im uncut and keep it clean, if you do the same then you have nothing to worry about. And if anyone doesn't like it then they don't have to touch/take it, on that note most people don't care.
Nomad_X
June 23rd, 2013, 04:31 PM
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Why do you get so worked up about circumcision?
Gopher
June 23rd, 2013, 04:41 PM
Circumcision is a high end option that most parents in America opt for. It removes the possibility of smegma, stank, foreskin that won't retract, frenulum issues, etc.
IDK where you live and clearly I didn't pole every girl, but it's safe to say, if a girl is gonna give a dude a bj to two dudes after a day of school and homework at 10pm, the circumcised guy will be the cleaner, less stanky one. No question.
They are grossed out by uncut and say that a penis is weird enough without more skin that can stink and may or may not retract and no way would they ever put their mouth near it.
Some points I want to raise here.
Your statement saying it is a 'high end option' already gives a negative opinion that being uncut 'low end' option.
The part I really don't like is the statement you make about women being grossed out. Im not saying I have asked all the girls in my area for their opinion because I haven't, personally I don't give a damn what they think because if they don't like what ive got then I don't like them, it is like if I have blond hair versus brown, if they want to make a judgment based on appearance then that is something that makes them not worth mine or any mans time.
On your points about Uncut guys having more smegma and all these other issues, there are plenty of issues to go around. If at 10 pm I think I might have sex or foreplay im going to go take 2 minutes in the bathroom and a little toilet paper to wipe my penis down so its nice, not hard.
I don't care and am not an advocate for one side or the other, I just don't like the negative statements whether intentional or not that are made. If your uncut and there isn't anything wrong with your penis then don'y worry about it. You don't have to. What other people say is their own problem, not yours.
I don't dislike you Trenton I just want you to realize what impression uncut people get when they read that post.
Mob Boss
June 23rd, 2013, 05:02 PM
Alrighty, so it seems as if some of you guys are getting a little too aggravated. We're going to stop with the name-calling and personal attacks or members will be infracted and this thread will be closed. The next time I have to come back to this thread, it will be closed.
MoonMan
June 23rd, 2013, 06:40 PM
Well, i'm calling you dumb because you continue to argue with me in a field i'm very familiar with. I've been studying human biology for a few years now. It's not like it's my first lecture on human bio, I'm no doctor but the level of work i'm doing is equal to first and a part of second year University. I don't know how old you are John, but what ever academic course you're really good at it, imagine someone who is trying to argue against you who is two grades lower than you? Imagine a L plate driver trying to tell someone with their full licence how to drive. A good soccer player telling a Socceroo player how to play.
And i honestly don't care what anyone thinks about me, my credentials, or how bad i make others feel on this forum, i'm not gonna sugar coat anything for anyone, i tell things how they are. If they are proud, good for them, if they aren't, tough luck. They will find a way to get over it like the other billions of people in this world.
It's hard to make an agreeable point when you're passive aggressive about everything that spews out of your mouth. Being honest and being degrading are two very different things. You could prove a point without insulting circumcised men with statements like "mutilated" penises that look like "fingers without a fingernail." It should be noted that most circumcised men didn't opt for it themselves, but were given the procedure shortly after birth by a so called "medical professional." It has nothing to do with pride, nor should it, when people make fun of shortcomings that you had no control over. But hey, I guess we should just "get over it" when someone degrades you in a superficial manner in order to further prove a point. Guess it's just tough luck, eh?
Behind The Masks
June 23rd, 2013, 06:49 PM
Don't worry about it. A girl will like you for YOU, not your penis.
JRwulf64
June 23rd, 2013, 08:26 PM
Yeah i am, but i wish i wasnt. i really do think it looks cooler
TapDancer
June 25th, 2013, 04:08 AM
Well, i'm calling you dumb because you continue to argue with me in a field i'm very familiar with. I've been studying human biology for a few years now. It's not like it's my first lecture on human bio, I'm no doctor but the level of work i'm doing is equal to first and a part of second year University. I don't know how old you are John, but what ever academic course you're really good at it, imagine someone who is trying to argue against you who is two grades lower than you? Imagine a L plate driver trying to tell someone with their full licence how to drive. A good soccer player telling a Socceroo player how to play.
And i honestly don't care what anyone thinks about me, my credentials, or how bad i make others feel on this forum, i'm not gonna sugar coat anything for anyone, i tell things how they are. If they are proud, good for them, if they aren't, tough luck. They will find a way to get over it like the other billions of people in this world.
I see your point here. I mean, personally, I don't agree with it, but I understand it. The L plater scenario is actually so funny to me, because my mothers husband continually drives 70-80Ks on the freeway (The speed limit is 110), and it does not matter that he has been driving 40+ more years than I, it does not matter that I'm on my Ls, even I know, that's dangerous as all hell. But, as for science, you might be doing the equivalent to University work, but, especially in Science, you must keep an open mind, because things are constantly changing, and, if you knew everything there was to know, well, there would be no need for research, right?
Perhaps you might not like to "Sugar coat" things, that is your prerogative, however, this site provides support for all teenagers and you can not target or insult particular minorities. I realise that was never ever your intention, but you must still be careful, as your argument almost seemed to insinuate the uncircumcised persons have the upper hand and circumcised people have considerable less sexual pleasure (this MIGHT be true, but, certainly, circumcised people do experience high level sexual experience, like all men,x and all in all, I believe there is little difference.)
Josh Schlacter
June 25th, 2013, 04:16 AM
I see your point here. I mean, personally, I don't agree with it, but I understand it. The L plater scenario is actually so funny to me, because my mothers husband continually drives 70-80Ks on the freeway (The speed limit is 110), and it does not matter that he has been driving 40+ more years than I, it does not matter that I'm on my Ls, even I know, that's dangerous as all hell. But, as for science, you might be doing the equivalent to University work, but, especially in Science, you must keep an open mind, because things are constantly changing, and, if you knew everything there was to know, well, there would be no need for research, right?
Perhaps you might not like to "Sugar coat" things, that is your prerogative, however, this site provides support for all teenagers and you can not target or insult particular minorities. I realise that was never ever your intention, but you must still be careful, as your argument almost seemed to insinuate the uncircumcised persons have the upper hand and circumcised people have considerable less sexual pleasure (this MIGHT be true, but, certainly, circumcised people do experience high level sexual experience, like all men,x and all in all, I believe there is little difference.)
That is true. But i didn't say i knew everything. I'm simply saying i'm more qualified.
Well maybe they will choose to not get their kids circumcised once they know the differences between circumcised and uncircumcised. In America, kids who aren't circumcised are mostly considered gross. So i hear from other Americans. Now, that's even worse. Being afraid and teased because you're natural and one did not have surgery on their genitals.
TapDancer
June 25th, 2013, 04:24 AM
That is true. But i didn't say i knew everything. I'm simply saying i'm more qualified.
Well maybe they will choose to not get their kids circumcised once they know the differences between circumcised and uncircumcised. In America, kids who aren't circumcised are mostly considered gross. So i hear from other Americans. Now, that's even worse. Being afraid and teased because you're natural and one did not have surgery on their genitals.
Yes, but my point about saying one an not know everything in science, was to point out, that just because you see yourself as "More Qualified", does not mean you are necessarily correct. I have seen nurses correct the mistakes of doctors before (Australia's brilliant health care service), so, qualifications do not mean as much as you seem to think. Whether you consider circumcision or not to be a worthwhile procedure to society, is irrelevant to this thread. The poster was asking for advice because he feared that he was going to be the socially outcast (Yes, childish as it sounds, people can be bullied for being circumcised or not, just like they can be bullied for penis size, or how fat they are). I mean, like you, I believe we should accept the things we can not change (or should not), but, that still does not mean it can't be worrying to be the one that sticks out in the crowd.
Jim1
August 11th, 2013, 09:30 PM
I love that people are having an actual scientific discussion on here. That's awesome.
Score one for science!
it would be even more scientific if the poster would give the source of that material.
gothicsanctum
August 11th, 2013, 11:56 PM
Im uncircumcised and extremely self-conscious about it. I'm afraid to let any girl into my pants because all I ever hear is "oh its so gross" and "I feel sorry for anyone who is Uncircumcised". I've been know to worry or over-think things. If you have an assurance it is appreciated. :confused::(
if you can slide your foreskin back all the way she probably wont be able to tell the difference until you stick it in. The foreskin is like the ribs in the ribbed for her pleasure condoms.
xxsgboixx
August 12th, 2013, 06:21 AM
Huh? This is the first time im hearing this. I tot cut ones will be laughed at since your glans are exposed. I find those with foreskins are sexier. I wish mine was uncut. As long as u wash them properly, u shudnt be embarrassed,
Liven
August 12th, 2013, 08:58 AM
Personally, I was circumcised as a baby. I wish I was not circumcised. If someone criticized you for being uncircumcised, they most likely are circumcised themselves and wished that they weren't circumcised.
Ddare28
August 12th, 2013, 10:19 AM
Don't be embarrassed. No one cares really whether you are cut or uncut. I have friends that are cut and some that aren't. You're fine plus girls won't shy away from you just because your uncut.
canuck2013
August 13th, 2013, 09:16 AM
Don't be embarassed about it - everyone's body is different in one way or another. Where I live, just about everyone is uncut
brandonggarcia1
August 23rd, 2013, 01:19 AM
what is the benifit of being circumcised? Nothing! Hey think of it this way when you are uncut you will save money because you won't have to buy lube and also get the circumcision done! If you are uncut you also get more pleasure when doing it!
amen.
jimmy4
August 28th, 2013, 08:45 AM
I am uncircumcised and have a large amount of foreskin but its just your penis, it doesn't matter.
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