Religion and Sexual Activity

[Duke Blue Devils]

Before I begin explaining the purpose for this thread, I would primarily like to hear from religious individuals. (I have nothing against non-religious individuals, it's merely a difference of opinion.)

Anyways, lately I have been convicted of doing an "unreasonable" act. (Please do not ask what this act was.) The purpose of this thread is to see what other religious individuals' opinions are about certain sexual activities.

Therefore, what is your opinion on masturbation, premarital sex, sexual experimentation, etc.?

[darthearth]

convicted as in by the "holy spirit" or what, I don't understand.

But I follow the two great commandments of love God with all and love your neighbor as yourself. All of my morality follows from that. I don't believe the Bible is God's infallible "Word", but unfortunately many people have fallen for it. I think all the sex stuff is fine....I consider "fornication" to be "unlawful" intercourse, but I believe the "law" is just now those two commandments. Pretty much everything goes then except stuff like rape. I guess you can call me a very liberal religious person.

[Stig]

Well. I like to follow God's word. For example, I don't believe in sex before marriage, and I think that being gay is wrong. Now I have nothing against gays what so ever, they are still human and they should be treated as such. Now I do think that it's ok to jerk off, give and receive hj and BJ. But that is where I draw the line. No anal and such.

[chetbonare]

Well. I like to follow God's word. For example, I don't believe in sex before marriage, and I think that being gay is wrong. Now I have nothing against gays what so ever, they are still human and they should be treated as such. Now I do think that it's ok to jerk off, give and receive hj and BJ. But that is where I draw the line. No anal and such.

That about sums up where I stand as well. No sex before marriage, I think gay is wrong (As stated in the Bible. No opinion involved) and they are humans.. I wouldn't mind jerk off with a close friend but not with just anyone ya know? same for hj.. As for BJ, I've never done it so I would be slow to do it if at all. No anal, kissing, etc... I'm straight after all :cool:

[redrover]

convicted as in by the "holy spirit" or what, I don't understand.

But I follow the two great commandments of love God with all and love your neighbor as yourself. All of my morality follows from that. I don't believe the Bible is God's infallible "Word", but unfortunately many people have fallen for it. I think all the sex stuff is fine....I consider "fornication" to be "unlawful" intercourse, but I believe the "law" is just now those two commandments. Pretty much everything goes then except stuff like rape. I guess you can call me a very liberal religious person.


I hope you will think about that some more. I know this is not about your opinion but when I heard you say God's word isn't infallible, then how do you know which parts are right and which parts wrong?

The bible talks about sex three ways: fornication (sex before marriage), adultary (sex with a person not your wife/ husband, when you are married), and with your wife/ husband in the way God designed it.

I know that everyone does things that they regret. If God has a way to do something and we don't, yes it's wrong, but it doesn't mean it can't be forgiven. He is a good God. The bible says He is quick to forgive.

Masturbation is something the bible doesn't really talk about and I have heard people talk about it being ok and normal and about not doing it and they make up a reason. I think it is probably one of those things that are OK depending on what / who you are thinking about.

Experimenting is something that happens, but if it is something that God's word says to not do, then even if it seems interesting or whatever, we should trust HIm and stay away from it. What difference does it make to do it if you don't have to? Think about all the good stuff He has for us to do besides that is good !

Please don't double post, use the edit button instead or the mutliquote feature~DerBear

[Avamis]

Well I'm jewish, and I know we have to wait after wedding and not spill sperm. But I dont do those obligations xD I do masturbate and I guess I'll have sex before wedding.

[Backflipboy]

The problem with the Bible is that it is so contradictory because it was written by lots of different people. I am an atheist but I have studied Christian attitudes to sex in great detail. First of all, being gay is not considered a sin, although the act of gay sex is considered a sin. The Bible talks of gay prostitution (Church rent boys) in both the Old and New Testament. Masturbation is considered sinful, and only sexual contact and sexual intercourse between a married couple is acceptable. Fornication and adultery are both strictly prohibited, especially being one of the Ten Commandments. For Catholics and other "strict" Christians the only form of contraception that is acceptable is the Rhythm Method. This is having sex at the time of the month where the female is the least fertile.

If you ask me, Christian attitudes to sex are a nice principle but they just aren't realistic as an absolute maxim.

[Syler]

I think masturbation is not nearly as bad as premarital sex

[ULeon]

im religious and stuff but, all belive in is being protected, not having kids until you are married.

[Juan barnard]

When people bring up sh** like "being gay is a sin and yall shall burn in hell" I just say to them "well having premarital sex is also a sin, so see u and ur whole family in hell bi***) (I'm gay and Christian)
I think its fine to masturbate, having premarital sex is ok, everyone does it now /: and being gay is ok! (That rhymed)
Ps. I felled like this before I started puberty and that's when I found out I was gay (when I started puberty)

[tarheelboy8888]

Well. I like to follow God's word. For example, I don't believe in sex before marriage, and I think that being gay is wrong. Now I have nothing against gays what so ever, they are still human and they should be treated as such. Now I do think that it's ok to jerk off, give and receive hj and BJ. But that is where I draw the line. No anal and such.

This is exactly what I believe. The Bible is God's infallible word and truth, no ifs, ands or buts.

[Juan barnard]

And here's a question for people who think being gay is wrong, why would God create gays if he wanted us to burn in hell? O.o
So basically u are saying he planned for us from the beginning to burn in hell -.-
Sorry if I'm sounding angered, coz I am, I HATE it when people use religion to diss gays, not saying anyone here did, just saying I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT!

[Cicero]

I'm alright with all of them. But for me, the premarital sex part would be only with someone I really care about. I'm a virgin, so if someone is going to take that away, I will be sure it's with someone I really, truly care about, and I will most definitely make sure that when that time comes, I will make it memorable and special.

[tarheelboy8888]

And here's a question for people who think being gay is wrong, why would God create gays if he wanted us to burn in hell? O.o
So basically u are saying he planned for us from the beginning to burn in hell -.-
Sorry if I'm sounding angered, coz I am, I HATE it when people use religion to diss gays, not saying anyone here did, just saying I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE DO THAT!

You aren't born gay.....it is a state of mind that is a CHOICE. As others have said before we are to love the people and dislike their actions

[Backflipboy]

Somebody gave me some negative reputation for my previous post above and says that it is wrong.

Either - you are a Christian and do not like the way I exploited the truth.

OR

You haven't studied it like I have, I'm doing an A-Level in it for goodness sake!

Everything I wrote is true, and in my opinion completely unacceptable views

[Juan barnard]

You aren't born gay.....it is a state of mind that is a CHOICE. As others have said before we are to love the people and dislike their actions

Do u actually know anything about gays??? We did not choose this!!! I wanted to kill myself when I started having feelings for guys, if there was a choice, then I would never choose this, get ur facts straight, gays are born this way, we didn't choose it

[StoneColdNicky]

I think this is going to be a really interesting conversation. I will tell you I am officially Roman Catholic, however I don't know if I can follow the bible as we have it to a 't'. For the one thing, it is contradictory on several points. My main gripe is, to quote Rufus Wainwright, 'do you really think you'd go to hell for having loved?'

I try to think of things morally - if what anyone does hurts no one, how can one be punished? Straight, gay or bi, if what you are doing doesn't hurt anyone, how can a sin have been committed?

[Arsenalfan123]

im non religious but i know some religions dont like sex. my older friend is a roman catholic and he has had sex though.

[deanbrodi]

Being gay is NEVER a choice. Think of all the gay suicides. No-one would choose something that will bring them so much criminal assault & so much self-hatred, & make it so very much harder to find a partner that'll stay with them for years. (Where do you go, to find possible parners instead of 1-nite stands?)

[Gigablue]

I'm not religious, and have no problem with masturbation, sex before marriage, homosexuality, or any of the other things mentioned. I don't think that people should I force their morality on others, or use their religion to judge others. What people do in their bedroom doesn't concern me, as long as it doesn't hurt anyone.

You aren't born gay.....it is a state of mind that is a CHOICE. As others have said before we are to love the people and dislike their actions

It isn't a choice. No good study has ever found that it is, and many studies show that it is determined by genetics and prenatal hormones. The only choice people have is whether they hide who they are or not.

[LouBerry]

Well, I honestly don't know about masturbation. I don't personally think that it's wrong, but who knows. As for sex? It's very clear in the bible that sex before marriage is wrong. To give you some background:

I've been with my mate for a year now. We've been having a physical relationship for about two months. We are both very religious and it really took a tole on both of us to be doing those things when we knew they were wrong. It's wrong and it feels wrong to do it. Having sex bonds you to that other person on a very mature emotional level that most teenagers are not ready for. I wasn't ready for it.

Take your time with those things.

[Gigablue]

Well, I honestly don't know about masturbation. I don't personally think that it's wrong, but who knows. As for sex? It's very clear in the bible that sex before marriage is wrong. To give you some background:

I've been with my mate for a year now. We've been having a physical relationship for about two months. We are both very religious and it really took a tole on both of us to be doing those things when we knew they were wrong. It's wrong and it feels wrong to do it. Having sex bonds you to that other person on a very mature emotional level that most teenagers are not ready for. I wasn't ready for it.

Take your time with those things.

The bible doesn't really talk about masturbation. Some people have interpreted the story of Onan (Genesis 38) as being about masturbation, but it probably doesn't even refer to it. Many religions are opposed to masturbation, though many others aren't.

[StoneColdNicky]

Being gay is NEVER a choice. Think of all the gay suicides. No-one would choose something that will bring them so much criminal assault & so much self-hatred, & make it so very much harder to find a partner that'll stay with them for years. (Where do you go, to find possible parners instead of 1-nite stands?)

What if being gay is a test?

[IAMWILL]

Before I post, I'd just like to mention that I'm a senior at a Catholic high school and have been studying theology for 4 years, and this year I am taking Honors Bioethics, which delves heavily into homosexuality and the Church's views on it.

First off, the Church has nothing against gays. It recognizes that for most same-sex attracted peoples, it is not a choice. The general consensus among the APA and other major medical organizations is that same-sex attraction is a result of a complex system of variables that include genetic and nuturing causes. The Church believes however that same-sex acts, or acting on same-sex attraction, is wrong. This is taught because all sexual acts besides intercourse between a man and a women (EVERYTHING, regardless of same sex or not, and including masturbation) is contrary to the Natural law and the purpose of intercourse, which is procreation. Since no other sexual acts are directed towards procreation, they are unnecessarry and immoral. The Church therefore calls on everyone to live chastly, unless you are a married couple having sexual intercourse without using contraceptives.

Personally, in reasion I am in agreement with everything, although I struggle to understand why masturbation, which is a personal, healthy act, is wrong. It was explained to me by my teacher that just because it is natural, does not make it in accordance with the Natural law. This makes sense, but I think I may be denying it so I feel better about masturbation. I'm not very religious myself, but I am very interested in learning and so I try and fully understand religious teachings.

[deanbrodi]

What do you mean "a test"? It can't be God that's doing the testing 'cos he already knows what the results are gonna be. Far worse, why would anyone push a teen to suicide, in some kind of "test"?

[StoneColdNicky]

When I mentioned the 'test,' I was just referring to the various passages of the bible, and quotes people make in life when faced with trying circumstances, about the situation being a test of our strength from God. Since homosexuality came up, and I gave my personal view on it earlier, I wondered if we could look at it in another way in relation to religion - same as the other forms of sexual activity outside of marriage that IAMWILL discussed.

So, as IAmWill says, even though it is natural to feel sexual attraction outside of marriage between a man and a woman, that doesn't mean we should act on it. This is the context in which I suggested a test.

[ImAJock]

Sex outside of marriage is wrong. hj and bj count as sexual activity, so it is wrong. and so is being gay. the Bible clearly states those facts. now im not hating on gays, i have met some very likable people who are gay. but it is sinful. idk on masturbation. i agree that it does matter who/what youre thinking about while j/o. i lean towards its a sin cause the Bible says to not spill our seed on the ground. that is the conclusion ive reached after studying the Word and talking to many Godly people.

[tarheelboy8888]

Sex outside of marriage is wrong. hj and bj count as sexual activity, so it is wrong. and so is being gay. the Bible clearly states those facts. now im not hating on gays, i have met some very likable people who are gay. but it is sinful. idk on masturbation. i agree that it does matter who/what youre thinking about while j/o. i lean towards its a sin cause the Bible says to not spill our seed on the ground. that is the conclusion ive reached after studying the Word and talking to many Godly people.

Great post

[Tylermx27]

Try to stay away from religious discussion about jerking off

[jordanmichael]

From my in depth studies I would class damnation into hell and hell as a medieval concept. - The whole point of the New Testament is to describe how a transcendent being took human form to save us from our sins. So with redemption guaranteed there is no need for hell.

The way that I understand God is that we are to ever thank and thus be in service of the almighty for blessing us all with the redemption from our sins.
I am an Anglican with strict Conservative principles. I understand that there must be necessary "evil" acts so that we are able to see what is good in the world. For example if we did not have people committing fornication then we would not be able to understand that it is best to keep sex inside of marriage due to the fact that it could be less complicated when a baby comes along by mistake. It the classic “How would I know it was good if I did not know what was bad”

Masturbation is not one of the trespasses against the Lord, in fact from a Christian perspective I think it should be encouraged as it has been proven to counter-act depression. What we must look at is Christian views throughout the years, they change, often slower than the will of the people but they do evolve naturally.

Everyone is stuck at different ends of the religious political spectrum and thus it is impossible to say what is right and what is wrong because it depends on what time period your religious thoughts are resting.

If you look up the definition of “Sin” you will discover that it is a trespass or violation against Divine Laws. Now these laws come direct from God and thus we have no control over them. Divine Law is thus beyond human control and we cannot change it. With this in mind look at the issue of homosexuality. The Church especially in the UK media recently has been condemned for not approving Gay Marriage. But a majority of people (not myself included) are annoyed with the church for their failure to support the movement of the times. Homosexuals are thus not sinful for there can surely be no divine law against homosexuality if the attitudes of people are potentially facing a change in law.

But just as I was starting to sound liberal I would point out that BackFlipBoy is right in stating that religion is contradictory for this is both the joy and purpose of religion! Sexual Contact is meant for the production of children and thus this does not provide any apparent purpose for homosexual contact… You could. I suppose justify experimenting as “experience” and “preparation” however they are not terms that I personally feel ok in using. Religion is purposely ambiguous and contradictory so that it may be interpreted by a diverse population; this is what I like to think of being art. Religion has been crafted over thousands of years to touch as many individuals as possible and thus no one should be excluded from religion for legal sexual acts.

What we have all failed to point out is the one important fact here, if you are Christian then 9/10 people accept that man is made in God’s image, if this is true then it proves one thing and that is that God is diverse beyond human comprehension.

My message to all those whom follow a Christian faith is yes Church is good for lessons, morals and general social guidance, but since we are all part of God and our souls seek to be at one with God then only we in our personal thoughts can say what is right in the eyes of the Lord Almighty. Religion is not important when it comes to the matter of sexuality, masturbation or pre-marriage sex for what matters is that belief in that what you are doing is right and just to yourself, providing it is not harming others or violating common law.

[Avenida105]

Sex outside of marriage is wrong. hj and bj count as sexual activity, so it is wrong. and so is being gay. the Bible clearly states those facts. now im not hating on gays, i have met some very likable people who are gay. but it is sinful. idk on masturbation. i agree that it does matter who/what youre thinking about while j/o. i lean towards its a sin cause the Bible says to not spill our seed on the ground. that is the conclusion ive reached after studying the Word and talking to many Godly people.

The Bible does state that sex outside marriage is wrong. It doesn't specifically say anything about homosexuals, it only says that men stretched out God's truth and men started behaving like women and women like men. Which could have various meaning it could indeed be about sexuality, but it could also be about working considering how male oriented was work and government before the 1900's. And the not to spill your seed on the ground, you just made me do the oh..god..why meme face, the bible wasn't even written in English and I don't think "seed" had the same double meaning 2000 years ago in hebrew nor greek.

I do respect your opinions, dont get me wrong, but I also wanted to share my view on religion and sexually activity.

[turtleman]

I don't understand all the restrictions against masturbation. Most people who masturbate do it to relieve themselves of their sexual desires, so that they won't constantly be horny until marriage. Trust me; once I started becoming horny, I wanted to not masturbate because I felt that it was kinda perverted. Then, the sexual thoughts got so distracting that I was unable to concentrate. That's why I started masturbating :D Afterwards, I was able to concentrate again.

[nino51300]

I'm catholic but I dont thing staying virgin until marrige is right, nor is staying clean like clean thoughts, etc, fuck that lol It shouldn't be a sin, it life. Jackin' a sin.... My god

The guy above my post is right...

[tbonehntr]

I believe in no premarital sex, I find that being gay is fine, and gay sex is wrongful(no offense meant. Just my views) also I see that masturbation is somewhat wrongful(depends on the day) and that pornography is also wrongful.

[ImAJock]

Avenida105, i appreciate the respect u showed me. i will show the same respect to u. first i will talk shortly about the "Seed" debate. many scholars interpret that verse the way i said. it is the most excepted interpretation of that verse. secondly, the Bible does have verses specically pertaing to homosexuality "Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin." NLV hopefully, ive changed ur mind. there r other verses about this, please google them

[Polski101]

I come from a Very religious upbringing but I think that it if it is going to happen, let it happen because its when you as a person feels that it is right and I also think that like a lot of things, not everything is true when it says it. Sometimes, its a matter of opinion and how you feel

[TigerBoy]

the Bible does have verses specically pertaing to homosexuality "Do not practice homosexuality, having sex with another man as with a woman. It is a detestable sin." NLV hopefully, ive changed ur mind. there r other verses about this, please google them

The only place that anything mentioning homosexuality as being wrong is in Leviticus. The translation you have used is so abstracted from the Hebrew it is almost unrecognisable. Leviticus is in any case part of the Old Law before Christianity broke away from Judaism and was made obsolete by the new Covenant with Christ. It is the reason people are Christians and not Jews, and do not have to get circumcised or follow any of the other stuff about eating shell fish and wearing clothing of mixed cloth etc etc.

I already discussed this passage and others with you previously, but I've had a similar discussion here (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=161649)if you want to refresh your memory since the original thread had our conversation removed after you got upset.

[ImAJock]

tigerboy, i wont touch the seccond part of ur post. here r some NT verses in the NIV version. "Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Dont be decieved, the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor HOMOSEXUAL OFFENDERS nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." 1 Corinthians 6:9-10 NIV

"Because of this, God gave them over to their shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones. In the same way men also abandoned nautural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and recieved in themselves the due penalty for their pervasion." Romans 1:26-27 NIV. u wanted NT verses in a different version here r some TIGERBOY

Please don't double post, use the edit button or multiquote feature~Derri

[TigerBoy]

Actually IMAJOCK I didn't ask you do produce more examples of terrible translation from that particular version of the bible, I suggested you go read my explanations for why there are much better translations and interpretations.

I've already covered those in the thread I linked to previously. Here's the link again (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=161649). Why don't you try reading it this time?

In a much older and more authoritative version of the bible the language is closer to the original, the word "homosexual" doesn't even appear (for good reason)

Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corintihians 6:9-10 KJV

In this version of the bible that passage is even closer to the original Greek:
Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor morally weak, nor promiscuous, Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
1 Corintihians 6:9-10 QJV p554


Here's the explanation from the thread I referred you to previously:

Romans 1:26-32, is Paul condemning a paganistic sex cult. He's not happy is he? What he's not happy about is idolatry incidentally. This passage isn't about condemning homosexuality as its primary focus. Where in this is it talking about gays? How does pagan sexy times have any relevance to that specific issue over others?

Corinthians and Timothy both revolve around how you get "abusers of themselves with mankind" from the translation of the word "arsenokoites" which is an extremely rare greek word (and actually this is its first recorded use). Makes you wonder why they didn't use one of the greek words they already had at the time to make it clear they meant 'homosexuals'. So we've got some strange obscure word used here. Its a compound word (like "honeymoon") that means "men" and "beds". It doesn't mean "menbeds" obviously, so in the same way that 'honeymoon' doesn't mean literally a moon made of honey, you need to look at context to see what it means. The only contextual appearances of this word is where it appears in lists of economic crimes, so this implies its some sort of prostitution, others have said it simply means promiscuity. Quite a stretch to suggest that one word could be substituted for 'any and all gay sex' when they could have said that if they wanted.

[ImAJock]

Thats why i did NIV. maybe you should try reading what i posted. and may i respectfuly ask if you are, how long have you been a christian? by that i mean when did you accept the Lord into your life. i want to know if im debating with someone who knows the Bible or just a fool who is just using big words to make yourself smarter than you truly are or copying and pasting articles you read on the internet. not insulting you just wondering

the QJV was released very recently. it is an edited version KJV. guess who edited it? thats right, gay people. they changed KJV to a gay friendly bible. it is truly the most Satanic, perverted, misconstrued version of the Word EVER! your using a version that was edited to make being gay not a sin!

Please don't double post, use the edit button~Derri

[TigerBoy]

the QJV was released very recently. it is an edited version KJV. guess who edited it? thats right, gay people. they changed KJV to a gay friendly bible.

Yes exactly. And what is your point here? Translations of the bible can be made by anyone. There are academic justifications for that translation, which is more than can be said for your homophobic views.

And what about the KJV then? I notice you've completely ignored the other points I made refuting your bigotry.



it is truly the most Satanic, perverted, misconstrued version of the Word EVER! your using a version that was edited to make being gay not a sin!
And that is the most moronic, uneducated, rabidly fanatical bigoted piece of unsupported crap I have heard for a while around here.

Explain why it is Satanic any more than another bible translation?
Perverted meaning what exactly?
Explain how it is misconstrued - there are academic reasons given on their site for the translation. Can you prove those are wrong?

[Hermes96]

i belive god gave us a choise to be happy wether that means we are gay bi or strait

[rogue350]

I am abstaining from sex until marriage. I have experimented with a friend of mine and I put an end to that a few years back after things went too far. I am really unsure whether masturbation is wrong or not. It isn't directly addressed in the bible. I don't see how guys can go until marriage without masturbating. Is it even possible?

[TurboDieselBandit]

It looks like you have more than enough feedback but I'll add a link to the last thread I made that will likely help: http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=159982

By the way, despite what has happened, I have been and will continue to be abstinent towards girls until marriage.

[WonderTastic]

Some questions for everyone.
Who can say they wrote the bible.
who can say they translated the bible.
who can say they know how many time the bible got translated.
who can say the devil didn't taper with the bible.
Who can say for certain they know for sure anything.

Before I get fired up for the last statement I am just say we don't know anything. I am a believer in Christ so that also mean I know the devil is real and I think he very well could have put no gays in the bible. Or humans could have really messed up the bible with all the translations and moving the word from city to city. They didn't have computer to save everything to. You guys got to think. If i told some one the world turns round and passed the message from city to city my worlds would turn out way weird. Paper doesn't make it better cause it fades and smears and they didn't have a system of translation. Nothing was organized or certified.

This is how I serve god. I read my bible but before I do I ask god for guidance. I live a morally good like. I am planning to wait till marriage till I have sex whether I am with a guy or girl and I love every one unconditionally. This is what I see a what god would want from his follower.

I think everyone relationship would god should be personal and meaningful. He should be like a friend that you can call in need of anything. He will love you unconditionally. You should serve him how you feel is right and never pressure anyone to do it your way cause if god wanted it set one way he would come down right now and say what he really wants from us. Instead he let a wide vaarieties of belifes build and grow cause he knew people wanted to serve him in different ways. All I think god cares about is if you have a love and compassion to serve him. If you have that then you'll be good in my eyes.


I'm not saying I right n anyway, but I know I love god and I know he loves me more than I could ever know.

If I posted something politically wrong quote it and mention me. I will try and come back and fix where I messed up at. My god be with you all.

[Alabama_18]

The problem with the Bible is that it is so contradictory because it was written by lots of different people. I am an atheist but I have studied Christian attitudes to sex in great detail. First of all, being gay is not considered a sin, although the act of gay sex is considered a sin. The Bible talks of gay prostitution (Church rent boys) in both the Old and New Testament. Masturbation is considered sinful, and only sexual contact and sexual intercourse between a married couple is acceptable. Fornication and adultery are both strictly prohibited, especially being one of the Ten Commandments. For Catholics and other "strict" Christians the only form of contraception that is acceptable is the Rhythm Method. This is having sex at the time of the month where the female is the least fertile.

If you ask me, Christian attitudes to sex are a nice principle but they just aren't realistic as an absolute maxim.


Before anybody listens to the comments from an atheist on the Bible, it would be a smart idea to open it up and go to the index and look up Homosexuality. Read it and it will tell you exactly what the view on it is. I'm a Christian that goes to church every Sunday and people know I'm a Christian. I make bad decisions and I've never done straight up anal with people but I've had my fair share of bj's from guys and girls. Don't ever listen to someone when they talk about the Bible without opening it up yourself and seeing is actually in there. If anybody needs someone to talk to PM me and I'll be glad to give as much information as possible or just listen to any problems you have! I'm not near perfect but God loves me the way I am.

[Alabama_18]

And if anybody who's read the Bible think back to the Jonah and the whale. He was being sent to Ninevah to teach the people about Godsvword and tell them to stop living their lives in sin and repent. Ninevah was full of homosexuals, pregnant girls, drunks, and so on. Being that much has changed from the Old Testament to the New Testament people didnt live under the old laws anymore. They became not so harsh and were focused around having a savior that died for us. So all in all there's a lot of things that we do that's a sin, but if you repent (doesnt mean you have to go to confession, or talk to a pope) you can simply pray to God. He'll forgive and forget like it never happened if you truly mean it.

[BakeBake]

Masturbation- my religion and I have no problem with it
Premarital sex - it is frowned upon, but you don't get shunned or anything if it occurs
Experimentation - Me and my religion have no problem with it.

[alexkun]

is not easy to talk about this at all.. God is important to me, but i also like to be who i am, and tend to get a little depressed from time to time.. cause i cant decide which side i should stick to... i have to choose one and stay there..

[crispxtra]

I am not religious and not really a fan of it, but i do respect your views. Personally my view on masturbation, premarital sex etc. is do it if you want, dont do it if you dont want to. I dont mean to sound like an asshole, but i feel like you should do what you feel is right and what you want to do, not what your religion wants you to do. You wanna have sex, have sex, if you dont, then dont.

[PetrusRomanus]

All of those are very much sinful and sorrowful before the eyes of the TRIUNE GOD.

[JAT14]

The problem with the Bible is that it is so contradictory because it was written by lots of different people. I am an atheist but I have studied Christian attitudes to sex in great detail. First of all, being gay is not considered a sin, although the act of gay sex is considered a sin. The Bible talks of gay prostitution (Church rent boys) in both the Old and New Testament. Masturbation is considered sinful, and only sexual contact and sexual intercourse between a married couple is acceptable. Fornication and adultery are both strictly prohibited, especially being one of the Ten Commandments. For Catholics and other "strict" Christians the only form of contraception that is acceptable is the Rhythm Method. This is having sex at the time of the month where the female is the least fertile.

If you ask me, Christian attitudes to sex are a nice principle but they just aren't realistic as an absolute maxim.

Sums it ip

[GabAngel06]

All these things are violations to the 6th and 9th commandments, also the 6th beatitude of Jesus. The reason why we shouldn't engage in masturbation is because the act of "spilling the seeds" is considered to be a misuse of God's gift of human sexuality. (Refer: Sin of Onan (http://www.goodmorals.org/sterile.html)) In other cases such as premarital sex, the Church strictly requires us to keep ourselves chaste, and celibate before receiving the Sacrament of Matrimony that binds two (male and female), blessing them with the permission to engage in sexual activities with their spouses and no one else.

[GabAngel06]

All these things are violations to the 6th and 9th commandments, also the 6th beatitude of Jesus. The reason why we shouldn't engage in masturbation, because the act of "spilling the seeds" is considered to be a misuse of God's gift of human sexuality. (Refer: Sin of Onan (http://www.goodmorals.org/sterile.html)) In other cases such as premarital sex, the Church strictly requires us to keep ourselves chaste and celibate before receiving the Sacrament of Matrimony that binds two (male and female), blessing them with the permission to engage in sexual activities with their spouse and no one else.