Can we have a religion forum [Archive]

Cycling Penguin

December 1st, 2012, 11:49 AM

I would really like there to be a religion forum. Mabye with sub forum for each religion?
I think it would be good because it would teach other about the multi cultural society and give people's change to talk about their religion!

Sorry if this isn't allowed or there is already one (ill look harder!)

Thanks

Foxy

December 1st, 2012, 11:55 AM

I would love that aswell

Jess

December 1st, 2012, 12:10 PM

Well if it is a debate then you could post it in the ramblings of the wise.
If it is a general question then you could post it in the white padded room.

A religion forums wouldn't be too active and most religious discussions or questions are in some form of debate so it would just go in the ROTW forum anyway. Overall a religion forum isn't all the needed.

http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2038616#post2038616

EDIT: I don't really think it will be active either nor do I see this as necessary...

Cycling Penguin

December 1st, 2012, 12:17 PM

Why did you vote NO. It's a good idea. Well done who voted yes!

chiliguy

December 1st, 2012, 12:35 PM

ImCoolBeans

December 1st, 2012, 01:03 PM

If you'd like to discuss religion or politics you can do so in Ramblings of the wise, for more of a debate, or the White Padded Room for more of a general discussion. I don't think adding two new sections is really necessary, nor are either of these topics a priority on the site. After all, this is a help site.

Error 404

December 1st, 2012, 01:16 PM

I think it would be good because it would teach other about the multi cultural society

Google.There's a bunch load of religion forums I'm sure, and as ImCoolBeans said, this is after all - a help forum.

Why did you vote NO. It's a good idea.

Wait, what?Why did you add a poll if you already know the answer to your own question?
Erm, i voted no, i don't see a need for it, since there is a debate forum, and if someone needs more info - there is Wikipedia and Google.

Jess

December 1st, 2012, 01:21 PM

Wait, what?Why did you add a poll if you already know the answer to your own question?
Erm, i voted no, i don't see a need for it, since there is a debate forum, and if someone needs more info - there is Wikipedia and Google.

He's asking others if it's a good idea

Stronger

December 1st, 2012, 01:36 PM

I voted no as well, and Mike basically summed up all the reasons why I voted no; this is a help site, not a "General Discussions" one.

Cycling Penguin

December 1st, 2012, 01:50 PM

I think we should have a forum about religion and a forum about politics too. I don't really believe in any religion, but I find them really interesting! I'll learn things I didn't know. Like, I have no idea what Buddhism is about..

This is why it's such a good idea. Even if a small among of people view it (a few thousand posts in comparison to the 100 thousand of the puberty forums), it would still teach people about other faiths. E.g. I could tell chiliguy loads about Buddhism. Also I like the idea of the politics forum as well. Having that will introduce young people, to the more grown up world of politics. Maybe if we can't have 2 individual forums we can have a combined one

Jess

December 1st, 2012, 02:18 PM

Then you can post a thread in TWPR about Buddhism or maybe in ROTW so people can ask questions. Same thing with politics. There doesn't need to be whole forum sections for them.

Iron Man

December 1st, 2012, 03:08 PM

A large majority of VT is Atheist/Agnostic. Alas, those forums would largely be uninhabited. Any religion debate can work in Ramblings of the Wise.

Texas warrior

December 1st, 2012, 03:12 PM

Even if it didn't get a lot of traffic, it would still be cool to have a place spicifcly for religion and spirituality.

Lost in the Echo

December 1st, 2012, 03:20 PM

Why did you vote NO. It's a good idea. Well done who voted yes!

Well everyone is entitled to their own opinion, you know?

And like what has been said, if you want to discuss religion, then you can do it in the ramblings of the wise forum, religion is frequently discussed there.

Also, if we were to make a religions forum, and have a sub-forum for each religion, then that would probably make up about 100 sub-forums, as there is a lot of different religions.
Also, having that many sub-forums would take up a shitload of the server space.

But yeah, if you want to discuss religion or society, any of that shit, then the ramblings of the wise would be a great place to discuss that.

A religion forum isn't really needed.

Gandalf

December 1st, 2012, 07:14 PM

I think it would be a good idea, it would allow users with the same faith to discuss items more meaningful and related to their religion, without risk of flaming by debate in ROTW, which isn't actually always the nicest of places to post in, so I think a religion forum would be more popular than first thought.

But then again, the user could create a user forum once they qualify and have a religion theme, and there are the choices to post in ROTW or TWPR but I think they don't really fit what the OP is looking for.

So in short, there are alternatives, but a devoted forum may be more helpful to some users needs. :)

Infidelitas

December 1st, 2012, 10:19 PM

Most religious threads end up as a debate anyway, so just put them in ROTW anyway. If wouldn't have enough traffic.

If you like, you could request a member forum for it.

shatter..

December 2nd, 2012, 12:09 PM

It's a great idea, it needn't be a debate if that's a little iffy. It could be friendly discussion between curious people. I would love to learn specifically about types of religions. I could help set it up as well. :)

PinkFloyd

December 2nd, 2012, 12:28 PM

I think it's a god idea because religions like Islam and Judiasm are VERY mis-understood and a forum about it would educate people.

DerBear

December 2nd, 2012, 01:09 PM

I think either a diary or a social group would be best. Most religious discussions (even if they are intent on being used as learning tool) become debates. Overall, an entire section devoted to religion isn't needed.

It'd be pretty inactive. You could make a thread in a diary. There are a couple of diaries that are suitable for this. For example the diary "Just Curious" or something like that would be a nice place to ask religious questions or create discussions. Or you could create a diary. However there is a waiting list I think.

Overall an entire section isn't needed.

Mysterious Skin

December 22nd, 2012, 01:17 AM

The reason i voted "no" is because, as most of human history proves Religion can cause "trouble"

nutjob

December 22nd, 2012, 02:06 AM

Can't we just stick to religious social groups? I voted no. :)

Jupiter

December 22nd, 2012, 02:50 PM

A large majority of VT is Atheist/Agnostic. Alas, those forums would largely be uninhabited. Any religion debate can work in Ramblings of the Wise.

who said they wanted a debate?

maybe if there was a religious section they could say "please no debating religion" and then ya know. just like no drug pushing or anything. you know what i mean?

i'd say yes because though there is a large community that is atheist/agnostic, it could be used for other people.

EDIT- sorry i didn't see this thread is kinda old

Mirage

December 22nd, 2012, 03:50 PM

This would be a bad idea. This is a help forum, not a religion forum.

DerBear

December 22nd, 2012, 05:06 PM

who said they wanted a debate?

maybe if there was a religious section they could say "please no debating religion" and then ya know. just like no drug pushing or anything. you know what i mean?

i'd say yes because though there is a large community that is atheist/agnostic, it could be used for other people.

EDIT- sorry i didn't see this thread is kinda old

A thread could easily be created in the white padded room or a diary that specifically says no debating.

TigerBoy

December 22nd, 2012, 05:54 PM

No, because if there's no debating you would just get post wars with no dialogue. Its what happens in the real world, after all.

View A offends poster B
Poster B posts their religion's view to contradict view A
Poster A posts something even more contentious and brings religion C into it.
Poster B and C each post further views ...
Flaming begins.

And don't get me started about what happens when atheists start posting ;-)

If there is to be debating then we already have a debate forum for that, and religion typically gets brought into many of those debates naturally anyway. If it isn't a debate but more a proselytising / op-ed type thing then maybe WPR would suit.

crispxtra

January 20th, 2013, 05:45 PM

Personally, I think it is a bad idea because religious discussions will turn into more of a debate and will turn into online fights and people's feelings will get hurt with other people strong opinons. I have incredibly strong opinions about religion and voicing my opinion online without know my inflection can be offensive and it isn't needed. This is a help site not a bash other religions site, because that is what it will turn into and we all know it.

Twilly F. Sniper

January 21st, 2013, 08:07 PM

Voted no, its already covered pretty much.

PerpetualImperfexion

January 21st, 2013, 09:39 PM

Sorry, any discussion about religion ends in an argument, even if it wasn't intended.

Wow! It was tied before i voted. Interesting how divided it is....

StoneColdNicky

January 22nd, 2013, 05:32 AM

I must have tied it up again, Contrivance!

I actually think that the fact it could end in an argument is cause TO have it as a category, so as to keep those arguments out of whatever forum they might stem from. They say religion is one of the topics we shouldn't discuss to avoid offending people, but people do anyway, and offend, so why not keep discussions that might offend or annoy some elsewhere.

That said, I would only be for the forum if there were a demand for it. I don't care about offending people and enjoy a religious discussion and debate, but I haven't seen a lot of it on any of the forum categories here. If there were lots of religious discussion here, it could be a good idea, but until then there probably isn't a need for it.

Lunar

January 22nd, 2013, 07:02 AM

Whenever you bring religions into the topic, people start to fight. So I don't think we should make a religions forum.

Emerald Dream

January 22nd, 2013, 08:21 AM

No, because we already have ROTW. Simple enough.

Burn007

January 22nd, 2013, 02:49 PM

Just overall bad idea....really....There would be wars here aswell....and thats not what VT needs :P

Jupiter

January 22nd, 2013, 03:46 PM

This would be a bad idea. This is a help forum, not a religion forum.

and if they need help with religion?

also, maybe the reason every religious discussion is brought up ends in a debate is because they're in rotw. that does happen to be the debate section...

Human

January 22nd, 2013, 06:41 PM

keep it in ramblings of the wise... if you have a religion forum, people who oppose it are going to come in and debate anyway

Lyra Heartstrings

January 22nd, 2013, 11:47 PM

Someone care to answer me this?
What would come of a religion forum? I've yet to see what it would be used for. I can almost guarantee any reason would work perfectly in a diary.

Jupiter

January 23rd, 2013, 12:11 AM

Someone care to answer me this?
What would come of a religion forum? I've yet to see what it would be used for. I can almost guarantee any reason would work perfectly in a diary.

religious questions?

Lyra Heartstrings

January 23rd, 2013, 12:29 AM

religious questions?

Because that can't go in a diary.

PinkFloyd

January 23rd, 2013, 12:43 AM

Yep. I agree. I mean look at the Islam religion. A good chunk of people think they run around yelling gibberish and blowing them selfes up along with other un suspecting people at tourist attractions. How about the Christian religion? A lot of people think they are super homophobic when most are really not. That's just a crazy family in Kansas. These statements are totally untrue! I think a religion forum would be a good idea because would educate people that these steriotypes are just flat out dumb and need to be forgot.

Lyra Heartstrings

January 23rd, 2013, 12:45 AM

PinkFloyd

January 23rd, 2013, 12:46 AM

Common sense would tell you that these are the extremists of the religion. Even then, get educated in a diary.

Yeah, I see what you're saying.

Jess

January 23rd, 2013, 01:14 AM

I stand by my previous opinion. There's no need for one..and didn't Mike already declare there won't be one? He's an admin after all and I think he made the final decision already? *shrugs*

Jupiter

January 23rd, 2013, 07:10 AM

Common sense would tell you that these are the extremists of the religion. Even then, get educated in a diary.

a diary is almost never permanent.

Lyra Heartstrings

January 23rd, 2013, 12:35 PM

a diary is almost never permanent.

If the diary isn't permanent, it's not getting traffic, therefore questions aren't being asked, therefore the forum is not helpful.

Jupiter

January 23rd, 2013, 02:28 PM

If the diary isn't permanent, it's not getting traffic, therefore questions aren't being asked, therefore the forum is not helpful.

well, i mean look at the OCD forum. it's not very active.

same with bipolar, same with ADD/ADHD

StoppingTime

January 23rd, 2013, 02:30 PM

well, i mean look at the OCD forum. it's not very active.

same with bipolar, same with ADD/ADHD

Those forums are there because they further our goal as a help site. Adding a religion forum where people would just hash each other (like they do in current religion threads) has no purpose.

Jupiter

January 23rd, 2013, 02:31 PM

Those forums are there because they further our goal as a help site. Adding a religion forum where people would just hash each other (like they do in current religion threads) has no purpose.

but you guys, what i'm saying is this is a help forum.

we can all agree on that. but what i'm trying to get across is that some people want help with their religion and whatnot and the only place for it to go is ROTW. that obviously leads to debates because it is the debate section.

Lyra Heartstrings

January 23rd, 2013, 02:33 PM

well, i mean look at the OCD forum. it's not very active.

same with bipolar, same with ADD/ADHD

Well, if the Religion forum won't help anyone, and won't get traffic..what's the point?

but you guys, what i'm saying is this is a help forum.

we can all agree on that. but what i'm trying to get across is that some people want help with their religion and whatnot and the only place for it to go is ROTW. that obviously leads to debates because it is the debate section.

It can be placed in a dairy/TWPR.

Jupiter

January 23rd, 2013, 02:37 PM

Well, if the Religion forum won't help anyone, and won't get traffic..what's the point?

It can be placed in a dairy/TWPR.

but when religious threads are placed in TWPR, they are sent to rotw. ive seen it before.

anyways, it seems that even though these people voted yes, they don't care enough to fight for it, and if they don't care then i don't care. i just don't see what the big deal about a religious section is. it's not like it's offensive or anything and it would only be helpful. i never said it wouldn't NOT help anyone. so yeah.

Lyra Heartstrings

January 23rd, 2013, 02:40 PM

but when religious threads are placed in TWPR, they are sent to rotw. ive seen it before.

anyways, it seems that even though these people voted yes, they don't care enough to fight for it, and if they don't care then i don't care. i just don't see what the big deal about a religious section is. it's not like it's offensive or anything and it would only be helpful. i never said it wouldn't NOT help anyone. so yeah.

And I really don't think it would help anyone. It will only cause arguements.

Jupiter

January 23rd, 2013, 02:43 PM

And I really don't think it would help anyone. It will only cause arguements.

well i disagree.

Wonder.

January 23rd, 2013, 02:50 PM

I think it could be useful, but as it has been stated my many people before: it will most likely end in an argument. If somebody wanted to make a thread in TWPR and say in the very beginning that they don't want a debate, most people would comply. If anyone did state a difference of opinion, someone could tell them to not start an argument or they could redirect the person to a thread in ROTW.

I also think a diary would work well too. Just because it isn't permanent doesn't mean that people won't get help from it.

katelyn97

February 18th, 2013, 02:47 AM

Yes religion causes debate sometimes but if you dont believe in what that person believes in you dont have to go into that forum, I think this is an amazing idea and yes this is a place for help not general posts but it could be for both and how do you know people dont need help in that area? Sometimes I think it would be amazing if you could talk and ask for help from people who might respond in a way that is direct to your religion, help from teens in general is amazing and theres many areas that religious answers arent needed but I personally love to get help or talk with other Christians, compare religions and just learn lots, I think its an amazing Idea and definitly vote yes, And as i said if people are for example an athiest posting in the Christian forum to debate then thats their choice, theres no reason there should be debates if people respect what others believe in:)

Pierce

February 18th, 2013, 04:31 PM

Religion is a very delicate subject. I think it would cause far too many prolems.

VictoriaGotaSecret

February 18th, 2013, 07:10 PM

I don't think so, I had a friend I know from school banned because he got into a fight with someone about religion

slimboy1997

February 18th, 2013, 10:25 PM

I vote NO simply because in my opinion, I feel that it would become more of a debate section rather than a religion section.

CoolKid97

March 10th, 2013, 04:56 PM

I belong to another site similar to this and they have a Religion forum. No one argues or says this religion is better. So why can't we give it a try? At least in all the public and private schools I've gone to they teach you about religion and the bible. We read it in English class. So why can't we do it online?