Spiteful against parents...

[Skyline]

Recently I have started feeling angry at my parents because they got me circumcised when I was a baby. I know that they were probably "doing what's best for me." I just think that the fact that I had no say in it (I know I couldn't talk as a baby) isn't right. The fact that I will never know what its like to have a foreskin kind of pushes my buttons. Although I know what is done is done and there is nothing I can do about it. Do you think that my thinking is some what justified or that I am making it more than it needs to be?

[Castle of Glass]

well, i see where you are going with this, but, from what i have heard, it is safer to get someone circumcised when they are younger. it can still be done as the person gets older, but it is just safer when they are younger.

[Sph2015]

I say you're making a mountain out of a mole hill. Does it really matter in the scheme of things? I get that it bugs you, but I'd spend your time dealing with more pressing issues. Don't sweat it dude.

[Allain1996]

Your feelings are justified, but at the same time your parents obviously felt that being circumcised was what was best for you.
Don't hold it against them 16 years later, because as you said, what's done is done. You can't change it so why make a problem over it. It won't accomplish you anything.

[GuillaumeBordeaux]

You can go through foreskin restoration. Also, make your feelings known to your parents, don't let this fester or these feelings will get worse. Do some research on the anatomy and functions of the foreskin and show the research to your parents so they know that they've made a decision that negatively impacts your sexual capabilities and that it's nothing more than sexual control. Your feelings are valid, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

[FergusDunn]

Recently I have started feeling angry at my parents because they got me circumcised when I was a baby. I know that they were probably "doing what's best for me." I just think that the fact that I had no say in it (I know I couldn't talk as a baby) isn't right. The fact that I will never know what its like to have a foreskin kind of pushes my buttons. Although I know what is done is done and there is nothing I can do about it. Do you think that my thinking is some what justified or that I am making it more than it needs to be?


I guess you know how you feel and no one can say really if you are making more than needs be.

That said I think you should at least try and talk to your parents about it
say how you feel and why -

[teen.jpg]

There are more important issues in life. Fuhgeddaboudit.

[niceguy887]

well, i see where you are going with this, but, from what i have heard, it is safer to get someone circumcised when they are younger. it can still be done as the person gets older, but it is just safer when they are younger.

How about, don't get it done at all?

[niceguy887]

Recently I have started feeling angry at my parents because they got me circumcised when I was a baby. I know that they were probably "doing what's best for me." I just think that the fact that I had no say in it (I know I couldn't talk as a baby) isn't right. The fact that I will never know what its like to have a foreskin kind of pushes my buttons. Although I know what is done is done and there is nothing I can do about it. Do you think that my thinking is some what justified or that I am making it more than it needs to be?

Use your anger for something positive. If and when you become a father, don't put your boys through the same thing. Only by changing attitudes in this way can this barbaric practice finally be put to bed along with lobotomies.

[Backflipboy]

I absolutely despise unnecessary circumcision. I was cut for medical reasons but I truly think that doing it to your children for no reason at all is evil. Thankfully you can restore now, there are several people on VT who are successfully restoring (you have to be over eighteen). When I reach eighteen I will begin restoring also. I am not angry about my circumcision because it was my only option, without it my penis probably wouldn't work today.

[Its_edward_guys]

I see what you're saying but you need to just calm down some. It's easiest for the parents to decide right then and there to have you circumcised as opposed to having to deal with it later on due to an infection. Worry about more important things and just try to forget about it. :)

[Aris]

You have 60% less chances to get HIV virus if you are circumcised and there are also some other "ilnesses" that you CANT get (100%) if you are circumcised ... Research all the PROS about being circumcised and you will start thinking saying thanks ...

[GuillaumeBordeaux]

You have 60% less chances to get HIV virus if you are circumcised and there are also some other "ilnesses" that you CANT get (100%) if you are circumcised ... Research all the PROS about being circumcised and you will start thinking saying thanks ...

All those diseases can be prevented with proper hygiene and safe sex.
Research the anatomy and function of the foreskin and all it does for intercourse and sexual pleasure.
You have every right to be angry!

[Eric57]

If you want my honest opinion, there are more important things to worry about in life. What's done is done. It may bug you, but don't let it bug you too much. Because like I said, what's done is done. And honestly, most girls prefer a circumcised penis anyways. I know it's not about what others like, but that is the truth.

[PrimedPenguin]

I know it may bug you but there are more important things to worry about. I was cut as a baby and I realy don't care to much about it. The less you think about it the less it will matter. Trust me I used to think the same way as you.

[DerBear]

Honestly, why feel angry over something that has been done? I mean really when you think about it you were young and your parents made the choice for you. Its quite often a massive birth tradition in the USA and other countries.

Honestly, why feel mad? I mean you'll never know what its like but since you haven't had the experience then why stay mad?

Really though you are getting yourself worked up over something that you don't need to be worked up over. I mean sure they did it but, you wouldn't want to go through the pain of getting it done when you're old enough to fully register and remember it.

Don't be mad, its something that is done ages ago and is over with. All your doing is stressing yourself out and causing a strain with you and your parents relationship.

[GuillaumeBordeaux]

@CGsim You will hear some things from time to time.
1) get over it
2) it's done, why be angry
3) most girls prefer it

in response
1) you don't have to, you can do something about it
2) it was done to you against your will, be angry
3) false, about 85% of the world's male population are intact (uncircumcised) so, about 85% of the worlds female population obvious prefer uncut guys, or that number would be different.

[Castle of Glass]

How about, don't get it done at all?

of course that is an option always. i never said it wasn't. some people just don't like the foreskin

[GuillaumeBordeaux]

of course that is an option always. i never said it wasn't. some people just don't like the foreskin
And it should be those individuals who get to decide to get circumcised, it shouldn't be forced on them, they might want it later.

[Castle of Glass]

And it should be those individuals who get to decide to get circumcised, it shouldn't be forced on them, they might want it later.

that is true also

[leafgreenangel]

you need to let go of it. I think because we weren't given the choice you may be mad for a while, but it will pass. I know I have a fascination with uncut penises because I was circumcised at birth as well

[Cicero]

Your being pretty immature about it, honestly. You cannot be mad at your parents for that, I'm circumcised and sure, sometimes I wanna know what it's like having a foreskin like those uncircumcised. But I'm not gonna be made at my parents with something that's not even a big deal. Having a foreskin can cause a few health problems if its not really clean. There are also proper ways of cleaning it, whereas if you have no foreskin, all you have to do is treat it like any other part.

So all I can say is just get over it. There is actually a way that you can get your 'foreskin' back. Its more artificial, and it won't get back the sensitivity you originally would have had. But if you like the look, its worth looking into.

[GuillaumeBordeaux]

Your being pretty immature about it, honestly. You cannot be mad at your parents for that, I'm circumcised and sure, sometimes I wanna know what it's like having a foreskin like those uncircumcised. But I'm not gonna be made at my parents with something that's not even a big deal. Having a foreskin can cause a few health problems if its not really clean. There are also proper ways of cleaning it, whereas if you have no foreskin, all you have to do is treat it like any other part.

So all I can say is just get over it. There is actually a way that you can get your 'foreskin' back. Its more artificial, and it won't get back the sensitivity you originally would have had. But if you like the look, its worth looking into.
Actually, foreskin restoration (nonsurgical, the tension method) brings back all the sensitivity in the head of the penis and gives you back the gliding skin and the moisture, so sex is more enjoyable (both intercourse and masturbation). Also, with this whole, "get over it" that everyone is saying, there's a lot that goes into cutting off the foreskin, the majority of sexual pleasure and stimulation can be found in it, so yeah, i'd be pretty pissed and I'd make it known to my parents. And actually, you can still get UTI's without a foreskin, it's not a prevention.

[Cicero]

Actually, foreskin restoration (nonsurgical, the tension method) brings back all the sensitivity in the head of the penis and gives you back the gliding skin and the moisture, so sex is more enjoyable (both intercourse and masturbation). Also, with this whole, "get over it" that everyone is saying, there's a lot that goes into cutting off the foreskin, the majority of sexual pleasure and stimulation can be found in it, so yeah, i'd be pretty pissed and I'd make it known to my parents. And actually, you can still get UTI's without a foreskin, it's not a prevention.

The non surgical procedure your talking about consisting of strapping some type of contraption thing on the penis, then pulling it to the thigh region. That does not return sensitivity. It was featured on the doctors show and they said it does return the foreskin. But does not make the sensitivity cells return. It would be kinda immature being mad at your parents for getting you cut.

[Oukakystan95]

I wish my parents didnt get me circumsized but im not mad about it but hormones do have mood swings it might just pass over and youll laugh about it one day

[GuillaumeBordeaux]

The non surgical procedure your talking about consisting of strapping some type of contraption thing on the penis, then pulling it to the thigh region. That does not return sensitivity. It was featured on the doctors show and they said it does return the foreskin. But does not make the sensitivity cells return. It would be kinda immature being mad at your parents for getting you cut.
How is it angry to be mad at someone who allowed you to be strapped down and cut up for no reason? how is it angry to be mad that you won't ever experience sex to it's full capacity as nature intended?

Foreskin restoration, once completed to the stage that it the new skin covers the head of the penis 24/7, removes the build up skin on the head of the penis through a process called dekeratinization. The dry thickened skin comes off revealing the glans penis as supple, moist, pink in colour and extremely sensitive, as sensitive as it was supposed to be. The original foreskin and it's 20,000 nerve endings were cut away, we know this, but the only thing that happened to the head of the penis is that now it's exposed to the outside world so it builds up toughened skin to protect it. The head of the penis was always meant to be an internal organ, only coming out for sexual intercourse and masturbation.

Also, restoring gives the male back the tube of skin and it aids in intercourse making sex comfortable for the man and woman (or man and man) and it's really fun for masturbation as well. Sex was never meant to be done with a circumcised penis, hence why it gets really uncomfortable after a while with drying out and chaffing. Google anatomy and functions of the foreskin.

[Aajj333]

While I wish my parents would have left me uncut, I think you are making a big deal about it. There are more important Things in the world

[Cicero]

How is it angry to be mad at someone who allowed you to be strapped down and cut up for no reason? how is it angry to be mad that you won't ever experience sex to it's full capacity as nature intended?

Foreskin restoration, once completed to the stage that it the new skin covers the head of the penis 24/7, removes the build up skin on the head of the penis through a process called dekeratinization. The dry thickened skin comes off revealing the glans penis as supple, moist, pink in colour and extremely sensitive, as sensitive as it was supposed to be. The original foreskin and it's 20,000 nerve endings were cut away, we know this, but the only thing that happened to the head of the penis is that now it's exposed to the outside world so it builds up toughened skin to protect it. The head of the penis was always meant to be an internal organ, only coming out for sexual intercourse and masturbation.

Also, restoring gives the male back the tube of skin and it aids in intercourse making sex comfortable for the man and woman (or man and man) and it's really fun for masturbation as well. Sex was never meant to be done with a circumcised penis, hence why it gets really uncomfortable after a while with drying out and chaffing. Google anatomy and functions of the foreskin.

lol
It wasn't "always meant to be an internal organ". A lot of guys masturbate without lube too. And it doesn't make masturbation 'more fun'. In fact, pulling back the foreskin can be rather painful, and sex can, at times, pull back the foreskin. And it barely makes sense saying:How is it angry to be mad at someone who allowed you to be strapped down and cut up for no reason? how is it angry to be mad that you won't ever experience sex to it's full capacity as nature intended?

I dont get it, "how is it angry"? What's that supposed to mean? lol

[Skyline]

Your being pretty immature about it, honestly. You cannot be mad at your parents for that, I'm circumcised and sure, sometimes I wanna know what it's like having a foreskin like those uncircumcised. But I'm not gonna be made at my parents with something that's not even a big deal. Having a foreskin can cause a few health problems if its not really clean. There are also proper ways of cleaning it, whereas if you have no foreskin, all you have to do is treat it like any other part.

So all I can say is just get over it. There is actually a way that you can get your 'foreskin' back. Its more artificial, and it won't get back the sensitivity you originally would have had. But if you like the look, its worth looking into.

I don't think calling me immature was really called for, I mean come on, I am voicing how I feel and get slandered for it. Am I supposed to be happy about having something that I may never get back taken away. The way I see it, getting a child unnecessarily circumcised in a way is like forcing your child to get a career they do not care for. It should be the kids choice on what they do with their life, sure its okay to give them a few nudges here and there but don't make them bend to your every will.

For those that answered this seriously without insulting me I thank you for your words of advice, they have helped.

[Cicero]

I don't think calling me immature was really called for, I mean come on, I am voicing how I feel and get slandered for it. Am I supposed to be happy about having something that I may never get back taken away. The way I see it, getting a child unnecessarily circumcised in a way is like forcing your child to get a career they do not care for. It should be the kids choice on what they do with their life, sure its okay to give them a few nudges here and there but don't make them bend to your every will.

For those that answered this seriously without insulting me I thank you for your words of advice, they have helped.

I didn't call you immature. I said that its immature being mad at them.

[GuillaumeBordeaux]

lol
It wasn't "always meant to be an internal organ". A lot of guys masturbate without lube too. And it doesn't make masturbation 'more fun'. In fact, pulling back the foreskin can be rather painful, and sex can, at times, pull back the foreskin. And it barely makes sense saying:

I dont get it, "how is it angry"? What's that supposed to mean? lol
Just as the clitoris is covered with the clitoral hood, so too is the glans meant to be covered. Evolutionarily speaking, the purpose of the foreskin is to keep the glans safe and protected and to moisturize it and keep it clean. When the penis becomes erect, it unfurls and the head is exposed for stimulation. Just look up the functions and purpose of the foreskin.

Also, I mean how is it immature to be angry. Obviously. And resorting to humor is a defense mechanism one may use when one is backed into a corner. You can't dispute the facts of what a foreskin is, does, and has always done, and what it can't do when it's cut off. To excise it permanently adversely affects the sexual capabilities of the child who will be a man.

[Cicero]

Just as the clitoris is covered with the clitoral hood, so too is the glans meant to be covered. Evolutionarily speaking, the purpose of the foreskin is to keep the glans safe and protected and to moisturize it and keep it clean. When the penis becomes erect, it unfurls and the head is exposed for stimulation. Just look up the functions and purpose of the foreskin.

Also, I mean how is it immature to be angry. Obviously. And resorting to humor is a defense mechanism one may use when one is backed into a corner. You can't dispute the facts of what a foreskin is, does, and has always done, and what it can't do when it's cut off. To excise it permanently adversely affects the sexual capabilities of the child who will be a man.

It doesn't affect sexual performance much. It's pretty stupid being mad at your parents for making a smart health decision. Having a foreskin can also cause infection. Many religions require circumcision due to the fact that it can contract infection. There are tons of males out there who have to get circumcised because of problems with the foreskin. This has kinda gotten off topic.

[GuillaumeBordeaux]

It doesn't affect sexual performance much. It's pretty stupid being mad at your parents for making a smart health decision. Having a foreskin can also cause infection. Many religions require circumcision due to the fact that it can contract infection. There are tons of males out there who have to get circumcised because of problems with the foreskin. This has kinda gotten off topic.

Yes it has and it has been derailed by nonsensical nonfactual blind statements. Let's see....Judaism requires it to maintain the covenant with Yahweh, Islam doesn't require it (it's not mentioned in the Quaran) but people do it because Muhammed was born without a foreskin and told people to do it, it's not a requirement to be Christian but many Christian do it. There are various tribes around the world who practice this for religious or cultural reasons. And the only people in ancient times who practiced it for health reasons were the desert people. They did it specifically to keep sand out because water wasn't readily available to bathe in. ;]
Also, as far as a smart health choice, there are no significant health benefits that warrant this procedure. Any health risks such as uncleanliness or supposed increased risks of contracting of passing on various STI's can be remedied with education on how to clean one's self and proper safe sex education. Removal of the foreskin doesn't prevent anything aside from Phimosis or Paraphimosis, and those can be treated without removing the foreskin. Know your facts and please, please research what you think you know.

Also, it removes about half the skin of the penis, taking the gliding function away and the stimulation it brings, it removes the 20,000 nerve endings in the foreskin and it leads to a keratinized head of the penis which is less sensitive than one that belongs to an uncircumcised penis. By definition and practice, it affects performance. Also, research Dr.John Kellogg, he started Circumcision in mainstream America, for the sole purpose of stopping boys from circumcision.

@OP the world of knowledge is at your fingers. Research this, gather your evidence and share it with your parents and make them regret ever carving their ignorance into your penis.

[Cicero]

Yes it has and it has been derailed by nonsensical nonfactual blind statements. Let's see....Judaism requires it to maintain the covenant with Yahweh, Islam doesn't require it (it's not mentioned in the Quaran) but people do it because Muhammed was born witouth a foreskin and told people to do it, it's not a requirement to be Christian but many Christian do it. There are various tribes around the world who practice this for religious or cultural reasons. And the only people in ancient times who practiced it for health reasons were the desert people. They did it specifically to keep sand out because water wasn't readily available to bathe in. ;]
Also, as far as a smart health choice, there are no significant health benefits that warrant this procedure. Any health risks such as uncleanliness or supposed increased risks of contracting of passing on various STI's can be remedied with education on how to clean one's self and proper safe sex education. Removal of the foreskin doesn't prevent anything aside from Phimosis or Paraphimosis, and those can be treated without removing the foreskin. Know your facts and please, please research what you think you know.

Also, it removes about half the skin of the penis, taking the gliding function away and the stimulation it brings, it removes the 20,000 nerve endings in the foreskin and it leads to a keratinized head of the penis which is less sensitive than one that belongs to an uncircumcised penis. By definition and practice, it affects performance. Also, research Dr.John Kellogg, he started Circumcision in mainstream America, for the sole purpose of stopping boys from circumcision.

@OP the world of knowledge is at your fingers. Research this, gather your evidence and share it with your parents and make them regret ever carving their ignorance into your penis.

I was much hoping to save my 2,000 post on something more worthy than this thread. But guess I didn't.
make them regret ever carving their ignorance into your penis.
That sounds so ridiculously ignorant and immature. It sounds like your actually joking or trying to be funny, but sadly I can tell your not.

To neg rep:

It's not ignorant, and the funny part is, is that you actually positive repped me, when you were meaning to neg rep me. So thanks ;) It's not called ignorance, its called be mature enough not to have a grudge against something someone did decades ago.

[GuillaumeBordeaux]

Why would I joke? This is no joking matter. o-o It'd be a different story if he were a woman and he was feeling angry at his parents for holding him down and cutting his genitals to pieces, wouldn't it? We have this mindset that the male genitals are somehow inherently wrong and need to be fixed when in fact they're perfect as nature intended it. There's nothing wrong with the intact penis, and no one should be content with having this forced on them. Female infants are protected, male infants should be too.

[Dark Blue]

Why would I joke? This is no joking matter. o-o It'd be a different story if he were a woman and he was feeling angry at his parents for holding him down and cutting his genitals to pieces, wouldn't it? We have this mindset that the male genitals are somehow inherently wrong and need to be fixed when in fact they're perfect as nature intended it. There's nothing wrong with the intact penis, and no one should be content with having this forced on them. Female infants are protected, male infants should be too.


Its not about something getting "fixed", its just becoming a common tradition for parents to do to their kid. There is really nothing to be mad over. The penis's function is to aid in reproduction, a circumcised penis can reproduce just like an uncircumcised one can. Your pushing him to feel more angry about something that is did, done and over with.

Now to start my point, being circumcised really isn't bad at all...what parent wants his kid to deal with issues such as tight foreskin and dirt under the skin? It can be embarrassing for a younger child to deal with.

[GuillaumeBordeaux]

It's not common in the world. 85% of the males in the world are intact. And as all my previous posts have said, when one researches what was taken away and knows that it's more than "just skin", yeah, people have the right to get mad. There are major political movements in many countries trying to ban this for minors so parents can't force it on them. And circumcision rates are actually declining in our country. They used to be 90% in the 70's, now they're down to about 35-50%, so it's becoming a common tradition to leave one's son intact.

[Dark Blue]

Circumcision does NOT hurt you. It does not hinder you from doing anything. Sure its just more than skin but its not like it puts uncircumcised people at an advantage over those who are. What is there to get mad over? And I have no clue where you are getting your statistics from but they dont seem accurate.

If the original poster is so upset over his parents decision then I feel like he should be the one paying to get it restored if its that big of a deal. His mother gave birth to him, it should be her choice to get him circumcised.

[GuillaumeBordeaux]

These statistics are fact, research them for yourself instead of trying to discredit someone who has researched this very in depth. And if you really want to learn what circumcision does, research the functions of the foreskin and how intercourse works with an uncircumcised penis, along with masturbation. It, by definition, alters sexual function and by practice decreases sexual pleasure.

Can I pick your brain? What percent of the world do you think leaves their sons intact? Click this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circumcision#Prevalence
The only people who do this on such a grand scale are the US, South Korea, the Middle East (and most Islamic countries) Israel and various parts of Africa. It's definitely not a universal thing by any margin.
While you're on wikipedia, search foreskin and read the sexual functions.
Read it thoroughly, start to finish. It explains the gliding mechanisms, the sexual sensitivity and the protection it provides.

Wiki answers: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_the_functions_of_the_foreskin

Also, statistics vary, this Wikipedia page estimates that roughly 1/3 of the world's male population are circumcised. Other sources sat it's closer to 80% are intact. I personally believe it is 85% as in many places, the rate of circumcision is declining (including here in the US) So yeah, I've researched this, whereas you simply retort with stuff you've been fed to try and justify circumcision.

[Gigablue]

Your parents probably meant well, and being mad is counterproductive. If you want, you can undergo foreskin restoration, which can restore many of the functions of the foreskin. The foreskin isn't necessary, though it has benefits, and you can live fine without it. I think that you have the right to be mad, but you should forgive your parents, who were probably just doing what they thought was best for you.

[sdude]

Your anger is misdirected.. It is the medical Society and doctors perpetuating this barbaric unnecessary practice. Sorry it happened, happened to me too...My Dad is a doctor and he now agrees with me that it was unnecessary and poor judgment. I'm more against the parents out there determining it is something to have done to their OLDER children, of puberty age, where it really is stupid.

[oneDay]

Even without bias on the subject it is easy to come to the conclusion that circumcision is unnecessary unless the foreskin poses a threat to the body at a given time. It's good to know that circumcised males are not all bothered by their circumcision but that alone isn't a reason to defend it. Not having a foreskin doesn't prove any health benefits if their penis has always been in that state since they were a baby.

I agree with people who feel it should be a choice. It's possible for a child (around 8-12) could make this decision for themselves without future regret, at least they chose for themselves. Yes, you may not have the answer to religious issues or provide a solution for our country's economic obstacles at that age (the scale of these problems may be out of your comprehension) but at least you know your own body better than any of these things; you have the will to control what happens to it. But this is just an extreme example. Teenagers, like any adult, should be given the option to have a circumcision at their age under their own terms as long as they're never needlessly forced to have it done only days out of the womb.

I don't wish to complicate this thread but I honestly feel people need to give it thought and use reason to provide themselves with a supportable conclusion. Asking the most simple questions can get you there: What is a circumcision? Who is it done to and for what reason(s)? Where and when did it originate? What are the positives and negatives to it? What role does religion play in the determining of the practice? Why are so many people against and and so many for it? Why is it so easily allowed that a "Mohel" can preform the surgery in place of a licensed surgeon? - Questions are a lot more useful than they seem.

Adam your frustration is justified but it would help to educate yourself as much as you can and your parents as well. This post is for you and anyone else on this thread, so I hope it helps.