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Professional Russian
November 17th, 2012, 12:24 PM
Is Hunting a good thing or a bad thing?
Twilly F. Sniper
November 17th, 2012, 12:27 PM
Depends. On two factors.
Sport-bad.
FOOD-obviously good.
Emerald Dream
November 17th, 2012, 12:39 PM
Not my choice of hobbies, but I can see why people like it. I don't have anything against it.
Danny_boi 16
November 17th, 2012, 12:41 PM
Hunting is totally fine, just don't wipe out the entire species ;)
oh, remember to use every part of the animal.
Gigablue
November 17th, 2012, 03:07 PM
As long as the animals are killed humanely and people don't hunt too many in a certain area, it's fine.
Professional Russian
November 17th, 2012, 03:11 PM
As long as the animals are killed humanely and people don't hunt too many in a certain area, it's fine.
Define "humanely"
TheBigUnit
November 17th, 2012, 03:25 PM
Hunting great, poaching bad
Gigablue
November 17th, 2012, 04:12 PM
Define "humanely"
Quickly and with as little pain as possible.
Taryn98
November 17th, 2012, 05:09 PM
I've never done it, but here in Wisconsin it's pretty much a way of life in the fall. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Professional Russian
November 17th, 2012, 05:10 PM
Quickly and with as little pain as possible.
That's what I thought
workingatperfect
November 17th, 2012, 05:21 PM
If it's for sport, I'm against it. If you're hunting because you need to, for food and other things, then I don't have a problem with that.
Enthusiast
November 17th, 2012, 05:24 PM
Sport killing is terrible, but food is fine. Also, hunting with arrows I think is pretty bad, more painful for the game.
OrKing
November 17th, 2012, 05:31 PM
If it's for survival I'm cool with it, things like food or someones only source of income in a certain area seem pretty understandable to me, but when it's for fun or sport I don't much like it, especially if the hunter doesn't know his limits or hunts consistently in one area.
Human
November 17th, 2012, 05:37 PM
It's only good when small communities do it, for food. For example Inuits hunting whales is okay but commercial Japanese whalers aren't good.
Manjusri
November 17th, 2012, 06:05 PM
Hunting is fine, so long as it has a meaningful purpose with a substantial amount of the species available for excess killing.
As long as the animals are killed humanely and people don't hunt too many in a certain area, it's fine.
An animal being killed 'humanely' is a personal opinion, and a moral standpoint. Regardless of how the animal dies, hunting in a whole is fine so long as the above standards that i've posted are met. When an animal is found alive in a noose more often than not the animal is bludgeoned / strangled until it's dead. That's not considered necessarily 'humane' now is it?
Gigablue
November 17th, 2012, 06:47 PM
An animal being killed 'humanely' is a personal opinion, and a moral standpoint. Regardless of how the animal dies, hunting in a whole is fine so long as the above standards that i've posted are met. When an animal is found alive in a noose more often than not the animal is bludgeoned / strangled until it's dead. That's not considered necessarily 'humane' now is it?
The animal needing to be killed humanely is simply my personal opinion. Animals can feel pain and have some conscienceness, and thus should have some basic rights.
Human
November 17th, 2012, 07:16 PM
The animal needing to be killed humanely is simply my personal opinion. Animals can feel pain and have some conscienceness, and thus should have some basic rights.
does it really matter when it's going to die anyway? as long as you aren't torturing it, it should be fine
Professional Russian
November 17th, 2012, 07:38 PM
This actually came up in chat today ad thats why i made this thread. Legion said that i was barbaric or something like that becasue i hunt for my food
Jess
November 17th, 2012, 07:40 PM
This actually came up in chat today ad thats why i made this thread. Legion said that i was barbaric or something like that becasue i hunt for my food
I disagree. It's not barbaric if you're doing it for food.
I'm okay with it, as long as it's for food and you don't kill off all the animals (duh).
Professional Russian
November 17th, 2012, 07:42 PM
I disagree. It's not barbaric if you're doing it for food.
I'm okay with it, as long as it's for food and you don't kill off all the animals (duh).
well here the game commission sets limits on how many of what you can get
Gigablue
November 17th, 2012, 07:43 PM
does it really matter when it's going to die anyway? as long as you aren't torturing it, it should be fine
According to your logic, if it's going to die, it shouldn't matter if you torture it or not. I think that you should try to minimize its suffering, since it feels pain. It just seems like the better thing to do.
TheWaterPrince
November 17th, 2012, 08:35 PM
Coming from a county where there are ALOT of rednecks (no offense to rednecks) I've been around hunting my whole life. I don't do it much but I don't see anything wrong with it. The animals should be used for food I agree but hunting for sport is alright as long as you actually do something with the animal besides let it sit there and rot (which most people around here eat whatever they kill). But I also see hunting as somewhat a form of population control because at least where I live if people didn't hunt you would see an animal dead on the side of the road every 15 feet. Sorry for the long post but I couldn't explain it any shorter
Cicero
November 18th, 2012, 04:06 AM
According to your logic, if it's going to die, it shouldn't matter if you torture it or not. I think that you should try to minimize its suffering, since it feels pain. It just seems like the better thing to do.
He just said in that post "as long as your not torturing it". So it sounds like his logic is "hunting isn't bad, especially if that animal is going to die. But don't torture the animal".
To OP:
I believe hunting is not bad at all. I wouldn't want people to hunt just for the fun of hunting. But I would want people to hunt for the food also.
Sydels
November 18th, 2012, 11:46 AM
the only time that i believe that it becomes a bad thing is when you get people who hunt just for the kill. they are the people that will kill something and just leave it laying, poach and kill illegally, and harm animal populations. but if it is just a person who likes the excitement of the hunt and the kill, and will take their meat home and eat it and use all they can from the animal, i don't think there is anything wrong with it.
Sir Suomi
November 18th, 2012, 09:48 PM
This is from a big time hunter, who this weekend got a buck that possibly might go in a lower scoring record book. I say as long as your are not being inhumane with killing your deer, it's fine. Also, as long as you have your permit and is not poaching, I see no problem. Also, with everyone saying that hunting for "fun" is bad, you are mistaken. It's perfectly fine to enjoy killing your deer, turkey, pheasant, whatever it may be. As long as you are responsible and recover your animal, it's alright to have a fun time hunting. For me, the sensation right before I release an arrow into my deer is an amazing feeling. So yes, you can hunt technically for "fun".
West Coast Sheriff
November 18th, 2012, 09:52 PM
Well being an outdoorsman and all myself, I believe it isn't bad. I wouldnt say it's good but it's not bad. In some cases as far as when overpopulation begins to occur, then I believe it can be good. When the use of hunting is just kill, I do not agree with it. However, if the parts of the animal are used, I believe it's fine. :D
saul1026
November 19th, 2012, 12:52 AM
totally good just went hunting in utah in october
Castle of Glass
November 19th, 2012, 02:24 AM
i do hunt a bit and my bio teacher also hunts, so we were talking about it. even if it is for sport, hunting brings people closer to nature, as long as they stalk the prey. but then comes the difference between hunting for sport and survival. hunting for sport CAN be ok, only if the animal is used and not left to rot. by used i mean, either a dog or what ever eats it or it is sold to a restaurant or another person.
Korashk
November 19th, 2012, 02:10 PM
Hunting for sport isn't a bad thing. One of the main reasons that hunting is legal at all is because it helps control the populations of animals that would otherwise overrun the environment and destroy it. An example of this happening (though it's not exactly a parallel) is cane toads in Australia.
LouBerry
November 19th, 2012, 02:15 PM
Hunting is, yes crude, but necessary. If it were not for hunting, species would over populate, kill out all of organisms that they feed on, which would mean the species it's self would die out, which would also cause I decline or drop off of all species that consumes the organism in question and so on.
UnknownError
November 19th, 2012, 05:50 PM
(Talking about first world countries here btw)
I don't see why you would need to. That's why we have meat sold to us in which (we like to think) the animal has been killed humanely in a proper setting. Why would you need to go out and kill MORE animals when you could pop over to the shops and buy some.
As for doing it for sport, that's just horrible. Not going to even bother going into it.
Sir Suomi
November 19th, 2012, 05:55 PM
(Talking about first world countries here btw)
I don't see why you would need to. That's why we have meat sold to us in which (we like to think) the animal has been killed humanely in a proper setting. Why would you need to go out and kill MORE animals when you could pop over to the shops and buy some.
As for doing it for sport, that's just horrible. Not going to even bother going into it.
Because getting a deer is a very good thing, even in a first world country, such as the U.S. I love deer meat, and although beef is much better here in Nebraska than it probably is in other states, beef gets boring after awhile. And also, hunting teaches patience, commitment, and makes an person become more aware of his/her surroundings.
UnknownError
November 19th, 2012, 06:00 PM
And also, hunting teaches patience, commitment, and makes an person become more aware of his/her surroundings.
So do many sports and activities. And I'm sure you can buy deer meat.
Sir Suomi
November 19th, 2012, 06:11 PM
So do many sports and activities. And I'm sure you can buy deer meat.
Yes, but normally it's terrible. Last year, went through Chicago on my way to Maine. Went to a sort-of-fancy restaurant, and I ordered a deer steak. I got it, and it tasted horrible, had no game taste to it. Deer meat is much better when it's a true wild deer, corn-fed, and wild. So yes, technically, you could get deer meat in certain areas, but chances are it's gonna be a farm-raised deer, and taste horrible.
Also, on a side note, hunting also helps manage animal population. Get too many deer around, farmers start having damaged crops, people start hitting deer with cars more often, and other animals suffer from resources being consumed by deer. As long as you keep a limit to the amount of deer being able to be killed, hunting can be good. Personally, I get an average of 4 deer per year, and more than often they are does(females), because there is way too many deer on the farmer's land I hunt on. So I help him out by eliminating the excess deer(and also help by giving him portion's of the deer, also helping him out on his farm when he needs me), and he helps me out by giving me a chance to get out of the boring day-by-day life of the city.
PinkFloyd
November 19th, 2012, 06:14 PM
Im going with good and bad. You have the hunters that will shoot any animal they see with no thoughts first. These hunters rarely even eat their dead game because they overkilled. You also have the hunters that are out to enjoy the nature but also killing some animals that would later be put to good use.
Professional Russian
November 19th, 2012, 07:04 PM
So do many sports and activities. And I'm sure you can buy deer meat.
you can but its tamed and tastes like shit...ive tried it
Sph2015
November 19th, 2012, 07:07 PM
With all of the current laws and regulations, I see no problem.
Penteract
November 19th, 2012, 07:12 PM
It's fine in my opinion, just don't go around killing the one species everywhere you see it to the point where you like turn the species into an extinct species (extreme exaggeration), or on the same page; not killing borderline extinct species. As well as try the most you can to make it not suffer, even if they are 'animals' in the wild term; because scientifically speaking, we're animals as well, they do have brains (if you're hunting them then they do?) and thus just have to feel pain. If you're going to torture an animal, think about torturing a human. If you can't do the latter, don't do the other. It's the same exact crap with the only exception that the 'animal' won't speak to you.
Boss...
November 22nd, 2012, 02:37 PM
Hunting is good in some was and bad in others. It is obviously good for food, and learning to track. It also allows you to connect with your primative instinsts.
On the other hand it can be extremely bad. Like for killing just cause you can, using feeders (ambushing), over killing, and sitting in a deer stand. Its basically like letting bambi eat grain from your hand and putting a gun to his head. Its not realy hunting at this point, its you just making yourself feel like a badass.
In more was than one its bad, but it will always have a necessity in the world. As long as you don't get stupid with it, its ok. But I will never as long as there is food on the shelves at the store.
Human
November 22nd, 2012, 03:06 PM
people have to remember humans are animals too, and animals like to hunt (if they eat meat). it's in our nature. humans might of been lucky to of evolved a large brain to invent microwaves and agriculture but if we didn't, we'd still be hunting deer and boars :P
Cara
November 23rd, 2012, 07:03 PM
i love hunting. me and my boyfriend hunt all the time in season. i think its fine because i look at it as you gotta get food somehow. i shot an 8 point and a 3 point this year while my boyfriend only got a 6 pointer.
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