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xXJust Jump ItXx
November 13th, 2012, 04:55 PM
I never smoked it, never will. But for those who have facts, please explain how it is bad for you! I got tons of people say its 100% okay, no bad things in or from it. Nothing bad can happen... Then they get pissed at me for not supporting it! I have a right to talk here, cause Im on medication means crap. I need them to actually function, weed, you seriously dont.

PinkFloyd
November 13th, 2012, 05:35 PM
Its definately not as bad for you as alcohol is but the us just doesnt want to make a substance legal. As for your question... Marijuana is usualy smoked into the lungs. When anything other than oxygen is inhaled into the lungs it isnt good for your lungs.

Green Arrow
November 13th, 2012, 05:41 PM
It's not 100% okay but it isn't as bad as alcohol and tabbacco. I don't have much knowledge on the subject though.

Daracon
November 13th, 2012, 06:34 PM
Here ya go: http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana

xXJust Jump ItXx
November 13th, 2012, 08:01 PM
Here ya go: http://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/drugfacts/marijuana

That works haha, its a gov. site. But yeah alcohol and cigarettes... Can be alot worse.

Inventor2
November 13th, 2012, 08:25 PM
Cannabis has very MILD side effect. Such as consuming under the age of 18 could result in short term memory loss. But Cannabis also has some very good side effects such as it is a pain reliever. Most people mistake Cannabis, you do not have to smoke it. You can cook it into food, liquid gels, mouth sprays and other methods. So lung damage dosnt result in all uses. So Canabis usage is not 100% safe, but not 100% bad either. Alcohol and Tobacco usage is a lot worse then Cannabis BTW

Hungman
November 14th, 2012, 12:51 AM
this is a huge question, but in short, it isnt harmful for you unless you are genetically predisposed with a mental disorder. Keep in mind any smoke isnt good for you, however smoking cannabis has little to no side effects, some studies suggest it can decrease lung tumour growth, and has been effective in fighting cancerous cells. It is illegal for many reasons which are too complex to get into, the fact it remains illegal is because if the government suddenly turned around and said "look, we lied, its not that bad, here ya go" it would create serious distrust between the people and the authority which is supposed to protect them.

West Coast Sheriff
November 14th, 2012, 01:12 AM
Well it can fuck up your lungs, give you short term memory loss, and can be addictive. ( but rarely) it is not entirely bad (not as bad as tabacco, alchohol, or coke) but still has a few negative effects to it. :D

Abyssal Echo
November 14th, 2012, 02:23 AM
It's not 100% okay but it isn't as bad as alcohol and tabbacco. I don't have much knowledge on the subject though.

comming from a family full of smokers and Alcoholics I agree its not as bad as Alcohol or Tabacco. like a drink or glass of wine with dinner if smoked in moderation I don't see a problem with it.

Jimmy Page
November 14th, 2012, 02:37 AM
Well from experience it can worsen depression,and if you're depressed enough it may cause hallucinations and in some rare cases it can cause psychosis
PersonallyI don't see the point of doing it anymore

Hungman
November 14th, 2012, 03:12 AM
-----------not promoting drug use i am just informing ------------

Well it can fuck up your lungs, give you short term memory loss, and can be addictive. ( but rarely) it is not entirely bad (not as bad as tabacco, alchohol, or coke) but still has a few negative effects to it. :D

smoking anything can be dangerous, however smoking cannabis has been proven to have no effect on lung capacity (ask for link). It also does not give you short term memory loss, but when high it may be difficult to remember things you did 5-20 minutes ago (an effect that is temporary and disappears once the high has worn off). It also isnt physicaly addictive, it can be psychologically addictive but then again so can anything (texting, facebook, junk food etc..)
Well from experience it can worsen depression,and if you're depressed enough it may cause hallucinations and in some rare cases it can cause psychosis
PersonallyI don't see the point of doing it anymore

Many people use cannabis to help with their depression. Psychosis and hallucinations are symptoms of schizophrenia, a mental disorder that CAN be exasperated by cannabis use - anyone with or at risk of a mental illness shouldnt be taken any drugs anyway.

RaXoR
November 14th, 2012, 04:17 AM
Cannabis can be consumed in more methods than just smoking. You can use a vaporizer as an alternative if you want the same speedy reaction as you would through smoking it. Marijuana will cause short term memory loss; however, that does go away once you quit it for a week up to 3 weeks. If you can control your life and get yourself together and not become dependent on Cannabis you can be successful in life and still ingest it. It is not addicting due to the fact that it does not posses any chemicals that induce the need to consume it like other drugs do (that's what addiction means basically). Dependence doesn't mean addiction, it just means that you're used to it and you like it a lot. Most of these points were done from personal experience and from the point of view of a cannabis veteran whom is related to me.

Hungman
November 14th, 2012, 07:04 AM
yes to be physically addicted your body must go through withdrawal symptoms when deprived of the drug, none of which are present upon discontinuation of cannabis

Gigablue
November 15th, 2012, 07:26 AM
It's not as bad as nicotine or alchool, but not without risks. The smoke contains more toxic chemicals than cigarette smoke, though people smoke it far less frequently than they do cigarettes, and thus get fewer toxic chemicals.

Apollo.
November 15th, 2012, 01:31 PM
Looking by all health risks, It's an illegal drug, Therefore if you get caught with it it's going to fuck your life up, not being able to visit certain places having a criminal record stuff like that. I know all this usually doesn't happen the first time you get caught with it but if you become a regular user chances are your going to get in trouble with the law and that's going to affect a lot.

Apart from that you have the usual help problems of inhaling smoke which is never good also don't quote me on it but I'm pretty sure it's proven to be bad for young people's minds

Inventor2
November 16th, 2012, 12:00 AM
It's not as bad as nicotine or alchool, but not without risks. The smoke contains more toxic chemicals than cigarette smoke, though people smoke it far less frequently than they do cigarettes, and thus get fewer toxic chemicals.

Nicotine isnt bad for you, but tobacco smoke in general is because of all the additatives

Gigablue
November 16th, 2012, 07:45 PM
Nicotine isnt bad for you, but tobacco smoke in general is because of all the additatives

Actually, nicotine is highly toxic. Though you can't really overdoes on cigarettes, nicotine is still bad for you.

nocontrol
November 17th, 2012, 12:43 AM
I would suggest you watch the movie "The Union", it clears up with a lot of misconceptions...


Actually, nicotine is highly toxic. Though you can't really overdoes on cigarettes, nicotine is still bad for you.

That's not true, nicotine is addicting, but it's the tobbaco that is bad for you.

Hungman
November 17th, 2012, 01:01 AM
I would suggest you watch the movie "The Union", it clears up with a lot of misconceptions...




That's not true, nicotine is addicting, but it's the tobbaco that is bad for you.

The Union is a great movie, very informative and if more people saw it we wouldnt have ignorant people quoting the governments propaganda that is so deeply ingrained in peoples minds

Inventor2
November 17th, 2012, 10:29 AM
Actually, nicotine is highly toxic. Though you can't really overdoes on cigarettes, nicotine is still bad for you.

Nicotine is about as dangerous as caffine. You can get from nicotine poisening but anything is bad for you in large amounts. I would be so worried about nicotine if i were you.

average teen
November 17th, 2012, 01:22 PM
NOT PROMOTING MARIJUANA.. but no its not bad for you.

revengekills
November 22nd, 2012, 12:01 AM
Its pretty good. Just dont take too big of a hit too soon or youll get sick. Other than that.... 1) IT IS NOT HABIT FORMING. I don't care what anyone says. 2) There are two kinds, either a mind high or a body high. I personally like a body high cause everything is just relaxed. Mind high is when your mind runs freely and your thoughts just kinda bounce around a lot. 3) Enjoy it bro, as long as you dont get caught NOTHING BAD WILL HAPPEN. If your smart it will be a good relaxant for a hard school day.

Smoke Weed Everyday Bro

Wolf44
November 22nd, 2012, 12:41 AM
I say it's 100% ok I don't smoke it but my dad did before his current job and my mom did in highschool and they are just fine it's not as bad as smoking or drinking and my dad said the only reason y it's illegal is because it was driving the rope industry out of business(I think that's what my dad told me but its late where I am and I'm dead shit tired so I might be wrong if so correct me)

also you don't get addicted to it

paterico
December 3rd, 2012, 03:45 AM
A 20 year study recently ended, it looked at the effects of smoking marijuana on intelligence. the persistant smokers tended to have a lower IQ than those who didnt smoke it. I'll try to find a link to it.

EDIT:

here's the link. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19372456)

ECSTASY
December 3rd, 2012, 09:34 AM
i've never smoked it but i think it causes lung cancer ... just like ciggies...
anyways i'd rather not to smoke it :P

Hungman
December 4th, 2012, 04:15 AM
i've never smoked it but i think it causes lung cancer ... just like ciggies...
anyways i'd rather not to smoke it :P

smoking cannabis does not cause lung cancer, it does not decrease lung capacity at all in fact. Although smoking anything isnt good for you, the properties of cannabis smoke are different then that of tobacco and do not cause cancer.

revengekills
December 15th, 2012, 09:21 PM
Main Facts for easy reading:

1. NO ONE has ever died or will ever die from weed or too much weed
2. Weed adapts to the way your mind acts. It nutrilizes pain which is why it can be used for medical reasons
3. Belive it or not: You will never become addicted to it and it is NOT a gateway drug nothing about it makes you walk out in the morning wanting to try meth. It's safe

I love it, you would too if you tried it :)

I AM NOT TRYING TO GET YOU TO SMOKE WEED AND I AM NOT PROMOTING IT!!

shadymc
December 16th, 2012, 01:39 AM
Marijuana is amazing. There are many differnt types of it, and it is safer than any drug i can think of including alcohol. ADD/ADHD meds are worse than weed, since most of them are amphetamines, which are pretty addictive. Weed isn't addictive. and new evidence shows it can cure cancer. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9cUC8tjoB_0
Marijuana is bad for you, only if it is smoked. You can also cook with it, or use a vaporizer, which just heats the THC in it, making a steam instead of smoke, so you dont have to inhale burning plant matter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LsVu8RttL4Q

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqcWo3qNLZE

jayboy671
December 16th, 2012, 03:30 AM
it is not bad its addictive and the US cant tax a plant thats why they made it illegal they all haterz

Korab
December 16th, 2012, 03:52 AM
Its bad for your brain not for your bodyy!

Chromatic
December 16th, 2012, 04:29 AM
People argue it's bad because it makes some people want to be unproductive. But so do video games.

Steve Jobs
December 16th, 2012, 05:04 AM
I think science is going to be a forever-long battle and things will always change. It is kind of a gateway drug however, in the sense that for the majority of people who try it, it does make them want more, and in many cases, is the breakthrough which causes people to become much more adventurous and open to other things, including much more potent substances..

Hungman
December 22nd, 2012, 08:50 PM
I think science is going to be a forever-long battle and things will always change. It is kind of a gateway drug however, in the sense that for the majority of people who try it, it does make them want more, and in many cases, is the breakthrough which causes people to become much more adventurous and open to other things, including much more potent substances..

Cannabis by itself is in no way a gate way drug. Prohibition is the only thing can could make on say cannabis is a gateway drug, as because it is part of the black market, anyone buying cannabis can also be exposed to harder substances as there is no regulation and their dealer could be selling other shit besides weed.
Also, because of all the propaganda the government has put out there (it kills you, gives you cancer etc.. etc..) if someone tries marijuana and sees it isnt all that the government has made it out to be, they could possibly think that they are lying about other drugs as well.

Also, a lot of people will also try other drugs, but they just happen to experiment with cannabis first. I drank coffee before i drank alcohol, does that make caffeine a gateway drug? No, it doesnt, same logic. There is nothing IN marijuana that makes you want to try other substances, and it certainly doesnt make me want to go out and shoot up some ice.

qwertygirl
December 27th, 2012, 12:20 PM
Here's the thing.
Weed is okay, maybe even helpful in some medical situations.
But it's a GATEWAY DRUG, meaning you could find yourself exploring other drugs because you were exposed to marijuana.
I'm not saying that you will in fact try other drugs, but can you imagine doing crack tomorrow? What about after you've smoked pot a few times. It will probably seem a lot more realistic to you by then.
So smoke it if you want, but please be careful, and don't surround yourself with people who are going to make you want to try other drugs.
:(

Hungman
December 27th, 2012, 07:56 PM
Here's the thing.
Weed is okay, maybe even helpful in some medical situations.
But it's a GATEWAY DRUG, meaning you could find yourself exploring other drugs because you were exposed to marijuana.
I'm not saying that you will in fact try other drugs, but can you imagine doing crack tomorrow? What about after you've smoked pot a few times. It will probably seem a lot more realistic to you by then.
So smoke it if you want, but please be careful, and don't surround yourself with people who are going to make you want to try other drugs.
:(

try reading the thread before you post. or more the post ABOVE yours.

Here you go -
Cannabis by itself is in no way a gate way drug. Prohibition is the only thing can could make on say cannabis is a gateway drug, as because it is part of the black market, anyone buying cannabis can also be exposed to harder substances as there is no regulation and their dealer could be selling other shit besides weed.
Also, because of all the propaganda the government has put out there (it kills you, gives you cancer etc.. etc..) if someone tries marijuana and sees it isnt all that the government has made it out to be, they could possibly think that they are lying about other drugs as well.

Also, a lot of people will also try other drugs, but they just happen to experiment with cannabis first. I drank coffee before i drank alcohol, does that make caffeine a gateway drug? No, it doesnt, same logic. There is nothing IN marijuana that makes you want to try other substances, and it certainly doesnt make me want to go out and shoot up some ice.

gentletrees
December 28th, 2012, 12:23 AM
Marijuana has proven medical use. I'm all for you choosing not to smoke marijuana as a result of your own research but to simply take an uneducated elitist standpoint. State how it's bad for your lungs when you smoke it too much, and it leaves holes in your memory where you're not quite sure what's happened, and you can have bad trips that result in physical harm to yourself or others, and that an awful amount of teenagers smoke marijuana instead of studying. But do not take such a simple standpoint as falsely stating that it has no medical value and do your research.

Hungman
December 28th, 2012, 08:50 AM
Marijuana has proven medical use. I'm all for you choosing not to smoke marijuana as a result of your own research but to simply take an uneducated elitist standpoint. State how it's bad for your lungs when you smoke it too much, and it leaves holes in your memory where you're not quite sure what's happened, and you can have bad trips that result in physical harm to yourself or others, and that an awful amount of teenagers smoke marijuana instead of studying. But do not take such a simple standpoint as falsely stating that it has no medical value and do your research.

bold parts i like, cant tell if the rest is a sarcastic imitation of what some people say, but either way, most of that is false. No one has ever gotten lung cancer or respiratory illness solely from cannabis smoke along. Several studies suggest it can improve lung capacity and/or help cure cancer. Holes in your memory? you may be high and not notice little things but important things you can remember, and if your high and need to remember something, you will. You cant have a "bad trip" from weed, an anxiety attack maybe, but that is something not only attributed to cannabis and usually stems from a personality/anxiety related issue already present. If you cant prioritise your life (smoking weed and not studying) then you shouldnt be smoking weed. Im not saying everyone should smoke, what i am saying is that if someone can control their usage and is responsible, the 'side effects' are negligible.

qwertygirl
December 28th, 2012, 09:35 PM
try reading the thread before you post. or more the post ABOVE yours.

Here you go -
Cannabis by itself is in no way a gate way drug. Prohibition is the only thing can could make on say cannabis is a gateway drug, as because it is part of the black market, anyone buying cannabis can also be exposed to harder substances as there is no regulation and their dealer could be selling other shit besides weed.
Also, because of all the propaganda the government has put out there (it kills you, gives you cancer etc.. etc..) if someone tries marijuana and sees it isnt all that the government has made it out to be, they could possibly think that they are lying about other drugs as well.

Also, a lot of people will also try other drugs, but they just happen to experiment with cannabis first. I drank coffee before i drank alcohol, does that make caffeine a gateway drug? No, it doesnt, same logic. There is nothing IN marijuana that makes you want to try other substances, and it certainly doesnt make me want to go out and shoot up some ice.

lol you're so passionate about this. But I'm just saying that it changes your MINDSET, not you. And the coffee to alcohol analogy was awful, in no way does drinking coffee have any effect on what i THINK about alcohol. Coffee doesn't MAKE me want to try it, but it surely doesn't make me think differently about WHAT i think about alcohol.

I feel awkward being so defensive about my point, but idk, i just think that weed makes you not as against against using other drugs, that's all

and the government hasn't really had so much of an influence on me about that, I just don't like weed, bro. And I think it may be fun, but i wanted that other dude to know why i think he shouldn't use it, or at least in strict moderation.

Hungman
December 28th, 2012, 10:20 PM
lol you're so passionate about this. But I'm just saying that it changes your MINDSET, not you. And the coffee to alcohol analogy was awful, in no way does drinking coffee have any effect on what i THINK about alcohol. Coffee doesn't MAKE me want to try it, but it surely doesn't make me think differently about WHAT i think about alcohol.

I feel awkward being so defensive about my point, but idk, i just think that weed makes you not as against against using other drugs, that's all

and the government hasn't really had so much of an influence on me about that, I just don't like weed, bro. And I think it may be fun, but i wanted that other dude to know why i think he shouldn't use it, or at least in strict moderation.

i am very passionate about it because i think lying and practically brain washing your entire population of a country is ethically wrong, which is effectively what they have done/doing. They have put out so much bullshit propaganda about marijuana and 60-80 percent of people believe it without even doing their own research (which will reveal it isnt NEARLY as bad as tobacco or alcohol, which are both legal).

The coffee/alcohol analogy is supposed to be awful, its an ironic representation of the weed/gateway theory, because that is stupid and makes no sense as well. When people smoke weed they dont suddenly think oh yeah shooting up H or snorting some coke is good.

I can see why some people would say cannabis is a gateway drug but that has nothing to do with the drug itself and is completely the governments 'fault'. If you find out they lied about this "horrible drug" that kills brain cells and gives you cancer (sarcasm, it doesnt) then some people may start to think oh well they must be lying about other drugs as well (people are stupid and as proven believe anything they hear without independent research).

Im not trying to get everyone to start smoking pot, i just want everyone to see the facts, know that it isnt going to ruin or control your life stop having the wool pulled over their eyes and maybe make an informed decision whether or not to use cannabis. If people choose not to smoke for the right reasons, good on them. But if its because of all that crap they heard in PDHPE then i feel its my responsibility to educate them properly or atleast encourage them to seek out non bias, credible information.

Everything in moderation is okay, depending on what it is dictates frequency and amount. The more 'hard' a drug is, the less people that can handle and moderate their usage there are. I know people who have used meth recreationally (once or twice a year for a couple of years), sounds stupid right? But they managed to control their usage and only do it on very special occasions, something the majority of people cant and shouldnt do as they may (like 90 percent of methamphetamine users) fall into a downward spiral and fuck up their lives.
Point is, everything can be used in moderation, by who? thats a whole different matter.

AuthorX303720
December 28th, 2012, 10:39 PM
(I DO NOT SUPPORT DRUGS OR ANY KIND, THE REASON WHY I KNOW THESE FACTS IS BECAUSE I KNOW FIELD AGENTS IN MULTIPLE FEDERAL OFFICES SUCH AS THE FBI AND DEA. I ALSO KNOW THIS BECAUSE I WANTED TO THE PERSPECTIVE OF AMENDMENT 64 RECENTLY VOTED UPON BY THE PEOPLE OF COLORADO
Well some forms of Cannabis can actually make you violent if not grown properly or it is a type that makes you crazy high. I see how people think that cannabis is good, but only for some people for instance: cancer patients facing chemotherapy. The cannabis is good because the chemo that they use makes you sick (vominting :P ) , you cannot go to sleep, and you can are aching. With the cannbis though they get something called the "munchies" (A sideffect that makes them more hungy in order to eat and retain normal weight), makes them sleepy (when baked at certain tempretures in baked goods it creates a "super high") and it prevents aches (powerful high apparently). But it can be a bad thing. For instance a man on weed in 2011 broke into a church where the priest was giving a sermon. The man ran up to the to the priest in the middle of the sermon and stabbed him 36 times in the torso and in the legs. The sermon survived and the man is serving a prison sentence. This man was at the time possessing marijuana and wreaked of weed. Thus weed can be a good thing for people with certain illnesses but it isn't good for people for normal people to smoke certain kinds

sieg
December 29th, 2012, 02:28 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCDnR6Px-co

this should answer every question you have pertaining to narcotics.

LiamShelley96
December 29th, 2012, 03:52 AM
Cannabis, has alot of health benefits. but then again if you are smoking it it could decrease your lung capacity but still not by much as most people don't smoke alot of it.. but really it isnt that bad for you if it was why are we legalizing it for medicinal purposes. the only was really it could be harmful if when you grow it spraying chemicals on it... that is one of the reasons tobacco is so bad because of the chemicals they use.. tobacco would still be bad for you but not as bad

Hungman
December 29th, 2012, 05:46 AM
(I DO NOT SUPPORT DRUGS OR ANY KIND, THE REASON WHY I KNOW THESE FACTS IS BECAUSE I KNOW FIELD AGENTS IN MULTIPLE FEDERAL OFFICES SUCH AS THE FBI AND DEA. I ALSO KNOW THIS BECAUSE I WANTED TO THE PERSPECTIVE OF AMENDMENT 64 RECENTLY VOTED UPON BY THE PEOPLE OF COLORADO
Well some forms of Cannabis can actually make you violent if not grown properly or it is a type that makes you crazy high. I see how people think that cannabis is good, but only for some people for instance: cancer patients facing chemotherapy. The cannabis is good because the chemo that they use makes you sick (vominting :P ) , you cannot go to sleep, and you can are aching. With the cannbis though they get something called the "munchies" (A sideffect that makes them more hungy in order to eat and retain normal weight), makes them sleepy (when baked at certain tempretures in baked goods it creates a "super high") and it prevents aches (powerful high apparently). But it can be a bad thing. For instance a man on weed in 2011 broke into a church where the priest was giving a sermon. The man ran up to the to the priest in the middle of the sermon and stabbed him 36 times in the torso and in the legs. The sermon survived and the man is serving a prison sentence. This man was at the time possessing marijuana and wreaked of weed. Thus weed can be a good thing for people with certain illnesses but it isn't good for people for normal people to smoke certain kinds

there is no weed that makes you crazy high and violent, NO weed does that AT ALL no matter HOW its grown. You need to get your facts straight.
That guy in 2011 may have been high, but there is no way he was just stoned, im sure there would have been traces of cocaine, heroin and/or speed in his system. No one gets stoned and goes and stabs someone, if you had some subjective experience of your own, instead of crazy stories and propaganda you would know that.
P.S. you sound retarded.

Person_Of_Interest
January 4th, 2013, 06:27 PM
Weed has more toxic chemicals than tobacco, but they are not usually absorbed to the lethal levels in a joint because they are not very concentrated in marijuana. Another factor that plays a role in not giving you as many toxins is the frequency of use. Most users can't afford lots of weed (more than one ounce) so they smoke it in small amounts so they don't use up their stash, and they don't use as much (like every other week or something). I don't use, just talking based on information from research.

Danny_boi 16
January 4th, 2013, 06:47 PM
Marijuana is completely okay for you; however, be mindful of where you get ti because it could be lased with other drugs.

Zenos
January 4th, 2013, 08:14 PM
Marijuana is completely okay for you; however, be mindful of where you get ti because it could be lased with other drugs.

Yeh right it's ok for you.

Studies in male rodents have shown significant decreases
in both testosterone and gonadotropins7 with
acute administration of Δ9-THC due to inhibition of the
GnRH pulse generator8 in the hypothalamus. Similar
effects have been demonstrated in primates. In the rhesus
monkey, THC reduced testosterone levels by 65%,
which lasted 1 hour.

Marijuana and Δ9-THC can have direct effects on the
testes. Reductions in testicular size have been observed
in rodents20 and dogs21 with administration of cannabis
extract. Degeneration of the seminiferous tubules may
provide an explanation for this observation21 and is
dose dependent, with lower doses showing no appreciable
effect.22 Abnormal sperm morphology has been
characterized in rodents exposed to marijuana smoke23
or Δ9-THC24 for a 5-day period.


Ok you guys(not the girls) may say oh well it lowers your testosterone levels for one hour no big deal,but the thing is it's lowered by 65%,and think of this males also produce in lower levels the female hormone estrogen,and as yuo age tewst goes down and estrogen goes up,and when you smoke weed and it's down for 1 hour by 65%,guess whats going to be flowing in youre system at a higher rate then for that hour yup ESTROGEN!


Which explains why aside from the munchies my freinds that use weed have weight problems and have manboobs,they are keeping their testosterone levels surpressed



http://www.peaktestosterone.com/testosterone_marijuana.aspx

http://www.ukcia.org/research/EndocrineEffects.pdf

Hungman
January 4th, 2013, 11:11 PM
Weed has more toxic chemicals than tobacco, but they are not usually absorbed to the lethal levels in a joint because they are not very concentrated in marijuana. Another factor that plays a role in not giving you as many toxins is the frequency of use. Most users can't afford lots of weed (more than one ounce) so they smoke it in small amounts so they don't use up their stash, and they don't use as much (like every other week or something). I don't use, just talking based on information from research.

cannabis does not contain more toxic chemicals then tobacco, that is another propaganda myth from your trustworthy government. That isnt research, that is a flat out lie. That is the reason in thousands of known years of cannabis use (and before then) there hasnt been a single death attributed to cannabis use alone yet over 400 000 people die per year from cigarettes in the US alone.

Marijuana is completely okay for you; however, be mindful of where you get ti because it could be lased with other drugs.

Laced weed makes absolutely no sense, dealers want to make money, giving their customers extra drugs for free is uneconomical and stupid for them. If someone is trying to sell you some for a ridiculous price, thats when it *could* be sketchy. Also if someone gives it to you for free, then theirs a small chance it could have been tampered with, but 99 percent of the time laced weed is bullshit, government scare tactic.

Yeh right it's ok for you.

Studies in male rodents have shown significant decreases
in both testosterone and gonadotropins7 with
acute administration of Δ9-THC due to inhibition of the
GnRH pulse generator8 in the hypothalamus. Similar
effects have been demonstrated in primates. In the rhesus
monkey, THC reduced testosterone levels by 65%,
which lasted 1 hour.

Marijuana and Δ9-THC can have direct effects on the
testes. Reductions in testicular size have been observed
in rodents20 and dogs21 with administration of cannabis
extract. Degeneration of the seminiferous tubules may
provide an explanation for this observation21 and is
dose dependent, with lower doses showing no appreciable
effect.22 Abnormal sperm morphology has been
characterized in rodents exposed to marijuana smoke23
or Δ9-THC24 for a 5-day period.


Ok you guys(not the girls) may say oh well it lowers your testosterone levels for one hour no big deal,but the thing is it's lowered by 65%,and think of this males also produce in lower levels the female hormone estrogen,and as yuo age tewst goes down and estrogen goes up,and when you smoke weed and it's down for 1 hour by 65%,guess whats going to be flowing in youre system at a higher rate then for that hour yup ESTROGEN!


Which explains why aside from the munchies my freinds that use weed have weight problems and have manboobs,they are keeping their testosterone levels surpressed



http://www.peaktestosterone.com/testosterone_marijuana.aspx

http://www.ukcia.org/research/EndocrineEffects.pdf

Eating certain foods can also peak estrogen levels in men, and so can a lot of other things, you can also do things to increase testosterone (working out, eating a higher fight diet, sleeping longer) if that is an issue from smoking weed. Also, im sure your friends with man boobs and weight problems dont eat properly or exercise, which would offer a better explanation as to why their BMI is above average, instead of "they smoke weed".

If smoking weed gets in the way of keeping a healthy, active lifestyle then you shouldnt be doing it, but thats subjective and depends on the person not objective and caused by the weed.

So much misinformation in this thread, if you read it, you may learn something.

Danny_boi 16
January 4th, 2013, 11:24 PM
Laced weed makes absolutely no sense, dealers want to make money, giving their customers extra drugs for free is uneconomical and stupid for them. If someone is trying to sell you some for a ridiculous price, thats when it *could* be sketchy. Also if someone gives it to you for free, then theirs a small chance it could have been tampered with, but 99 percent of the time laced weed is bullshit, government scare tactic.



Its not a government tactic. Its a friend experience. Weed is not addictive; however, if it laced with other drugs your buyers will come back again, and again, and again. It makes good financial sense.

Hungman
January 4th, 2013, 11:34 PM
Its not a government tactic. Its a friend experience. Weed is not addictive; however, if it laced with other drugs your buyers will come back again, and again, and again. It makes good financial sense.

it is a government scare tactic, to scare kids into not buying weed as they think it will be laced with coke or pcp, and judging by the amount of people who believe it id say its working.

It makes no financial sense whatsoever as if someone figures it out (which isnt hard, noticeable traces of other drug on your weed, unpleasant/uncommon side effects) there goes your whole customer base. They will stop buying from you and they will tell people not to buy from you. Also, the money spent on other drugs (which are f**king expensive) is all the extra "profit" you made from, as you put it, recurring customers. In turn, your not making a profit, your breaking even. So not only are you NOT making money (probably losing it) you are putting in a tonne of extra effort with the risk that your whole clientele will find out and stop buying.

There is no sense in lacing weed and it would happen .0001 percent of the time.

Person_Of_Interest
January 5th, 2013, 10:05 AM
I just said what I saw----- I don't give the government shit when it comes to trusting those ignorant, money crazed dimwits who hink "Oh, were rich senators with too much influence on the country's budget for healthcare and substance regulations. Let's give some bullshit tax to the middle class so we can all get the new Iphone with the PAID version of angry birds! Oh, and while were at it, we might as well make the healthier version of tobacco illegal so we can lock up that annoying stoner from our dorms from our sixth term at harvard! I know man, he accidentally tipped my gold plated toothbrush into the sink and it was SOOO dented! Ughh we should also forclose his home."

thisisben
January 5th, 2013, 10:13 AM
It becomes addictive, changes your appearance makes you look alot older than you do , makes you thin and gaunt , feel like youre on a high all the time. There is alot of dangers that you will or should of got taught at school.

Hungman
January 5th, 2013, 08:53 PM
It becomes addictive, changes your appearance makes you look alot older than you do , makes you thin and gaunt , feel like youre on a high all the time. There is alot of dangers that you will or should of got taught at school.

cannabis isnt addictive, it can be habit forming, but so can texting or biting your nails.

It doesnt make you look older at all, i think your thinking of heroin and shard.

There are basically NO dangers that you dont learn in school because the people teaching you the so called 'side effects' are paid by the people who keep cannabis illegal. Read the thread, you may learn something.

crazydude12
January 5th, 2013, 09:57 PM
Weed has more toxic chemicals than tobacco

Nope.

WillGind
January 12th, 2013, 11:03 PM
Marijuana is definitely NOT %100 OK! It is one of the less dangerous ones out there, but it is certainly not without its adverse effects. Drugs affect different people differently, so how it affects one individual is not necessarily how it will affect you.

Some people can use marijuana regularly (weekly, monthly, ect) without feeling the urge to increase rate of use. However many people (such as myself) will feel the urge to use it more and more often. For those of us that do it often quickly becomes a problem. I went from using once a week with friends to using everyday then to using several times a day. At the time I didn't see it as a problem, most people won't.

Many will tell you that marijuana isn't physically addictive, which means it doesn't induce withdrawals if use is discontinued. However I did a little experiment on myself. Before ever using marijuana I didn't suffer from any sleep problems. I used 1-2 times a day over the course of a week then stopped. While I was using I was able to often fall asleep much faster then normal. The first day I didn't use after this period I was unable to fall asleep (all night long). I continued to not use for about another week. Then I resumed the same course of use next week. I went through another sleepless night the next time I quit. Then I resumed with heavier use over a longer period of time, and suffered from insomnia for an entire week after I quit. I can conclude from this that insomnia is a marijuana withdrawal symptom I suffer from. However like I said drugs affect different people differently.

My recommendation to those of you considering trying marijuana is just to not. You may get sucked into it like I did, or you may not. In my opinion the high isn't even that great, and it isn't worth the risks.

Hungman
January 12th, 2013, 11:13 PM
Marijuana is definitely NOT %100 OK! It is one of the less dangerous ones out there, but it is certainly not without its adverse effects. Drugs affect different people differently, so how it affects one individual is not necessarily how it will affect you.

Some people can use marijuana regularly (weekly, monthly, ect) without feeling the urge to increase rate of use. However many people (such as myself) will feel the urge to use it more and more often. For those of us that do it often quickly becomes a problem. I went from using once a week with friends to using everyday then to using several times a day. At the time I didn't see it as a problem, most people won't.

Many will tell you that marijuana isn't physically addictive, which means it doesn't induce withdrawals if use is discontinued. However I did a little experiment on myself. Before ever using marijuana I didn't suffer from any sleep problems. I used 1-2 times a day over the course of a week then stopped. While I was using I was able to often fall asleep much faster then normal. The first day I didn't use after this period I was unable to fall asleep (all night long). I continued to not use for about another week. Then I resumed the same course of use next week. I went through another sleepless night the next time I quit. Then I resumed with heavier use over a longer period of time, and suffered from insomnia for an entire week after I quit. I can conclude from this that insomnia is a marijuana withdrawal symptom I suffer from. However like I said drugs affect different people differently.

My recommendation to those of you considering trying marijuana is just to not. You may get sucked into it like I did, or you may not. In my opinion the high isn't even that great, and it isn't worth the risks.

yes everything effects everyone differently because everyone has a different perspective and DNA. I very much like your post.
Upon taking small breaks from smoking during exams and such, i notice a little trouble falling asleep (extra 10-20 minutes), but its not a lot to effect my sleeping pattern or bother me at all, and i fucking love my sleep.

Chromatic
January 13th, 2013, 02:38 AM
It becomes addictive

Oh boy
it can become mentally addictive, like anything. But it won't create major withdrawal symptoms like nicotine, cocaine and stuff.

changes your appearance, makes you look alot older than you do

You know what else makes you look older over time? Living.

makes you thin and gaunt

Pretty sure fat, tan people smoke weed all day ever day. It makes me a lot hungrier.

feel like youre on a high all the time.

Uhh, no. Eating and sleeping kills highs significantly, and there is a noticeable comedown after like 15 minutes from a hit.

There is alot of dangers that you will or should of got taught at school.

Maybe if you have no self control and decide to let it ruin your life? Twinkies and cars are much, much more dangerous to Americans. Weed is safer than caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, and most prescription drugs, and I would recommend it to someone before alcohol.

WillGind
January 13th, 2013, 03:34 AM
Oh boy
it can become mentally addictive, like anything. But it won't create major withdrawal symptoms like nicotine, cocaine and stuff.



You know what else makes you look older over time? Living.



Pretty sure fat, tan people smoke weed all day ever day. It makes me a lot hungrier.



Uhh, no. Eating and sleeping kills highs significantly, and there is a noticeable comedown after like 15 minutes from a hit.



Maybe if you have no self control and decide to let it ruin your life? Twinkies and cars are much, much more dangerous to Americans. Weed is safer than caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, and most prescription drugs, and I would recommend it to someone before alcohol.


My issues with sleep after discontinued use would be classified as a withdrawal symptom, and I am not the first to report experiencing this.

thisisben
January 13th, 2013, 07:28 AM
Oh boy
it can become mentally addictive, like anything. But it won't create major withdrawal symptoms like nicotine, cocaine and stuff.



You know what else makes you look older over time? Living.



Pretty sure fat, tan people smoke weed all day ever day. It makes me a lot hungrier.



Uhh, no. Eating and sleeping kills highs significantly, and there is a noticeable comedown after like 15 minutes from a hit.



Maybe if you have no self control and decide to let it ruin your life? Twinkies and cars are much, much more dangerous to Americans. Weed is safer than caffeine, alcohol, tobacco, and most prescription drugs, and I would recommend it to someone before alcohol.


With the age thing , yes of course age over time , it just speeds it up , makes you look older than you are.

WillGind
January 13th, 2013, 02:21 PM
With the age thing , yes of course age over time , it just speeds it up , makes you look older than you are.

I have yet to find any evidence scientific or otherwise that supports this claim. I'm afraid I think you may be misinformed.

thisisben
January 13th, 2013, 03:50 PM
I have yet to find any evidence scientific or otherwise that supports this claim. I'm afraid I think you may be misinformed.

lol fair enough i must have a bad teacher then :P

Hungman
January 13th, 2013, 10:14 PM
lol fair enough i must have a bad teacher then :P

actually a lot of the things they tell you in health class about weed arent even true.

Human
January 16th, 2013, 06:03 PM
SMOKING Marijuana is bad for you. Taking it more pure, for example eating it or vaporising it where you get it a lot purer, with almost no dangerous chemicals from smoke, is beneficial. It has been shown to fight cancer, lowers blood pressure. Marijuana smokers had a 62% less chance of developing head and neck cancers than non marijuana smokers.
I don't smoke at all by the way. Just saying.

VictoriaGotaSecret
January 18th, 2013, 09:58 PM
Cannabis has very MILD side effect. Such as consuming under the age of 18 could result in short term memory loss. But Cannabis also has some very good side effects such as it is a pain reliever. Most people mistake Cannabis, you do not have to smoke it. You can cook it into food, liquid gels, mouth sprays and other methods. So lung damage dosnt result in all uses. So Canabis usage is not 100% safe, but not 100% bad either. Alcohol and Tobacco usage is a lot worse then Cannabis BTW

Actually it improved my memory