"Uganda to officially pass ‘Kill The Gays’ bill"

[ReginaGeorge]

"Uganda will officially pass the ‘Kill The Gays’ bill at the end of this year despite international criticism.

Speaker Rebecca Kadaga said the anti-gay bill will become law by December since most Ugandans ‘are demanding it’.

Referring to the law as a ‘Christmas gift’ to the population, she spoke of ‘the serious threat’ posed by homosexuals.

The law will broaden the criminalization of same-sex relationships by dividing homosexuality into two categories; aggravated homosexuality and the offense of homosexuality.

‘Aggravated homosexuality’ is defined as gay acts committed by parents or authority figures, HIV-positive people, pedophiles and repeat offenders. If convicted, they will face the death penalty.

The ‘offense of homosexuality’ includes same-sex sexual acts or being in a gay relationship, and will be prosecuted by life imprisonment.

Originally put to government in 2009, the Anti-Homosexuality Bill had been temporarily shelved because of international criticism.

Several European countries have threatened to cut aid to Uganda if it passes, with the UK government warning Uganda it would face severe reductions in financial help.

US President Barack Obama has described it as ‘odious’, and Canadian politician John Baird has said it is ‘vile, abhorrent, and offends decency’.

Uganda lawmaker Atim Ogwal Cecilia Barbara has even suggested there should be a continent-wide ban on homosexuality, saying all African gay people should be jailed for life.

Gay rights activist David Kato was murdered in Uganda in January 2011 shortly after a local newspaper published images of him and other gay people under a headline urging readers to ‘hang them.’

Despite this, Uganda’s LGBT community held a weekend of gay pride events this summer.

According to a 2010 survey by The Pew Research Center, homosexuality is morally unacceptable to 89% of Ugandans."

(http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/uganda-officially-pass-%E2%80%98kill-gays%E2%80%99-bill121112)


This make me incredibly sad. I have no words to describe how I feel. :( I just hope the LGBT community over there can keep themselves safe.

[West Coast Sheriff]

That is just terrible. :( :mad:

[WaffleSingSong]

(http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/uganda-officially-pass-%E2%80%98kill-gays%E2%80%99-bill121112)


This make me incredibly sad. I have no words to describe how I feel. :( I just hope the LGBT community over there can keep themselves safe.

Well, what did you expect from such a backwards, authoritarian region in the world? It's extremely sad, but I really think that if a substantial population of a country dosent like something, they should not put up with it. However, hopefully the people of Uganda can think different in the future.

[Iron Man]

Who would have thought "Eat da poo poo" could influence policy.

[ReginaGeorge]

Well, what did you expect from such a backwards, authoritarian region in the world? It's extremely sad, but I really think that if a substantial population of a country dosent like something, they should not put up with it. However, hopefully the people of Uganda can think different in the future.

I understand what you're saying, but this isn't just about Uganda not wanting to do their homework or eat their veggies, they're taking away human rights, rights that these people have the right to have. It's not right.

(Emphasize on right, if you didn't see :P )

[Sugaree]

Who would have thought "Eat da poo poo" could influence policy.

At least 89% of the people in Uganda believe it. Can't change 'em. Third world country with a massive amount of problems and they want to blame it on the morality of a very small group of others.

[WaffleSingSong]

I understand what you're saying, but this isn't just about Uganda not wanting to do their homework or eat their veggies, they're taking away human rights, rights that these people have the right to have. It's not right.

(Emphasize on right, if you didn't see :P )

But that's just it. They think that homosexuality is not right. We can not do anything about it. Only Ugandans can truly change themselves the right way eventually. They do not see it as a right but as a sin. And even though personally I think that is extremely fucked up, we have to accept it. Because do we truly know any better than them?

[Ryhanna]

Sickening.

[Matt_2012]

Wow! Well I'm never going there ahaha. this is just beyond sad.

[FreeFall]

I was going to say every single homosexual and LGBT supporter in the world should just go over there for a day and fight for their global community, but with it being Uganda...probably not a bright idea.

We're over here promoting gay rights and legalizing marriages, and they're going to kill their LGBT community. Ok developing country, just dig yourself deeper into the shit hole.

I hope the homosexuals can make a mass exodus to safety, wherever that may be. I'd rather see them alive and loving than dying by a backwards government.

[Mortal Coil]

I personally think that this law is an abomination and a huge violation of human rights, and I hope this shows anti-LGBTQ+ people elsewhere how fucking stupid they are being.

[TigerBoy]

ut I really think that if a substantial population of a country dosent like something, they should not put up with it.
That reasoning leads to genocide and gas chambers.

But that's just it. They think that homosexuality is not right. We can not do anything about it.
Yes 'we' can, as you would see if you read the article closely. Sanctions are already being discussed. They are not the only or last option.


Only Ugandans can truly change themselves the right way eventually. They do not see it as a right but as a sin. And even though personally I think that is extremely fucked up, we have to accept it. Because do we truly know any better than them?
Yes, 'we' do know better. We know that homosexuality is a natural phenomenon determined before birth and which cannot be changed. Irrespective of that we 'know' the value of civil liberty and tolerance.

[Gordo]

The UN can do whatever. They barely matter. Personally, It isn't clear what America or Europe should do, if anything.

We have precedents, like the war on Iraq. Some think we went there to secure oil for ourselves, but that certainly didn't happen. The rest were content to cross that border, uninvited, to stop the mass murder by Hussain (sp). Yet in America, there wasn't support for doing either and we did it anyway.

So, do we want to do it again? That's the question. They have 89% of the people wanting these laws passed. That's a lot of opposition. What if Europe, South America, China and Russia looked at the USA's right to abortion or how we choose to use the death penalty as equally backwards? What then would we think of other nations sanctioning us or crossing our borders uninvited?

The answer to what countries should do about Uganda is the answer to what those same nations would find acceptable sanctions on themselves for what other nations should do to them when they are perceived to be crossing the line. Remember now, the USA has more people in prison than any other nation for offenses that other cultures tolerate and do a quick check of what countries have the death penalty. The USA keeps some strange company when you look at who still thinks the death penalty is legal and moral.

[Jess]

Horrible and sick. Hopefully the LGBT there can get out safely!

[TigerBoy]

Well it looks like they've pissed off Anonymous again who have just published the bill proponents home addresses

[Anonymous has]released names, email addresses and other relevant information of members of Uganda’s Committee on Legal and Parliamentary Affairs.

In a statement on Monday the group said: “The ‘Kill the gays’ bill has been reintroduced into the Committee on Legal and Parliamentary Affairs in Uganda… Let them know that we will not let this bill pass. And if it does they should expect us.”

In August of this year, Anonymous protesters hacked into two of the Ugandan government’s websites, and accused it of “crimes against LGBT people”.
Source (http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2012/11/13/hacktivists-target-ugandas-anti-gay-lawmakers/)

[PinkFloyd]

This is awful but it is really only one little powerless country... They probably wont have an effect on the rest of africa.

[Green Arrow]

It's such a shame that the announcement of this bill has come barely a week since gay marriage was approved of in 4 states in America. It seems we've taken 2 steps forwards and 3 steps back. I really hope that somehow Uganda sees the light and comes round to relising that gay people are in fact normal people as well.

[Gaybaby94]

Such ignorance and bigotry is absolutely disgusting.

[Sir Suomi]

Now, I may not be for gay marriage, but that is not right. I try not to judge the LGBT community, and as long as they do their thing and not try and not make a big deal, I don't mind them.

[Texas warrior]

I just hope the LGBT community over there can keep themselves safe.

I pray they can as well.

[MisterSix]

haha this is what the people want. Its democracy!
I love the embarrassing little protest anonymous did. Like releasing the names and email addresses will make them re-think the bill

[TigerBoy]

haha this is what the people want. Its democracy!

No, it is theocracy masquerading as democracy.

[Emerald Dream]

I stopped reading the article at "the serious threat posed by homosexuals."

The ignorance of the world is the real serious threat.

[StoneColdNicky]

I read this article today, though with a less sensational headline. To be honest, I'm a little surprised at the outrage - you hear people say things all the time like 'I'm against the death penalty... except for people like paedophiles and rapists!'

[Ryhanna]

I read this article today, though with a less sensational headline. To be honest, I'm a little surprised at the outrage - you hear people say things all the time like 'I'm against the death penalty... except for people like paedophiles and rapists!'
That's different. Paedophiles and rapists are actually hurting other people. Gay people are not.

[StoneColdNicky]

I realise that, but the definition of 'Aggravated homosexuality,' the kind they are getting the death penalty for, includes those kinds of things. I agree that the penalties up to life sentence for regular homosexuality is absurd, but I was just bringing to the discussion that there are people closer to home who proudly say things like that as is.