for diaries.

[Jupiter]

instead of deleting them and the posts maybe send them to a diary archive. because honestly, there have been some pretty epic threads in the past and some pretty epic threads now that will one day be deleted. i mean, they might already be sent to a diary archive, but make it public so that we can look back on the history and how everyone got along, and etc. one last reason that we should have a diary archive is because when you delete diaries like mine, there's got to be hundreds of post counts that will be affected. i wouldn't normally mind, but i'm thinking, if all the diaries from like 6 years ago were deleted, maybe some of the members "i'm leaving" or "retirement" threads would be in there. if someone took the time to write something to leave here, i don't think it should just go hidden.

i just don't see any negative reasons why not to do this, and i've been thinking about it for a while.

thoughts?

[DerBear]

I would agree with this suggestion. Having a diary archive where you could move all the threads into it when a person wishes his or her diary to be delete would be a good idea. Plus the diary mods could move threads they don't want into said diary and if they want it back they could report it/ask a gmod via PM.

I think this would be a good idea.

[Jess]

I'm all for this suggestion.

[Erasmus]

I think this is great idea.

[Cognizant]

Please, add this in Senior staff!

[Stronger]

I like this idea.

[Jupiter]

any other mods or admins input?

[Mirage]

I love this idea! It would preserve post count when the diary is deleted which is the main reason why people hate to delete their diaries in the first place. I fully support this idea.

[DerBear]

I'd also like to think that it would be a good idea for and if people want to give up their diaries. I mean I think sometimes people who have a diary might not wish to give it up due to post count reasons or the fact they know a large number of post count might be effected.

[Professional Russian]

I fully agree with this

[Mortal Coil]

This sounds like a great idea. I've seen some threads around like, "Because xxxxx's diary was deleted, I've recreated this thread here..."
And it would be easier if we just sent the diaries to the hypothetical archive.

[ImCoolBeans]

I'm not so sure. This would really change the entire diary system and I'm not really sure that is necessary. The point of deleting diaries is to get rid of the inactive ones to make way for the new. Surely nobody wants their diary to be deleted; but that's a part of the whole process. Once your diary has become inactive it's your turn to pass on the reigns and let somebody else have a shot. I certainly don't want my diary posts to disappear but when you create a diary you do so knowing that one day it will be gone. If your diary is going to be deleted then you are given a warning. At that point if you want certain threads to be moved to into the main forums then you can let myself or Ronnie know and we will do that for you. I don't dislike the idea personally because it would be nice to keep them forever; but just think about how in two years how unorganized a mess of orphan diaries will be.

[DerBear]

Hmm.

I think one of the main points of this Mike would be so it doesn't effect post count. I mean someone who has made "blah Blah" amount of posts in his or her diary will be dramatically effected when his or her diary is deleted.

I mean for example big diaries that have been here for 1 plus years have bound to have a lot of posts in it and deleting his or her diary would effect the post count. Some way to prevent this would be a good idea and I think this archive type thing would be a good solution.

Normally I don't care about post count. However when someone has made a tons of posts in there diary then I can see where they are coming from.

[ImCoolBeans]

Hmm.

I think one of the main points of this Mike would be so it doesn't effect post count. I mean someone who has made "blah Blah" amount of posts in his or her diary will be dramatically effected when his or her diary is deleted.

I mean for example big diaries that have been here for 1 plus years have bound to have a lot of posts in it and deleting his or her diary would effect the post count. Some way to prevent this would be a good idea and I think this archive type thing would be a good solution.

Normally I don't care about post count. However when someone has made a tons of posts in there diary then I can see where they are coming from.

If your diary is going to be deleted then you are given a warning. At that point if you want certain threads to be moved to into the main forums then you can let myself or Ronnie know and we will do that for you.

That would eliminate that.

[Jupiter]

That would eliminate that.

not in the case of sages diary, which many people's stuff was in. i know they hired new owners, but they weren't active at the time.

[ImCoolBeans]

not in the case of sages diary, which many people's stuff was in. i know they hired new owners, but they weren't active at the time.

I think you missed the point of what I was saying, because what you just said doesn't make much sense.

I said that if you request threads to be moved out of your diary it can be done, and you may also move your own threads out of it as you please to prevent the loss of those posts.

I just don't think that we need an archive for diaries. If you are either banned or let your diary go completely inactive then you should be aware that it will have a shelf life on it. As I said, you can move your threads out of the diary if it is going to be deleted and that will prevent your post count from dropping.

[Jupiter]

I think you missed the point of what I was saying, because what you just said doesn't make much sense.

I said that if you request threads to be moved out of your diary it can be done, and you may also move your own threads out of it as you please to prevent the loss of those posts.

I just don't think that we need an archive for diaries. If you are either banned or let your diary go completely inactive then you should be aware that it will have a shelf life on it. As I said, you can move your threads out of the diary if it is going to be deleted and that will prevent your post count from dropping.

but eventually a thread or diary just gets deleted. what i don't understand is how it would disrupt the diary situation.

[ImCoolBeans]

but eventually a thread or diary just gets deleted. what i don't understand is how it would disrupt the diary situation.

Because then no diary truly gets deleted. We delete diaries so we don't have a million dead diaries with no owner -- all I see this doing is creating just that. What exactly does a massive list dead, orphaned diaries add to anything? It's just going to be a dead archive of diaries who's owners have moved on or abandoned them.

[Jupiter]

Because then no diary truly gets deleted. We delete diaries so we don't have a million dead diaries with no owner -- all I see this doing is creating just that. What exactly does a massive list dead, orphaned diaries add to anything? It's just going to be a dead archive of diaries who's owners have moved on or abandoned them.

let's say that i got banned. steven went inactive, our diary got sent to the archives.

i come back a year or two later and i go into that diary archive, as for a new diary, get those put back in my diary. i don't know. all i see is that you don't think it'll add to anything while many other people think it does. no one has yet said anything that's truly hurting the site.

[Scarface]

Okay, lets just say we do end up having this "archive" (hypothetically speaking of course) and let's also say that over a years time, there were as many threads contained in it as the Puberty 101 archives. That entire archive is a clusterfuck of a headache. Especially if you need to find something or if youre a newer member searching for something. Its a headache within itself. It would look like an unorganized mess of accumulated threads over time. Yeah cool you want memories, makes sense, however, you have choices and communication is key. If you Know your diary will soon be deleted as it can very well be as I stated in the diary guidelines, than make sure to make arrangements to have the threads or such moved to another diary of choice. I'm sure other members or friends wouldn't be such an asshole as to not let you have a single thread or a bit more in their diary for nostalgia's sake. For instance, my diary, I inherited it from another member which then was merged with an entirely different diary. So basically all of its memorable threads and content of that diary are still there, however, I still like to share the diary with its previous owners because I want them to still have a place to come to post in if they feel so.

There are ways to make things work and having some cluttered nightmare of an archive which would then be like a trash can looks bad and I would particularly feel bad for those threads moved there, because it would then get mounded and mounded upon over time from other diaries being either deleted and or moved. It would almost need to be like a sectional archive and what exactly would be the point of that? I don't like this idea.