I donno how to delete

[Elvalight]

Ok, my problem wasn't that I was against homosexuality, but that I was undecided. I just needed info on that, now I want to delete it, but I donno how.

[ackmedsgirl666]

welcome to the 21st century!!!

[HandheldOutlaw]

You have a right to an opinion of your own.
And i don't think its right that someone can tell me i can't get an abortion. Or that i cant love someone because they have the same parts. Just because i can doesn't mean i will.
If you don't like abortion, don't have one.
if you don't like gay marriage, don't marry someone of the same sex.

Im having an abortion
I was raped.
I don't want to go this way. I have no choice.its not that i don't care or that im heartless.
Every situation is different
& its killing me inside

[ImCoolBeans]

Depression, Loss & Grief :arrow: Ramblings of the Wise.
This has nothing to do with D,L&G. Please post in the appropriate section.

[Cicero]

P.S please don't call me names again.
Why is abortion ok now? It's KILLING YOUR OWN BABIES, that you don't even care enough to let live. Why is gay, bi and lesbian so popular now? What ever happened to the strong, wise husband and the kind, caring wife? Why is everything we used to call illegal now legal? Or we just do it anyway?

Times change. The LGBT STILL experience discrimination. So the LGBT movement still have a long, long ways to go. Some people have an abortion because they cannot handle the responsibility of having a baby, due to their emotional/mental state of mind, or due to finances. Some people cannot support a baby, financially or physically. There are also cases of rape and incest. Some people who are raped do not want that memory of the baby, because it may remind them of that experience that happened to them. Abortion isn't suddenly ok or not ok. There are new arguments that are out there like "Its better to have a doctor perform a safe abortion, than the mother do an unsafe abortion themselves". There is also new studies in science that suggest that abortion is alright, because the baby isn't really alive, or on its own until its actually born, or nearing birth. Those are the scientific arguments, but there are still plenty of ethical and moral arguments out there that say that Abortion is wrong. Christianity is strongly against Abortion. Back in the day, women who didn't want their babies, would do unsafe measures to assure they don't have that baby, like using a coat hanger to kill the baby. So its better that a doctor does the procedure vs a woman with a coat hanger. Its also about safety for the women. Many of the older generations today are STRONGLY against abortion and the LGBT movement, and even today there are people who are strongly against abortion and the LGBT movement. But as each year goes on, the LGBT are getting accepted little by little, especially by Hollywood. Hollywood is the driving force behind the LGBT, they strongly support LGBT like Ellen Degeneres, Sophia Vergara, the Versace family, and many others. There are also people who are against the LGBT (and some against abortion) like Donald Trump, Chuck Norris, Cee-Lo, Blake Sheldon, and Chris Brown (some of those artists said very negative things about LGBT which got a lot of attention, which suggest that they are not advocates for it). The main community that is against LGBT in Hollywood is the Country community and the Rap community. Although the Rap community is slowly starting to accept LGBT because of one of their fellow rappers coming out as gay (Frank Ocean I believe).

Edit:
Pro-Choice Does Not mean Pro-Abortion

[Jess]

P.S please don't call me names again.
Why is abortion ok now? It's KILLING YOUR OWN BABIES, that you don't even care enough to let live. Why is gay, bi and lesbian so popular now? What ever happened to the strong, wise husband and the kind, caring wife? Why is everything we used to call illegal now legal? Or we just do it anyway?

1. Abortion is "okay" because it's supposed to be the woman's choice. No one should tell them "you can't have an abortion". It's not THEIR decision to make. If a woman doesn't like abortions - fine. She won't ever get one. But other women might need or want one. That's THEIR choice. And it's not "killing your own babies". Most of the time, it's barely developed. What if the woman was raped? What if she was just a teen?

2. LGBT people deserve the same rights as everyone and anyone else. They shouldn't be treated differently or discriminated against just because of WHO THEY ARE. Years ago, we discriminated against people with different colored skins! It's no different now.

Things are changing. This is the 21st century.

[Elvalight]

Guess I'm alone in this.

[Gigablue]

P.S please don't call me names again.
Why is abortion ok now? It's KILLING YOUR OWN BABIES, that you don't even care enough to let live. Why is gay, bi and lesbian so popular now? What ever happened to the strong, wise husband and the kind, caring wife? Why is everything we used to call illegal now legal? Or we just do it anyway?

Abortion isn't killing a baby, it's stopping the development of a fetus. At the time most abortions are preformed, the fetus has little to no cognitive function and can't feel any pain. The woman's rights are more important than those of the fetus. Also, abortion isn't "now" okay, it always has been. It's just that now it's legal.

Also, there isn't even evidence that there are more LGBT people today, it's just that its more accepted. Even then, there is still huge discrimination. You make it sound as though heterosexuals are in the minority. In addition, the "strong, wise husband and the kind, caring wife" idea seems sexist and outdated. Things change, and people should be free to be with the person they love, regardless of gender.

[HandheldOutlaw]

" Also, there isn't even evidence that there are more LGBT people today, it's just that its more accepted."

^ THIS

You talk like it's new, and as someone else said, if a woman wants an abortion she will obtain it one way or another. If it is illegal, that takes the safety away from abortion. It is the woman's body. I disagree with women having frivolous and unprotected sex and expecting abortions again and again, but what about rape? Incest? The faithful couple who aren't ready for a child but protection failed and it was too late for plan b? You never addressed them love.

[Sugaree]

P.S please don't call me names again.
Why is abortion ok now? It's KILLING YOUR OWN BABIES, that you don't even care enough to let live.

Because until the child is born, it's not considered a human in many respects. It's a living being, yes, but it does not have the same individual rights as a child that has been born.

Why is gay, bi and lesbian so popular now? What ever happened to the strong, wise husband and the kind, caring wife? Why is everything we used to call illegal now legal? Or we just do it anyway?

What do you mean by popular? If you're talking about how gays are presented in Hollywood (Glee, Ricki Lake, etc.), then I can see what you mean; but how is the LGBT popular? To me, as a bisexual, I can see why it's becoming more popular to support LGBT causes in the US, but it's not always a social fad. All we ask is that we can live the way you heterosexuals live; we want to love who we love and be able to dedicate ourselves to them through marriage. It's not like we're trying to make it illegal for YOU to marry, we just want the recognition that we deserve from the state.

[deadpie]

Guess I'm alone in this.

lol awesome debate you just pulled out here in the debating forum. wow you really have me there! Damn! I definitely hate people who get abortions now! I hate gay people! Oops, that means I hate me! Oh well. I guess I could just become straight with the power of Jesus, because God hates fags.

hurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Don't let your family or friends make you decide what you believe is correct. Learn for yourself what is true.

Why are things once 'illegal' that should be legal becoming 'legal'? Because we progress and become less of idiots. Or at least I hope that's happening.

I recommend users read the rest of her posts -

STOP. IT. NOW. I know it's "normal" these days, but it doesn't make it safe, or that you'll live to be even 40.

I have a Grandpa who's over forty years old and smokes dank shit. He's a healthy dude.

since that is incest and unless obama made that legal too

lol what obama never made incest legal

Obama isn't American, or am I miss reading?


http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/barackobama/a/obama_citizen.htm

>gets her facts from a page that says "urban legends"

I didn't personally want either of them, seeing as Obama isn't a Christian( most of the others were)

Obama is in fact a Christian

he supports gay marriage( not that I'm against it, but the KIDS will know)

Yeah because it's not like there's kids that are born gay, lesbian and bisexual. TOTALLY NO WAY. Sarcasm by the way.

he supports abortion( just...wrong...killing... your own...babies...)

Killing a fetus in first trimester does not mean killing a baby

and he isn't American( .... )

Proven he is American by the birth certificate he had to show.

[HandheldOutlaw]

Oh. Wow...
I don't mean to be rude but do you have any evidence at all to back your opinions?
@Op

[Sir Suomi]

P.S please don't call me names again.
Why is abortion ok now? It's KILLING YOUR OWN BABIES, that you don't even care enough to let live. Why is gay, bi and lesbian so popular now? What ever happened to the strong, wise husband and the kind, caring wife? Why is everything we used to call illegal now legal? Or we just do it anyway?

Sadly, this is how our world is starting to become. I am one of the few people I think on this site who for LGBT, abortions, and legalizing marijuana. I've had plenty of arguments with people, and I've come to the conclusion: The media. It makes doing drugs, having unprotected sex, and homosexuality a popular thing. And this influences others to believe that these are acceptable in today's world. I'll probably get shit for saying this, but it's the cold hard truth.

[KillerKing]

P.S please don't call me names again.
Why is abortion ok now? It's KILLING YOUR OWN BABIES, that you don't even care enough to let live. Why is gay, bi and lesbian so popular now? What ever happened to the strong, wise husband and the kind, caring wife? Why is everything we used to call illegal now legal? Or we just do it anyway?

Okay, ehm woah. It's not becoming popular! People are just becoming more aware because people are fighting for their right to be recognised and treated equally regardless of the gender they love and GOOD ON THEM! People think the war already going on is bad, this one has been going on for a much longer time and still there is so much discrimination and hate. The 'wise husband and the kind, caring wife' seems a little bit of an immature view, as this isn't neccessarily the case but if your just on about straight couples then I get it, and they are still there. Not everyone is gay/bi/whatever sexuality... it's not some popluar trendy lifestyle choice people choose, it's something your born with.

Abortion can, depending on a person's point of view, be a good thing. If a 16yo accidently got pregnant, would it be best for her to have it? And then struggle to carry on with an education to get a good job to be able to support her child? And miss out on half of her younger years because while her friends went out and partied, she was stuck at home looking after her baby?

In this instance, I think it's more of a kindness to save a child's suffering so that when the time is right, the girl can concieve by choice and be able to care for her child.]

This post seems more of an uneducated and barely thought of rant.

[Gigablue]

Sadly, this is how our world is starting to become. I am one of the few people I think on this site who for LGBT, abortions, and legalizing marijuana. I've had plenty of arguments with people, and I've come to the conclusion: The media. It makes doing drugs, having unprotected sex, and homosexuality a popular thing. And this influences others to believe that these are acceptable in today's world. I'll probably get shit for saying this, but it's the cold hard truth.

Do you have any evidence? Drugs have existed for millennia. I highly doubt that the media is responsible for drug use. Also, people have been having unprotected sex for an equally long time, and there isn't really any increase. All our evidence suggests that homosexuality is a product of genes and prenatal hormones, not media influences. I'd like to see some sources.

[HandheldOutlaw]

Another thought - just kind of random.
There have been many stories (now and throughout history) where mothers have killed an unwanted child After it was born. I think that's worse than a first trimester abortion. And if abortion was completely illegal, not only would women have unsafe "home" abortions, but i also believe that more instances of killing the living, post-birth baby would occur. I may be wrong in so many ways but it was a thought

[Iron Man]

P.S please don't call me names again.
Why is abortion ok now?
I probably responded to a question like this, but if a woman can't afford to bring up a child, then there is that. In cases of rape, must the woman bring up her rapist's baby?

Why is gay, bi and lesbian so popular now?
The world isn't as homophobic as it was decades ago. People are finally having the strength to be themselves. I don't ask you why you are straight, do I?


What ever happened to the strong, wise husband and the kind, caring wife?

Divorce happens, you know. Long before the "rise in popularity of homosexuality"

[ImCoolBeans]

Why is abortion ok now?
When was it "not okay"?

It's KILLING YOUR OWN BABIES
An abortion cannot be given at just any time in the pregnancy. Abortions are generally always given within the first 12 weeks of a pregnancy. In the first 12 weeks there is little to no brain function and the fetus cannot feel any pain at all. There is no pain and/or suffering involved.

I'm not sure you have all of your facts straight.

that you don't even care enough to let live.
Why should a woman who has been raped be forced to have her rapists baby? Why should she be reminded daily that her baby was fathered by somebody who violated and abused her sexually. Sexual abuse is devastating -- nobody should be forced to live with the biggest reminder and trigger of them all.

I don't see the classic "well you could always put the baby up for adoption" point as a valid one, either. Not a day will go by when the mother won't think about the child and it will always remain in the victims mind that she brought her rapists baby into the world and then sent it on his or her way.

Why is gay, bi and lesbian so popular now? What ever happened to the strong, wise husband and the kind, caring wife?
Why should anybody ever be oppressed because they love somebody of the same sex? It's extremely ignorant to say "What ever happened to the strong, wise husband and the kind, caring wife?" By that you're saying that I shouldn't be allowed to marry another man simply because you're too much of a homophobe to think otherwise. Can you please give some reasons as to why being gay is so wrong? Why shouldn't we be allowed to get married? Why shouldn't I be able to love another man if I want to? Why shouldn't I be able to share the same marital rights that a straight man shares with his wife?

Everybody always tries to say that gays shouldn't have to marry to be in love. In theory that is true; but do you realize that the reason why gays want marriage equality is for the legal benefits that come along with marriage? Lets say I have a life partner, who is another male, and he dies tragically. If we are not married then I would not be the one calling the shots to pull the plug even if I was the sole person of importance in his life. His parents would be able to deny me of any right his possessions, money (even if we shared income) and ultimately they could erase me from everything that was his.

I think it's criminal to say "no you can't get married" to two people who are in love just because they happen to be of the same sex -- not just because it's unfair but also because a sudden death mixed with a disapproving or greedy family could be devastating for the living partner.

Why is everything we used to call illegal now legal? Or we just do it anyway?

What even?

[deadpie]

The media.

This idea that people have that a 'liberal media' exists is complete bs. The most watched news station is Fox News which is conservative.

It makes doing drugs

All because you see characters doing drugs doesn't mean they're being pro for it. If any drugs are used in a positive way it's probably marijuana. You're not going to see a television show be pro-meth or pro-heroin.

having unprotected sex

I have seen no shows that prove characters are having unprotected sex. That is just an out of the blue statement for you to come up with.

and homosexuality a popular thing.

"popular thing" is a pretty homophobic comment imo. Pretty much you saying it's a bad thing, even though people are born gay, bisexual, and lesbians every day, something YOU CANNOT CONTROL. Are you saying people are just born shit people and fuck them? That's pretty misanthropic of you.

If anything television makes all gay people look feminine, which I think is homophobic and not a positive message. Another thing is every gay character in a drama ends up getting killed in a show. It just happens. I don't know why people like to do this.

I'll probably get shit for saying this, but it's the cold hard truth.

"Cold hard truth"

Your opinions are not truth or else the thread would be locked, there would be no point for debating, and your views would be written down as fact in college text books by now.

[Sir Suomi]

This idea that people have that a 'liberal media' exists is complete bs. The most watched news station is Fox News which is conservative.



All because you see characters doing drugs doesn't mean they're being pro for it. If any drugs are used in a positive way it's probably marijuana. You're not going to see a television show be pro-meth or pro-heroin.



I have seen no shows that prove characters are having unprotected sex. That is just an out of the blue statement for you to come up with.



"popular thing" is a pretty homophobic comment imo. Pretty much you saying it's a bad thing, even though people are born gay, bisexual, and lesbians every day, something YOU CANNOT CONTROL. Are you saying people are just born shit people and fuck them? That's pretty misanthropic of you.

If anything television makes all gay people look feminine, which I think is homophobic and not a positive message. Another thing is every gay character in a drama ends up getting killed in a show. It just happens. I don't know why people like to do this.



"Cold hard truth"

Your opinions are not truth or else the thread would be locked, there would be no point for debating, and your views would be written down as fact in college text books by now.

Ugh, you are just following me everywhere now, arn't you?
Now I have watched television shows where unprotected sex, homosexuality, and drugs are frequently involved. For an example, Degrassi(Don't know if I spelled that right) I used to watch a few episodes with a old girlfriend of mine, and from what I saw, it was complete and utter bullshit. Watch it, and you shall see.

[Gigablue]

Ugh, you are just following me everywhere now, arn't you?
Now I have watched television shows where unprotected sex, homosexuality, and drugs are frequently involved. For an example, Degrassi(Don't know if I spelled that right) I used to watch a few episodes with a old girlfriend of mine, and from what I saw, it was complete and utter bullshit. Watch it, and you shall see.

I don't think anyone was saying tv doesn't show drugs, sex or homosexuality. It does, but that's not the same as saying that tv leads to drug use, sex or homosexuality. You made that claim and have yet to provide any evidence.

[ImCoolBeans]

Ugh, you are just following me everywhere now, arn't you?
Now I have watched television shows where unprotected sex, homosexuality, and drugs are frequently involved. For an example, Degrassi(Don't know if I spelled that right) I used to watch a few episodes with a old girlfriend of mine, and from what I saw, it was complete and utter bullshit. Watch it, and you shall see.

Why exactly should homosexuality be prohibited on TV? Kids are way too sheltered these days and it's extremely sad to see somebody say that seeing two men in love on television is a bad thing. I would say that it in fact a good thing and that it would hopefully let the idea of equality get around a bit more. Maybe it hasn't because of the lack of the general lack of homosexual relationships on TV shows and in movies.

[Iron Man]

Ugh, you are just following me everywhere now, arn't you?

Welcome to the Internet.


Now I have watched television shows where unprotected sex, homosexuality, and drugs are frequently involved.

It seems today, that all you see, is violence in movies and sex on TV....

For an example, Degrassi(Don't know if I spelled that right) I used to watch a few episodes with a old girlfriend of mine, and from what I saw, it was complete and utter bullshit. Watch it, and you shall see.

Have you ever seen Saw? I guess that shit happens all the time..

[Sir Suomi]

Alright, I'm going to have to raise my white flag. I can't take arguing with everyone anymore. I'm just gonna keep my opinion to myself, since I don't think anyone here actually supports me on my ideas anymore -_-

[HandheldOutlaw]

At the end of the day, we decide what we do.
Seeing Paige and Alex on Degrassi as a couple didn't make me bi. Being bi made me bi. Watching Marco gamble didn't make me gamble. Seeing mia's baby didn't make me pregnant.
A lot of other people share the same story.
You choose for yourself what you do, and i think its horrible that people can blame the media for their own actions. If you use drugs, its because you chose to use drugs. Not because Mary Sue forced you to use drugs because you saw her doing it.

[Sir Suomi]

..... And just like that, once again, everyone chooses to give me negative rep again. Sometimes, I do hate the people on this website. Oh well, I guess that's what happens when you voice your opinion.

[Iron Man]

..... And just like that, once again, everyone chooses to give me negative rep again. Sometimes, I do hate the people on this website. Oh well, I guess that's what happens when you voice your opinion.

If I had a dollar for every time someone complained about neg rep, I could own VT.

[HandheldOutlaw]

Not gonna lie, you were being respectful, that was wrong that someone negative repped you for your opinion.

[Sir Suomi]

If I had a dollar for every time someone complained about neg rep, I could own VT.

You're Iron Man, just buy VT. Don't rely on other people like me's bitching :P

[ImCoolBeans]

Aaaaaand back on topic...

[Sir Suomi]

Nah, I'm done trying to fight a losing war here. You guys go talk about whatever the hell you want.

Edit: Haha, this is hillarious to watch all the stuff people are saying about me! Keep it up guys! I love ya! :D

[ImCoolBeans]

Nah, I'm done trying to fight a losing war here. You guys go talk about whatever the hell you want.

Edit: Haha, this is hillarious to watch all the stuff people are saying about me! Keep it up guys! I love ya! :D

I guess you ignored me when I said to stay on topic. Let's stop derailing this thread more than it needs to be -- if you continue infractions will be given out.

[FreeFall]

P.S please don't call me names again.
Please don't try to control what I decide with my uterus or if my LGBT friends have rights or not.
Why is abortion ok now?
MISCONCEPTION. MISCONCEPTION.

This modern age is really the only time where there's been a big stink that it's not ok and that we've the power to make women give birth whether they like it or not.

Women have been aborting babies since they learned they could. Ancient civilizations had crude methods that often killed them. They'd stand over fire, they'd shove sticks up there, they'd throw themselves from high heights, or go outside in freezing temperatures nude. Go to a museum, in some of them you'll find the special sticks used to abort, some even personalized for the family. Some Ancient Asian civilizations used mercury to abort. Pretty much, in the last 100 years, was when people began to say "Hey woman, I want you to give birth because I say so".

It's KILLING YOUR OWN BABIES, that you don't even care enough to let live.
Here we go.

Hey you! 14 year old Girl viciously kidnapped from the school parking lot, and raped and beaten for two weeks until you were rescued. Your attacker circulated videos of your rape all over the web, don't worry we're still looking for him. But how dare you even think of abortion you cruel heartless bitch! You're only 14 and have gone through hell, but that baby's innocent! You can handle one more traumatizing event right? Hm, pretty please?

Hey, there woman who's husband raped her? You silly old thing, you're married, your vagina became 24/7 accessible to your husband whenever he pleased! You shouldn't have told him you were too tired, then he'd never have forced you! You're pregnant and traumatized and going through a divorce, why don't you care about your child!? It's your husband's baby too! So what if he raped you, you were his wife and you're a heartless monster to even think of saving yourself from any further trauma, he'd be a good father, just live with it for the next few months!

Hey there, woman and husband who's birth control failed and have no way of being financially stable, how fucking dare you try to hold off on giving a child a life better than if they were to be born! Don't you know how easy it is to give up a child for adoption? Never mind you still have those medical bills and per-natal services to worry about that your insurance won't cover! Oh and that maternity leave that would really take a huge chunk out of the already meager money you have? Forget about it, you selfish bitch! And when they may put you on bed-rest for the safety of you health and the baby's? Think of it as an early, super special maternity leave that will only dent your life by, oh I don't know, a lot. Aborting and the counseling they make mandatory will only take a tiny chunk out of your tiny amount of money, so how dare you even try to think of a better life!

EDIT: I hate using rape to justify abortion, you can't fight that one fetus is more valuable than another just because of the circumstance from which they came from, but you didn't specify so I gave you the most gruesome topics I could find. You know what's sick, that some of them have very much truth to them. So would you dare to look these women in the eyes and call them heartless bitches that have no empathy for others after the ordeals they've had? If anyone can or have, they're an apathetic hypocrite, the real heartless monsters. To focus on the fetus so much that you morph the women of any kind of rape into being an incubator without emotions, feelings, or a mind of their own, you're so caring.

Why is gay, bi and lesbian so popular now?
Popular? Excuse me?

What ever happened to the strong, wise husband
What do you mean? He's still here. He's working 10 to 5 and will be home soon to his husband and their two pugs.

and the kind, caring wife?
She's still here. She's making dinner for when her wife gets home from a long day of charity work. They're going to have apple pie for dessert! Why is everything we used to call illegal now legal?
It used to be illegal for atheists to even stand in a court to testify or defend themselves.
It used to be illegal for women to do much of anything, they didn't have the right to.
It used to be illegal for a black woman to shop in a white store.
It used to be illegal for different races to marry each other.
What's your point?
Or we just do it anyway?
If they ever outlaw those things I have listed again, hell will walk on Earth. So damn right we do them, we do what is right.

[Sir Suomi]

Fine. I don't support gays being married, I don't support the government legalizing marijuana so that lazy pot-smokers can sit on their butts all day wasting their lives, and I think a portion of women who get abortion are heartless people who don't deserve the right to even breathe! There, that's my opinion in it's simplist form.

[HandheldOutlaw]

"I think a portion of women who get abortion are heartless people who don't deserve the right to even breathe!"

Thanks.
That feels wonderful.

I understand you said "portion", but what circumstance falls under portion? If there's a line you've yet to draw it.

[Sir Suomi]

"I think a portion of women who get abortion are heartless people who don't deserve the right to even breathe!"

Thanks.
That feels wonderful.

No, not you. I'm talking about the women who go out and have frequent abortions because of their carelessness to use protection. I'm sorry, I was a little angry when I wrote that, and I want to apologize. Sorry, it's just a lot of the things I argue about, matter to me personally, and that's because of stuff that's happened to me in the past. Now, please forgive me and my behavior. I'm sorry.

[Gigablue]

Fine. I don't support gays being married.

Why not? How do two people getting married affect you in any way? How does it do any harm to society? Even if you don't like it, why should your personal morals dictate whether two people who love each other can get married.

[HandheldOutlaw]

I realized too late you said "portion" so I'm sorry too. :(
I agree, having an abortion because you CHOSE to have sex, and you CHOSE not to usebprotrction (not "protection failed", just didn't use it) , then it shouldnt be a problem putting adoption into consideration.

[Sir Suomi]

Why not? How do two people getting married affect you in any way? How does it do any harm to society? Even if you don't like it, why should your personal morals dictate whether two people who love each other can get married.

Please, I'm done. Let people do what they want to do. If you're gay and wanna get married? Go ahead. If you wanna spend your days smoking pot? Go ahead. I really don't care anymore.

[Emerald Dream]

I am pretty much pro-choice in regards to most of these issues.

That doesn't mean I would make those choices myself. It's not my place (or anyone's) to tell others what to do, though.

[Cicero]

Sadly, this is how our world is starting to become. I am one of the few people I think on this site who for LGBT, abortions, and legalizing marijuana. I've had plenty of arguments with people, and I've come to the conclusion: The media. It makes doing drugs, having unprotected sex, and homosexuality a popular thing. And this influences others to believe that these are acceptable in today's world. I'll probably get shit for saying this, but it's the cold hard truth.

Saying that the media is making homosexuality popular suggests that its more of a fad than anything. Which it isn't. Its a lifestyle. All the media has done is spread awareness of the LGBT community. I haven't really watched Glee, but from what I can imagine, that show helps spread awareness for the hardships that the LGBT community experience.

The media does however does make using drugs popular. Sources for this claim? Look at the majority of shows, tons of TV shows and movies show them using drugs of different types. For unprotected sex however, I really don't know whether or not they have unprotected sex. I am actually wondering how you know? lol its not like they show the sex scenes and its not like they show the guy putting on a condom. From what I have seen though, I have seen them suggest they are using protected sex, cause the guy might have a condom in his pocket or wallet or whatever. One more thing with the drug thing, people are now realizing that the problem isn't illicit drugs, but legal drugs. More people have been harmed (or died) from using legal drugs vs illegal drugs. More people have even died from alcohol than illegal drugs (ie. driving under the influence [DUI])

All the LGBT community want, is equality. They just want the same rights as a married heterosexual couple. It's not like they're asking for something insane like a free car. Just equality. I'm not jumping on the "Hate on Austin" bandwagon. I was just sayin. When I was writing all this, there were another 8+ posts or so. It took a while to write this :lol:

One more thing to OP:

When people say they are "Pro-Choice" that doesn't mean they think abortion is good (or for some even ok) they just think that it's the womans choice and not the government. So Pro-Choice DOES NOT equal Pro-Abortion

[Emerald Dream]

One more thing to OP:

When people say they are "Pro-Choice" that doesn't mean they think abortion is good (or for some even ok) they just think that it's the womans choice and not the government. So Pro-Choice[COLOR="Red"] DOES NOT equal Pro-Abortion

Exactly the way I feel.

[Sugaree]

Anyone who says Glee helps the LGBT causes is stupid. Sure, they raise awareness to them, but the corporate heads of Fox use every stereotype about the LGBT community and it's disgusting to see people stand by it.

[ImCoolBeans]

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