View Full Version : 4 more years..
Sleepy Raisin
November 7th, 2012, 07:01 PM
4 more years of Obama.
Are you happy about it? Why? Do think he's going to be able to take us out a little from our debt and enemployment?
Im not a political person.. But my answers: No. Im not happy about it, because in the four years Obama has been in office he's made things worse economically, it took him less than four years to take us under 8% unemployment.
Although, Romney isnt the greatest choice, by far, but better than Obama. Not that it matters its over now, but Romney is a buisnessman and knows has a good plan for us economically.
Lost in the Echo
November 7th, 2012, 07:08 PM
I feel the exact same as you, but people say we're making progress. Since when is 8% unemployment and 6 trillion dollars in debt making progress? Seems kinda fucked up how someone would want another 4 years of more debt and unemployment, but whatever, ask and you shall receive. I'm just hoping it won't be as bad as it was in his first term as president, but I wouldn't count on it. It's a sad day in America today :(
Jupiter
November 7th, 2012, 07:12 PM
the same as i've felt in every other thread about it :P
i really don't care TOO much. i think that it'll be okay, but it won't really help much either.
Akasuki
November 7th, 2012, 07:20 PM
I'm happy that we're not stuck with Romney.
That's about it.
Twilly F. Sniper
November 7th, 2012, 08:29 PM
I'm happy that we're not stuck with Romney.
That's about it.
Right on the dot. No war with China!!! WOO!!!
Sleepy Raisin
November 7th, 2012, 09:09 PM
I feel the exact same as you, but people say we're making progress. Since when is 8% unemployment and 6 trillion dollars in debt making progress? Seems kinda fucked up how someone would want another 4 years of more debt and unemployment, but whatever, ask and you shall receive. I'm just hoping it won't be as bad as it was in his first term as president, but I wouldn't count on it. It's a sad day in America today :(
I agree, why would we want MORE of that? But like you im hoping for our countries sake he's going to make GOOD change not the bad change we have been recieving.
It is a sad day in America, to quote a friend "I've lost all hope for America now."
vitorioso
November 7th, 2012, 10:09 PM
I am fine with it, not jubilent but glad. At least Romney is not in power, hoooolly shiteee. That would be a nightmare for immigrants, minorities, gays, elderly, the poor, and who knows who else!
For those on here complaining about the economy, all I have to say is that the economy is NOT the single most important thing in life. In my opinion, education, equal rights, and a modern infrastructure is as important. Yes, they do all depend on the economy one way or another, but the economy depends on them as well! Luckily, Obama seems to have his mind and judgement on these other "lesser important issues" in the right place. He might not be the best, but he is the MUCH lesser of the two "evils".
I don't want to argue about politics, but for those saying that you have "lost hope for your country", too bad for yourself! Let your section of the country fail then, if you really lost all hope -_-. Sorry if that is a bit harsh, but that is the truth. Stop complaining and exercise your voice for change.
Sleepy Raisin
November 7th, 2012, 11:43 PM
I don't want to argue about politics, but for those saying that you have "lost hope for your country", too bad for yourself! Let your section of the country fail then, if you really lost all hope -_-. Sorry if that is a bit harsh, but that is the truth. Stop complaining and exercise your voice for change.
If you dont want to argue politics then why are you on a political debate?
And also youre telling us to "excercise your voice for a change" well considering most of us here are all under 18 anyways infind that quite impossible considering the fact that we cant vote and nobody wants to listne to a bunch of teenagers who "dont know what they're talking about."
Thunderstorm
November 10th, 2012, 08:20 PM
I am not jumping up and down wiht glory, but I am definitely happy and satisfied. Romney has absolutely no view of the middle class. He doesn't know what it feels like to be poor. He is a billionaire, and a despicable one at that. He isn't as bad as Trump but he definitely has somewhat of a sonbby attitude. He really had no chance since Obama had every major state. Romney thinks that all single parent households are on welfare. That's what made some adults I know that are republican pull towards Obama. Ronmney lied to Ohioans about stuff they already know the truth about. He said Jeep was moving to China, even know Ohioans follow the automobile industry just like a football fanatic follows football. Why would he lie like that? In a swing state? He definitely ha somehting wrong in his mind. He is not fit for preident, and I'm not saying Obama is much better, but at least he knows how to handle money, and he knows what it's like to be rasing 2 kids on an average salary. Enough with these billionaires who think they know politics...
FreeFall
November 10th, 2012, 10:08 PM
I'm going to say, he was the lesser of two evils.
Romney's great with money, but his complete shit with everything else. America needs to get out of debt yes, but it's not going to fix itself in 4 years. Not even Romney would've been able to get us under 16%. He flip flops too much. He'd be for one policy one year, and reverse it the next. Then he'd be indifferent. With how our country is, we need stability, not someone going to move with how the boat rocks.
Our gay community would've suffered immensely under Romney. Planned Parenthood (which is, shockingly, more than just a place to go for abortions), which I have to rely on for the health of my uterus, would've taken a beating. Minorities, Romney managed to piss of pretty much most of the communities. The middle class, which he thinks has a bunch of money, would've been hit with more taxes. And atheists, run.
The economy's important yes, but we have social issues too and those have no place in being ignored, especially when those affect how and the way we get to go out in this country and live. With money, you're concerned about being able to survive, but it's useless if what you needs isn't available.
So is Obama great? Hell no. Will he "fix" our country? Decades of shit is going to take a long time to shovel out. We'll have to wait through at least 2 or 1 more President.
Jess
November 11th, 2012, 09:23 PM
I'm happy that we're not stuck with Romney.
That's about it.
Pretty much this.
I just hope Obama does a better job this time, and somehow improve the economy...
Terrell613091
November 11th, 2012, 11:44 PM
I guess im happy
wolfishgirl
November 12th, 2012, 01:17 PM
I have to say that no, I'm not happy with Obama being president for four more years. These past four years he did nothing to help improve or help America other than have Osama Bin Laden killed, and face it any president during that time would have done it. I feel like it's someone else's turn now. Romney isn't my first choice, but I feel that we should at least give him a chance.
HUSTLEMAN
November 13th, 2012, 06:23 PM
I'm a happy man. 4 more years of OBAMA
AkuRokuStalker
November 13th, 2012, 06:46 PM
You can say goodbye to america because by the time Obama is done with it we will most likely be a socialism country.
Coolboi
November 13th, 2012, 07:06 PM
I'm happy now because I will support our president an leader but I did want change
like someone new maybe better . we will see !
PerpetualImperfexion
November 13th, 2012, 07:54 PM
Wasn't it Einstein who said "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results." We have four years that witness what Obama is going to do in the next four years. Romney? He has yet to be president, so we really don't know what he would do. Lemme ask this: Would you fill a blimp with hydrogen after watching the Hindenburg video?
Jean Poutine
November 13th, 2012, 10:34 PM
the economy
the economy
the economy
the economy
the economy
the economy
the economy
the economy
Do you even know what "the economy" is? If you did, you wouldn't say Obama "made it worse".
You can say goodbye to america because by the time Obama is done with it we will most likely be a socialism country.
What are you talking about? Democrats aren't even at the center of the spectrum. They are just a little less right-wing than Republicans. A far cry from socialism.
If anything Obama will turn America into a fairer country, not some commie stronghold every American seems to fear. Obamacare? Obamacare was nothing. Nothing. It could have and should have gone much farther.
I'm just going to say one thing. If you are not rich and you vote Republican, you're voting for having a broom spiked with rusty nails shoved up your asshole without any sort of lube whatsoever.
How did the trickle down doctrine ever sound like a good idea to you guys?
PerpetualImperfexion
November 13th, 2012, 11:04 PM
I'm just going to say one thing. If you are not rich and you vote Republican, you're voting for having a broom spiked with rusty nails shoved up your asshole without any sort of lube whatsoever.
How did the trickle down doctrine ever sound like a good idea to you guys?
The "rich" employ the middle class. Adding to their taxes would add a degree of uncertainty that would hurt job creation. Especially when you consider where their money is going. Taking away the riches money and giving to a couch potato that isn't even willing to look for a job doesn't seem like a good idea considering they could just as easily use that money to hire someone who isn't a burden on society.
That's ok, Canada is going towards socialism anyways.
Jean Poutine
November 14th, 2012, 01:02 PM
The "rich" employ the middle class.
lol
I've written extensively on the subject in another topic. Suffice to say that this is the biggest corporate lie running around and people are still taking it so massively up their butthole that they do stupid shit like vote Republican. With corporations SOMEHOW given the right to political freedom of expression, one doesn't even have to wonder why the US are completely ass-backwards, and why the GOP even gets away with the shit it does. America is a disgrace to democracy, and I say this with the utmost chagrin.
That is unless your definition of the middle class is in the 6 figures in which case it is a patently wrong definition of the middle class.
Especially when you consider where their money is going. Taking away the riches money and giving to a couch potato that isn't even willing to look for a job doesn't seem like a good idea considering they could just as easily use that money to hire someone who isn't a burden on society.
lol+
Everybody (especially Americans) seems to think welfare entails taking from the rich to give to drug dealers and people who can't be fucked to find a job.
For those of us who actually live in progressive welfare states where everybody, no matter his faults (including a lack of ambition) deserves a shot at life, the reality is nowhere as black.
First, it's impossible to live on welfare if you're not actively trying to find a job. Your check is docked by 25% if the government thinks you're not trying hard enough, and that check is not even enough to live in the first place. Hell, I'm a college student and I receive more in bursaries per month than people on welfare do.
Second, most welfare money isn't even given straight in the hands of people. Most taxes go into subsidized housing (HLMs here, like projects in America except not slums), programs to stimulate employment and so on. Welfare is a basket and the money handouts are a tiny portion of said basket.
Third, a minority of welfare recipients are drug dealers and/or "couch potatoes". This is a stereotype (again). The vast majority of welfare recipients are disabled. Others are simply down on their luck and need a push.
Admission is as strict as it needs to be. If you start hiring people to go around and bust welfare cheats and the like, costs will go UP, not down. 550$ times 12 months is 6600$ of welfare for one person. The price of hiring people to make sure people on welfare aren't abusing drugs, detectives to bust welfare cheats (as was experimented with in Quebec) and the like is vastly more expensive, and if you have stricter entry conditions then you leave people behind who may truly need it.
That's ok, Canada is going towards socialism anyways.
Snort. Shows what you know about Canada, ie not much.
PerpetualImperfexion
November 14th, 2012, 04:06 PM
lol
I've written extensively on the subject in another topic. Suffice to say that this is the biggest corporate lie running around and people are still taking it so massively up their butthole that they do stupid shit like vote Republican. With corporations SOMEHOW given the right to political freedom of expression, one doesn't even have to wonder why the US are completely ass-backwards, and why the GOP even gets away with the shit it does. America is a disgrace to democracy, and I say this with the utmost chagrin.
Wait are you saying that people are not employed by people that have money to invest (the rich)?
ayelove100
November 14th, 2012, 04:15 PM
I am sooo happy obama won. Mitt romney was gonna go into many wars and take away food stamps and disability benefits for people. He was gonna screw up the place so yes i am happy that obama won :)
Jean Poutine
November 16th, 2012, 11:47 AM
Wait are you saying that people are not employed by people that have money to invest (the rich)?
You don't need to be rich to employ and invest and the fact that 94% of businesses in Canada have less than 100 employees speaks for itself.
The money needs to go to the franchisee shouldering the costs of actually running the fucking store, not the CEO who wipes with 100$ bills and does nothing but rubber stamp.
vBulletin® v3.8.9, Copyright ©2000-2021, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.