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Cicero
November 2nd, 2012, 12:23 AM
On the news some were feuding over him resuming his campaign right after a catastrophic hurricane (strongest in NY) while others said that its the states Senators and governors responsibility to take care of the hurricane rebuilding and relief. Should Obama have spent more time on Hurricane Sandy and addressed the issues it has caused or was it a smart move to resume the campaign and was it excusable with the election so close?

Abyssal Echo
November 2nd, 2012, 12:37 AM
I think he should deal with the issues caused by Sandy. But, as my mom says actions speak louder than words. if hes back campaining then its obvious hes about himself and not the people.

Magical
November 2nd, 2012, 01:18 AM
Wow. And has Romney started campaigning again?

?

Yes.

At the same time.

So if Obama didn't start campaigning again with Romney, he could most possibly lose the election. What with how Republicans like to ignore things.

Abyssal Echo
November 2nd, 2012, 01:33 AM
Wow. And has Romney started campaigning again?

?

Yes.

At the same time.

So if Obama didn't start campaigning again with Romney, he could most possibly lose the election. What with how Republicans like to ignore things.

If Obama would roll up his sleaves and help the people he would win support from people and their votes.

Magical
November 2nd, 2012, 03:14 AM
If Obama would roll up his sleaves and help the people he would win support from people and their votes.

Yeah...

Not really. Republicans like to ignore things like that.

TheBigUnit
November 2nd, 2012, 05:09 AM
To a degree yes, I think obama should have "showed" off more of his work but ny and nj aren't battleground states, almost guarenteed he wins those states, pa and oh are technically more important before tuesday

FreeFall
November 2nd, 2012, 11:55 AM
He was going to be damned either way.

Some are pissed he's not holding their hands, mainly the ones that refused to evacuate, even Governor Christie was pissed some people refused to leave, Why do you deserve the President when your own Governor's angry you stayed in the path? And making a huge scene over this sad event.

If he were to help, we'd have the rest of the unaffected country pissed at the two politicians using the hurricane as their advantage. It'd be less about the clean up and the tragedy some Americans are facing, and more on how Romney rescued a dog from a flooded basement or Obama recovered then ashes of an old woman for her husband from a wrecked home. Basically they'd claim they've just twisted a sad reality into some political stint.

No president can ever win when a hurricane complete hits. Bush was scorned for not helping, but when he did talk about helping, he was scorned for ignoring "larger matters".

Sugaree
November 2nd, 2012, 12:50 PM
To a degree yes, I think obama should have "showed" off more of his work but ny and nj aren't battleground states, almost guarenteed he wins those states, pa and oh are technically more important before tuesday

You're looking at it from an election perspective. Obviously the President needed to deal with Sandy first, and that's what he did. But with the election so close, he had no other choice. He'd be scorned either way.

TheBigUnit
November 2nd, 2012, 02:38 PM
He was going to be damned either way.

Some are pissed he's not holding their hands, mainly the ones that refused to evacuate, even Governor Christie was pissed some people refused to leave, Why do you deserve the President when your own Governor's angry you stayed in the path? And making a huge scene over this sad event.

If he were to help, we'd have the rest of the unaffected country pissed at the two politicians using the hurricane as their advantage. It'd be less about the clean up and the tragedy some Americans are facing, and more on how Romney rescued a dog from a flooded basement or Obama recovered then ashes of an old woman for her husband from a wrecked home. Basically they'd claim they've just twisted a sad reality into some political stint.


i actually never heard of that, hmm dont get me wrong i dont like it when ppl does stuff for show, such as paul ryan "washing" clean pots and pans after the homless shelter was closed,

Do you think the president should be more of a "pep" rally guy, instead of acting like superman? I think they should be the sign of help when they arrive so should a caravan of various services, Instead organizations like the red cross hasnt come to the hardest hit place yet, stanten island, my area didnt get badly hit but places here mite not have power for another week

Cicero
November 2nd, 2012, 06:31 PM
i actually never heard of that, hmm dont get me wrong i dont like it when ppl does stuff for show, such as paul ryan "washing" clean pots and pans after the homless shelter was closed,

Do you think the president should be more of a "pep" rally guy, instead of acting like superman? I think they should be the sign of help when they arrive so should a caravan of various services, Instead organizations like the red cross hasnt come to the hardest hit place yet, stanten island, my area didnt get badly hit but places here mite not have power for another week

those pots were actually dirty, he called and asked if they could leave some extra pots and pans for him and his team to clean. on the news, a lady was interviewed (the one who allowed them in) and the only wrong thing they did was run late. those pans were actualy dirty

TheBigUnit
November 2nd, 2012, 08:41 PM
Were they really? Hmm I heard they came in after it was closed and such and ryan was putting up a show, anyway ill have to look more into this and check, I always thought RT was really accurate for most issues, o well

ImCoolBeans
November 2nd, 2012, 08:44 PM
You're looking at it from an election perspective. Obviously the President needed to deal with Sandy first, and that's what he did. But with the election so close, he had no other choice. He'd be scorned either way.

Matt hit the nail on the head. What does it matter? No matter his decision there would certainly be a negative response.

FreeFall
November 2nd, 2012, 08:50 PM
Do you think the president should be more of a "pep" rally guy, instead of acting like superman? I think they should be the sign of help when they arrive so should a caravan of various services, Instead organizations like the red cross hasnt come to the hardest hit place yet, stanten island, my area didnt get badly hit but places here mite not have power for another week
The President can do whatever he sees fit, no President is going to win over every single person in an event of a disaster.

If Obama were to push a "Help out, let's all help out" sort of thing, people would scorn him for telling us to do something instead of him being out there doing it himself.
If he does go out to help, the standard 'he's doing it so he'll get votes" will fly around.

Frankly, I'd prefer that people would ignore Romney and Obama and focus on those that need help, not what politician is doing what.

Manjusri
November 3rd, 2012, 09:16 PM
Not really. Republicans like to ignore things like that.

That's why romney paraded around in a van handing out supplies to victims of the hurricane?

In my opinion romney played it better than obama. He incorporated the relief efforts into his campaign, hitting two birds with one stone. Good on you romney.

Magical
November 3rd, 2012, 10:13 PM
That's why romney paraded around in a van handing out supplies to victims of the hurricane?

In my opinion romney played it better than obama. He incorporated the relief efforts into his campaign, hitting two birds with one stone. Good on you romney.

Great job misrepresenting my point.

IF you take the post that I was responding to - if you didn't quote mine - you would have seen that what I said was in response to Midnight Queen, who said: 'If Obama would roll up his sleaves and help the people he would win support from people and their votes.'

I was talking about Republican OPINIONS OF Obama. Not what Romney DID.

DerBear
November 4th, 2012, 11:11 AM
If I am being honest Romney did a lot of campaigning during disasters similar to Sandy. Obama did and has spent time on Both his campaign and has addressed issues regarding sandy. He has made comments and taken action on the power outages. However really how much can he do? I mean lets face it. He can't deal with insurance and power companies and all the other stuff involved. Is he meant to sit and stop and look like he is doing nothing or grieve with the families?

Honestly I don't think it matters. He can't directly help the people he can only oversee things. He had done a bit of both from what I can tell over the last few days.

Also OP, did you have to make everything in such a massive size. It really is annoying.

Stronger
November 4th, 2012, 11:27 AM
Matt hit the nail on the head. What does it matter? No matter his decision there would certainly be a negative response.

If I am being honest Romney did a lot of campaigning during disasters similar to Sandy. Obama did and has spent time on Both his campaign and has addressed issues regarding sandy. He has made comments and taken action on the power outages. However really how much can he do? I mean lets face it. He can't deal with insurance and power companies and all the other stuff involved. Is he meant to sit and stop and look like he is doing nothing or grieve with the families?

Honestly I don't think it matters. He can't directly help the people he can only oversee things. He had done a bit of both from what I can tell over the last few days.

Also OP, did you have to make everything in such a massive size. It really is annoying.

Perfectly said, can't get any better than these two responses.

But in my opinion I think he did a good job, its not like he has to drop everything he's doing and go help, he took the matters well into his own hands.

Neptune
November 4th, 2012, 08:25 PM
He did what he could and is still doing what he can even though he is campaigning. The Presidency follows the President. His planes are a flying white house. He can still take care of anything that needs to be taken care of and campaign at the same time. Although, he could have continued visiting and doing all of that and he would done a lot of campaigning that way. He looks ‘’presidential’’ and people love leaders.

justinglives
November 4th, 2012, 08:37 PM
Politicians could not possibly give less of a flying f*&k into a rats ass about what anyone thinks of them as long as they get their obnoxious asses elected. They treat the public like trained Rhesus monkeys that only have enough of a brain to swat at the poll levers by name recognition like the monkey swats at a platter to receive a small morsel of food.
Its disgusting how many people vote with NO idea of the history or platform of the candidates.
Oooohhhhhhhh. He (or she) has more signs, and more commercials so they MUST be better.....
The goal is to get elected and THEN they do whatever they please anyway.
AND the Eĺectoral College can overturn popular vote anyway!

SPARE ME !!!!

Thunderstorm
November 5th, 2012, 12:57 PM
I think no one can devote ALL their time to recovery efforts. We can't just completely forget about the election...but most people up here have anyways. But I think that the President did a fine job of handling the situation. Every few days, or I think it might be every week, for the next few weeks, Obama will deliver a recovery efforts update speech. he's handling it very well, and it is definitely boosting his popularity. I live here, I can tell it is because more people are talking about the federal governement, and in a good way. The republicans have had a habit of ignoring natural disasters and romney even said he'd cut funding to FEM, that is not what residents here want to here. A lot of the coastal states in the Northeast and Mid-Atlantic like NY, NJ, VA were already Obama's, this just helps him more.