I could Use Some Help Here!

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

I really need some help here. I am going to have a debate with youtubes "VenomFangX", and I would like some help. Feel free to move this to a diff. section, If this is the wrong section. But, anyway, here are VenomFangX's creationist videos if you arent familiar with them.
Satan Invented Evolution part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGrvp-8oDok&feature=PlayList&p=32DDBBAC452DBD1A&index=0)
Satan Invented Evolution part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VySC0rJjCnM&feature=PlayList&p=32DDBBAC452DBD1A&index=1)
Satan Invented Evolution part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WSYKngn1Rng&feature=PlayList&p=32DDBBAC452DBD1A&index=2)
Satan Invented Evolution Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w6p8DAnj5dQ&feature=PlayList&p=32DDBBAC452DBD1A&index=3)
Satan Invented Evolution Part 5 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hKa77qb45c4&feature=PlayList&p=32DDBBAC452DBD1A&index=4)
Satan Invented Evolution Part 6 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Taftv6yrd_Y&feature=PlayList&p=32DDBBAC452DBD1A&index=5)
There are those, now here is the opposing Athiest view, which I am arguing for. BTW, The AmazingAthiest, the one who made the rebuttal videos, uses excessive swearing, so, dont watch if you cant handle a few curse words.
VenomFangX Is A Stupid Creationist Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAFOdKjJETg&feature=PlayList&p=0D8457B9C8FAA357&index=1)
VenomFangX Is A Stupid Creationist Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7z9h3kiq_AI&feature=PlayList&p=0D8457B9C8FAA357&index=2)
VenomFangX Is A Stupid Creationist Part 3 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceZO0V341Ew&feature=PlayList&p=0D8457B9C8FAA357&index=3)
VenomFangX Is A Stupid Creationist Part 4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RuhvLHVq9QY&feature=PlayList&p=0D8457B9C8FAA357&index=44)
That is as far as the rebuttals go. Can I get some help for my debate against the Creationist Please? Thank You All Very Much!

[byee]

Well, Doc, I might be able to help, but after watching just a few minutes of the first vid, i gotta ask you why you want to do this and what you hope to accomplish?

Without opining on the issue they're 'debating', I doubt you'll make much head way there. The creationist guy is damaged goods, he has sadly mistaken his own sense of self righteousness with true Righteousness, a common failing in those who blindly follow the beliefs of others out of fear and insecurity, rather than a True understanding and accpetance of the principles being espoused. Sadly, he's not alone.

Sometimes I feel that the best thing one can do with such misguided individuals is just ignore them. That way, they are denied the platform from which to spew forth with their unenlightened views of humanity. However, I also know that sometimes it's just too irrestible to not take your best shot, if only to stand up for the forces of Good. Personally, though, i gotta say this is one of those situations I'd walk away from, there's not much hope of exchanging ideas and there's even less hope of his ability to understand and appreciate them. His goal is the imposition of how he understands the world, not an open minded exchange of ideas. Not much that's constructive can happen in those situations.

Still, if you want some help, let me know first if this is a live debate, or if you guys just send things to eachother and respond that way.

Personally, i think it would be less painful to just eat your own liver. Without the benefit of the Chianti.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

Well, I already debated him, and you are right. It was rather sad actually... lol Apparently, he gets ALL of his video material from KENT HOVIND!?!!?!?!?! So, Its pretty obvious he couldnt have won under any circumstances:D

[dushanbe4]

You know, I'm shocked this thread isn't locked for absolute waste of internet space.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

No need to be rude. Keep comments like that to yourself please, they serve no constructive purpose.

[Maverick]

You know, I'm shocked this thread isn't locked for absolute waste of internet space.If you have a problem with a thread, report it or don't post in it. Rude posts like that are not necessary.

[Attax]

lol maybe if we did not have biasdness we could see the truth, i personally am a creationist but hey... it is a biased opinion

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

Thank you for saying that Attax. Unless you have no side or previous conceptions of the other side, you are biased. I am biased, you are, we all are.:)

[Maverick]

Just because you decide on a view point doesn't mean you're biased. It's how opened minded you are to the other view point and taking it to consideration.

[Underground_Network]

You are only biased if you choose to view one thing as superior and another as inferior (from an opinion standpoint). If you choose to view something as superior, but not view the other thing as inferior, you are not biased; you could also be considered unbiased if you view another thing as inferior, but provide facts to back up why you believe it to be inferior, and if the only reasons you view it as inferior are proven facts. If I say I like the color blue, that is not being biased. Thus, I can say I like evolution, and not be conisdered biased. Although I am biased towards creationists, so I can't truthfully say that, but some people can. Whisper made a really good post in Creationism vs. Evolution thread if you want to have a strong argument for evolution btw.

[helloVT]

I watched 3 mins worth of venomfangs video and he IS a stupid creationist.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

Thanks for that:P

[One_Chance]

I sent him a message and asked him why he mocks other peoples beliefs and ways of life and he said... "
Why dont you respect anyones beliefs? -you

Let's look at what Jesus said concerning other beliefs

Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life, but whoever rejects the Son will not see life, for God's wrath remains on him. (John 3:36)"
I think its funny becuase he usually says "lets take a look at..." in his videos :P. and yes, he is a stupid creationist