Is there more Black Racism in the modern US then white racism? (discuss)

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

Here goes! I have got the impression here in the US, that most white racism has been quashed. All thats left is small groups of KKK and Skinheads, and nobody really pays attention to them anyway. There are no all-white tv stations, and everyone is basically equal. So, here comes my question. Is black against white racism becoming a common, acceptable thing? If a white student said something racist in a school, there would be serious consequences, and they would be labeled a racist piece of sh*t. But everyday, in the classroom, in music, and out on the streets I hear blacks making comments that are just as racist as ni**er. There is all-black programming, and all-black radio stations. Such things are unheard of in the white community, and they would quickly be taken down, and labeled racist. This really bothers me, and I feel that for true equality to come to the United States, both sides, Black & White, should either be allowed to be as racist as they want, or not at all. What are everyones thoughts on this?

[Maverick]

I think racism in itself is becoming more of an unacceptable thing not becoming more acceptable. Racism isn't as big of a problem when it was years ago and I see it decreasing.

I don't think racism between "black against whites" isn't becoming acceptable by the general population. It is only acceptable with those with the same view point obviously but those numbers aren't that big.

About the double standard thing. Yes, some black people do use it and it is unacceptable if whites use it. Those words in question shouldn't be used by whites nor blacks but it is anyway. I don't see what's to be gained if white people could say it other than using a word that can be offensive and hurtful to others. So I really don't care if they "can use it" but people with lighter skin "can't" because it's not really a word to be proud of using.

Now to the black programming, stations, and programs. Yes they do exist but they were originally created because blacks and whites couldn't mix so they created their own. Now they continue to exist and be created but I don't see them as racist unless they supported opposition to people with lighter skin.

The main reason why you see more themes and issues based on race with black people than white people because sociologically speaking, minorities are more than likely to view issues based on race and inequality than whites. Whites are more than likely to view the world as from success, personal responsibility, and that everyone has an equal chance at life. I learned that in my sociology class this year. I see this truth with my family. In my mom side there are members of black and Mexican descent that are lower middle class and a lot of them have that viewpoint of race and inequalities... and when I visit my dad's side which are primarily white they view the world like I said as equality, personal responsibility, and success.

It's just different group have different perspectives on society and life but I think that as time goes on race will continue to become of less importance to others and more people will start looking at people as people, not by the tone of their skin. Of course not everyone in this group thinks that way but I'm just generalizing.

Historically speaking the issue of racism and black civil rights didn't happen all that long ago so in some ways we're still moving on from that. As time goes on I think race will become of less importance and pretty much reduce a lot of racial tension that still exists.

I've lived in 3 states all over the country and race in high school really hasn't been much of an issue and I think it's bound to improve.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

Now to the black programming, stations, and programs. Yes they do exist but they were originally created because blacks and whites couldn't mix so they created their own. Now they continue to exist and be created but I don't see them as racist unless they supported opposition to people with lighter skin.


I agree with you on most of that, except the above quote. I have a very clear picture in my mind of what would happen to an all-white TV station. White programming for whites. There would be a huge uproar, Jesse jackson would make speeches, there would be anti-racist marches, and the station would quickly be shut down. Is that a biased view from my part? Or is that a somewhat clear picture of what would or would most likely happen in todays society?

[Maverick]

White programming? Well there is Fuse TV where the music is mostly dedicated to rock, alternative, punk, hardcore, emo, and indie music. Are there many black rock stars? Yeah I don't think so. There's also CMT TV that's dedicated to country music that is dominated by whites.

There's also non-black channels that are based off culture that's allowed like many are Spanish language music channels that embraces Latin American culture.

Sure there could be a German, Irish, Canadian, Scottish, or any other culture that's predominately white but no one is interested and in order for a channel to survive there needs to be viewers and there isn't a demand for such a channel.

And from my understanding BET played Eminem, a white rapper on their channel because he may not have fit in to the typical race audience he did fit in by having the talents and being able to perform what is mostly done by black people.

[theonetheycallbob]

Well racism is most certainly not on the out go. Every day there are racial attacks. And every day one more person becomes racist. The only difference between modern days and the "olden days" is that back when it was ok to be racist and now a days it is more frowned upon.

[northskater110]

Racism is dying down. but there is still racism towards blacks, like the KKK group in the southern states?even up here sometimes.

There is racism towards other cultures too. Asians are being thought of the nerdy guy that invented nintendo or something like that. Mexicans are defined as "beaners", and thought of as having jumped the border. Lots of people think Canadians suck, which is based on no past things they have done to us. Racism is wide spread, so dont just limit to the two colors, black and white, when there are hundreds of colors inbetween

[Underground_Network]

Racism is not dying, people are just becoming equally racist. But I have a serious question, why are blacks allowed to call each other the n* word, and whites/etc. not allowed to call them the n* word? And I still believe that being racist towards blacks is the most prominent racism in the U.S., but the poor Mexicans and those of Middle East origin are starting to be looked at funny too. Whites don't react to racism the way some other cultures/races do. At my school... You say cracker, beaner; you call someone of Middle Eastern origin a terrorist, you say ginger,ect.. There is no punishment... Now if you say the N word (now here's a huge hint to where I live, not the exact state, but definitely a good idea), you could get suspended indefinitely as the word is illegal (in a sense) in my state (in other words you could get a lot more than a suspension for saying the N word). Anyways... my question is.. if that word is now illegal (in the sense that you better not use it when any cops are around), why don't they make other racist words illegal? And is there truly as bad a word as the N word? Anyways... whites still get away with hate crime... while blacks are targeted every fucking day as both victims and suspects.

[serial-thrilla]

saying the n word is not illegal, no police officer could arrest you for simply saying it, unless you were harassing a black person saying it repeatedly to them.

[Underground_Network]

saying the n word is not illegal, no police officer could arrest you for simply saying it, unless you were harassing a black person saying it repeatedly to them.

PROOF THAT IT IS TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL NEAR WHERE I LIVE (NOT THE SAME STATE):
As NYC passes a symbolic ban on the 'n-word,' teens debate if it's ever ok to use it. On March 1, 2007, the New York City Council passed a symbolic resolution calling for a moratorium on the use of the 'n-word." The n-word has a controversial history. Once used as derogatory speech directed at slaves, and as an epithet used to intimidate individuals during the Civil Rights era, it has since been transformed into contemporary slang.

The resolution was drafted by Queens Councilman Leroy Comrie, a five-year veteran of City Council and the Deputy Majority Leader. He told youth journalists from Children's PressLine in a phone interview that the ban wasn't an attempt to limit people's expression but, "We want people to present themselves in a better light, because in this world, it's your presentation that affects how you're treated."

Comrie blamed "the artistic community" for making the word popular in order to "make money." He went on to say, "If you use an objectionable word as an exclamation point, or try to reformat it as a friendship word, it only shows that you're not working to better yourself or to understand the world around you, and you're not respecting the sensibilities of other people."

BANNED = TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL, AND DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A NEW JERSEY TOWN THAT FINES ANYONE WHO SWEARS IN PUBLIC?

[Sugaree]

Well the way I look at racism is basically a strugle for power. I see it as an arms race other than just pure hatered of eachother. but I live in a mainly white community in Xenia, Ohio. Now granted I do see African American people but it's very rare if you od here. But the thing I hate most and this is true is how they always blame African Americans for stealing and commiting crimes that they more than likely didn't do. Plus you have to look at what this does to younger children. What if their mom and dad are racist? You have to put a look on alot of people of how it all affects them. Look at the gangs in the US. you have Crips and Bloods and alot more. And it has power over many people especially tennagers. Just yesterday I was watching my local news when a story came up with gang violence going on in a school bus. One of the them was shouting "Northside bitch!" the other "Southside Ni**er!" It's awful of what affects it has on people.

[serial-thrilla]

PROOF THAT IT IS TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL NEAR WHERE I LIVE (NOT THE SAME STATE):
As NYC passes a symbolic ban on the 'n-word,' teens debate if it's ever ok to use it. On March 1, 2007, the New York City Council passed a symbolic resolution calling for a moratorium on the use of the 'n-word." The n-word has a controversial history. Once used as derogatory speech directed at slaves, and as an epithet used to intimidate individuals during the Civil Rights era, it has since been transformed into contemporary slang.

The resolution was drafted by Queens Councilman Leroy Comrie, a five-year veteran of City Council and the Deputy Majority Leader. He told youth journalists from Children's PressLine in a phone interview that the ban wasn't an attempt to limit people's expression but, "We want people to present themselves in a better light, because in this world, it's your presentation that affects how you're treated."

Comrie blamed "the artistic community" for making the word popular in order to "make money." He went on to say, "If you use an objectionable word as an exclamation point, or try to reformat it as a friendship word, it only shows that you're not working to better yourself or to understand the world around you, and you're not respecting the sensibilities of other people."

BANNED = TECHNICALLY ILLEGAL, AND DID YOU KNOW THAT THERE IS A NEW JERSEY TOWN THAT FINES ANYONE WHO SWEARS IN PUBLIC? we'll thats just rediculas, swearing or using the n word should not be a crime. What ever happened to free speech?

[Glasgow]

Yeah, black racism is just as serious as white. People just automatically think that hating a black person is racist, and dont even concider black people hating whites racist. It happens all the time, black people hate whites just as whites hate black (im talking about the racists, not in general)

So yeah i dunno :P I sorta forget what this thread was about

[Serenity]

People just automatically think that hating a black person is racist, and dont even concider black people hating whites racist.

Yes, as a matter of fact, they do. The entire world is actually not made up of stupid, narrow-minded people, contrary to popular belief.

[Sugaree]

well yes that is true. But look at it this way that people have their own teachings. But thinking when you see a black guy you think "he hates white people" I don't think that. I was taught that you don't tell people to do what you do. When I see a Mexican or African American I think "Well his views don't affect me and I shouldn't let my views affect him and not let his views make me believe what he believes"

[One_Chance]

I think that people focus more on black racism than white racism. thats just my opinion. But im not really bothered when people are racist towards my colour.

[dem.re.cmd.exe]

Wouldn't equality be boring? Watch "Invasion of the Body Snatchers". I admit it is slightly racist, but can't a white person purchase the "all-black" channel? Money is money. So it doesn't limit the viewers to being only black, but it it meant for blacks (sorry if you prefer african-american or some other term, please tell me and I'll change all this.) So here:

dirtbike channel, it's meant for dirtbikers, I like interior design (not that there's anything worng with it, but really I don't lol), I have as much access as a real dirtbiker, but I HATE dirtbikes. Catchin' my drift? Now as for an all white (also if you prefer another term as a substitute for "white" tell me and I'll change is ASAP) channel being tagged as racist, no it wouldn't. Black people may watch it freely (not counting buying the channel that is) with no repreccussions. It isn't including one race in the staff, but neither is the other races channel so... That's equality in my mind. Each race has it's individuality, but how do you mix individuality with equality? You can't. (unless they both have they're own TV channel!!) Unless I'm missing something... That is another debate though.

[The Batman]

Racism is something that i strongly disagree with and since we have the white side of view (no offense rtas' vadumee) lets get a black view
Racism is alive but is dying out at my school i've heard white students call each other and black students ni**a and the same with the black students so the main people who are racist are our parents and grandparents generation and they're not to long for this world.
Another thing is there are alot of all white programming around and a few black programming but it doesn't stop the other race from tuning in they like it just as much if not more than the race it was primarily intended for BET shows diverse programming ranging from gospel to rap and from sitcoms to prank shows which is the almost exact same thing MTV, VH1, and CMT is doing all BET is doing is giving black actors a better chance to get on TV.
Lets get back to school for a moment. The reason more white kids get in trouble for making racial statements than black kids is because noone reports what the black kids say what the black kids say is not something acknowledge as a nationwide "no" word and the everyone knows why we don't like the N-Word.
Another thing is not everything all white is labled racist right there is saying that black people are itching to find racism any where (excluding Rev. Al Sharpton who just might be) its like we have nothing better to do than worry about being offended.
Finally i want to say that the only way we can grow is if we look at our mistakes in the past and learn from them racism was a mistake on both sides we as black people should not have created intentionaly offensive words or done anything wrong fueled by hate of a race and the same goes for the white population. Two wrongs don't make a right. Oh yea and to answer your question to me its even

[Mannequin]

I have never seen a black person getting in trouble for making rascist comments towards a white person. Blacks are only pitied in a the fight of races. Whites are obviously surperior to minoritiy groups in today's culture because so few blacks do anything that contributes to helping our society. They are still suffering from mass poverty and bad influences/education. Black racism is taken so much more seriously b/c whites are indeed surperior at this point in time. I don't mean any of this in a racist way....

[Whisper]

All I know
Is this white boy
CAN dance

[dem.re.cmd.exe]

....wtf did you need to do that for?

[Maverick]

....wtf did you need to do that for?
Just drop it and move on.

[[[chickaroo92]]]

All I know
Is this white boy
CAN dance
Stick to the topic, man...haha :-)

...Anyway, I think that there's more black racism, in the US. C'mon people, black racism originated in the states, so of course there would be more there then anywhere else, and more then White racism...but that's just my opinion.

[Underground_Network]

^^ Black racism definitely did not originate in the states. It seriously depends on your definition of black racism, in Africa there is tons of prejudice, blacks are racist towards blacks, and this leads to full-out wars. At least we don't have wars based on racism here in the states. And slavery existed way before the United States was colonized. In all reality, nothing has originated in "the states", we have stolen all of our ideas from other cultures/countries. And trust me, racism is just another stolen idea/concept.

[need_of_help]

I have never seen a black person getting in trouble for making rascist comments towards a white person. Blacks are only pitied in a the fight of races. Whites are obviously surperior to minoritiy groups in today's culture because so few blacks do anything that contributes to helping our society. They are still suffering from mass poverty and bad influences/education. Black racism is taken so much more seriously b/c whites are indeed surperior at this point in time. I don't mean any of this in a racist way....

NO RACE IS SUPERIOR black or white i get what your saying but that could cause alot of arguments and fighting

[A.J.]

There is always going to be racism, but its a problem for both blacks and whites. SOME whites treat black people worse than other whites, but some blacks do that as well. Not all people are racists.