Glasgow schoolboy killed in gym class

[Apollo.]

What do you guys think of this? Basically the boy was messing about in gym class and was killed because of an accident. The link to the story is here: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-20080529 I personally think it is disgusting and the guy that attacked this boy should be charged for murder. Although he may not of intended to kill him, he definitely meant to harm the boy, therefore he is responsible for his actions. This story really gets to me because the school it happened at is about 20 minutes away from my house.

[UnknownError]

Disgusting really, I live about 20 mins from there aswell and tbh violence is seen as too normal in our schools. People love fights, there is one almost everyday at lunch in my school. And then shit like this happens and everyone just kinda pretends that it doesn't.

[Apollo.]

Disgusting really, I live about 20 mins from there aswell and tbh violence is seen as too normal in our schools. People love fights, there is one almost everyday at lunch in my school. And then shit like this happens and everyone just kinda pretends that it doesn't.

Yeah I know what you mean, there was constantly fights at my school but nobody cared. Maybe it will take something like this for them to take some action. Instead of chanting fight people might actually stand up for the victim from now on.

[Mirage]

This is so terrible. I always worry every time somebody jokingly hits me in case something like this were to occur.

[Lost in the Echo]

Damn that's sad, this could've easily been avoided. All the boy did was ACCIDENTALLY hit the other guy with a fucking ball, he didn't have to kill him for it, even though he didn't mean to kill him, he still shouldn't have hit him in the face 5 times over such petty little shit, the guy who was hit by the ball shouldn't have gotten violent with the other kid at all, the boy didn't mean to hit him with the ball.

I think the boy who committed this crime should be charged with murder, not life in prison but at least like 10 years of juvie/prison.

I can't believe somebody got killed because he hit someone else with a ball, that's fucking bullshit, it should've never happened.

[ArsenicCatNip]

I'm sure he didn't mean to kill him, he was probably unaware the temple was a very weak spot of the head. I mean no one would over something as little as that(At least I'd like to believe that), but that doesn't justify what he did, I'm not sure how charges work in Scotland but at the very least he should be trialled in court for murder..

[Foamy]

That is retarded. Now he should plea "I'm so sorry it was an accident" like the kid was when getting beat up. Bullllshit.

[TheBigUnit]

I wanna personally beat up this kid myself....

[TigerBoy]

Yeah I read this earlier, tragic.

I'm sure he didn't mean to kill him, he was probably unaware the temple was a very weak spot of the head. I mean no one would over something as little as that(At least I'd like to believe that), but that doesn't justify what he did,

Yeah I totally agree with that. People have been killed with single punch. As far as I understand it the jury would have to be convinced that he intended to kill the guy for it to be treated as 'murder', otherwise it would be manslaughter.

He clearly has some issues, so I hope he gets some help for that, whatever sentence he gets. Its inevitable he'll be back out in society one day and my concern is keeping society safe from people like this: help fix his malfunction so he doesn't re-offend or keep him out of society.

[ArsenicCatNip]

Yeah I read this earlier, tragic.



Yeah I totally agree with that. People have been killed with single punch. As far as I understand it the jury would have to be convinced that he intended to kill the guy for it to be treated as 'murder', otherwise it would be manslaughter.

He clearly has some issues, so I hope he gets some help for that, whatever sentence he gets. Its inevitable he'll be back out in society one day and my concern is keeping society safe from people like this: help fix his malfunction so he doesn't re-offend or keep him out of society.

He more than likely does. I think it's also combined with a very ignorant belief that our actions don't have drastic consequences on others or to ourselves, for instance death. A lot of people don't think they'll die one day or others will(I'm not saying people actually think they're immortal, but things like this obviously show they don't take consider that his and others' life is the only one they have. That's it)

[Apollo.]

Yeah I read this earlier, tragic.



Yeah I totally agree with that. People have been killed with single punch. As far as I understand it the jury would have to be convinced that he intended to kill the guy for it to be treated as 'murder', otherwise it would be manslaughter.

He clearly has some issues, so I hope he gets some help for that, whatever sentence he gets. Its inevitable he'll be back out in society one day and my concern is keeping society safe from people like this: help fix his malfunction so he doesn't re-offend or keep him out of society.

If he can attack someone for throwing a ball though surely he should be seen as a danger to society and be charged with more than manslaughter. Sadly though I know you are right, he will get off lightly in my opinion. Even if it is a mental illness or personality disorder attacking someone should have serious consequences. I always think of the family even if he didn't die can you imagine seeing your brother in pain and hurt over a simple mistake?

Personally if I punched someone five times in the face I would be expecting to do some serious damage. I'm no expert on law but can it not depend on the scenario the crime occurred in? I personally think if you hit someone you meant to hurt them seriously!

[FreeFall]

Ha."It was an accident weeeeh! I didn't meant to violently punch him in the head 5 times in a row as he said it was an accident many times! He just accidentally hit me with a spongeball! Weeeh"

The kid's not right, he's unbalanced. That kid's a killer no matter how you look at it.
This may be manslaughter, but that boy would've done much worse to another if all it took for him to repeatedly punch a defenseless boy for something so meaningless, 5 fucking times. If a SPONGEBALL, unless those are made of rocks over there, was all it took for him to flip his "quiet, well-behaved, good mannered" demeanor, and just viciously assault his peer, you can imagine how much worse this could have been. And that's sickening to say. Yea the kid needs help but I don't care if the brat gets it for himself, they need to protect their society, and he's a threat.

[Mortal Coil]

The poor family, I feel so sorry for them.

[nice]

I think he may have had anger issues if he would try to fight him over something as stupid as an accident like that. But it's not as uncommon as you guys think for that kind of stuff to happen. The other day at my school this boy thought this other kid threw paper at him and was ready to fight him over something as stupid as that and the same thing that happened in this story easily could have happened at my school.

As for this kid in this story I believe he should be in prison for at least 10 years and have to take anger management classes because it was his unnecessary actions that caused an unnecessary death and grieving.

[TigerBoy]

Personally if I punched someone five times in the face I would be expecting to do some serious damage. I'm no expert on law but can it not depend on the scenario the crime occurred in? I personally think if you hit someone you meant to hurt them seriously!

Totally - there are degrees of the offence of manslaughter. The top one is "voluntary manslaughter" which could apply I believe, as it covers the case where there is intent to cause serious bodily harm (but not death), which to me 5 punches sounds like it is.

[Then_Boom]

That's awful, disgusting even. The worst thing, is that he didn't even deserve it. He sounds like a timid lad that wouldn't harm anyone intentionally. Although the accused didn't intentionally kill the lad, he still intended to harm him. I hope he gets sent to a young person's institute or something.. Justice will prevail.

[Manjusri]

The killer entered the gym as Euan picked up the ball and threw it at a friend.

Man, i love the way news reporters word things.