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Julieen
October 18th, 2012, 01:30 PM
Hi. First of all I'm a 15 and I'm a Pentecostal girl. I don't know where to write this but I have to let it out. I've tried to ask this on religion forums but most of the answers I get is "your parents are right". I haven't always been very faithfull and never really understood concept of modesty, besides I've always been more of a tomboy, prefering shorts and pants, opposite to my mom who was wearing long skirts since I remember. When I was little my mom was always dressing me up in skirts and dresses to my displeasure, but when I was like 10, I objected so hard that my mom let go and since then there were only pants in my closet. Of course I praise Jesus but the church I'd been attending most of my life didn't have many standards, but recently, my family and I changed to a different UPC church where it's a custom that every lady wears long skirt. My mom asked me to at least wear one to church. So I got a floor length denim 'church skirt' which looks like this
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It had a split in the back but mom sew it down because it was inappriopate as a result the skirt became quite hard to walk in, but it didn't bother me because I was changing back to pants after church. Later though mom insisted that I wear long flowy skirts as an everyday outfit. We had some fight about that and after a while I thought something like "You want me in a skirt? You will have it". First I agreed wearing long skirts but secretly took a scissors and shortened one of them to mini length, I was wearing it under the long one and was changing everytime was away from home. And well there was this incident during early summer when I drank some alcohol with boys but police patrol checked us and parents had to pick me up and well there I was - drunk and 'not really modest'. I was grounded for two weeks and parents said it's about time I start dress and behave like a good modest girl and from this moment only modest clothes for me, at that moment only my denim maxi fitted the standard. I didn't object being restricted to mincing steps for two weeks because I knew I deserved a punishment. Hovewer after two weeks when I wanted to go back to my normal clothes I found out that all my trousers are gone and instead of them there were only maxi denim skirts! My parents said that from now I have to wear them until I live under their roof. So now I'm stuck in floor length denim skirts and neither of them is easy to walk in. Before I was always in a hurry, big strides got me everywhere faster, but not enymore, even though skirts are in shape of A, my stride in them isn't nearly as big as it used to be. Many simple activities like running, climbing or riding a bike became hard or impossible, I can only walk at slow pace with constant 'whoot whoot' sound as my legs keep hitting the skirt material and it's very annoying. My mom keeps saying that I need to behave like a good modest lady and walking with ladylike steps is one of those things as well as sitting with knees together instead cross-legged, so the skirt only forces a good behavior out of me. When the school started I keep getting all the attention since most girls who wear skirts wear them at mini length and here I am walking in a bag. Huge restricting denim bag. My parents know some of the teachers (at least that's what they told me) and asked them to keep an eye for me. If I'm caught wearing something different or hitching up the skirt too much to walk faster I'll be grounded again. To make matters worse the rest of my family praise me that I finally started to look like a daughter of Christ. I know I've made a mistake but I think this too much. I don't know what to do or say to make it like it was before.

PinkFloyd
October 18th, 2012, 01:52 PM
Okay your parents are not right. You do have a say about what you wear. At least by American standards you can say that the clothes make you uncomfortable and them refusing to let you wear something else is abusive. Your best bet is to talk to a social worker at your school about this. I don't know anything about girls clothes because I'm you know... a guy but that sounds really bad.

best of luck - Rob

FreeFall
October 18th, 2012, 02:24 PM
You say religion, I say cult.

You've to dress certain way? Will your God hate you and smite you to death if you don't? Can you leave the religion if you don't accept all of the criteria set? Go to another if you must.

Your mom needs to get her head out of her ass. It's not the 1940's, if she likes skirts you tell her that she can wear them. Does the comments from the rest of your family matter? You're not going to let that force you against your will right?

I agree with Rob.

While it is their house, and their rules, that doesn't mean they've to pretty much abuse you. By you fearing that the second your teach see your ankle you're going to be grounded, I'm seeing mental abuse. By them saying now you look like a daughter of Christ, simply because of a skirt because that's apparently a definition, I'm seeing maybe emotional abuse. Using your religion against you.

Shame on you for having done what you did to get caught, you totally asked for it. But your parents have gone overboard.

Wisconsin
October 18th, 2012, 09:22 PM
I don't know much about the pentecostal religion but I know a little and I get the whole skirt thing but the length of the skirt is supposed to get shorter as you grow older, and your parents aren't suppoesed to stop you from being comfortable. I suggest you try talking to them but start if gets out of hand (raised voices, etc.) Then start over. Just say that the long skirts aren't comfortable and it slows you down. Try and compromise on the length of your skirt so ur all happy. Sorry if this doesn't help but I know I'm not rlly an expert on pentecostals...

Castle of Glass
October 18th, 2012, 11:52 PM
with your description on your parents, i am going with they believe in this quote.
Deuteronomy 22:5
“A woman shall not wear a man's garment, nor shall a man put on a woman's cloak, for whoever does these things is an abomination to the Lord your God."
While i am a christian, not Pentecostal but evangelic lutherian, most of us don't care about the cloths we wear, as long as we wear something modest in church. but changing your entire wardrobe over on incident, that is just abuse. now if you have read the bible, and guessing your parents have tell them this:
"If the son therefore shall make you free, you shall be free indeed."
John 8:36
tell them that God has given you the freedom to make your own choices as freedom includes choice of clothing. also add that every time you go to church you will clean yourself from sins during the Communion, including the part about clothing. and as the communion happens every week, they should have nothing to worry about.

TigerBoy
October 19th, 2012, 04:28 AM
To me this sounds like emotional abuse and abuse of your human rights and civil rights.

I read a fiction book that covered this, so I can't claim this is 100% accurate advice but worth looking into. It stated that under US bill of rights your parents cannot force you to worship, and they cannot force you to go to a particular church or follow a particular religion.

That may or may not help you escape this cult, but I agree with advice above: you should get social services involved

Jean Poutine
October 22nd, 2012, 12:49 PM
To me this sounds like emotional abuse and abuse of your human rights and civil rights.

I read a fiction book that covered this, so I can't claim this is 100% accurate advice but worth looking into. It stated that under US bill of rights your parents cannot force you to worship, and they cannot force you to go to a particular church or follow a particular religion.

That may or may not help you escape this cult, but I agree with advice above: you should get social services involved

The Bill of Rights is only appliable to the government/governee relationship, and not to the activities between two private citizens. Such is also the case with the Canadian equivalent (which BTW is much better). The only "bill of rights" law I know of that applies to activities between private citizens is the Quebec Charter.

Castle of Glass
October 22nd, 2012, 04:01 PM
The Bill of Rights is only appliable to the government/governee relationship, and not to the activities between two private citizens. Such is also the case with the Canadian equivalent (which BTW is much better). The only "bill of rights" law I know of that applies to activities between private citizens is the Quebec Charter.
i believe he is talking about the US Bill of Rights. the 1st Amendment is "Freedom of Speech, Religion, Press, and the right to gather peacefully" if i remember it correctly, but along those lines. so yea, governments or other people cannot force you into a religion.

TigerBoy
October 22nd, 2012, 04:10 PM
i believe he is talking about the US Bill of Rights. the 1st Amendment is "Freedom of Speech, Religion, Press, and the right to gather peacefully" if i remember it correctly, but along those lines. so yea, governments or other people cannot force you into a religion.

To be fair I was also under the impression that does only apply to governnment bodies myself, so I may well have misremembered the 'bill of rights bit'. So I suppose the question is, is there other legal protection for a child whose views differ from their parents?

Castle of Glass
October 22nd, 2012, 04:17 PM
To be fair I was also under the impression that does only apply to governnment bodies myself, so I may well have misremembered the 'bill of rights bit'. So I suppose the question is, is there other legal protection for a child whose views differ from their parents?

well, depending on were you live, like i most of the US, parents cannot force you into a religion, like i have a friend who is an atheist and her parents are Catholics. but normally if there is a law about protection for a child with different views, it only becomes active when the child turns 16-21. normally it is between 16 and 21, just depends on the region, because as far as i know there is no federal law on it, so if there is one it is state or city level law.

Jean Poutine
October 22nd, 2012, 05:39 PM
i believe he is talking about the US Bill of Rights. the 1st Amendment is "Freedom of Speech, Religion, Press, and the right to gather peacefully" if i remember it correctly, but along those lines. so yea, governments or other people cannot force you into a religion.

Yep, the US Bill of Rights applies only to the government in its relationship with provate citizens. You cannot invoke the BoR against another person in a lawsuit, ex. A is stifling my freedom of expression because he is talking over me all the time.

So the BoR is useless in this situation since her parents are no government.

To be fair I was also under the impression that does only apply to governnment bodies myself, so I may well have misremembered the 'bill of rights bit'. So I suppose the question is, is there other legal protection for a child whose views differ from their parents?

You had the right impression.

I am not an American law specialist but in the courtroom, that would probably fall under civil litigation. She would have to prove what her parents did, that she was psychologically harmed by it to a significant degree and the causal link between the two. But let's be honest for a second and consider that nobody sues his/her parents for a variety of reasons, so child support or services since if it's anything like in Canada, these organizations have standing to sue on her behalf in front of a family court should it be needed.