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redcar
September 14th, 2007, 04:51 PM
Ok I don't think this case is very widely known on the other side of Atlantic, but basically she was a lovely little girl who went missing on 3rd May 2007 in Portugal and following one of the largest media campaigns and searches to find her began all over Europe instigated by her parents.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann

There is a Wikipedia article on it if anyones interested.

But now after 4 months she hasn't been found (alive or dead), however the Portugese have now gathered "evidence" and have made her parents suspects.

Now if you know about the case, do you think they, her parents, could have anything to do with her dissapearence? Or are the Portugese grasping at straws after a completly shocking investigation where things should have been done so differently?

Aηdy
September 14th, 2007, 04:58 PM
I'm not entirely sure myself, but my nan said right from the start that she thinks the parents had something to do with it.

redcar
September 14th, 2007, 05:04 PM
Yea it has become very dodgy. Although I think why? I find it hard to believe someone could kill their own child intentially unless they were mentally unstable, not saying it doesnt happen but very rarely. So if it wasnt intentianal why was it covered up if it was an accident?

Its the whole investigation process thats causing dobts. Just looking at it, I think the Portugest police have acted wrong at every point.

Aηdy
September 14th, 2007, 05:06 PM
Yeah the police aren't doing anything like they should, which is probally causing all this fuss about the parents being involved. But it's been a long time now, I certainly don't think they'll find her.

Hauptmann Kauffman
September 14th, 2007, 05:24 PM
Everyone, everywhere has heard of this. CNN has daily reports on it. its CRAZY!!! Frankly, i find it frustrting how ONE missing girl is getting this attentin while the 100's of thousands of other missing children are virtually ignored by the media....

Aηdy
September 14th, 2007, 05:28 PM
Everyone, everywhere has heard of this. CNN has daily reports on it. its CRAZY!!! Frankly, i find it frustrting how ONE missing girl is getting this attentin while the 100's of thousands of other missing children are virtually ignored by the media....

Yeah i was watching this on the news in majorca on BBC World (or whatever it was) but in the UK, something like 200,000 people go missing every year, and yet you only hear of very few on the news, I think that's quite unfair. There has been a website set up for missing people and people have been using youtube to 'advertise' missing people.

Underground_Network
September 15th, 2007, 07:39 AM
Yeah, it is stupid, the only way a missing child gets reported on the news is if there are extremely strange circumstances, or if the family that lost the kid was wealthy or had lost a kid before or something like that. Now back on the actual topic; I haven't heard about this case in quite awhile (and I'm too tired to read the article right now; I just woke up), so from what I recall, I remember my dad and I both thought the parents were the culprits, but it works the same in most European/North American countries, you're innocent until proven guilty.

Sapphire
September 15th, 2007, 10:04 AM
She is dead, there is no chance that child is still alive. I'm not being cold hearted, just realistic. There has been DNA evidence found in the hire car the McCann's hired out 25 days AFTER her disappearance and it is an 88% match to Madeleine. Bits of her hair have been found in that same car along with some evidence that she had ingested a triple doseage of sleeping pills (enough to result in eath)

I don't think they intentionally try to kill her. I think that they wanted a quiet evening without any hassle from their kids who, according to Kate McCann's diary, were a handful. That diary also states that Gerry did very little to help with the kids. Imagine being a doctor with three very lively children of 4 years and under. Your husband does very little to help with them and almost no housework. Not a particularly easy or stress-free life. Put all of this together and you get an idea of how it went.
The family is on holiday. Kate and Gerry are exhausted. They want a peaceful night alone together without the hassle of lively kids bouncing off the walls. So they give all 3 kids a drink with crushed sleeping tablets (one child-size dose each) so they will sleep all night. But the twins decide they do not want their drinks and give them to Madeleine who happily drinks them. Thus leading to a completely accidental and tragic death. But, her parents can't allow this accident to be uncovered because they would lose their two other children and be struck off (both are doctors) so they try to pass it off as an abduction.

*EDIT*
The British police force have been really involved for a while now and the DNA evidence from the hire car was brought to England to be tested.

redcar
September 15th, 2007, 10:14 AM
But the McCann's were under immense media scrutiny after she went missing, how would they be able to move her body into the rental car, which they hired after she went missing. It is questions like this that put doubt in your head.

Sapphire
September 15th, 2007, 10:32 AM
Under the cover of nightfall, perhaps?

Malcolm Tucker
September 15th, 2007, 10:44 AM
I seriously think that it was Kate who did it, If youve noticed-
If your 3 year old daughter was missing, would you even think about CHANGING YOUR EARRINGS AND NECKLACE AND HAIR AND WEAR MATCHING CLOTHES,

just something i noticed

redcar
September 15th, 2007, 10:44 AM
I think it would be very hard to store the body and then move it somewhere else and it still has not been found. And seeing that Portugal is a hot country it would decompose much quicker. And all this with the media watching everything they do.

I think there are a lot of unanswered questions and we probably wont ever get the answers.

Malcolm Tucker
September 15th, 2007, 10:47 AM
I think it would be very hard to store the body and then move it somewhere else and it still has not been found. And seeing that Portugal is a hot country it would decompose much quicker. And all this with the media watching everything they do.

I think there are a lot of unanswered questions and we probably wont ever get the answers.

I agree

Sapphire
September 15th, 2007, 11:05 AM
Kate McCann is too "together". She has even been spotted to even have smirked when doing television interviews. You do not smirk when asking questions about your daughter who has supposedly been abducted months or weeks before. Michael is right, you wouldn't be so meticulous about your appearence either.
I admit that there are unanswered questions concerning what would have been done with her body between that eve and when they got the hire car. But there are possibilities. They could have kept her hidden somewhere after having moved her under the cover of darkness. They are known to have got friendly with a man who owns a yacht so there is a possibility for disposing of the body.

Hauptmann Kauffman
September 15th, 2007, 12:09 PM
I dont see why everyone was so pissed when they brought in the mother for questioning. Something just doesnt seem, right about her...

lucki_scotti
September 15th, 2007, 01:09 PM
I personallybelieve that her parents know more than they are telling, im not gonna blame them for killing their daughter yet, but still i think they are hiding something for the time being.

I also feel really sorry for the parents i mean their daughter dissaperes and their stong evidence shes dies now the authorities are blaming the parents, talk about a bad day.

redcar
September 15th, 2007, 05:38 PM
But wouldnt her being "too together" nearly be a sign she didnt do anything? Like wouldn't it be more likely that she would be having a breakdown if she accidently killed her daughter, riddled with the guilt.

Break the Cage
September 15th, 2007, 06:18 PM
The mother accidently caused maddy to OD on sleeping pills, tried to cover it up.

Hauptmann Kauffman
September 16th, 2007, 12:12 AM
Where did you get that info?

mynameisjane
September 16th, 2007, 12:48 AM
yeah, i think someone would be more nervous and not pulled together and they couldnt think straight if they had something to hide. but she's still probably nervous about being a suspect and it could have been a nervous smirk. doctors probably have a more pulled together way of thinking. my mom's a nurse and she's very unemotional, but she's logical. some people are just not very emotional. i haven't seen enough evidence to think that they did it.

Break the Cage
September 16th, 2007, 05:27 AM
Where did you get that info?
I am Mr. McCann
(or maybe its just my theory... duh)

Underground_Network
September 16th, 2007, 06:40 AM
I am Mr. McCann


Please don't eat me. :P This hasn't turned into much of a debate btw, most people are agreeing they think the parents did it, but I think if the mom did it, it wasn't an accident, or she would be riddled with guilt.