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Fractured Silhouette
October 17th, 2012, 09:02 AM
A 10-year-old girl managed to borrow Makoto Tateno's Hero Heel from a King County Library.

One Travis De Nevers has filed a complaint with the King County Library System (KCLS) after discovering his 10-year-old niece managed to check out a copy of an adults-only yaoi manga.

Described as a "huge anime fan," De Nevers' niece borrowed a number of manga, including Makoto Tateno's Hero Heel. De Nevers realized something was amiss when he noticed the book's "Parental Advisory" sticker. He flicked through the title, only to discover it contained drawings of two garden-variety bishies engaging in "rather violent" sex. The book is quite clearly marked as "yaoi."

For those of you who might be unfamiliar with the term, "yaoi" is used to describe fiction that focuses on male homosexual romance marketed towards the ladies. The genre, which is dominated by female authors, is known for romanticizing aggressive and sometimes non-consensual sex. It's sometimes gets a bit rapey, in other words.

Needless to say, Mr De Nevers was not keen on his pre-teen niece having access to such material, and he outlined his concerns in a letter to Bill Ptacek, director of the KCLS.

How can it be that a young girl can check-out this book? Why would it even be located in a place where children would have easy access to it?

I do not want this to happen again to my niece or other children. I am asking that you review your check-out practices and make the changes necessary to prevent it. Please send me a response detailing your steps to correct this serious situation.

De Nevers' outrage is totally justified, the library staff certainly shouldn't have let his niece check the book out, but in a statement to the B-Town blog, he questions whether such manga should be in the library in the first place.

"What also sickens me is that people are going to the library to read this kind of content?," he said. "An anime comic book section is where people go to read porn? Around kids? There is no good coming from this being in our library."

Now at this point you'd expect the threat of public outrage would push the KCLS to issue an apology, instead the library system - ahem - came out swinging in a statement to ANN.

In keeping with the mission to provide free, open and equal access to ideas and information, KCLS develops its collection to reflect the diversity of the patrons we serve. Materials are selected based on a variety of criteria including, but not limited to, current and anticipated needs and interests of the public and contribution to the breadth of collections. We also expand the collection by responding to requests from patrons, and graphic novels are one of the most requested areas of the collection. When evaluating suggested titles, staff consults industry-related websites, newsletters and blogs. If overall reviews are positive, a title is purchased; conversely, if the consensus is negative, the request is declined.

Although many people associate graphic novels with children and teens, the industry increasingly publishes titles for adults thanks to the popularity of Anime TV shows.
The title checked out, "Hero Heel 2" was catalogued as Adult Non-Fiction. All non-fiction titles, including children's non-fiction, are shelved together. The parental advisory sticker on the cover was adhered to the book by the publisher. KCLS does not apply ratings to its materials but recognizes that certain items in the collection that are popular with some may be considered objectionable by others. For that reason, staff relies on the authority of parents and legal guardians to supervise the reading, viewing or listening use of library materials for their own minor children. KCLS' Parental Responsibility Policy ... states in part, that:

"Parents and guardians are responsible for their children's behavior, safety and welfare while their children are in the library or on library grounds, which includes their children's access to library materials and electronic resources. KCLS strongly recommends that a parent, guardian or other responsible party be present to supervise children ages 12 and younger. KCLS staff is available to assist parents, guardians and their children in the use of the library; however, KCLS staff cannot act "in loco parentis" (in place of a parent) for children in the library."

The Policy also states that

"KCLS will not limit children to the use of books in the children's section of the library, as these materials may not meet the needs and interests of all children. In addition, library staff is not responsible for determining whether materials used by children and teens are "age appropriate."
These policies are not unique to KCLS. They are consistent with public library policies across the United States.

The Comic Book Legal Defense Fund also chimed in with a defense of Manga as a legitimate art form, guy-on-guy love included.

As CBLDF readers are aware, comics, graphic novels, and manga often face challenges from those who think any book with lots of pictures must be for children. That certainly seems to be the case here, as de Nevers expresses surprise that "an anime comic book section is where people go to read porn." While Hero Heel 2 likely doesn't qualify as pornography by a strict definition, it is definitely intended for adults, who make up a large part of any library's patron base. Modern public libraries build their collections with a wide variety of ages, tastes, cultures, and interests in mind. There may be indeed be materials in those collections that some parents do not want their children to access, but the responsibility for setting those boundaries lies with the parents, not the libraries.



http://www.escapistmagazine.com/news/view/120166-10-Year-Old-Borrows-Steamy-Gay-Sex-Manga-From-Local-Library

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rachin2u42
October 17th, 2012, 09:03 AM
lol it is a cartoon :)

Mirage
October 17th, 2012, 09:40 AM
Am I the only one who thinks the library is right? The parent should be monitoring what the child reads, the library isn't responsible for it.

Iron Man
October 17th, 2012, 11:19 AM
...Dafuq did I just read?

Professional Russian
October 17th, 2012, 12:10 PM
...Dafuq did I just read?


To The Bomb Shelter We go.....

Foamy
October 17th, 2012, 01:43 PM
...Dafuq did I just read?
I hear ya skyler I hear ya.

Am I the only one who thinks the library is right? The parent should be monitoring what the child reads, the library isn't responsible for it.

No you're not. Although the library should be on top of this, it is the parents' job to see what their children are reading.

Jupiter
October 17th, 2012, 02:53 PM
er.

this is sad that parents have to "monitor what your kids are reading."

if i were reading my mother better be happy, cuz it's not normally for most kids to read.

MartyG
October 17th, 2012, 05:54 PM
Oh...I don't know....

I pretty much feel that kids "self-level" when it comes to choosing reading materials. If the material is either below or above their l;evel of comprehension...then they will not read it.

No parental management required.

The exception would be pictures/videos/movies. I wouldn't want my little brother or sister seeing stuff that they would not understand or be ready for. It might scare them...or at least confuse them.

So; if this material had images...I can see a parent being upset.

MartyG

FreeFall
October 17th, 2012, 09:25 PM
Just another complaint about how a person doesn't want to do their own guardianship responsibility and would rather blame someone else than slap themselves and monitor better.

So wait, manga porn is bad. But having 50 Shades of Grey floating around the shelves for people to read is totally ok? Is it because there were pictures or...?

Mortal Coil
October 18th, 2012, 08:40 AM
...Dafuq did I just read?
I hear you broface.
if i were reading my mother better be happy, cuz it's not normally for most kids to read.
My parents are the same. They never tried to censor what I read because they basically wanted me to read everything I could find and become "intellectually curious." Too bad for them, I'm too st00p1d.


Now, my own personal opinion of this:
What the hell does the writer think they're doing, using the word "rapey"? That's not even a fucking word and is a trivialization of the violent truth that accompanies the act of rape. Also, I can understand that a library should be allowed to stock whatever books, magazines, comics etc. that they damn well please, but is it really so difficult to separate the "adult" materials from the family-friendly ones?

Okay, I'm out.

Noirtier
October 18th, 2012, 01:16 PM
I think both parties are to blame. If it was in an adults only section, the librarian that checked the little girl out should have noticed what she was checking out and not allowed her to do so. However, parents need to take responsibility on watching what their children check out too--if they don't want their child reading a certain kind of book, then they should be watching them. Because it also isn't the library's job to make sure the parents are happy with the books kids check out--they'd have to keep a list a thousand pages long to accommodate that and it would just be entirely inefficient. Grounds enough to file a complaint against the LIBRARIAN, but not against the library itself.

TigerBoy
October 19th, 2012, 05:38 AM
What the hell does the writer think they're doing, using the word "rapey"? That's not even a fucking word and is a trivialization of the violent truth that accompanies the act of rape.


Agree totally. I also think arguing for the artistic merit is very misleading. Having artistic merit doesn't alter the fact that this genre graphically depicts anal sex with an emphasis on a dominant partner taking -often violently - what they want from a subordinate partner.

I really don't think a 10 year old is going to understand this, or have any experience be able to place this in context, and may form views of sex that cause them problems in their adult life.

I actually think the policy of letting kids go to any section is important in principle: libraries (conservative librarians) have caused anger when they've been known to censor their collection by eg removing gay themed novels or particular political views from their shelves.

If you start drawing lines about acceptability the issue is always 'who decides'. Yes, one solution would be to prevent kids accessing it, or to be consistent with the library service's stated position another solution might be to provide other 'art' that depicts a more realistic spectrum of gay sex (or indeed any sex). I can't see either as an 'easy' option, but if its a choice of freedom or censorship, I'll choose the freedom route.

ShatteredWings
October 19th, 2012, 08:29 AM
Does the kid have Internet access?
Does she read fanfic?

Answers are probably both yes.
If so, parents need to shut up...
Kids find porn. Big deal.