Environment

[Lifesreject]

Why do so many people not seem to care about the environment at all. I mean look at all the kids that get dropped off at school on a morning yet they live around the corner and it wouldnt take 10 minutes to walk. And people recycling. At my house we have different bins and boxes for rectcling which the council pick up yet you dont see that many other people with them out.

I totally think people should stop worrying about how they look and if there hair is perfectly straight and start worrying about our plant. I mean if everyone carrys on the way they are we wont be able to breath enough just to do the simpelst things because ther wont be enough oxygen in the atmosphere.

So mabey everyone should just walk a little more or even just care share because it would cut down on pollution and stuff. Plus it would be good for them and help stop obesity which the government are always trying to cut down on.

If everyone just did a little bit it would help.

Sorry just a wild rant.

[Underground_Network]

Its too late. I know, you don't feel good about how all the assholes (I'm sorry that's the nicest way I can put it) who have messed up the environment and continue to mess up the environment, but its truly too late. We can't stop global warming, and if people say that doesn't exist, well we have proof of ozone depletion and depletion of the magnetic field surrounding the earth, thus the end has already begun. The world is going to die, its just another organism, it has a basic life cycle, much longer than a humans of course, but look at the earth as just another being, think of it as something that lives, grows old, especially when mistreated/abused, and then dies. The earth would probably die on its own in several billion-trillion years, but with our help, and they help of the space surrounding us, we could face immediate extinction any from 5 minutes from now till 100 million years from now. Some scientists hypothesize we are headed toward an unstable part of the Milky Way Galaxy, and due to the deterioration of the Magnetic field surrounding the Earth, we are nearly double as vulnerable to being destroyed due to the magnetic instability. The poles will switch faster than they're supposed, and with a shift in the magnetic poles, birds and other animals dependent on magnetic signals, will get lost, and probably die. We ourselves could be crushed if the part of space is really as unstable as some scientists theorize, and there are several ways we could die, if what they hypothesize is true (it should occur anywhere from 2010-2020, if it does happen, and I myself am not a firm believer, but do not rule it out as a possibility). There's no time for us to clean up the environment. I love the environment, and I love animals. I think animals deserve to live more than I think humans should. In fact I think the world was a better place until humans came along, but its good to know there are other people who care about animals and the environment. I think its too late. I'm not saying give up, but I see any more efforts on trying to stop global warming or ozone depletion as pointless. Its too late. We're doomed. Even pre-historic man saw this coming. Its the beginning of the end right now people. Everything has an end. Everything runs in cycles. The Earth's life cycle is almost up. The Earth may not die before we die, but its been fatally wounded, but a fatal wound to the Earth can take awhile to actually kill. The Earth will die, there's no preventing it. Again, it's too late. :/

[Octo22]

I blame vegetarians. They're eating all the plants.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

I do my part, I just wish everyone else would...:(

[Underground_Network]

I blame vegetarians. They're eating all the plants.

Somewhat harsh, but that deserves an LMAO!

But anyway, I think its too late. We've already screwed up this world and we can't fix it. We can try our best but we will never fully succeed. But I'm not not recommending that you should help out, I think you should, it is for a worthy cause, but I just feel its too late. We can't just take it back.

[Maverick]

You're kinda contradicting yourself. You're saying it's too late but we should try to help out?

[Whisper]

I blame vegetarians. They're eating all the plants.
Speaking as a vegetarian
fuck off

Now from what I've seen and the technology that we have its not to late nor is it impossible
the governments mainly America and China don't want to do anything about it
because its gonna be really hard :(
pathetic pussy's

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

No, Chinese wont do anything because they dont give a shit what everyone else thinks, and America is run by big business, so, i doubt that Big Oil, etc., will have a change of heart.

[Octo22]

Speaking as a vegetarian
fuck off

Speaking as someone who can see an obvious joke
get a sense of humour.


America and China don't want to do anything about it
because its gonna be really hard :(

hahahahahaha oh dear, who fed you that garbage?

Hard = a challenge for those two countries. The ONLY reason they won't get involved is, where's the source of profit?

If the States keeps building up its oil and gas supply, it can then sell it to the rest of the world for tons of cash. How would an alternative fuel source for example, help them make money at all?

Fixing the environment costs money they're not willing to spend.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

Good Point octo! (Bravo:D)

[Prince Jellyfish]

Speaking as someone who can see an obvious joke
get a sense of humour.



PROTIP: Questioning the Mods is a good way to get in trouble.

[Lifesreject]

Yer well alot of people may think its too late but i think everybody did a bit we may be able to everything down. And i agree that America and China wont do anything because they wont get a profit out of it. I think people in this world care to much about money and not what is happening around them!!

[Octo22]

PROTIP: Questioning the Mods is a good way to get in trouble.

That's why it ended in get a sense of humour, and not a copycat of his "fuck off".

[Underground_Network]

LET ME PUT IT THIS WAY: IS IT REALLY TOO LATE? NO! But....

The only way to prevent the Earth from "dying", is for everyone to pitch in and help, and there will never be enough people willing to pitch in and help,thus, it is too late. People are trying their best, but there are not enough people. My point is, there will never be enough people to fix the world, because everyone, even those who want to save the environment are somewhat lazy. Doing good for the sake of good is never a bad thing, so trying to help is fine. I am not helping because I know that just one more person (me), is not enough to help fight the cause. It's too late because not enough people are pitching in. It wouldn't even be a problem if everybody pitched in... But there is no way in hell everybody will ever pitch in, thus it's too late.

[Hyper]

Most people don't care and wouldn't help becasue their minds are too small to understand what impacts it has on the world if every jerk in the world decides to throw a plastic bottle in a camp fire, or drop something in the forest that won't naturally dissolve.. Or even leave the TV receiver on.. And so on....

[Whisper]

Speaking as someone who can see an obvious joke
get a sense of humour.
I have one that wasn't funny just flat out insulting





hahahahahaha oh dear, who fed you that garbage?

Hard = a challenge for those two countries. The ONLY reason they won't get involved is, where's the source of profit?
Jesus....
Okay first of all I live in Alberta and worked in the oilfield for 6 months I know all about the oil industry and the profit
I also realize that there is allot of money to be had in green energy
Why? Because our generation is all about the environment thats the new movement
Just because theres a risk involved doesn't mean theres zero profit
Syncrude came to northern Alberta's tar sands when oil was cheep cheep there was zero profit in the extraction, but they stuck with it why? because they weren't fucking idiots and now there making tens of billions of dollars within 5yrs they'll be counting in the trillions
I'm not saying we get rid of the oil industry its a part of our modern world oil byproducts are in EVERYTHING theres over 500,000 known uses of oil: Fertilizers (farms/food supply), medicines, plastics, insulation, computers, asphalt, inks & toners, paints, glues, solvents, antiseptics, golf balls, CDs trash bags, nail polish, detergents, chewing gum, etc.
Its not going anywhere
But we can cut back on it in other areas hell we HAVE to we need it for everything else we cant afford to waste it when we don't need to

Hydrogen has MAJOR promise the reason its not being used is because it requires a massive investment once thats given its nothing but cash
Bio diesel more fuel efficient vehicles, hybrids, wind power, wave poer, tidal turbines, geothermal, solar, nuclear (instead of coal) etc...
For someone to believe theres no profit is truly blind



If the States keeps building up its oil and gas supply, it can then sell it to the rest of the world for tons of cash. How would an alternative fuel source for example, help them make money at all?

Fixing the environment costs money they're not willing to spend.
The states uses the oil it gets every single drop of Alberta oil is piped to America, a ton from Saudi Arabia etc...

Easy they expand and diversify
theres no reason that company's like Shell, Esso etc... cant expand into clean fuel



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Yuri unless you have something to add to the conversation whatever you're opinion maybe then don't post
A comment like you just made exists solely to try and embarrass a member and to spam the thread
I don't tolerate posts like that
ever
This is your first and only warning

[Maverick]

Yuri unless you have something to add to the conversation whatever you're opinion maybe then don't post
A comment like you just made exists solely to try and embarrass a member and to spam the thread
I don't tolerate posts like that
ever
This is your first and only warning
Maybe it's just me but it sounded like Yuri was agreeing with the points Octo made not to insult anybody.

[Hauptmann Kauffman]

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Yuri unless you have something to add to the conversation whatever you're opinion maybe then don't post
A comment like you just made exists solely to try and embarrass a member and to spam the thread
I don't tolerate posts like that
ever
This is your first and only warning[/QUOTE]

"If the States keeps building up its oil and gas supply, it can then sell it to the rest of the world for tons of cash. How would an alternative fuel source for example, help them make money at all?

Fixing the environment costs money they're not willing to spend."

Octo had just stated what I believe and was trying to voice. I was NOT trying to spam or insult anyone!

[Mannequin]

well as much as we all loveee to think that we help the environment--we destroy it everyday like it or not. we use natural resources at quicker rates than they can be produced, we heat our homes, we drive cars, we watch tv, we take overly long showers, waste electricity, many of us litter, use plastic, dont recycle everything we can..i mean really....no one can really complain until they wear leaves as garments and live in the wilderness and eat only raw foods and defecate out of doors w/out the use of toilet paper WHILE walking to every destination opposed to riding a car.

[Sage]

There are to kinds of people out there. Those who care about the environment and do their best to minimalize the damage, and those who say "Fuck it, too late." Guess which side has something to gain.

[Underground_Network]

well as much as we all loveee to think that we help the environment--we destroy it everyday like it or not. we use natural resources at quicker rates than they can be produced, we heat our homes, we drive cars, we watch tv, we take overly long showers, waste electricity, many of us litter, use plastic, dont recycle everything we can..i mean really....no one can really complain until they wear leaves as garments and live in the wilderness and eat only raw foods and defecate out of doors w/out the use of toilet paper WHILE walking to every destination opposed to riding a car.

QFT, my point exactly.

[Octo22]

Just because theres a risk involved doesn't mean theres zero profit

Why take this risk when the U.S. can bask in the glory of their oil business for quite a bit longer? The U.S. isn't known for taking BIG risks when it comes to billions. They do on occasion, but not usually in helping the world type business.

They won't sign Kyoto for god's sake.


Bio diesel more fuel efficient vehicles, hybrids, wind power, wave poer, tidal turbines, geothermal, solar, nuclear (instead of coal) etc...
For someone to believe theres no profit is truly blind

We suck up too much power for a lot of this to be even worth looking into. Like someone said, we suck it up before we can make it.

Wind power for example, I think they did a recent study (I'll try to find it again and scan it) that you'd have to cover the entire state of california in windmills to power california for a few months.




The states uses the oil it gets every single drop of Alberta oil is piped to America, a ton from Saudi Arabia etc...

Replaces uses, with saves. And yes. They're saving tons of oil. The only time they tap the oil reserves is to run war machines.

It's similar to the diamond industry. Trillions of diamonds exist, but only 1/100000th are available for purchase, making it seem more rare and worth more. Now if the states owns all the oil left in the world, and only puts 10% for sale, I wonder if that would be profitable?


Yuri unless you have something to add to the conversation whatever you're opinion maybe then don't post
A comment like you just made exists solely to try and embarrass a member and to spam the thread
I don't tolerate posts like that
ever
This is your first and only warning

Like he said, he was just agreeing with my viewpoint.

[RaisingSand]

I agree, and one of the main factors I don't want to have children is because I don't like the way the world is headed in the way of politics and global warming. Comments posted ITT are prime examples.
If everyone did their bit, we could probably hold off the inevitable for a while longer, but NOOOO ... >.>

[Underground_Network]

I don't even know if I'll be around long enough to have children. Scientists keep pointing out that impending doom is headed our way. If you live in the U.S., you're screwed, because of Yellowstone and the River Valley caldera (as well as other calderas in Nevada, California, and several other western states), and if you live anywhere else you still have global warming/ozone depletion and you have theories that we're headed into an unstable part of the Milky Way Galaxy. The poles are switching at a much faster rate than they're supposed, thus compasses will be rendered useless, although they are not a necessity, and all animals with interior compasses (i.e. most birds) will end up lost and probably die. With birds dying other animals will die, but its not just that, certain areas will have climate changes, thus certain plant life and animals will not be able to survive, and eventually humans will have nothing to eat, except maybe each other. Remember, this is partially a theory (scientists know we're headed into an unstable part of the Milky Way Galaxy, but there are two things they are unsure of; 1)When it will happen, most scientists estimate anywhere from 10-50 years from now; 2)Whether it will be bad enough, or whether the duration will be long enough to cause severe harm.)

[Camazotz]

I blame vegetarians. They're eating all the plants.

Lol...Well, if we dont protect the environment, the world will be in danger.