Gong to war against Iran

[Sir Suomi]

Lets say the U.S decides that Iran has became too much of a threat, and needed to be taken down. How do you think that war would go down?

[West Coast Sheriff]

Just like the Iraq one has?

[Gigablue]

I don't really think they would achieve anything other than deepening the division between the US and the Middle East. There really isn't anything they could gain by going to war, and there is a lot to lose. The only way it would be justified is if Iran attacked them or declared war against them first.

[MisterSix]

Cut off all their trade and force Iran to throw the first stone and then invade them without declaring war

[West Coast Sheriff]

Cut off all their trade and force Iran to throw the first stone and then invade them without declaring war

Haha. Yes. :yes: propably that aswell.

[Sugaree]

Lets say the U.S decides that Iran has became too much of a threat, and needed to be taken down. How do you think that war would go down?

Land invasion of Iran leads to massive bombings (non-nuclear). Israel, wonderful as they are, get involved in the invasion. Iran begins carpet bombing Israel, pummeling major cities like Tel Aviv and Jerusalem into the ground. Most ancient relics, such as the Wailing Wall and Temple, are consequently destroyed. Holy war has begun with the U.S. forced to take the side of Israel because we're too stupid to realize how much a threat Israel is to our OWN national security. All sides lose countless forces, both dead and prisoners, and turn each other into black craters either with more massive carpet bombings or one giant nuclear explosion.

And during that time, your fellow Americans will gather 'round the TV, watching as the boys and girls die at the hands of gutless pigs who profit from the death of innocents. And each holiday, people will gather around to remember the troops and support them, even though no one REALLY knows what the hell we're fighting for. God bless us.

[TheBigUnit]

Iran obviously will not get anywhere close to israel, iranian air force won't get to tel aviv or jerusalem, I believe MisterSix is most correct.

Iran is in a pickle, as far as I know no country will support iran except maybe china, but they would be risking their economy greatly,

If war does happen it would be because israel finally convinced usa and it would be after the pres. Election, NATO might join in if iran starts the war

Iran will lose their navy immediatly and air force will get hampered, (israel is soooo ready to fight :/...), the first mission would be to destroy all industrial places and after special ops missions to the nuclear area etcetc there prob will be no land invasion till the very end, if this happens maybe all of irans missiles would go straight to israel and flatten some cities, iran might even blow up their nuclear plants and spread radiation to its own ppl and everyone around,

Let's hope there is no war like tht

[Cicero]

We just got out of a war.

But say down the road, in maybe 5 years. I would honestly live in fear of a nuclear attack. A bunch of guys at the gym were talking about iraq having nuclear missiles pointing at us in south america, and that freaks me out. Idk if its a rumor or not.
sion of Iran leads to massive bombings (non-nuclear). Israel, wonderful as they are, get involved in the invasion. Iran begins carpet bombing Israel, pummeling major cities like Tel Aviv and Jerusalem into the ground. Most ancient relics, such as the Wailing Wall and Temple, are consequently destroyed. Holy war has begun with the U.S. forced to take the side of Israel because we're too stupid to realize how much a threat Israel is to our OWN national security. All sides lose countless forces, both dead and prisoners, and turn each other into black craters either with more massive carpet bombings or one giant nuclear explosion.

And during that time, your fellow Americans will gather 'round the TV, watching as the boys and girls die at the hands of gutless pigs who profit from the death of innocents. And each holiday, people will gather around to remember the troops and support them, even though no one REALLY knows what the hell we're fighting for. God bless us.

weve always (in a way) been a friend of israel, and we should continue being friends of israel. They have never done anything against us. But yes, I agree with what you said, other than what you said about israel.

[Sugaree]

weve always (in a way) been a friend of israel, and we should continue being friends of israel. They have never done anything against us. But yes, I agree with what you said, other than what you said about israel.

We shouldn't be friends with Israel, we should be friends with Palestine. The dawn of Israel after WWII should never have happened. The 1967 territory maps evenly divide the land between Palestine (which was forced to accept liberated Jews after WWII) and the then budding Israel. Each side would keep what they perceive to be their holy lands, and both sides would be happy. But Israel feels it is on a conquest to take away the lands rightfully belonging to Palestine. The United States needs to take a stand for the little guy, because Israel is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

[chris1997]

I don't give a Shit just SIGN ME UP. USMC

[Sugaree]

I don't give a Shit just SIGN ME UP. USMC

Ladies and gentlemen, this is what happens when you live in a society that idolizes its military.

[chris1997]

sorry if i pissed any one off but its just how i feel

[Sugaree]

sorry if i pissed any one off but its just how i feel

Why though? Iran has done nothing to you, personally. I'm fine if you want to enlist, but your attitude clearly states that you want to go overseas and shoot people without any consequences. It's people like that that give our military a very bad reputation.

[Human]

no war, peace:(

[chris1997]

AS for the war part it is a What if question. trust me i know the consequences. I know 2 friends in the USMC. ones a Bolt Action Long Range Rifleman as for short "sniper" which is what position i would like to obtain, mainly because he has the courage, the knowledge, and the understanding that it's life or death at times and no matter what you do you can NEVER call the bullet back. To kill someone puts tons of guilt and sometimes more often than not regret on the shooter, but you have to think if i don't kill him my enemy. How many other "good people" may die. i say Good People in quotations because there are no good people. We all have evils and are expressed at sometime, somehow. Me and him share the same philosophy in this subject and in general.

this feels like a debate now

Please don't double post. Use the edit button instead.

[Cicero]

We shouldn't be friends with Israel, we should be friends with Palestine. The dawn of Israel after WWII should never have happened. The 1967 territory maps evenly divide the land between Palestine (which was forced to accept liberated Jews after WWII) and the then budding Israel. Each side would keep what they perceive to be their holy lands, and both sides would be happy. But Israel feels it is on a conquest to take away the lands rightfully belonging to Palestine. The United States needs to take a stand for the little guy, because Israel is a wolf in sheep's clothing.

are u kidding me? irael i the 'little guy' 5 huge countries against 1 little one..

[Professional Russian]

are u kidding me? irael i the 'little guy' 5 huge countries against 1 little one..

except they have no idea what they are doing by bombing iran. they cant defend themselves. the do a bunch of shit and when they get attacked they start yelling the US to come help their asses. it is a lose of lives that could have lived if Israel didnt fuck up.

[Sugaree]

are u kidding me? irael i the 'little guy' 5 huge countries against 1 little one..

What bullshit. Israel is the one picking fights with other Arab nations because they have a huge superiority complex. Israel is not a little nation. They've got nuclear warheads and will use them against anyone who doesn't like them (case in point, Iran).

[Cicero]

What bullshit. Israel is the one picking fights with other Arab nations because they have a huge superiority complex. Israel is not a little nation. They've got nuclear warheads and will use them against anyone who doesn't like them (case in point, Iran).

they havent used them. that land has been theres for a way longer time, since the time of Abraham. thousands of years ago. then while they werent there arab nations claimed it as there own

[Sugaree]

they havent used them. that land has been theres for a way longer time, since the time of Abraham. thousands of years ago. then while they werent there arab nations claimed it as there own

The majority of the land Israel now occupies rightfully belongs to Palestine. Israel should only have control over what the 1967 border map gave.

http://fasttimesinpalestine.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/four-panel-map.jpg

You see that? Israel is now taking over the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, which rightfully belongs to the Palestinians. The land which Israel occupies is indeed culturally significant to them, but it was not specifically theirs in the first place. The Israelis of ancient times killed every single citizen of Canaan in order to gain that land under the command of their god. If that land belongs to anyone, it's the Canaanites who no longer exist because that was their home land that Israel stole.

[TheBigUnit]

Listen israel is not a country to pick a fight with.... In all honesty israel will simply not give their land back unless some crazy diplomatic issue occurs and Netanyahu is gone, Netanyahu as you mite kno was raised in Philadelphia, heck he even has a philly accent only reason why he prob is legally thr pm is bc he was born in israel..... israel will destroy the world if they have to, they will not surrendor heck I think if anything crazy does happen it ll be israel not iran tht use nukes

[ArsenicCatNip]

are u kidding me? irael i the 'little guy' 5 huge countries against 1 little one..


You couldn't be anymore wrong. Israel since its conception has done nothing but invade Pakistan for its land, in the process killing innocent people. By all means they aren't the little guy because they have America in with them.

[StoppingTime]

You couldn't be anymore wrong. Israel since its conception has done nothing but invade Pakistan for its land, in the process killing innocent people. By all means they aren't the little guy because they have America in with them.

Geography:

Israel and Pakistan aren't exactly close to each other.... at all.

[Sir Suomi]

I'd say combined air strikes agains Iran's Air Force and Navy, and then an all oh attack on economic and industrial buildings. Spec Op raids against nuclear facilities, after a certain amount of time, a combined U.S NATO land invasion. Forced peace treaty within about a year or two. Occupy fr a given amount of time, and then withdrawal.

[TheBigUnit]

I said the same thing but I think iran will blow up their nuclear facilities

[Sir Suomi]

Possibly. But I think they would decide to not do that. I think lied than likely their just gave it that they were going to lose, and try and go out as peacefully as they could. Hopefully :/

[TheBigUnit]

Not likely, the supreme leader and the president are pretty radical, that being said they're not animals as our media portrays them

[ArsenicCatNip]

Geography:

Israel and Pakistan aren't exactly close to each other.... at all.


Ahh, my mistake I got the names confused :P

[deadpie]

The majority of the land Israel now occupies rightfully belongs to Palestine. Israel should only have control over what the 1967 border map gave.

image (http://fasttimesinpalestine.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/four-panel-map.jpg)

You see that? Israel is now taking over the West Bank and the Gaza Strip, which rightfully belongs to the Palestinians. The land which Israel occupies is indeed culturally significant to them, but it was not specifically theirs in the first place. The Israelis of ancient times killed every single citizen of Canaan in order to gain that land under the command of their god. If that land belongs to anyone, it's the Canaanites who no longer exist because that was their home land that Israel stole.

took the words out of me actually i'm just lazy and wanting to quote a good post from a smart user, watched a documentary on vice on somethings about Israel recently and didn't know what to think, because I used to defend them myself. Heh.