View Full Version : Romney fallout
TheBigUnit
September 20th, 2012, 09:56 PM
http://m.youtube.com/watch?gl=US&hl=en&client=mv-google&v=dfwRyal5fVk#watch_actions
So do you believe this will significantly affect Romney? The video get much worse which worries me tht Romaney isn't the best guy to throw in on the spot kinda like biden some key points:
He talks about if he were to be latino or african american, what do u think about tht?
If it wasn't for welfare Romney wouldn't be where he is today, his dad was dirt poor, Do u agree?
Fox news is now trying to conjure a scandal about obama, not really working
Also each person u saw sitting around romney paid $50,000
nice
September 20th, 2012, 10:07 PM
Wow I don't really thin he is going to win since this video surfaced
TheBigUnit
September 20th, 2012, 10:36 PM
Its just pure stupidity
FreeFall
September 20th, 2012, 11:08 PM
I feel psychically ill now. Hearing what he's said has made me very anxious and ugh. So glad I'm registered to vote, I'm in that 47% and he doggone well isn't getting it.
What he should've done was address the legitimately lazy that are mooching off of the government. Instead he threw a blanket statement that included everyone unemployed, for whatever reason, as lazy and entitled? I'm actually pretty upset over that, I've had 7 job interviews this month, what more can I do other than present myself as the best possible future employee? It's actually pretty hard in this competition to get hired still. Some of us are trying to take that "personal responsibility" but have obstacles we need help to overcome. Romney was born with a silver spoon in his mouth. He has no idea what us little citizens do, how we live, what hard work really is. I doubt many presidents and those elected have a clue about things like that. They're sitting at their nice polished desks, looking over documents and things, wondering what they can do to get re-elected/get the seat. He'll never know what kind of life the 30 something single mother of two in my community college class has to go through, he'll never know how my parents are freaking out over taxes, he'll never know how the kids miss their recess due to cuts, frankly no President really knows the "average American". They just know their polished desks and suits. How dare he generalize all unemployed as lazy. And if he yanks away our only hope of getting better employment, that'll make it worse! How am I going to get by without financial aid? We can't afford college, even community, and there are many, many, many people in my position. Not everyone mooches off of the system, some citizens really do need it.
Last I heard about his latino comment got him a swift kick in the butt. Correct me if I'm wrong, but he joked how being latino would help him get votes. It's not funny, it was stupid, and pretty much after he basically said he condoned police violence against latinos in Arizona? I'm at a loss for words. I also can't recall what he did to piss off the NAACP, I know he managed to, probably it was Obama related maybe the healthcare, please correct me my mind's all over the place, but if he managed to get an entire group pretty angry at him I'm uncomfortable. I'm only half black, but it worries me that he somehow managed to do that. When you get an entire race support group angry at you, you really did something wrong. Same thing with the latino community. Be it racist, be insensitive, be it a threat to dismantle the group, or a poor joke again. He needs more tact or just a better way of getting his ideas across.
Romney's got his good points, he's a brilliant business man, but he's negative values are outshining what good he has. It's a shame his digging his own grave, I hope he's not oblivious to it. But I don't think there's any coming back from this. He can redeem himself, he can try, but things like this will not be forgotten. To this day the Monica Lewinsky scandal still comes up when speaking about affairs or the Clintons. The damage is done.
Mortal Coil
September 21st, 2012, 04:38 AM
I seriously hope he doesn't win. I didn't like him before, for the reasons you've listed here amongst others, and I don't like him now. But at least he's not as scary as Santorum or Bachmann. We'd be in trouble if they were still running.
Sugaree
September 21st, 2012, 11:44 AM
For the past two weeks, Romney has had foot-in-mouth disease. I'm not surprised.
TheBigUnit
September 21st, 2012, 03:47 PM
Ha I mean really, its looking very bad, his tour to europe and israel were legitimate disators heck the brits call him Mitt the Twitt
Obama would be smart if he doesn't say anything till the fallout goes,
I think it would be extremely scary if Rick Perry somehow made it this far, much worse than santorum,
Cicero
September 22nd, 2012, 06:27 PM
It can really go any way, I know many, many democrats are not going to vote for Obama. But I know many Republicans that are scared of what Romeny will do. I do agree with Romney on where he stands on SOME issues. I think that whole video (assuming its the one that caused all this drama and how if he were mexican he would win, video didnt work, so im assuming its that one) wont really affect him much. I do believe that people who are able to get jobs, should, any way its possible. Everyone should support themselves if they are able to, because it will lessen the impact of those who can physically/mentally not hold a job.
If it wasnt for welfare Romney would be where he is today. Because he earned his money on his own. His dad eventually did good, but it was Romney who opened his own businesses and became what he was. Not welfare, not his dad, but himself. Im not saying his father didnt do anything. But hes worth $200,000,000.00 on his own. I really dont get why its so bad hes worth so much. He worked hard for it.
Btw, the way he handles taxes (through cayman islands) isnt illegal. But it sure as hell isnt good if your running for president. Any smart business man whos worth that much, would do the same thing. Anyone who wants to keep more money to themselves, would do it. But he has also given an upwards of $30,000,000.00 to charities.
Who cares if those people payed $50,000.00 or not? You never provided any source for that, so I am going to say thats over exaggerated. People need to stop being jealous of a fellow American who makes more money, and be happy for them. A doctor can make over $200,000.00 a year, I dont care that they make that much. They deserve it. Saving countless lives is what theyre job is. The American way is an Upper Class, Middle Class, and Lower Class. It seems like people just want everyone Middle Class, which seems like its something a dictator would do. Diversity is what makes America, Diversity in finances, race, ethnicities, jobs, etc
TheBigUnit
September 22nd, 2012, 09:11 PM
Yes you are mostly correct, $50000 was the buy in to tht party because its for mitts fundraising, but welfare helped mitt when he was a kid atleast, I don't hate him I don't like him, I wouldve liked him more if he didn't pick paul ryan and really tht guy needs a set viewpoint for stuff he's been changing views since like he first started politics
Cicero
September 22nd, 2012, 09:40 PM
Yes you are mostly correct, $50000 was the buy in to tht party because its for mitts fundraising, but welfare helped mitt when he was a kid atleast, I don't hate him I don't like him, I wouldve liked him more if he didn't pick paul ryan and really tht guy needs a set viewpoint for stuff he's been changing views since like he first started politics
Well if he was a certain race, or born in a certain country. They would be more likely to vote for him a little more. so if he were mexican or born in mexico, the latino vote would like him a tad more. I know with me being brazillian, i would be more likely to vote for another brazillian. its just how people are. and im sure its not meant as a racist remark. if the two presidential candidates believed in everything exactly the same, and the difference was one was hawaiin and the other was brazilian i would vote for the brazilian just cause hes of my race/ethnicity/country. but it didnt help mitt for to long, because they slowly became financially dependent and having financial assistance isnt wrong at all.
who cares what the buy in was. in order to go to an obama celebrity event you have to pay an insane amount too.
Guillermo
September 23rd, 2012, 12:28 AM
Well if he was a certain race, or born in a certain country. They would be more likely to vote for him a little more. so if he were mexican or born in mexico, the latino vote would like him a tad more.
In order to be president of the U.S., one must be born in the U.S., or by two American-born citizens in another country. So a president couldn't be born in Mexico or any other country. However if a family moved over here in the U.S. and had a child here, then their child could be president of the US. Not sure how it is in Brazil but that's how it is in the US.
Cicero
September 23rd, 2012, 01:30 AM
In order to be president of the U.S., one must be born in the U.S., or by two American-born citizens in another country. So a president couldn't be born in Mexico or any other country. However if a family moved over here in the U.S. and had a child here, then their child could be president of the US. Not sure how it is in Brazil but that's how it is in the US.
you didnt get what i said. i live and was born in the us. he was saying if he were born in mexico, he would get more of the mexican vote. and i know if there was a brazillian born president, i would vote for him. if the guy running for president was brazilian i would vote for him just because hes brazilian like me...
FreeFall
September 23rd, 2012, 01:51 AM
Race and ethnicity mean nothing in a presidential running. It really saddens me that people tie it in, like being a certain race means something. I'm accused of voting for Obama because he's mixed race like me, uh no try the fact that I agree with what he stands for (at the time anyways) and see hope (at the time anyways again) with him as president.
If anything he, Romeny, just showed us he's got a "flock together" mindset. That minorities will not socialize with other races when they can huddle together in their racial group and be a unit, so having one of their "unit members" in the running is a sure fire way to get a buttload of votes, because nothing else matters except your race. Heh.
Awkward_Geek
September 23rd, 2012, 08:26 AM
The thing that frustrates me is that Mitt Romney changes his mind quite a lot and that doesn't have any worthwhile effect on the polls!
Guillermo
September 23rd, 2012, 12:08 PM
you didnt get what i said. i live and was born in the us. he was saying if he were born in mexico, he would get more of the mexican vote. and i know if there was a brazillian born president, i would vote for him. if the guy running for president was brazilian i would vote for him just because hes brazilian like me...
No, I do. But what I'm saying is that a U.S. president CANNOT be born in another country like Mexico or Brazil. If their parents were from Brazil or Mexico and they were born over here, then yes they could be president. And by the way, that'd be a very sad, pathetic reason to vote for a president. Their ideas, beliefs and standpoints should matter more than race and ethnicity. But unfortunately, you and a whole bunch of other Americans don't look at the bigger picture and actually look into what their possible president believes and stands for. It's a damn shame.
Cicero
September 23rd, 2012, 01:58 PM
No, I do. But what I'm saying is that a U.S. president CANNOT be born in another country like Mexico or Brazil. If their parents were from Brazil or Mexico and they were born over here, then yes they could be president. And by the way, that'd be a very sad, pathetic reason to vote for a president. Their ideas, beliefs and standpoints should matter more than race and ethnicity. But unfortunately, you and a whole bunch of other Americans don't look at the bigger picture and actually look into what their possible president believes and stands for. It's a damn shame.
holy fuck. no. race wouldnt change my mind. i said if 2 presidential candidates who were running against each other believed in the same exact thing and were going to do the same exact thing. but the only difference was one was some other ethnicity, and the other was of the same ethnicity as me. i would vote for him because hes the same ethnciity. Now given the fact that, that type of situation would never happen. i wouldnt really do that. i look at ther viewpoints. but what i was saying, is that if one person was of the same ethnicity as the presidential candidate they would vote for him and lean a little more toward him. thats what mitt romney was saying.
Guillermo
September 23rd, 2012, 07:18 PM
holy fuck. no. race wouldnt change my mind. i said if 2 presidential candidates who were running against each other believed in the same exact thing and were going to do the same exact thing. but the only difference was one was some other ethnicity, and the other was of the same ethnicity as me. i would vote for him because hes the same ethnciity. Now given the fact that, that type of situation would never happen. i wouldnt really do that. i look at ther viewpoints. but what i was saying, is that if one person was of the same ethnicity as the presidential candidate they would vote for him and lean a little more toward him. thats what mitt romney was saying.
My bad. Thank you for clarifying. But just so you also know, there are other candidates to choose from. That's what is also wrong with this nation - people think that there are only two candidates to choose from or they don't think that choosing for one of the third party candidates would make a difference. But I'm not going into that, since there's another thread (http://www.virtualteen.org/forums/showthread.php?t=152005) on that which I expressed my views in.
TheBigUnit
September 23rd, 2012, 08:01 PM
you didnt get what i said. i live and was born in the us. he was saying if he were born in mexico, he would get more of the mexican vote. and i know if there was a brazillian born president, i would vote for him. if the guy running for president was brazilian i would vote for him just because hes brazilian like me...
FreeFall ur right
@tacitus, I mean really its not professional what he said, its obvious tht some black ppl voted for obama cuz he's colored, but really you don't go around blantantly saying tht its almost racist, and I don't support obama tht much either, he got a billion off wallstreet!, it is really the lesser of two evils here, voting for someone not democrat nor republican won't do much, romney is a very successful guy, rags to riches, he living the american dream really but he really needs to watch what he says
Cicero
September 24th, 2012, 12:57 AM
FreeFall ur right
@tacitus, I mean really its not professional what he said, its obvious tht some black ppl voted for obama cuz he's colored, but really you don't go around blantantly saying tht its almost racist, and I don't support obama tht much either, he got a billion off wallstreet!, it is really the lesser of two evils here, voting for someone not democrat nor republican won't do much, romney is a very successful guy, rags to riches, he living the american dream really but he really needs to watch what he says
What he said was true (cause i myself would slightly do the same) but he shouldnt have said it. it wasnt good what he said. it definitely didnt help him
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