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[Abd123]

I was listening to a radio show the other night because it's the only thing on. the host was out for the evening, so a guest host was conducting an interview with the lawyer filing a class action law suit against WalMart--the world's largest retailer--alleging that WalMart cheated thousands of immigrant janitors out of wages. The host argued that the janitors didn't deserve to get paid the same wage as Americans because they were illegal immigrants and shouldn't have been in America in the first place.

My bullshit detector went off, so I called into the show to slam him in the face with the sledge hammer of fallacy. The conversation went something like this:


Host "Hello, you're on the air."

Me "Yes, I'm calling to side with the lawyer."

Host "Why?"

Me "Because saying that an illegal immigrant doesn't deserve to be paid the same wages as an American because he doesn't belong here in the first place is like saying that a person trapped in a well shouldn't be saved because he shouldn't have been playing around the well in the first place."

Host (pause)
"Yeah... that's a good point."


He then hung up on me and proceeded to repeat his argument verbatim, even though I handed him a plate full of his ass with all the trimmings, only this time he added something to the effect of "well these immigrants are coming to America and taking jobs away from Americans." What?

News flash: immigrants aren't taking anything from Americans. Companies like WalMart are giving jobs to them illegally. If WalMart paid a company to hire immigrants to do the job over Americans then there's probably a good reason for it. I'm sick and tired of lazy gluttonous Americans bitching about immigrants "taking" our jobs. It's not like they can literally come to America, ambush us in the parking lot and take our jobs.



If you lose your job to an immigrant, it's probably because he or she was willing to work harder for less money. Don't want to pay them full wages? Then don't hire them. If they do equal work, then they deserve equal pay. It's just that simple, and I'm not going to sit back like every other racist piece of shit bitching about having to work harder because there's a little competition for my job, immigrant or otherwise. I know I can do my job better than anyone, and if an immigrant thinks he can do a better job than I can, I welcome him to try.

What kind of chicken shit pussy is afraid of competition? Can't get a job because you lost out to an immigrant? Well TOUGH SHIT. Nobody wants to pay you for your half-assed work if someone else can do it better. That's what America is all about. Our president may be a moron, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let any more jackasses sully the reputation of hard working Americans who are willing to work just as hard as anyone else with or without competition. If you can't cut it, then the people with money will pay it to someone else who can. Maybe if all you people bitching weren't such lazy, pathetic, blood sucking leeches, you'd get off of your dead ass and work HARDER to do a better job. Get some balls people. If you're too chicken shit and you can't cut it, then maybe it's you who doesn't deserve to live in America. Not the immigrants.

[kolte]

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[nwshc]

I hate wal-mart. If it were up to me, I would get rid of it altogether.
Did you know that wal-mart actually costs the USA money? Because of wal-marts "minimum wage" jobs, most of those job holders need to go on welfare or some other government program. This costs money. Wal-mart also drives away jobs from the US. Walmart forces their suppliers to move over-seas and hire third world people that will work for $1 an hour, just so walmart can have "low prices, always". Its ridiculous.
And the thing that really took me over the top was what they were going to do in one of my neighboring towns.
The town is Raynham. One one side of the town there is already a walmart super center. Now what they are proposing is that they build another one, in the same town. Its insane. Everyone is against it. They have already bought many family owned stores so they can knock them down and build the walmart.
Now they are moving all over the world...

[kolte]

If sam walton was still alive, I think he would shit his pants.

quote:One one side of the town there is already a walmart super center. Now what they are proposing is that they build another one, in the same town.


I know, there are two in my tow allready

[Anonymous]

I hate any business that has a monopoly!

[WakeUp]

omg its from that damn site AGAIN

[Dante]

what are you talkin about?


I think Wal-mart is a cult.

[nwshc]

I was listening to a radio show the other night because it's the only thing on. the host was out for the evening, so a guest host was conducting an interview with the lawyer filing a class action law suit against WalMart--the world's largest retailer--alleging that WalMart cheated thousands of immigrant janitors out of wages. The host argued that the janitors didn't deserve to get paid the same wage as Americans because they were illegal immigrants and shouldn't have been in America in the first place.

My bullshit detector went off, so I called into the show to slam him in the face with the sledge hammer of fallacy. The conversation went something like this:


Host "Hello, you're on the air."

Me "Yes, I'm calling to side with the lawyer."

Host "Why?"

Me "Because saying that an illegal immigrant doesn't deserve to be paid the same wages as an American because he doesn't belong here in the first place is like saying that a person trapped in a well shouldn't be saved because he shouldn't have been playing around the well in the first place."

Host (pause)
"Yeah... that's a good point."


He then hung up on me and proceeded to repeat his argument verbatim, even though I handed him a plate full of his ass with all the trimmings, only this time he added something to the effect of "well these immigrants are coming to America and taking jobs away from Americans." What?

News flash: immigrants aren't taking anything from Americans. Companies like WalMart are giving jobs to them illegally. If WalMart paid a company to hire immigrants to do the job over Americans then there's probably a good reason for it. I'm sick and tired of lazy gluttonous Americans bitching about immigrants "taking" our jobs. It's not like they can literally come to America, ambush us in the parking lot and take our jobs.



If you lose your job to an immigrant, it's probably because he or she was willing to work harder for less money. Don't want to pay them full wages? Then don't hire them. If they do equal work, then they deserve equal pay. It's just that simple, and I'm not going to sit back like every other racist piece of shit bitching about having to work harder because there's a little competition for my job, immigrant or otherwise. I know I can do my job better than anyone, and if an immigrant thinks he can do a better job than I can, I welcome him to try.

What kind of chicken shit pussy is afraid of competition? Can't get a job because you lost out to an immigrant? Well TOUGH SHIT. Nobody wants to pay you for your half-assed work if someone else can do it better. That's what America is all about. Our president may be a moron, but I'll be damned if I'm going to let any more jackasses sully the reputation of hard working Americans who are willing to work just as hard as anyone else with or without competition. If you can't cut it, then the people with money will pay it to someone else who can. Maybe if all you people bitching weren't such lazy, pathetic, blood sucking leeches, you'd get off of your dead ass and work HARDER to do a better job. Get some balls people. If you're too chicken shit and you can't cut it, then maybe it's you who doesn't deserve to live in America. Not the immigrants.
I mean really, do you ahve to go that low than to steall this stuff form Maddox? You bum. Dont do it again.

[Dante]

if hes gonna quote these things from other sites he should list his sources, you are making people think that u are wrting this....this is plagirism.

[WakeUp]

id love him to get sued haha

[Gothic_Knight]

...You know, Maddox got pissed at the last person who stole something that he said, and embarrased them on the internet since they didn't give him credit.

Give Maddox credit before he does the same to you.

[nwshc]

O ya, where was that? I want to see it. lol.

[Gothic_Knight]

I believe you're referring to the Trippin' plagarism, right?

http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=radio_hack

That's what will happen to this guy :wink:

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

the only areas that have walmarts are hick middle of nowhere areas, so naturally ive never been to one :D

[sybar777]

Me "Because saying that an illegal immigrant doesn't deserve to be paid the same wages as an American because he doesn't belong here in the first place is like saying that a person trapped in a well shouldn't be saved because he shouldn't have been playing around the well in the first place."

Host (pause)
"Yeah... that's a good point."

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thats a terrible point... illegal immigrants dont deserve the same wage because they dont pay taxes they dont even diserve to be in america if they dont pay like the rest of us...


also i see people saying that they hate walmart.. or that they hate monopoly corporations... but think. where would we be with out them.. we depend on them... when you want a phone... why do u think there so cheap.. because there mass produced for monopoly corporations... so think of what life would be with out these buissnesses.....


!!think before you speak!!

[nwshc]

Me "Because saying that an illegal immigrant doesn't deserve to be paid the same wages as an American because he doesn't belong here in the first place is like saying that a person trapped in a well shouldn't be saved because he shouldn't have been playing around the well in the first place."

Host (pause)
"Yeah... that's a good point."

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thats a terrible point... illegal immigrants dont deserve the same wage because they dont pay taxes they dont even diserve to be in america if they dont pay like the rest of us...


also i see people saying that they hate walmart.. or that they hate monopoly corporations... but think. where would we be with out them.. we depend on them... when you want a phone... why do u think there so cheap.. because there mass produced for monopoly corporations... so think of what life would be with out these buissnesses.....


!!think before you speak!!
We do think.
With out Wal-mart, America and any other country where there is one, would be a better place.
Do you know why their products are so cheap? Because they force 3rd world employees to work for pennies. This in turn makes the products cheaper. That is not good. Do you know what else they do? They cost America $ in the long run. Because of Wal-Marts Minimum wage jobs, it forces those minimum wage employees to go on well fare. Then we have to support their asses through taxes.
Life would be great with out walmart.
Take your own advise and study up.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

maddox is king, dont refute him

[nwshc]

Maddox is the biggest ass in the world.
He should be dead.

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

you should be dead :D

[redcar]

u should never wish anyone dead.......

[nwshc]

you should be dead :D
Ya well...
PWNED up the ass! 8)

[<-Dying_to_Live->]

highly unlikely. u need to come to your senses

[nwshc]

PWNED AGAIN

[serial-thrilla]

....right

[RunAwayMolly]

we wouldnt be here if our ancestors werent immagrants

[Latino_Teen68]

ok yeh i agree i hate Wal-mart and Sam's Club

a)The jobs thAT people say immigrants "steal" are jobs u get when you are a teenager or your first job to make some quick cash its not like they are taking the office jobs and the jobs u worked harded to earn

b) no-body like doing their job unless u get to design cool stuff. and i know the immigrants arnt happy being janitors.

c) thats taking advantage of a minority because the immigrants will do anything for any money.

d) and yes the people who say they got their jobs taken do complain but WTF? everybody complains about their job no matter how good.

[kolte]

This debate is about 9 months old. I ask members not to bring up topics that are over 60 days old. I will lock this and ask you to please, only refer to old debate topics. Start new debates with similer topis if you want to, but don't just bring up old news.

thanx