Obama vs. Romney

[Danny_boi 16]

Are you for Obama or Romney.

Comment below, and add why you like one candidate over the other.

[AppealToReason]

I'm tired of the "pick the lesser of two evils" bullshit, so I'm for neither.

[journey]

obama

[Guillermo]

I'm tired of people who think that there are only two presidential candidates to choose from when in actuality, there are more. This is what's wrong with this nation. It's fucked. We think that everything must either be Republican or Democratic, when it's not. If we keep thinking like this as a whole, then we'll keep electing the same problems over and over again. So, if you want to vote for the "lesser of the two evils", then you're basically wasting your vote because they don't represent your principles and beliefs and they will keep putting this nation in trillions of dollars in debt.

[Danny_boi 16]

I'm tired of people who think that there are only two presidential candidates to choose from when in actuality, there are more. This is what's wrong with this nation. It's fucked. We think that everything must either be Republican or Democratic, when it's not. If we keep thinking like this as a whole, then we'll keep electing the same problems over and over again. So, if you want to vote for the "lesser of the two evils", then you're basically wasting your vote because they don't represent your principles and beliefs and they will keep putting this nation in trillions of dollars in debt.

I know we have many, like Gov. Gary Johnson, Dr. Jill Stein, and Rep. Virgil Goode jr.

[Coolboi]

they both suck only thing bout mitt is its a change Obama is not cutting it or maybe a new party the dems an reps fight to much need a leader that has power am not a wimp

[chris1997]

I'm tired of the "pick the lesser of two evils" bullshit, so I'm for neither. haha i completely agree stupid democrats and republicans are the same. both retarded liers

[Korashk]

they both suck only thing bout mitt is its a change
No, he's not. This is something that people just don't get. Most of the time there is absolutely nothing significantly different about the big two candidates. Mitt Romney and Barack Obama are pretty much the same person when it comes to policy.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

Yes, there are many more candidates, but there are three types of people in this world. Those who want President Obama out, those who want him to stay (or who think he can do a better job than Mitt Romney), and those who refuse to decide which is the lesser of two evils. Those who want the President out of the white house will vote for the candidate who is most popular (unless of course Obama is more popular in which case they will vote for the second most popular candidate). Those who want him to stay in office will obviously vote for him. And then people like you guys will either not vote at all or vote someone who the majority of people have never even heard of. You're right, it sucks to have to pick between evils, but sitting and crying about it isn't going to do anything. "Be the change you want to see."

I personally prefer Romney over Obama. I agree with most conservative views accept those based solely on religion. Economic policies for one. I don't see abortion laws changing anytime soon and civil right for the LGBT community will eventually get there. But if we drown in our own debt while we're focusing on those issues none of it will matter. I also believe in the saying "If it isn't broken, don't fix it." The way I see it the reverse of that statement is true. Obama has created class warfare and continues to show his left wing motives. At this rate, I don't think we can survive another 4 years under Obama. Let's try to balance out what he's done by adding some weight to right side of the scale if you know what I mean.

[TheBigUnit]

Yes, there are many more candidates, but there are three types of people in this world. Those who want President Obama out, those who want him to stay (or who think he can do a better job than Mitt Romney), and those who refuse to decide which is the lesser of two evils. Those who want the President out of the white house will vote for the candidate who is most popular (unless of course Obama is more popular in which case they will vote for the second most popular candidate). Those who want him to stay in office will obviously vote for him. And then people like you guys will either not vote at all or vote someone who the majority of people have never even heard of. You're right, it sucks to have to pick between evils, but sitting and crying about it isn't going to do anything. "Be the change you want to see."

I personally prefer Romney over Obama. I agree with most conservative views accept those based solely on religion. Economic policies for one. I don't see abortion laws changing anytime soon and civil right for the LGBT community will eventually get there. But if we drown in our own debt while we're focusing on those issues none of it will matter. I also believe in the saying "If it isn't broken, don't fix it." The way I see it the reverse of that statement is true. Obama has created class warfare and continues to show his left wing motives. At this rate, I don't think we can survive another 4 years under Obama. Let's try to balance out what he's done by adding some weight to right side of the scale if you know what I mean.

I prefer obama only bc ryan is soooooooooo conservative

[Neptune]

I would pick Romney over President Obama. I don't necessarily hate everything that President Obama has done but Romney views are the closest to my own views. I mainly disagree with Romney on social issues but those issues are not important enough for me not to support him anymore. There is no perfect candidate.

[West Coast Sheriff]

Romney!

[companioncube]

I don't want to ramble on about it because I'm too tired, but Romney.

I'll be back tomorrow if I can actually remember..

[Levy]

I really don't care for either, but I find Obama more charismatic than Romney. The majority of Romney's campaign is that he is the best person to beat Obama. Either one can't change much, there is a lot more to politics than just the President. Nobody can do much with how bipartisan everything is. I'm not going to be one of those people who talk about giving up though. The moment you give up and stop caring about politics, is the moment that the government wins. They want you to not care; the less you care, the less you know. If you know nothing, then you are just sheep in their eyes. People need to be loud, and heard. I think if you don't find a reason to vote, you have no right to sit and discuss politics and how you want change.

[Syvelocin]

Ugh just give Obama his second term and let's get this the fuck over with.

It's always the lesser of two evils for me. But Obama thinks I'm allowed to get married so.... it's whoever's got the liberal views.

I would vote for one of the other candidates but I can't even vote.

[PerpetualImperfexion]

I really don't care for either, but I find Obama more charismatic than Romney.

"Sure Obama is charismatic... so was Hitler. I'm a Democrat, but I refuse to vote for a communist." - My Grandfather

[Machinegun]

Neighter.. I think they are not good for the country and for the world
I think obama is gonna win
But I think Romney is a bit better

[Asiandude]

Obama

[Coolboi]

Obama has to go an mitts state is doing ok they got health care lowest unimployment an he kicking it there as far as a president well Obama is not doing it we need a power full leader is ther any one else beside them

[Tenoramic]

Obama all the way obamama forever

[TheBigUnit]

You kno its funny cu obama isn't like the messiah or anything...6eels like some of his 2008 charms coming bak, but really obama is the first canidate to raise over a billion dollars in campaign many from wall street, he's no where near as charming as we thing he is, still voting for him tho,

[Spock]

whats with all the Democrats :/

[Professional Russian]

they both fucking suck. i vote Nobody for president 2016.

[dustypin]

Romney. Obama is a spender who does not care about our future, he is also going to try to ban the average american from having a gun. Romney has a brain and will try to sent our country in the right direction.

[Sugaree]

whats with all the Democrats :/

You got a problem with Democrats?

[Neptune]

whats with all the Democrats :/

Teenagers are usually Democrats and you are on a teen forum, you aren't going to find a solid Romney backing.

[Amnesiac]

Choosing either won't lead to any sort of change in government. Both Romney and Obama will continue the status quo because any real modifications to the way government functions in this country are too risky for them, considering the limitations of party politics and re-election campaigns.

It's not like there are only two options. I think the two-party system will experience some sort of dramatic change in the next 20 years, with rapidly shifting demographics and social attitudes. It's time to start considering the lesser-known candidates, from groups like the Libertarian and Green parties, as well as independents.

[Guillermo]

Teenagers are usually Democrats and you are on a teen forum, you aren't going to find a solid Romney backing.

Nah; most teenagers are indifferent towards politics because we're all too busy texting friends, having sex, shopping, talking on our cellphones to our BFFs, hanging out with friends, watching Here Comes Honey Boo Boo or Teen mom, in school wishing we weren't in school, being horny, watching porn, experimenting with drugs, trying to find ourselves and all that [-]normal[/-] teenage jazz, ya know?

Then you have those rare bunch that involve themselves with politics because they actually somewhat care.

[Neptune]

Nah; most teenagers are indifferent towards politics because we're all too busy texting friends, having sex, shopping, talking on our cellphones to our BFFs, hanging out with friends, watching Here Comes Honey Boo Boo or Teen mom, in school wishing we weren't in school, being horny, watching porn, experimenting with drugs, trying to find ourselves and all that [-]normal[/-] teenage jazz, ya know?

Then you have those rare bunch that involve themselves with politics because they actually somewhat care.

It's true that most do not involve themselves in politics. However, if you ask random teenagers about certain issues, their answers are usually answers that align with the platform of the Democratic Party. Gay rights, abortion, war, taxes, etc.

[TheBigUnit]

Romney is ok I just don't like Ryan

[Sugaree]

Teenagers are usually Democrats and you are on a teen forum, you aren't going to find a solid Romney backing.

I back Romney, but only because I don't see any major economic advancements. Sure, there's been some improvement, but we still have an out of control deficit, almost 9% unemployment (which is technically about 11 or 12% since they don't account for people who have stopped looking for work), and there's still no incentives for businesses to be started in the United States.

In the last year, the Obama administration has done nothing about the security leaks. The Stuxnet source code, Fast and Furious, and the plethora of information we're now receiving from a Navy Seal about the Bin Laden raid is just fucking unacceptable.

It's true that most do not involve themselves in politics. However, if you ask random teenagers about certain issues, their answers are usually answers that align with the platform of the Democratic Party. Gay rights, abortion, war, taxes, etc.

And what's wrong with that?

[darkwoon]

I back Romney, but only because I don't see any major economic advancements. Sure, there's been some improvement, but we still have an out of control deficit, almost 9% unemployment (which is technically about 11 or 12% since they don't account for people who have stopped looking for work), and there's still no incentives for businesses to be started in the United States.
Given the global economic context, it is *normal* you didn't see any major economic advancement. The world has been hit by one of the worst economical crisis of the century; in that context, expecting even a status-quo is definitely not realistic. It will take years to get the economy in shape, and it is going to be particularly long, because it involves bending powerful financial corporations. They tend to be non-cooperative, these days :)

In the last year, the Obama administration has done nothing about the security leaks. The Stuxnet source code, Fast and Furious, and the plethora of information we're now receiving from a Navy Seal about the Bin Laden raid is just fucking unacceptable.
What about Stuxnet source code? As long as you have access to a binary copy of it, it is easy to generate a valid source code for it; this form of reverse-engineering was likely performed with Stuxnet.

I won't comment Fast and Furious - I've not heard of the case (it probably didn't make enough noise to be heard across the ocean ;) ), so I can't speak about it.

As for the Navy Seal testimony: who told you that guy was not, say, just trying to make money with a cool story? I wouldn't be surprized either if, in a few years, someone claims that in fact it wasn't Bin Laden that was killed, but he has been secured for some secret government project involving a WWII German Cold Fusion device, a Tesla Generator, and the couple aliens that reside in Area 51... :) Seriously - just because the author is a Navy Seal doesn't make him any less greedy and imaginative as anybody else.

[Sugaree]

Given the global economic context, it is *normal* you didn't see any major economic advancement. The world has been hit by one of the worst economical crisis of the century; in that context, expecting even a status-quo is definitely not realistic. It will take years to get the economy in shape, and it is going to be particularly long, because it involves bending powerful financial corporations. They tend to be non-cooperative, these days :)

True, but you don't run on a platform saying you're going to completely rebound a country's economy in four years. It could have had a major turnaround, sure, but to make it to the point where it's stable would have been one hell of a feat to accomplish.


As for the Navy Seal testimony: who told you that guy was not, say, just trying to make money with a cool story? I wouldn't be surprized either if, in a few years, someone claims that in fact it wasn't Bin Laden that was killed, but he has been secured for some secret government project involving a WWII German Cold Fusion device, a Tesla Generator, and the couple aliens that reside in Area 51... :) Seriously - just because the author is a Navy Seal doesn't make him any less greedy and imaginative as anybody else.

The guy is a proven service member that was part of the Bin Laden raid last year. I would trust his story more than I would trust the official government story (which is simply a retelling of whatever the service members reported). Sure he could be making money just for having a cool story about how he saw Bin Laden's brains blown out, but when the facts are highly on his side, there's no argument against it. On top of that, I'm pretty disgraced that the Pentagon didn't immediately seal all documents relating to the Bin Laden raid after they knew it was successful.

There is some information that the public should never know, and thanks to lackluster security, the Navy Seal's name, which should have been under an assumed identity and NEVER public knowledge, is out in the open. So not only has the Pentagon put us at risk (albeit small) for being attacked, they've also put this one man's life at risk because all the radicals are going for his throat. There's no taking it back now, and I'm very disappointed how no one is making a larger uproar over this situation. This is classified information we're talking about, not run-of-the-mill newspaper headlines.

[Sleepy Raisin]

Obama for another four years is a no no, but lettig Romney in office is a horrible idea, so, absolutly neither.

[Spock]

I swas with Romney in the Beginning and i will stay with him till he gets elected and no most are not Democrats i know a ton of republican teens. I guess you are who you hang out with ;)

[Sogeking]

Since the candidate I'm most rooting for has little chance of winning I'm going for the candidate who's views I share with the most fiscally, Romney.

[Fractured Silhouette]

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Best version of the presidential debate.

[tHe_Jester1080]

obama can NOT be trusted. His goal is to "weaken" the US military. He wants america to step down from its power and let others take the lead. He has already made deals with Russian President Vladamir Putin that if he is re-elected Obama would remove all of our missile defenses out of Europe. He has called the Israeli president an untrustworthy. Isnt it kind of weird how our enemy like Russia wants the president to be re-elected, but our ally like Israel doesnt. As far as Ryan goes, dont worry about him! This is a presidential election, not vice presidential. In Obamas campaign speeches he isnt laying out his plan, he's just creating a sex and class war and hopes he comes out on top. He thinks that we should be more worried about how Romney spent his OWN money in the past 4 years and not how he spent OUR money.

[darkwoon]

He has called the Israeli president an untrustworthy. Isnt it kind of weird how our enemy like Russia wants the president to be re-elected, but our ally like Israel doesnt.
The US is allied with most of the Western European countries, and in most of those, Obama is the favourite by far. Do you consider the majority of the European public opinion and governments as enemies of the US?

[tHe_Jester1080]

No surprise that anti-america protests have spread through 21 countries in the middle east and africa, i could have told you that would have happened the second the idiot obama took all of our troops out over there. Pulling our troops out was a sign of weekness to al queada and they jumped on it. Our troops are no longer there so they filled in the missing space with anti-america terrorists that are taking over our embassies. So while they are saying "death to america" and burning our flag, the obama administration is blowing it off saying that the attacks on our embassies are not directed at the U.S.. What a wonderful leader we have that he turns a blind eye to terrorists taking over sovereign U.S. soil.

[Gaybaby94]

Obama! He supports my right to marry. Romney and the ignorant right stated that in office, they will repeal same sex marriage in states that it is already legal. Do you have any idea what damage that could do? Taking away the right to the pursuit of happiness!

[DerBear]

I am supporting Obama because in my opinion he is the lesser of the two evils.

[Professional Russian]

Obama! He supports my right to marry. Romney and the ignorant right stated that in office, they will repeal same sex marriage in states that it is already legal. Do you have any idea what damage that could do? Taking away the right to the pursuit of happiness!

Thats invalid. there much more important things to be dealt with than gay marriage. we have to deal with the economy and national debt first then we get gay marriage.

[Stephan]

Romney.

EDIT: Probably just me, but I believe Romney has more experience. I live in Boston, MA. Romney was elected governor of the state of Massachusetts for a reason, because he is bold, and likes to take immediate act when a situation goes wrong. Under the circumstances when he was governor in my state, he did a phenomenal job.

[randomme]

Obama Romney couldn't figure his way out of a one foot deep hole let alone a deficit!

[Inventor2]

Well Obama didnt do anything as president, and Romney all ready lied so i dont think he will do anything either. I dont like either of them

[Inventor2]

Thats invalid. there much more important things to be dealt with than gay marriage. we have to deal with the economy and national debt first then we get gay marriage.

Doesnt mean its invalid. So mind your own buissnes FOR ONCE

[Gigablue]

I don't really think either of them is that great, but Obama is far better. They would be about as good for the economy, but Obama has far better ideas for social issues. The republicans seem to hate women and are opposed to things like gay marriage and abortion.

[Professional Russian]

Doesnt mean its invalid. So mind your own buissnes FOR ONCE

my fucking god. There are more important things. it is an invalid reason to vote for a president. if you want gay marriage that go make an online petition for it ill be more than happy to sign it for you.

[Gigablue]

my fucking god. There are more important things. it is an invalid reason to vote for a president. if you want gay marriage that go make an online petition for it ill be more than happy to sign it for you.

I have to disagree with this. Gay marriage is a very important issue to many people, namely those who currently can't get married because it's illegal. The economy might be the most important issue for you, but you can't simply say that it is the most important issue for everyone.

[The Mockingjay]

From what I've heard of Romney, he seems to be a thick headed, gay hating idiot. Therefore... Obama!

[Inventor2]

If anything we SHOULD focus MORE on gay marrige. I can name 6 people off the top of my head that want gay marrige

[Professional Russian]

If anything we SHOULD focus MORE on gay marrige. I can name 6 people off the top of my head that want gay marrige

6 aint shit. it is not as important as the economy because without an economy we will have no country with no country you cant get married either way you will have to wait for gay marriage

[AppealToReason]

my fucking god. There are more important things. it is an invalid reason to vote for a president. if you want gay marriage that go make an online petition for it ill be more than happy to sign it for you.

Why is it invalid? It's not important to you, but many people have been waiting for years to get the same benefits as straight married couples have.
It would be nice if everyone that voted did so based on how the candidate can help the economy, but that doesn't happen. Fact is, social issues can sway people's vote. Nothing wrong with that.
The economy is important, but so are the rights of the people and Romeny's views are exactly the most supportive to minorities or women.


This whole conversation reminds me of my gun-loving freak family members. They say the same thing, "gay marriage isn't important, ect, ect", but flip out the second someone mentions gun control. People are just biased.
/offtopic

[Thunderstorm]

Why is it invalid? It's not important to you, but many people have been waiting for years to get the same benefits as straight married couples have.
It would be nice if everyone that voted did so based on how the candidate can help the economy, but that doesn't happen. Fact is, social issues can sway people's vote. Nothing wrong with that.
The economy is important, but so are the rights of the people and Romeny's views are exactly the most supportive to minorities or women.


This whole conversation reminds me of my gun-loving freak family members. They say the same thing, "gay marriage isn't important, ect, ect", but flip out the second someone mentions gun control. People are just biased.
/offtopic

Then why can't they just go to a state that has approved Gay Marriage and then go home? That simple? The economy is way more important and a multi-millionaire like Romney will be no help. It took 8 years for Bush to mess up the economy, so we need to give Obama another 4 years to fix it up.

[Sleepy Raisin]

Neither. I dislike both of them. In my opinion, Obama does a lot of stuff i very mich disagree with, and i think Romney is a con.. In a way. we some new presidents to choose from

[spofarrell]

Neither, I like Gary Johnson, the Libertarian.

[Cheli4life]

.... I think Obama :)

[wildog17]

I personally prefer Mitt. Obama has broken literally all of his promises he made, showing how unprepared he was for the job, and im tired of the well Obama was given the short end of the stick crap. No excuses, this guy is running our country, he should be able to take responsibility for himself. Besides, exactly what did Obama do in office to make him worth reelecting? And if you say "he killed osama bin laden", that was actually one thing the Bush administration started, so credit them.

[Syvelocin]

my fucking god. There are more important things. it is an invalid reason to vote for a president. if you want gay marriage that go make an online petition for it ill be more than happy to sign it for you.

There ARE more important things, you're right. However I simply can't vote for a man who doesn't at least back gay marriage, it's against my morals. I don't want a president who sees me as lesser than other people. But I do NOT want it to be dealt with before the economy.

[SaxyHaloBeast]

"Then why can't they just go to a state that has approved Gay Marriage and then go home? That simple? The economy is way more important and a multi-millionaire like Romney will be no help. It took 8 years for Bush to mess up the economy, so we need to give Obama another 4 years to fix it up."

Wait. A multi-millionaire....can't fix the economy? What kind of logic is that? Of course he can. He is a multi-millionaire. He is a businessman. He is obviously very good with his money. He knows how the economy works. I'm sure he can fix it...or atleast much better than Obama can.

Your logic is that if it takes 8 years to mess something up, it takes 8 years to fix it. Well that's all good and fine, but Obama hasn't been fixing it. He has added another 4 years to the mess up. Trillions of dollars in debt? Unacceptable. He has only made a bad problem worse. I highly doubt his next four years would be any different.

And for all you people basing your vote off of gay rights, just stop. Not everyone is a gay supporter. I'm sorry but that's how it is. Let me ask you a question. Let's say there is one candidate who completely supports gay marriage but if voted would likely cause our nation's destruction. The other candidate does not support gay marriage but if voted would lead our country out of debt, decline, and recession. Would you really let the issue of gay marriage become a bigger priority than safegaurding the well being and prosperity of an ENTIRE country? Think about it.

[ManyPearTree]

Romney may be good with money, of course he's had it all his life. I doubt he even knows what Ramen noodles are..

[Twilly F. Sniper]

Neither.
Financially- Romney.
Rights- Obama.
Quite the toss-up i think.

[SaxyHaloBeast]

Neither of them can fix our country in 4 years. Neither of them can do it in 8 years. Neither of them will do an outstanding job. Neither of them are that great.

But in this economic crisis, you have to pick the one that is better which is Romney. I know that people are all about 'gay rights' and 'american pride and spirit' and yadayadayada, but that's not what is important right now. If the economy gets any worse, we won't have a country to have pride and spirit for or for gays to have rights in. Abortion? Not important. Let health care decide if they cover it and let people decide if they want it. Issue solved. Gay rights? Leave marriage as a religious instition. Marriage shouldn't be a government issue at all, in fact the constitution doesn't even mention it. You know what? If the government wasn't so deep in control of everything, most of these problems wouldn't even exist. Romney will at least push for less government.

The government shouldn't be a babysitting service. It's a regulatory office.

[fallenLethal]

People won't do what they say because that won't get them elected. People won't do what's right because it's 'not right for our nation.'

People won't elect the ones that want to do the right thing, so I just say fuck it.

[Zenos]

Romney's a Patsey.
Notice he makes good gains then does or says something that sets him back then he struggles and make sup for it in the polls?

I'd rather have Mitty in office but I have a feeling we'll see another 4 of Obumming Obammy in office no matter which way the ballot swings.Whats is the voter fraud they keep talking about thats happening.

[Harry Smith]

The jester1080 you need to reconsider your views on military history. American troops are not fighting al queda directly, they are fighting the taliban which yes have links to al queada but are still a different organistion. The Obama administration killed osama bin laden two years, how many al queada attacks have been carried out since? The reason that american troops are being pulled out is because it is up to the ANA ( afgan national army) to fight the taliban. Nato cannot remain in afganistan for the next 30 years to act as peace keepers. Also do you know the nature of conflict? war isn't that easy.

[Coffee11]

Obama because he knows what the president can and cannot do. He has been in the presidential seat and Romney hasn't. And I know that Romney is against abortion but you can't blame women for not wanting a child. And if abortion was banned then there would be tons of orphans that would probably more miserable alive than dead in heaven.

[Danny_boi 16]

Obama won. This is a great day for America. Now it is time for progress, there is not time for argument. The time of argument died, we as a nation must now move forward. Washington DC can no longer argue, there must be progress.