Log in

View Full Version : What promises has Obama actually kept?


Cicero
August 29th, 2012, 08:32 AM
Cut the Deficit in Half: The Romney campaign and other Republicans have repeatedly pointed out what they consider to be the biggest broken promise – the president vowing shortly after taking office to cut an inherited deficit in half by the end of his first term.
The deficit was $1.4 trillion in fiscal 2009 and is projected to dip to $1.2 trillion this fiscal year, according to the White House budget office. Even in 2013, the budget office projects the deficit will be nearly $1 trillion.*
“The president has not taken any serious action to tame the deficit,” Romney told Fox News on Tuesday. “He has not done what he said was going to do and has left a lot of people in the middle class having difficult times.”
Fix the Economy: Regardless of when the country’s economic problems started, the president also vowed during his campaign to fix the economy in three years. Fourteen months later, he said missing the deadline would make his presidency a “one-term proposition.”
The U.S. unemployment rate has remained above 8 percent for more than three years, despite the president's economic adviser predicting one month into the administration that the president’s roughly $787 billion American Recovery and Reinvestment Act would keep unemployment below 8 percent and reduce it to about 6 percent by this year.
“By any measure, the president’s approach has failed,” Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal said in a recent op-ed for the Tri-Parish Times.
Close Guantanamo Bay: Obama has also so far been unable to shutter the Guantanamo Bay military prison in Cuba, though this is more of a concern for Obama's base than Republicans.*
Obama's effort in 2009 to suspend military commissions in Cuba and his attempt to transfer some prisoners to an Indiana corrections facility were met with opposition from the military and Congress. And last year the president signed a bill that restricted the transfer of prisoners to the U.S. mainland and essentially allows Guantanamo Bay to remain open indefinitely.
Televise Health Care Debate: Obama also said repeatedly in his run for the White House – in TV ads, on the campaign trail and in at least one debate – that the negotiations on his health care reform plan would be televised, if he were elected. However, final health care talks, including the meetings between House and Senate conferees, were held behind closed doors. *
Increase Transparency: Obama once predicted that his administration would have an “unprecedented” level of transparency.
Lobbyists later told reporters they met with administration officials outside the White House in a possible effort to keep them off visitors logs. News agencies and others have complained about the difficulty in getting information through Freedom of Information Act filings. Most recently, the president used executive privilege to keep congressional investigators from getting more Justice Department documents on the agency’s failed Operation Fast and Furious gun-tracking effort. *
"President Obama has run one of the least transparent administrations in American history," Romney campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul said recently. "Whether hiding lobbyists in coffee shops, cutting back-room deals on ObamaCare, or concealing the records of Fast and Furious, President Obama's pledge to be transparent has turned out to be just another broken promise."
Courtesy of Fox News


Those are all, pretty big broken promises. What has he kept?

darkwoon
August 29th, 2012, 10:07 AM
Those are all, pretty big broken promises. What has he kept?
The good question to ask is: why weren't they kept.

Don't pay attention about what politicians promise in electoral campaigns - most promise everything good, with no negative consequence, and point out what their opponents propose as completely bad, without positive effects. This is part of the game - Julius Caesar already played it so.

The only evaluation that matters is the man in its own contemporary context - how he dealt with a changing international environment. What he said or did to reach power is irrelevant, and futile to analyse. They're just the same old tricks used to attract voters to your cause, and galvanize your supporters.

TheBigUnit
August 29th, 2012, 02:59 PM
Romney and ryan wants to cut medicare and spend on military

Twilly F. Sniper
August 29th, 2012, 05:52 PM
Absolutely none. Obama is the worst president in U.S. History besides Richard Nixon. (maybe not...) Romney will be just as bad for different reasons

War-Is-Real
August 29th, 2012, 07:25 PM
Obama has yet to keep a promise.
All of his plans have/will backfire.
Romney has actually done shit, making him the lesser of two evils. FTW

TheBigUnit
August 29th, 2012, 07:53 PM
Absolutely none. Obama is the worst president in U.S. History besides Richard Nixon. (maybe not...) Romney will be just as bad for different reasons

Why do you say Nixon is bad? I mean other than the election scandal

CourtingErmine
August 29th, 2012, 08:38 PM
Why do you say Nixon is bad? I mean other than the election scandal

Watergate just fucked him up. Bottom line, ruined his reputation.

Stryker125
August 29th, 2012, 08:48 PM
Obama Promise Updates:

http://www.politifact.com/search/updates/?q=barack%20obama

Bath
August 29th, 2012, 09:07 PM
You should have asked him on Reddit earlier today. :P

And I think a majority of what Obama planned to do hasn't been done because politics are ALWAYS changing. After scrutinizing every single detail of a situation, odds are you'll change your game plan. It's good to have ideas while campaigning to get your general outlook out there but when it comes time to actually do something, you want to be sure what you're doing is actually right.

huginnmuninn
August 30th, 2012, 12:41 AM
You should have asked him on Reddit earlier today. :P

And I think a majority of what Obama planned to do hasn't been done because politics are ALWAYS changing. After scrutinizing every single detail of a situation, odds are you'll change your game plan. It's good to have ideas while campaigning to get your general outlook out there but when it comes time to actually do something, you want to be sure what you're doing is actually right.

I don't actually get what you are saying. Are you saying that it's ok to lie to the people who are going to be voting for you as long as what you say sounds good. I honestly don't understand

darkwoon
August 30th, 2012, 01:30 AM
I don't actually get what you are saying. Are you saying that it's ok to lie to the people who are going to be voting for you as long as what you say sounds good. I honestly don't understand
It means that what you think possible *now* may not be possible *tomorrow*. So even if a politician is honest when making promises, it doesn't mean he'll be able to hold them in the future. Trying to hold at any cost on a single, rigid line is usually a very bad idea. A good leader is one that can quickly adapt to the circumstances.

Now, as for politicians promising lies... Was it ever different? If you believe in everything politicians say to the public in meetings, on TV, etc, then you're very naive. Electoral meetings exist for a single purpose: gather votes. It is a show, and nothing more. At best, it gives you a rough idea of what the man ideas are.

TheBigUnit
August 30th, 2012, 12:57 PM
Well said

ImCoolBeans
September 9th, 2012, 02:42 AM
OP request. :locked: