Assisted Suicide?

[xDarkAngelx]

What are your thoughts on assisted suicide should it be made legal in the UK? Or not?
Was asking as I've been following some of this story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-19341722
Who lost lost his court case to be able to end his life.

[Human]

he should be able to

[Gigablue]

I think it should be legalized for people with terminal illnesses or with diseases that cause untreatable pain or suffering. Prior to having an assisted suicide, people should have to get multiple doctors to agree that their disease is terminal.

[ECSTASY]

hmm dont knowwhat to say...
but vega, about your signature: why would you guys should be tired of living when you live in europe or any country except iran and other 3rd world countries?!
you have lots of things to do , friendly people, nice schools and...the most important thing, freedom!
the rest of the days that could be awesome for me, got fucked up by just a religion!

[FreeFall]

It should be legal.

Who are we to force a person to live because we have this pretty little idea that they should be grateful for every chance they get to breathe?

[CyanideGoodnight]

Should be legal. It's not murder if the guy wants to die. The last time I checked suicide (In America) Was illegal. Dunno if they changed that, but that's another law I found stupid. Who are we to tell people they can't die? If someone is going to die/ in horrible pain and can't kill themselves then they should be able to have someone else help them.

[Skyhawk]

The last time I checked suicide (In America) Was illegal. Dunno if they changed that, but that's another law I found stupid.

Still is, but I don't see how we can punish a dead person. ;)

The thought process for why suicide is illegal here is because suicide is considered to be murder with yourself being the victim. Nobody has really done anything about the law and suicide rates probably won't change even if it were removed.

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I do believe that someone in Tony's case or with a terminal illness should be able to end his/her life if they wish so they wouldn't need to suffer.

[PinkFloyd]

If he doesn't feel that he doesn't want to live anymore then he should be granted death as his decision. Sure it's a sad thing, but no one else should choose something like that for another grownup...

[Cicero]

This really makes me mad. Because think about being his kids, if I were them. I would think that my dad didnt really love me. If I were him, I would suck it up and just enjoy being with my kids and wife. I woud vote against assisted suicide. It shows how much he loved his kids and wife if he wanted to die after a stroke (which btw thousands of people suffer through, but dont kill themselves cause a road bump comes their way, my mom used to be a nurse to a guy who ended up having a stroke, half paralyzed and not much brain functin. he was the kindest old man i could have met. yet he stayed strong)

To the guy who neg repped me:
So what she stood by him. Do you think she was excited for him to do that? do you think that she was perfectly fine with it? Id hope to God that my wife would argue and battle for me to stay alive. And not just say "ok hunny, whatever you want :)". Id hope she begged and argue to have me keep my life. Oh, and one more thing. leave your name when you do rep.

[Gigablue]

This really makes me mad. Because think about being his kids, if I were them. I would think that my dad didnt really love me. If I were him, I would suck it up and just enjoy being with my kids and wife. I woud vote against assisted suicide. It shows how much he loved his kids and wife if he wanted to die after a stroke (which btw thousands of people suffer through, but dont kill themselves cause a road bump comes their way, my mom used to be a nurse to a guy who ended up having a stroke, half paralyzed and not much brain functin. he was the kindest old man i could have met. yet he stayed strong

If you were one of his family members, would you rather he stay alive and suffer, having a terrible quality of life, or be able to die, on his own terms, with dignity and no pain? How is choosing to die being weak? It must be a very difficult decision. No one should be forced against their will to live.

[Mortal Coil]

It should be legalized. People should choose whether they honestly think their life is worth living, and especially if they need a doctor's help to end it, then it should be their decision.

[FreeFall]

This really makes me mad. Because think about being his kids, if I were them. I would think that my dad didnt really love me. If I were him, I would suck it up and just enjoy being with my kids and wife. I woud vote against assisted suicide. It shows how much he loved his kids and wife if he wanted to die after a stroke (which btw thousands of people suffer through, but dont kill themselves cause a road bump comes their way, my mom used to be a nurse to a guy who ended up having a stroke, half paralyzed and not much brain functin. he was the kindest old man i could have met. yet he stayed strong)

To the guy who neg repped me:
So what she stood by him. Do you think she was excited for him to do that? do you think that she was perfectly fine with it? Id hope to God that my wife would argue and battle for me to stay alive. And not just say "ok hunny, whatever you want :)". Id hope she begged and argue to have me keep my life. Oh, and one more thing. leave your name when you do rep.
Why can't the family just suck it up and let him make his choice? He's an adult. If they truly loved him they'd respect his decision, understand he's in agony. He's trapped in his own body, that wasn't a life he wanted to live that wasn't a life to him at all. But just because he's married and his adult children he's supposed to sit there paralyzed unable to even touch them on his own and be overjoyed? It's not about the wife, or the kids and how they feel either. It's about the man forced to live against his will.
I'm sure his wife put up a mighty struggle to understand him and persuade him from his choice but to stand by his side she did what lovers do, support a choice they made for themselves that they feel strongly about. Just because he's alive doesn't mean he should be crying tears of joy everyday, he already checked out of life. His will to live was long gone and there was no bringing it back, so what good would it have done to the family to take care of a man that just wanted to die? It didn't mean he loved them any less, he did, he just didn't love being in a prison for the rest of his time.

So many people have a stroke. Some of them may want to live, some of them may also want to die. To categorize them all like that isn't fair. My Aunt had a stroke. Lost the ability to talk, could only say A and baby. She had complete function though, she wasn't trapped like this man.

[Cicero]

Why can't the family just suck it up and let him make his choice? He's an adult. If they truly loved him they'd respect his decision, understand he's in agony. He's trapped in his own body, that wasn't a life he wanted to live that wasn't a life to him at all. But just because he's married and his adult children he's supposed to sit there paralyzed unable to even touch them on his own and be overjoyed? It's not about the wife, or the kids and how they feel either. It's about the man forced to live against his will.
I'm sure his wife put up a mighty struggle to understand him and persuade him from his choice but to stand by his side she did what lovers do, support a choice they made for themselves that they feel strongly about. Just because he's alive doesn't mean he should be crying tears of joy everyday, he already checked out of life. His will to live was long gone and there was no bringing it back, so what good would it have done to the family to take care of a man that just wanted to die? It didn't mean he loved them any less, he did, he just didn't love being in a prison for the rest of his time.

So many people have a stroke. Some of them may want to live, some of them may also want to die. To categorize them all like that isn't fair. My Aunt had a stroke. Lost the ability to talk, could only say A and baby. She had complete function though, she wasn't trapped like this man.

So if the same thing happened to your mom, you would just go "Alright mom. Im perfectly ok with this decision and it doesnt both me one bit!" Also, I do not understand why he couldnt have fought to help himself with his motor skills or whatever he needed help with. My friend was told that he will never walk again after the spine and brain cancer. Now, he is starting to walk slowly, that itself is a miracle (although some people on here dont believe in miracles and say that it happens to everyone, but whatever). Several doctors told him he will never walk again. Who knows what this guy couldve achieved. If he put hard work into it. So basically, this argument is teaching me "When life gets hard... Quit" When I was born, I was told I WONT live past 15, Im 17. My respiratory doctors told me my lung function will never be that of an average person without my disease. Now, with hard work and progression, its BETTER than an average person. Because of hardwork and determination, me and my friend both, have been able to achieve the 'impossible'. I believe that nothing is impossible, if you weigh 400 pounds. Its possible to achieve that dream six pack that you may want. All you need to do is work hard at it. But obviously, no one else believes this.

[FreeFall]

So if the same thing happened to your mom, you would just go "Alright mom. Im perfectly ok with this decision and it doesnt both me one bit!"
Funny you ask that since my mom's trying to prevent a stroke and get her blood pressure back to normal. Being that she's a hardcore Christian it'll be hard to imagine that ever occurring but yes, I'd fight for my mom's choice to die.
My mom's an adult. She's a big girl and a nurse, so she's seen strokes and all kinds of dying people, those that want to live but can't, she'll have really had to think her choice over. And I have to respect that. My mom, for 18 years, has raised me to strongly believe in myself and choices. She's supported all of them, never questioning me always having my back, so I can only respect and value her's. I've had 18 years with my mom with her happy. I'd rather keep those 18 years in my memory than force her to stay alive for the rest of her life. I'd rather my happy mom be in my mind than the one that would only resent everyday because she's forced to be here. Yes I'd be upset, yes I'd rather her not die but what good would it do me to be able to say "I'm going to see my moooommmyy" when she'd rather not be around?

The point is, people are going to be bothered. No one wants their loved one to die even if it's better for them. It makes us sad, and we hurt, and we grieve and all of that's ok. No one's saying the family doesn't have those rights. Not sure why you're saying the family should act like everything's hunky-dory, or anyone for that matter.
But the man should be able to decide he no longer wants to live.

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Also, I do not understand why he couldnt have fought to help himself with his motor skills or whatever he needed help with. My friend was told that he will never walk again after the spine and brain cancer. Now, he is starting to walk slowly, that itself is a miracle (although some people on here dont believe in miracles and say that it happens to everyone, but whatever). Several doctors told him he will never walk again. Who knows what this guy couldve achieved. If he put hard work into it. So basically, this argument is teaching me "When life gets hard... Quit" When I was born, I was told I WONT live past 15, Im 17. My respiratory doctors told me my lung function will never be that of an average person without my disease. Now, with hard work and progression, its BETTER than an average person. Because of hardwork and determination, me and my friend both, have been able to achieve the 'impossible'. I believe that nothing is impossible, if you weigh 400 pounds. Its possible to achieve that dream six pack that you may want. All you need to do is work hard at it. But obviously, no one else believes this.
That's fine. You don't have to understand him. No one can understand but his loved ones, himself, and those that have been in a situation similar. This man was not your friend, this man was not you stop comparing yourselves, everyone's an individual. This is not the lesson of the story and for you to try and make him one of those "Kids I overcame my disabilities..." is rather sickening to me. Don't expect everyone that loses something to become a valuable teacher of life. You're missing the point. Good for you and your friend, good that you two overcame, the point is you guys had the will to live. You say life, you saw you could live it. This man, as I've said before, saw no life. So don't call him a quitter, the game was already over for him.

[Cicero]

Funny you ask that since my mom's trying to prevent a stroke and get her blood pressure back to normal. Being that she's a hardcore Christian it'll be hard to imagine that ever occurring but yes, I'd fight for my mom's choice to die.
My mom's an adult. She's a big girl and a nurse, so she's seen strokes and all kinds of dying people, those that want to live but can't, she'll have really had to think her choice over. And I have to respect that. My mom, for 18 years, has raised me to strongly believe in myself and choices. She's supported all of them, never questioning me always having my back, so I can only respect and value her's. I've had 18 years with my mom with her happy. I'd rather keep those 18 years in my memory than force her to stay alive for the rest of her life. I'd rather my happy mom be in my mind than the one that would only resent everyday because she's forced to be here. Yes I'd be upset, yes I'd rather her not die but what good would it do me to be able to say "I'm going to see my moooommmyy" when she'd rather not be around?

The point is, people are going to be bothered. No one wants their loved one to die even if it's better for them. It makes us sad, and we hurt, and we grieve and all of that's ok. No one's saying the family doesn't have those rights. Not sure why you're saying the family should act like everything's hunky-dory, or anyone for that matter.
But the man should be able to decide he no longer wants to live.

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That's fine. You don't have to understand him. No one can understand but his loved ones, himself, and those that have been in a situation similar. This man was not your friend, this man was not you stop comparing yourselves, everyone's an individual. This is not the lesson of the story and for you to try and make him one of those "Kids I overcame my disabilities..." is rather sickening to me. Don't expect everyone that loses something to become a valuable teacher of life. You're missing the point. Good for you and your friend, good that you two overcame, the point is you guys had the will to live. You say life, you saw you could live it. This man, as I've said before, saw no life. So don't call him a quitter, the game was already over for him.

im confused when you say the highlighted part.

[Jess]

I think it should be legal. especially for someone with a terminal illness, and/or they want to end all the pain. They should be able to make their own decision in when they want to die. It's their life, no one else's

[Manjusri]

I have mixed feelings about this topic for a couple of reasons.
Logically yes, a person should have the right to commit suicide, however they want. It is their body, they are an individual, therefore they have the right to make any kind of life changing (or ending) decision they wish.

If someone is considering suicide, i believe they should go through some sort of 'process'.
Step one being therapy. If you are considering suicide you should be directed to the best suited therapist for you. Upon completing treatment, if you still feel suicidal, your life is in your hands.

If he/she has a terminal illness, they should have the right to end their life whenever and however they wish.

The only reason why i included the therapy process is due to a survey that was taken.. i don't know, maybe a few years ago. (don't remember off the top of my head, if i find the article i'll link it) Found it (http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/06/magazine/06suicide-t.html?pagewanted=all)
A reporter for the new york times did an article involving suicides via the golden gate bridge. He interviewed the survivors. (again i don't remember how many)

The result? Every survivor who he had interviewed said the same exact thing. That every problem they had wanted to end their life because of, was meaningless. Worthless little problems that they had allowed to control their life, take over their mind set, and eventually drive them to ending it all.
Right before each person hit the water they reported a life changing realization. Every. Single. Person.

“I’ll tell you what I can’t get out of my head,” he told me in his San Francisco living room. “It’s watching my hands come off that railing and thinking to myself, My God, what have I just done? Because I know that almost everyone else who’s gone off that bridge, they had that exact same thought at that moment. All of a sudden, they didn’t want to die, but it was too late. Somehow I made it; they didn’t; and now I feel it’s my responsibility to speak for them.”
--Kevin Hines, 19 year old attempted suicide survivor.

So in my eyes, most suicide victims must have some kind of realization. Maybe they made a mistake, maybe they didn't want to end their lives. For me that's enough for a therapy session, just to make sure the decision your making, is really what you want.

Suicide should be legal, with very, very, strict regulations.

[FreeFall]

im confused when you say the highlighted part.
I say that because you made it sound as if he was supposed to be a teacher. Like after he became paralyzed it was his duty to talk to the world about how to overcome this, how to keep on living. This man owed nothing of the sort.

[Gigablue]

So if the same thing happened to your mom, you would just go "Alright mom. Im perfectly ok with this decision and it doesnt both me one bit!" Also, I do not understand why he couldnt have fought to help himself with his motor skills or whatever he needed help with. My friend was told that he will never walk again after the spine and brain cancer. Now, he is starting to walk slowly, that itself is a miracle (although some people on here dont believe in miracles and say that it happens to everyone, but whatever). Several doctors told him he will never walk again. Who knows what this guy couldve achieved. If he put hard work into it. So basically, this argument is teaching me "When life gets hard... Quit" When I was born, I was told I WONT live past 15, Im 17. My respiratory doctors told me my lung function will never be that of an average person without my disease. Now, with hard work and progression, its BETTER than an average person. Because of hardwork and determination, me and my friend both, have been able to achieve the 'impossible'. I believe that nothing is impossible, if you weigh 400 pounds. Its possible to achieve that dream six pack that you may want. All you need to do is work hard at it. But obviously, no one else believes this.

The person in the article was suffering from locked in syndrome. No amount of willpower and determination could get him to regain use of his body. Some diseases may be curable with work, but not all. Suppose someone has terminal cancer that has resisted treatment, they are in constant pain and want an assisted suicide. Would you tell them to suck it up and work harder?

You say nothing is impossible and hard work can achieve anything. If that's true, is anyone who's sick just too lazy to work hard?

[Cicero]

The person in the article was suffering from locked in syndrome. No amount of willpower and determination could get him to regain use of his body. Some diseases may be curable with work, but not all. Suppose someone has terminal cancer that has resisted treatment, they are in constant pain and want an assisted suicide. Would you tell them to suck it up and work harder?

You say nothing is impossible and hard work can achieve anything. If that's true, is anyone who's sick just too lazy to work hard?

Well, my disease is incurable. People believe that my disease will never have a cure, and its a deadly painful death. People with my disease will experience deterioration of the lungs to the point of them having to stay alive in a hospital. I believe I hold a little bit more of experience than most people do. With my disease, you can never stop it, you can only slow it down. So I'm sure once you get to a certain point with anything, you cant do anything. Like the final stages of my disease, no one can do really anything to save someone (except a life saving double lung transplant), or final stages of cancer or any other deadly condition.
I wasn't really adressing that man who had the stroke, im adressing people who have a deadly condition or life changing event, that they shouldnt seek the easy way out. They shouldnt just wanna die, especially if they have loved ones and family. With hardwork, a lot can be done to prevent, slow down, or even cure a certain condition or disease. Like with me and my lungs, or my friend who was told by every doctor that he will never walk, or like thousands of others out there who work hard.
If my dad had a certain illness where he wanted assisted suicide, I would do everything in my will and power to stop it from happening. Sure, you may call it selfish, but I would call it loving my dad and not wanting him to leave his family early. I'm just putting me and the place of those kids, and how I would feel and what I would do.
Its kinda like the story of my dads friends, they were a pretty happy family from the outside. Then, suddenly, the mom and wife got a gun and and shot it at her own head. After this horrific event, the dad and kids were devastated. Then, after a few months, the kids came home to find their dad had hung himself in the backyard (true story). If I were those kids, I would think my parents didn't really love me. You can easily say, that the dad and kids were emotionally and mentally devastated and was in pain. But no matter what, that father shouldn't have commited suicide from it, but rather worked through it with his 2 kids.
So what I'm saying, is that father in the article, should've wanted to spend his last days on earth with his family. My dad has told me countless times that he would never kill himself if his time was already at an end and he was in pain (weve had this similiar convo) and I said good you better not.
So sorry for thinking that he shouldnt wanna do that. I also put myself in the place of him, I also think of me being a father and thinking what I would do if I were in his situation. And I would never leave my family to early because I'm in pain. Because, I have a higher chance of knowing how that might feel, more so than many others because of my condition. If I do not get a double lung transplant in my 30-50s I wills surely die, an agonizing and painful death. I will experience my lungs being eaten away by bacteria (which I couldnt control cause its apart of my disease, but its something that makes me depressed so I dont think much about it).

So overall, its just something that I would do. I was putting how I would feel if I were those kids and father. Im not saying that everyone should just suck it up, but I'm sure, that with a lot of conditions out there, there are 3 ways it can be approached, it could either be cured, it could be prevented, or it could be slowed down. Im sure each one of those 3 approaches takes hard work, like if you have a lung disease, try strengthening your lungs, if you have a heart problem, strengthen your heart. If you have a brain injury, try to relearn all that you might have lost. There are hundreds of millions of people who could easily say 'I quit', but they shouldnt just quit. I know I wont quit.

[Truth]

Is this a real question? Assisted suicide exists already, you just need a friend willing to help you out.

If people want to kill themselves, let them. We definitely don't need more humans.

[loop15]

should be able to but have to go threw lots of thingy to say yes

[Gigablue]

Well, my disease is incurable. People believe that my disease will never have a cure, and its a deadly painful death. People with my disease will experience deterioration of the lungs to the point of them having to stay alive in a hospital. I believe I hold a little bit more of experience than most people do. With my disease, you can never stop it, you can only slow it down. So I'm sure once you get to a certain point with anything, you cant do anything. Like the final stages of my disease, no one can do really anything to save someone (except a life saving double lung transplant), or final stages of cancer or any other deadly condition.

You might have a disease that can be affected by willpower, or you may think it can, but not all diseases can be. In fact, I don't think there is any evidence that any serious desiase can be significantly affected by willpower.

I wasn't really adressing that man who had the stroke, im adressing people who have a deadly condition or life changing event, that they shouldnt seek the easy way out. They shouldnt just wanna die, especially if they have loved ones and family. With hardwork, a lot can be done to prevent, slow down, or even cure a certain condition or disease. Like with me and my lungs, or my friend who was told by every doctor that he will never walk, or like thousands of others out there who work hard.
If my dad had a certain illness where he wanted assisted suicide, I would do everything in my will and power to stop it from happening. Sure, you may call it selfish, but I would call it loving my dad and not wanting him to leave his family early. I'm just putting me and the place of those kids, and how I would feel and what I would do.


Some deadly diseases cause severs pain that's almost impossible to treat. Take cancer as an example. In the end stages of cancer, the pain can sometimes be so severe no painkillers can really reduce it. If one of your family members had pain that severe, would you want them to have to suffer through it, or would you want their pain to end, by means of an assisted suicide?

You make it sound like every second spent alive is good and should be cherished, that is true most of the time, but if someone is suffering, why not let them end their life on their own terms, with dignity, to relieve their pain?

If one of my parents had a terminal illness and wanted an assisted suicide, I wouldn't be happy about it, but I would respect their decision. I would rather they be dead than in constant pain. Yes, I would miss them, it I think it's selfish to tell someone they have to live despite pain just because you don't want to live without them.

[Cicero]

You might have a disease that can be affected by willpower, or you may think it can, but not all diseases can be. In fact, I don't think there is any evidence that any serious desiase can be significantly affected by willpower.



Some deadly diseases cause severs pain that's almost impossible to treat. Take cancer as an example. In the end stages of cancer, the pain can sometimes be so severe no painkillers can really reduce it. If one of your family members had pain that severe, would you want them to have to suffer through it, or would you want their pain to end, by means of an assisted suicide?

You make it sound like every second spent alive is good and should be cherished, that is true most of the time, but if someone is suffering, why not let them end their life on their own terms, with dignity, to relieve their pain?

If one of my parents had a terminal illness and wanted an assisted suicide, I wouldn't be happy about it, but I would respect their decision. I would rather they be dead than in constant pain. Yes, I would miss them, it I think it's selfish to tell someone they have to live despite pain just because you don't want to live without them.

I understand. But as for me, under no circumstance would I want my dad to kill himself. If he decided this decision, I would not be alright with it. And I would tell him Im not alright with it.

[LuciferSam]

If someone has a terminal illness that is causing them great suffering, why should they have to continue living if it will only cause them pain? If they want to die, and there's absolutely nothing else that can be done to improve their situation, I don't see a problem.

[Gigablue]

I understand. But as for me, under no circumstance would I want my dad to kill himself. If he decided this decision, I would not be alright with it. And I would tell him Im not alright with it.

I understand, and agree that I also wouldn't want one of my parents to die, but I would rather that they die than suffer. I think that whether the family is happy about someone's decision to get an assisted suicide or not, their opinion is less important and they shouldn't be able to prevent it.

You have every right not to like assisted suicide and to make that opinion known, I just don't think you should have the right to force someone to live against their will. I think that making someone live despite constant untreatable pain is basically torture.

[Paradoxical]

A contentious issue, but I also believe assisted suicide should be legalised. We see people with illnesses who, day after day, awaken to incessant agony until they finally manage to sleep, only for the cycle to begin again the next day. When people have terminal illnesses where they constantly suffer, whether that be with things like terminal cancer or paralysis, they should have the right to end their lives. This action is perceived, personally, as dignified as people should not be forced to hurt day in, day out. However, if the concerned is depressed, then under no circumstances should assisted suicide even be a passing thought - let the NHS' psychiatric wards get to work and if all goes well, things should be made much brighter for them.

[Gandalf]

Well unfortunately overall, the gentleman in the OP article passed away this week, but I think assisted suicide should be legal if there are means to ensure it is the patients wish to pass away. Locked in syndrome was life crippling for him and his family are relieved I think that he is now at peace, even though they loved him dearly.


My two cents.

[bigfoot]

hmm dont knowwhat to say...
but vega, about your signature: why would you guys should be tired of living when you live in europe or any country except iran and other 3rd world countries?!
you have lots of things to do , friendly people, nice schools and...the most important thing, freedom!
the rest of the days that could be awesome for me, got fucked up by just a religion!

that was kinda rude. you (and I) don't know what he has been through. I do agree that we have it good in america, a little too good for our own good.

[xXJust Jump ItXx]

Legalize it... there are instances when its better to do that, than suffering in pain or just suffering because of something.

[Sugaree]

I think this is a question that should be answered in terms of your own morals. Technically, assisted suicide is illegal if you have a Living Will and want the plug to be pulled if you're being kept on life support. The confusing part is that you can't outright say that you want to kill yourself and want someone to do it for you. Really, it's a double standard that shouldn't exist.

I have some problems with assisted suicide, mostly because there's plenty of other options. However, you can't force someone to continue living in pain and suffer. What do you do when one of your pets is too old to see, have trouble walking, or even have a terminal disease? Do you let them continue living each day in pain or do you put them out of that pain via euthanasia?

This reminds me of a scene in "The Green Mile", where Paul Edgecomb asks inmate John Coffey what he (Paul) will tell God why he killed such a wonderful man. Coffey responds that Paul should tell God that it was a mercy execution for the benefit of others. Religious references aside, it makes me think that if we can truly consider ourselves merciful creatures when it comes to putting pets or animals down, can we not also do the same for our fellow human beings? If someone is suffering from brain cancer, what right have I to say that person needs to continue living against their own wishes? This is going to be a major moral dilemma for years to come, and I imagine it will stay that way for a while until something happens.

[FreeFall]

That's a good point Dakota Sadento brought up. When Fluffy's hurting and in awful pain, we begrudgingly put them out of their misery. But when Uncle Joe gets a painful terminal illness and wishes he could die to end his pain, we scream and cry and beg him to continue to suffer...and for our sake's, more than his own. Maybe we're hoping tomorrow they'll find a magical cure and Uncle Joe's terminal illness will be fixed, but we're ignoring the now and everything we can do to put him in a comfortable state.

[LoveMe_HateMe]

I think it should be legalized for people with terminal illnesses or with diseases that cause untreatable pain or suffering. Prior to having an assisted suicide, people should have to get multiple doctors to agree that their disease is terminal.

^ This just says it all. It's wrong that people are forced to live... This may come across wrong but I hope it puts my point out - We as humans put our pets and animals down when they're ill and its un-treatable, to stop them suffering, right? So why not do the same kind of thing with people? If they're quality of living is that bad that they want to die, they should be allowed the dignity of assisted suicide without having to travel to Sweden (or whichever country it is legal in, can't remember if it was Sweden or Switzerland)


hmm dont knowwhat to say...
but vega, about your signature: why would you guys should be tired of living when you live in europe or any country except iran and other 3rd world countries?!
you have lots of things to do , friendly people, nice schools and...the most important thing, freedom!
the rest of the days that could be awesome for me, got fucked up by just a religion!

As for this ^... What? What exactly do we have to do? Apart from work our asses of to only just pay for rent/mortgages/bills. Half the people in this country aren't nice at all, they'd rather save their own asses than help you. The schools aren't that good (well not around here anyway). I don't think we have freedom. It's all political. But then freedom to me is having the right to do what we want, not doing something because we have to, and I don't think this country allows us to do that. Just my opinion.
But back to my point... This is just rude. Do you know the guy? Donn't judge just on what the country is supposedly like. There's a lot of things that people don't know about. I don't have great days either because of religion - I know it's not to the same extent as in Iran and whatnot. Just.. Don't assume things.


/endofrant.