Are girls not into 'gentlemen' anymore?

[teenage-kicks]

Just wondering if girls don't like it when fellas are chivalrous anymore? (Holds doors open for them, lets them walk on the inside of the footpath, give them their jacket when it's cold, compliment them etc.)

And I don't mean being a complete lick arse either, because that just makes you look like a clown. I know there will always be some people who love to have a fella who will treat them like a real lady and everything, but do most girls consider it out-dated and old fashioned? In school I always let the older female teachers walk ahead of me, or offer to carry stuff for them, and they're always delighted. I tend to do it a lot less for the younger women, because they often see it as cheek or blackguarding. Obviously one or 2 are flattered by this and I know the ones to be like that around. Now I'm not a teacher's pet, I'm far from it. I only behave like this because that's the way I was brought up. I didn't have a particularly old fashioned up bringing, but I was always told to treat women like this. Regardless of age or relationship with me. Whether it be my sisters, mother, aunts, grandmothers or just a complete stranger. (At this stage it's engraved on my brain) But none of my friends or classmates seem to have the same attitude towards girls. They don't disrespect them in any way of course, but they just don't do stuff like that for them. I know women never seem to mind, or even notice when men don't be like that, but I always thought it was a nice kind of gesture.

So, is the art of Chivalry dead, and do you think these practices are old fashioned?

[Human]

yeahh girls always seem to prefer "SWAQQQQQQGGGGQQQ" over "class"

[jokermaster101]

So, is the art of Chivalry dead, and do you think these practices are old fashioned?[/QUOTE]

Yes, we are in a new generation where not too many girls care about being around gentleman. they would rather be with some jock with skinny jeans and hats from random teams they know nothing about.
its an unfortunate truth. i thought being sweet and cute would get me somewhere with ladies. only a couple girlfriends.
chivalry is dead, now there is no more respect and girls get pregnant at early ages. the next worse thing next to shuffling

[lou lou]

Well if I had to choose between a gentlemen and a lil puckass I would always choose a gentlemen no matter what. Even if all the gentlemen in the would some how vanish I'd rather die alone. So not all girls like lil puckass pussys. For me I choose TEAM GENTLEMEN!!

[LETSGOJETS]

In my opinion chivalry is not dead. But in the opinion in most of the girls in the United States well it kinda is. In my school, most girls go for the guy who plays sports is skinny who has swag and acts like he's a big shot. Unlike me I have class. I hold the door for girls who need help and i get nothing. I help a girl with her stuff, nothing. While when I one day I wear a snapback because I went to school the last day before springbreak and stupid enough I shaved my head. And all of the sudden girls wanted to talk and Im like. "Hell No get away from me" I have class not swag.

[hedgemor]

For me I choose TEAM GENTLEMEN!!

I like your attitude!:)

[lou lou]

I like your attitude!:)

haha thanks

[EpicXSuprize20]

yupp at least theres one smart girl left^

[lou lou]

yupp at least theres one smart girl left^

Haha aww thanks

[Tucker13]

I know I hate girls that act like that

[Nolf]

I've noticed this sort of thing happening a lot to me too. Swag does not make much sense to me, but it appears to be exactly what a significant amount of girls are looking for. The girl im interested in right now is quite feminist, and thinks the genders should be equal. And even though I can tell she likes it when I hold the door for her and lend her my coat because it common courtesy that should be practiced more often, she also does the same for me.
I think most girls might think it contrived that guys have to prctice these rituals of kindness just to show consideration. In our modern world, there are many other ways of doing that, so I'm still gonna hold the door. I'll just be nice in other ways too. believe me man, the ones who notice your gentlemanliness will be the ones worth going for.

[NotAvailable]

i think it depend on the girl ..... you will always find girls who prefer the gentlemen and others prefer Swags .
like you you will find the dreamy romantic girls and the adventures or realistic girls ... it will always be like this ... all the types are there .

anyhow i believe that the girls who tend to like Swag is more than the girls who like and appreciate the gentlemen.

[Giles]

There never was a time that all women wanted a 'proper gentleman'. Most men used to be that stereotypical gentleman and therefore that's what most women wanted in a man, what women want and what men are go hand in hand and always will. As times change and men become less like gentlemen and women want men like that, because there's more of them.

It's an incredibly simple situation when you think about it, the majority changes to adapt to the other majority. Regardless, there will always be some chivalrous men and there will always be women that want exactly that. Just like there will always be assholes and women that want them.

[DerBear]

I think you might find slightly more relevant answers here.
Puberty for Both :arrow: Relationships and Dating

[FreeFall]

Blegh hate swag. I don't know where you live but we females here hate swag. Those guys are the ones usually found single, the specific reason is their self proclaimed swag.
My bf is a gentleman in his own right. He does typical things, holds door, gives me anything long sleeved when I'm cold even his shirt but most of the time I don't take his shirt, lets me have the last bit of food we're sharing, pays for everything for me unless I insist I pay myself, and kills the spiders (:

[Empty Spaces]

It's kinda hard to find a gentleman nowadays, just like it's hard to find a nice girl. Personally, i don't like popular guys because they are full of themselves, and they're all like "oh i can have any girl i want" Well fuck no, you can't. No matter how pretty and handsome you are, if your personality sucks i don't need you. End of story.

[journey]

i dont like boys that r popular i think the gentlemen r great but i like bad boys they fit my personality i would go with neutral would hold the door for me and let me fight for him am very indepent so badboy

[JayTea]

This would be an awesome topic to poll I think.

I believe it is dead with teens and teen dating. All together? No.

[Love.Hate]

I prefer a guy with a bit of class anyday, my boyfriend is a gentleman and I really couldn't imagine dating someone who is the complete opposite. In this day and age I personally find it harder to find guys like him As everyone has gone the other way and wants this 'swag', the popularity. I cant stand the stupid fashion and how big headed some of them seem to be, not my type of guy.

[monkey2]

I've offered my jacket when it's cold to a girl and done this stuff and got rejected by her.

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[AXZ34e81b949e]

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[roger that]

Hey, man I don't know if its dead or not but I will always be a gentlemen, its just me and personally I'm glad I don't got "swag" cuz those guys just seem to be assholes

[xXJust Jump ItXx]

In my opinion chivalry is not dead. But in the opinion in most of the girls in the United States well it kinda is. In my school, most girls go for the guy who plays sports is skinny who has swag and acts like he's a big shot. Unlike me I have class. I hold the door for girls who need help and i get nothing. I help a girl with her stuff, nothing. While when I one day I wear a snapback because I went to school the last day before springbreak and stupid enough I shaved my head. And all of the sudden girls wanted to talk and Im like. "Hell No get away from me" I have class not swag.
LETS, basically just said what I was thinking. Im nice and I help girls, I do help my girlfriend all the time with things and she loves it that I do! Shes been with a guy before who was like one LETS described and now her comparing me to him she cant believe she liked him.

[Kirsi]

Not many people are like this anymore and I think that's sad. My boyfriend is just like you in that way though and I really like it about him. At first I did think that he was trying to be silly but he explained to me it's how he was raised and I have been around him long enough now that I just know that's how he is :)

[azorne]

blegh hate swag. I don't know where you live but we females here hate swag. Those guys are the ones usually found single, the specific reason is their self proclaimed swag.
My bf is a gentleman in his own right. He does typical things, holds door, gives me anything long sleeved when i'm cold even his shirt but most of the time i don't take his shirt, lets me have the last bit of food we're sharing, pays for everything for me unless i insist i pay myself, and kills the spiders (:

Where do you live? Tell me quick, I already have the movers on the phone. ;D

[Eloise]

Don't worry, I don't think I am the only one who likes witty gentlemen :P Do kindly persevere in your profession sir.

[teenage-kicks]

...this is a 'thing'?

That is probably the most basic of all courtesies over here. You're considered a real prick if you don't do that, even if you were one of these 'swag' fellas. It doesn't seem to be like that anywhere else though.

I just do most of these things for most people anyway, as common courtesy. I suspect that many women think this kind of stuff is really patronising or overbearing if you go way out of your way to do it or if you do it too often, though.
Ya I know, many women find it sexist when you do stuff like that for them... Some people take the piss with it though and go too far.

[ForeverSecretive]

In Ireland, me and my close friends would all choose a gentleman any day. I remember a group of us at the Gaeltacht (it's where we go to study Irish the way non-English speaking students come over here for English) were pier jumping and the guy my friends and I were talking to was taking off his clothes to get ready to jump in, so I offered to mind his clothes. He gave me his jacket to hold and told me to wear it if I got cold. Literally all my friends just said "awww" and went around telling the other girls, who also awwed. It was so cute and sweet!

Yeah sure, a guy with "swag" is cool, but more than half of them look like idiots. I prefer down to Earth guys, who would be sweet and chivalrous. It's one of the cutest, most attractive things ever!

EDIT: That being said, the girls who go around wearing bandeus and hotpants all the time, would rather go for guys with "swag."

[Truth]

True facts: Women do not like gentlemen.

Women want something they can chase after, something they can't obtain. Never give her your love, or your all... and she is all yours.

[FreeFall]

True facts: Women do not like gentlemen.

Women want something they can chase after, something they can't obtain. Never give her your love, or your all... and she is all yours.
I think that's a very silly thing.
If I was aware my boyfriend wasn't giving me his love or 100% of himself/to this relationship I'd be out faster than you could blink. Why should I waste my time if he's going to hold back and be an selfish ass?

[Truth]

I think that's a very silly thing.
If I was aware my boyfriend wasn't giving me his love or 100% of himself/to this relationship I'd be out faster than you could blink. Why should I waste my time if he's going to hold back and be an selfish ass? Selfish? Oh no, that's not what I mean at all. I know what I'm talking about, as I have quite a bit of experience with women. I've even done my own tests.

To one girl I'll flirt constantly, suggest we go out, be a pervert, and not even put in my full effort in the convos.

To one girl I'll listen to all of her stories, talk about what she likes, do things she enjoys, and hangout with her every chance I get.

Know which girl ended up being easy to get, and which one ended up dating another guy after I said I liked her? :yeah:

I know as a woman you think you know what you want, but you truly don't. At our age women just do not know what they want, so they'll go for the most challenging project, they want that bad guy so they can try to fix him. They do not want the boring guy who's got his life altogether and actually shows his feelings, as she knows she can still get him later.

I wish it weren't that way, but it is. There's very few exceptions. Being a selfish asshole is completely irrelevant, I can be a gentleman and still not put in 100% into conversations.

[Foamy]

True facts: Women do not like gentlemen.

Women want something they can chase after, something they can't obtain. Never give her your love, or your all... and she is all yours.

In your world, Maybe. But I think in most other parts f the world, I would love to see more chivalry.

[Truth]

In your world, Maybe. But I think in most other parts f the world, I would love to see more chivalry. Are you a female? No my friend, you are not. May I ask just how many women have you been able to get willing to sleep with you?

I mean no offence of course, but the simple fact is women do not like chivalry, honor, or any of that. You need to act a lot more flirty, perverted, and pre-occupied when around women for them to take interest as a teenager.


There is already a lot of chivalry, and the only thing it'll get you is a good relatiponship when you're 18-25 years old. It's not going to get you someone to be with at this age.

[ForeverSecretive]

To one girl I'll flirt constantly, suggest we go out, be a pervert, and not even put in my full effort in the convos.

To one girl I'll listen to all of her stories, talk about what she likes, do things she enjoys, and hangout with her every chance I get.


It sounds to me as if you made it very well known to the first girl you fancied her, so she would of gone out with you and wouldn't of led you on. To the second girl you were much more of a friend. Were you ever romantic with her? Were you even sure at first that the girl fancied you?

I'm not trying to sound bad, cheeky, condescending or anything like that here. I'm just interested in know. I'd bore you with the scientific stuff about this - such as why your results are unreliable with a high possibility of error, but school starts in a week or so. I don't want to be doing that yet! :L

[Immortal Love]

I personally am very into the gentlemanly ways. I know many of my friends are too. We hate that phrase "Swag". Just like YOLO. We aren't into the Douchy style most guys have. We like our men in nice clothes, not looking like a hipster or gangster. We want them in like nice dress clothes kind of, when they take us out.

There are still untainted souls out there that enjoy courtesy, kindness and a true "loved" feeling.

[Truth]

It sounds to me as if you made it very well known to the first girl you fancied her, so she would of gone out with you and wouldn't of led you on. To the second girl you were much more of a friend. Were you ever romantic with her? Were you even sure at first that the girl fancied you?

I'm not trying to sound bad, cheeky, condescending or anything like that here. I'm just interested in know. I'd bore you with the scientific stuff about this - such as why your results are unreliable with a high possibility of error, but school starts in a week or so. I don't want to be doing that yet! :L Of course, I would sit really close, always share with her, and ask her to come out with me to places. Would usually end up with her making up an excuse, even though I was always a gentleman and very nice to her. She just was not interested, it did not pique her interests like a more mysterious and interesting guy who has too much time for her would.

It is a high possibility of error, but that's just one example. Out of every time I've witnessed, this is always the end result. Women prefer a man who can challenge them, they do not want to sit there bored just talking about the same old thing. Also yes I know I could have gone further with the first girl, but really it was just more of a test... I'm pretty asexual.

To be honest, even the dumb ass drug dealers I know who couldn't finish high school have amazingly beautiful girlfriends who attend college. Why? Because the dude lives a dangerous life and doesn't give a fuck about rules, and she's never the most important thing. I've even seen them cheat on their girls with multiple women, and the woman ends up begging for him back.

As I said, when people get older they know what they want. Right now we have no idea!

[FreeFall]

I know as a woman you think you know what you want, but you truly don't.
"As a woman" I am fully capable of knowing what I want and what I need. No one can tell me otherwise but myself.

At our age women just do not know what they want, so they'll go for the most challenging project, they want that bad guy so they can try to fix him. They do not want the boring guy who's got his life altogether and actually shows his feelings, as she knows she can still get him later.
Ah that explains it. I'm 18, not in your group. Girls your age may be immature enough to want that "boy to fix". I never ever in all my dating years wanted a boy to "fix". I knew exactly what I wanted and needed; a guy that knew where he was going, had a good head on his shoulders, and commit himself to me 100%. I got that in my Bf, any issues he and I come across we get through together. Even if the issues are individual issues, because that's our relationship. 50-50 each way. The only project I'm interested in is us being together and merging our lives. If he shows me even for a second he's holding himself back from me, I'm gone.

I wish it weren't that way, but it is. There's very few exceptions. Being a selfish asshole is completely irrelevant, I can be a gentleman and still not put in 100% into conversations.
That's true, there are exceptions but what you're saying is your reality. It is not mine, happily, but still in my opinion a guy that gets a girlfriend that he refuses to be 100% with, is a selfish asshole. That's still just my own opinion (:

[Truth]

"As a woman" I am fully capable of knowing what I want and what I need. No one can tell me otherwise but myself.


Ah that explains it. I'm 18, not in your group. Girls your age may be immature enough to want that "boy to fix". I never ever in all my dating years wanted a boy to "fix". I knew exactly what I wanted and needed; a guy that knew where he was going, had a good head on his shoulders, and commit himself to me 100%. I got that in my Bf, any issues he and I come across we get through together. Even if the issues are individual issues, because that's our relationship. 50-50 each way. The only project I'm interested in is us being together and merging our lives. If he shows me even for a second he's holding himself back from me, I'm gone.


That's true, there are exceptions but what you're saying is your reality. It is not mine, happily, but still in my opinion a guy that gets a girlfriend that he refuses to be 100% with, is a selfish asshole. That's still just my own opinion (: You're 18, so some things I'm saying are irrelevant to you. By the time some people have started planning for college or gotten a job after high school they are completely different people than in grade 10 or 11.

Although, there is many high schoolers who never grow out of being in high school. I know 25 year olds who still like men who treat them like crap, so as I said you're just an exception.

Older women love nice gentlemen, while younger women will like whoever is the most popular, coolest, nicest looking, etc...

And hey, maybe all of the people who read this are exceptions, but I'm speaking about the general public.

[Giles]

Ah that explains it. I'm 18, not in your group.

I'm not getting involved in the little debate between you lot, but I feel the need to point out that this is a ridiculous thing to say. He's 16, not 6. You're about two years older, that's such an insignificant amount it's not worth mentioning.

[FreeFall]

You're 18, so some things I'm saying are irrelevant to you. By the time some people have started planning for college or gotten a job after high school they are completely different people than in grade 10 or 11.

Although, there is many high schoolers who never grow out of being in high school. I know 25 year olds who still like men who treat them like crap, so as I said you're just an exception.

Older women love nice gentlemen, while younger women will like whoever is the most popular, coolest, nicest looking, etc...

And hey, maybe all of the people who read this are exceptions, but I'm speaking about the general public.
That is very true. Some adults can be just as bad if not worse than some teenagers. Oh well regardless, do what works for your life and I wish you luck in your romantic endeavors (:

Giles- I know it seems silly but most 18 year old's brain's differ form a 16 year old's, specifically the frontal lobes.

[justalovestruckteen]

That is very true. Some adults can be just as bad if not worse than some teenagers. Oh well regardless, do what works for your life and I wish you luck in your romantic endeavors (:

Giles- I know it seems silly but most 18 year old's brain's differ form a 16 year old's, specifically the frontal lobes.

The frontal lobe does not fully develop until about the age of 25. But I do agree that it still means an 18 year old has a more develop brain than a 16 year old.

Speaking of swag, a friend of mine is into the bad-boy gangster type. Another friend and her seemed to share exs. Like, she would date a bad-boy than break up and the next month/year the other would date him. XD. Unintentionally though. Anyways to my point; so there is this one guy my other friend dated who is nerdy, sweet, polite, smart..ect, but my friend won't touch him. In fact she hates him. XD. Really ironic. What's even more strange is I fallen for him.

Ok maybe a bad example. XD.

Anyways; Alot of girls, -if not most- do like the swag type, but to an extent. They do not want a guy to be overly abusive, but not to be overly polite and boring too. They like fun guys who can make their life exciting.

Personally, I do like a kindhearted gentleman who is kind to everyone and has morals. Kinda like Brutes from The Tragedy of Julius Caesar. Or (something some of you can relate with) Kendell from Big Time Rush..(But he's like in between though..)

..... And I lost my train of thought now.. XD

[Drew5]

it's not always a choice between a popular guy and a guy having some manners. It possible to find a guy with both

[Dirtbiker199]

Me? Personally I try to do all the things you mentioned. Hold open doors, ask to carry stuff, let them walk on the inside, etc. But I've noticed that not many girls where I live (Southern CA in the middle of a desert ><) like that.. Although I do believe I might have found the girl for me. I am always nice to girls.. and i think that everyone should be. End of story.

And to answer your question about chivalry being dead, well.. very few 16 year old young men are like this, however adults that have been divorced, they may still carry this on.. So no, not completely dead.

[teenage-kicks]

There seems to be a general consensus that it's not dead but it's dying a slow death but there are still a few ladies around who are in to it.

No replies from girls who think the complete opposite though. And we know they exist, in large numbers...

[Zarakly]

I have acted like a gentlemen around the womens also and yet I always get rejected. Maybe it is because of my looks, but idk anyway it's annoying, you hold the door open, help them with their homework even if your doing your own, always have time for them and do anything they need yet they just walk over you and do nothing except go out with the person that does nothing to help them out.

[PinkFloyd]

Well girls think it's really sweet when a guy gives them his sweatshirt if they're cold and don't have one.

[Clawhammer]

It's not very classy to go complaining about how chivalry doesn't get you more girls... It's common courtesy, not an act. It's the way that I was raised, and not something I think to brag about, intentionally or not. I wouldn't call myself a gentleman for it, but I've always believed in courtesy. I don't generally walk on the outside of the sidewalk, since the reasons for that tradition (cars splashing through puddles and buckets being emptied from above windows) seem to have died out. But holding the door for someone behind you or offering the jacket is simple decency.

[teenage-kicks]

It's not very classy to go complaining about how chivalry doesn't get you more girls... It's common courtesy, not an act. It's the way that I was raised, and not something I think to brag about, intentionally or not. I wouldn't call myself a gentleman for it, but I've always believed in courtesy. I don't generally walk on the outside of the sidewalk, since the reasons for that tradition (cars splashing through puddles and buckets being emptied from above windows) seem to have died out. But holding the door for someone behind you or offering the jacket is simple decency.

I wasn't complaining, I was merely asking the question! Of course opinions and tastes will change over the years, that's been happening since time immemorial. I wouldn't call myself a gentleman either, notice how the word gentlemen is in inverted commas. That is the easiest way to describe it.

Also, wtf are you talking about in regards to walking on the outside of the 'sidewalk' (as ye yanks call it) not being there any more. Puddles? Have ye no puddles over in the states any more? Pure and utter bollocks of the highest order is what you are spewing out lad. And at an awful rate too!

You say you don't brag about it (why would you, it's just the way you've been brought up, as many of us have) but you are clearly bragging about it just by saying shite like that! "Oh look at me, I'm being nice to people because I'm just like that, I don't like to brag about it because I'm not like that"
This debate wasn't started because I was wondering why I couldn't get any girls, it was simply asking are these 'common courtesies' becoming less and less common.

And one last thing,
holding the door for someone behind you
You should be letting them through the door first, not holding it behind you... Better luck next time. ;)

P.S. I apologise if I lashed out at you a bit, but I get annoyed when I am falsely accused.

[Ambrosia]

Hell, all I want is a guy who will do that. Lots of girls just want themselves a bad boy, and they go through that for a while before they get fed up with it and it isn't appealing anymore.

I've been there, done that, now all I want is a nice guy who will be sweet and gentlemany.

[the_man_jake]

I believe chivalry to not be dead. I myself do acts of kindness to do the right thing. Anyway what is 'swag' it can be just be a excuse to be an ass to people. Either way i feel that chivalry is the correct way to go so you are not concidered a jerk or an ass. In the way that females may look at this is either they like men that are kind to them or men that act like they own everywhere they walk or everything they see. 'swag' has always been around, who do you think some of the 'bums' are? People with 'swag' whom cant get a good job. So i say that chivalry is verymuch alive and respected by most.

[Roses_Are_Yellow]

Gentlemen for sure. I know too many guys who have "swag" and wear their goddamn snap backs, and then when a girl doesn't want them or breaks up with them, she automatically becomes "ugly" and a "whore". Like this guy I talked to a few months ago, he dressed like you're stereotypical guy who has "swag" but he seemed nice and endearing and a "gentleman". I stop talking to him and now I'm apparently an ugly ho.

I just want to meet one gentleman who doesn't want anything from me in return. (if you know what I mean)He doesn't even have to open doors for me or lend me his jacket, just somebody decent and knows the meaning of respect. I don't know, maybe I'm asking for too much. But seriously, why don't the guys on this thread live near me. I'm sure if I pay close enough attention, maybe I'd find one or two gentlemen around me, but for now I'm stuck in a town filled with snapbacks, sagging, and guys who view girls as sex toys.

[Roses_Are_Yellow]

Lots of girls just want themselves a bad boy, and they go through that for a while before they get fed up with it and it isn't appealing anymore.


Not me..I actually can't stand "bad boys". They make me want to punch somebody. What I've noticed lately, is that I always seem to have crushes on the smart boys in my class. I really don't know what it is, maybe I just find that intelligence is hot..plus also, it seems as though all of the smart boys I know have this boyish charm.. :)

I doubt they'd notice me though... *sigh*

[Jalinta]

Me personally, I prefer the 'gentlemanly' type ;) And a lot of my friends too, especially since it is getting kind of 'rare' these days I guess.. It kinda makes my day when a guy does something really small, but nice for me :)

[the_man_jake]

Gentlemen for sure. I know too many guys who have "swag" and wear their goddamn snap backs, and them when a girl doesn't want them or breaks up with them, she automatically becomes "ugly" and a "whore". Like this guy I talked to a few months ago, he dressed like you're stereotypical guy who has "swag" but he seemed nice and endearing and a "gentleman". I stop talking to him and now I'm apparently an ugly ho.

I just want to meet one gentleman who doesn't want anything from me in return you know (if you know what I mean)? He doesn't even have to open doors for me or lend me his jacket, just somebody decent and knows the meaning of respect. I don't know, maybe I'm asking for too much. But seriously, why don't the guys on this thread live near me. I'm sure if I pay close enough attention, maybe I'd find one or two gentlemen around me, but for now I'm stuck in a town filled with snapbacks, sagging, and guys who view girls as sex toys.

You are not asking much at all, what your asking is commonsence on how to treat a women, sadly, commonsence is not to common.

[Elysium]

It's a turn-on for me, personally. Not that it particularly bothers me if guys weren't to do such things, but I find chivalry to be very attractive and endearing. I can't say why, exactly.

[Danny_boi 16]

yeahh girls always seem to prefer "SWAQQQQQQGGGGQQQ" over "class"

thats really stupid. :mad::confused:

[Elcofan]

I no I hate swag. I try to be classy but they don't like me

[Gazmo]

i would chose a gentleman anyday. my last boyfriend was, but then he cheated on me so i guess he wasnt that nice :L but he was to start with.

[freshkid18]

i have class and swag so i doesnt matter to me

[Clawhammer]

I wasn't complaining, I was merely asking the question! Of course opinions and tastes will change over the years, that's been happening since time immemorial. I wouldn't call myself a gentleman either, notice how the word gentlemen is in inverted commas. That is the easiest way to describe it.

Also, wtf are you talking about in regards to walking on the outside of the 'sidewalk' (as ye yanks call it) not being there any more. Puddles? Have ye no puddles over in the states any more? Pure and utter bollocks of the highest order is what you are spewing out lad. And at an awful rate too!

You say you don't brag about it (why would you, it's just the way you've been brought up, as many of us have) but you are clearly bragging about it just by saying shite like that! "Oh look at me, I'm being nice to people because I'm just like that, I don't like to brag about it because I'm not like that"
This debate wasn't started because I was wondering why I couldn't get any girls, it was simply asking are these 'common courtesies' becoming less and less common.

And one last thing,

You should be letting them through the door first, not holding it behind you... Better luck next time. ;)

P.S. I apologise if I lashed out at you a bit, but I get annoyed when I am falsely accused.

Haha! Sorry if I sounded accusing, lad, but wow... I'm impressed. You can really get going. What I was "bragging about" is that fact that it's not so huge a deal as you guys seem to be making it. You're making it sound like a dogma or something, which is why it got destroyed by the rise of feminism in the first place. It's like saying you're a better person because you never wear shoes inside. And puddles? Really? I don't know about you, lad, but out here, the sidewalk is pretty evenly distributed in that department. You're really picking this apart, aren't you? Same goes for the last bit about doors. Wow. And nice use of accent and vocabulary to make yourself sound even more posh?

[teenage-kicks]

And nice use of accent and vocabulary to make yourself sound even more posh?

In what way? Even more posh? Wtf are you talking about? Go on, give me a few examples of where I am using obscure vocabulary to make myself sound posh, seeing as you brought it up. And as for the accent bit, someone's accent is the way they speak, how can you pick up an accent from reading plain text?

You're some tulip...

[Giles]

Guys, seriously? This thread is not at all about who is more of a gentleman, it's supposed to be to discuss what women prefer. No need for it to become an argument.

[aprilshowers]

I think it's more that guys aren't chivalrous anymore, so girls don't know how to respond. Personally, I would be super happy if a guy were chivalrous with me! I guess all girls are different, but that's my take on the situation

[Nathan Numberless]

Chivalery was great when women couldn't vote... But now they can and we are all equals. What I'm tryin to say is chivalrey is old like the 3g iphone.

[May_Star]

I don't think chivalry will ever expire. Give me a gentleman any day, and I'm the happiest girl in the world!!

[Silicate Wielder]

I try to be gentleman but I fail to do so at times. However I'm not one of those people who won't help a women when she needs it.