Giving money to the homeless... Giving money to the homeless vs pet adoption agencies

[Cicero]

So I personally believe, its not always a good idea to give them actual money. Because they will probably just buy more cigarrettes or alcohol with it. When I get a car, I am going to keep a pack of water with me and some food, instead of actual money. Do you agree or disagree?

Second debate, do you think people should be more concerned about giving money to pet societies such as the ASPCA vs homeless shelters and the homeless? Dont get me wrong, im a huge animal lover. Im a cat and dog lover. But I think people should be more concerned with helping other PEOPLE instead of animals. I believe a persons life is more important than any animals. So whats your opinions? Once again, Im a huge animal and pet lover.

[huginnmuninn]

agree with you about not giving money and giving food and water instead.

I see no reason why a human life is worth more than an animal life so I would give equal money to both animal and human.

[Twilly F. Sniper]

First debate: I agree.
Second debate: They're the same cause for different species and different reasons.

[Cicero]

agree with you about not giving money and giving food and water instead.

I see no reason why a human life is worth more than an animal life so I would give equal money to both animal and human.

So a dogs life, is the same as a human? Wow.

[workingatperfect]

I agree with the first one.

I'm a huge softy when it comes to animals, but I've done a lot of volunteering at homeless shelters too and that can be really sad, especially when you see little kids in there, so I'd say maybe about equal? Another thing, animals can't really help themselves as well as humans can.

[Alliegator]

For both the debates you literally read my mind and I agree with you on both of them :)

[Joshua D. Boggess]

I think the 1st part sounds really smart. I vollunteer at an animal shelter but I would donate more to a homeless shelter cuz I think people are more likely to help feed or take in an animal than a homeless person. The homeless often have mental illnesses and whatnot as well, and finding shelter at night is more difficult for most people than animals. I would donate to homeless shelters more but I think both are very important, the animal shelter i vollunteer at (and temporarily work for) runs mostly on donations.

[Cicero]

I think the 1st part sounds really smart. I vollunteer at an animal shelter but I would donate more to a homeless shelter cuz I think people are more likely to help feed or take in an animal than a homeless person. The homeless often have mental illnesses and whatnot as well, and finding shelter at night is more difficult for most people than animals. I would donate to homeless shelters more but I think both are very important, the animal shelter i vollunteer at (and temporarily work for) runs mostly on donations.

yeah, but as i said, im a huge animal lover. but i dont get how people think humans are equal to an animal.

[huginnmuninn]

So a dogs life, is the same as a human? Wow.

dogs don't destroy the forests, pollute the air or water, and indiscriminately kill thousands of lives for religious and political beliefs. Dogs also would have a harder time providing for themselves since we've bred certain dogs to have absolutely no advantages in the world. We've made many species of dogs completely dependent on humans for survival. We owe it to them to help them live.
I do believe a species existence and life is equal to any other species existence.

[Cicero]

dogs don't destroy the forests, pollute the air or water, and indiscriminately kill thousands of lives for religious and political beliefs. Dogs also would have a harder time providing for themselves since we've bred certain dogs to have absolutely no advantages in the world. We've made many species of dogs completely dependent on humans for survival. We owe it to them to help them live.
I do believe a species existence and life is equal to any other species existence.

humans dont owe a dog anything. dogs live better than the homeless and even better than an entire country (africa). So you would rather save a dogs life, than a human being... hmm ok.

[huginnmuninn]

humans dont owe a dog anything. dogs live better than the homeless and even better than an entire country (africa). So you would rather save a dogs life, than a human being... hmm ok.

It would depend on the dog and the human. If the human was a serial killer that liked to torture his victims then yes I would rather save the dog. If the dog was a vicious dog that liked causing pain to small animals (I've met dogs like that) then I would rather save the human. I believe the lives are equal so it would depend on the individual. Since the homeless and jobless can get gov't assistance I would help the animals more than the humans.

[FreeFall]

I remember my mom, being the good christian she is, gave a homeless man 20 dollars. As we walk away, we hear "shit man this good for dope?" So I totally agree with giving them food and things, and not money.

The second part I disagree. If someone wants to give to the ASPCA instead of a homeless shelter, that is their prerogative. It does not mean they spit on the value of human life. I personally think the gift of life is wasted, so I will be giving what I feel to the ASPCA. It's my money, I'll be spending it where I see fit.

[Cicero]

It would depend on the dog and the human. If the human was a serial killer that liked to torture his victims then yes I would rather save the dog. If the dog was a vicious dog that liked causing pain to small animals (I've met dogs like that) then I would rather save the human. I believe the lives are equal so it would depend on the individual. Since the homeless and jobless can get gov't assistance I would help the animals more than the humans.

Dogs dont really think "Damn i love causing pain to smaller animals" they just do it. Not all homeless get government assistance, you have to have a place to live in order to get government checks. Also, this might come to a shock to you, but not everyone you meet is a serial killer, so thats a stupid comparison.

[Abyssal Echo]

agree with you about not giving money and giving food and water instead.

I see no reason why a human life is worth more than an animal life so I would give equal money to both animal and human.

first off I agree with you

but also agree with Rocky do not give money to homeless people I did once and he went directly to the store and bought alcohol with it. do offer a hot meal, what they say the money is for. give money or volenteer you time to a homeless shelter. Same goes for animal sheters or rescue organizations both places will tell you what they are in need of.

[Guillermo]

humans dont owe a dog anything. dogs live better than the homeless and even better than an entire country (africa).

Ummm Africa is a contienent dude, not a country. And I'd like to see the facts on dogs living better than people in Africa. You're generalizing that Africa as a whole is a poverty-stricken contienent with many diseases. Obviously this is true in SOME parts, but not in all the countries of Africa. There are plenty of middle-class citizens living in the 54 countries of Africa. Don't believe everything that you hear from the media.

And why don't you just give food/money to your local homeless shelter in the first place? I'm sure that the homeless people walking around the streets know where to go to get the food. That makes a whole lot more sense...

[WaffleSingSong]

I agree with you on the first one. Money does not have to feed you, but it can kill you, though! :D And I think it is really hard to kill yourself with chicken and apples, or, well, maybe not apples...

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Second one I also agree with. I mean, do not get me wrong, I have a heart for animals, but I think humans, as they are more smarter and capable, are worth slightly more in the world. However, I would still love to give 100$ to the ASPCA if I had it.

Now, Someone give me some money, I need to get some...uh...sugar...yeah...

[Cicero]

I agree with you on the first one. Money does not have to feed you, but it can kill you, though! :D And I think it is really hard to kill yourself with chicken and apples, or, well, maybe not apples...

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Second one I also agree with. I mean, do not get me wrong, I have a heart for animals, but I think humans, as they are more smarter and capable, are worth slightly more in the world. However, I would still love to give 100$ to the ASPCA if I had it.

Now, Someone give me some money, I need to get some...uh...sugar...yeah...
I just used that animal group for an example. But i actually really dislike them, because i heard they only give $0.01 of every donation they receive to the pet shelters while keeping the rest to their products and for themsevles.

[Electra Heart]

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