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Telkanis
August 10th, 2012, 03:21 PM
Hey, so I debated whether to post this. I don't want it to become a huge argument and comments like OMG Don't aren't helpful.

So apparently my parents want me to get circumcised.

My dad brought it up a few days ago when we were on a camping trip just to two of us. He and my mom talked to my doctor after my physical and she said it was fine if I got circumcised and that now would be the best time to do it. Not sure why now is a good time but oh well. Dad said I wasn't circumcised at birth because I was born prematurely and it was too risky but then they never had a good time to do it.

Initially I was totally opposed and kinda in shock but after talking to friends and people I'm not so sure. I have an appointment on Monday just to get checked out and talk to the doctor who would be doing it.

So guys who are cut, are you happy with it?

If you were in my place what would you do?

My options I guess are
1) totally refuse. Not sure what parents would do. I don't think they'd force the issue but I have to deal with them and could make life miserable (don't know if they would).
2) I could try to talk them out of it and be diplomatic.
3) I could talk to the doctor and try to convince doctor to tell parents it's a bad idea.
4) just do it and accept my dick is going to hurt for a week

Last one is probably the easiest and just accept it but I'm pretty freaked out by the idea of people cutting up my penis. What do you guys think?

minecraftmstr
August 10th, 2012, 03:24 PM
i want to have my foreskin back
dont do it
you wont feel whole
beside any one coming that close to you dick with a blade like that
will get terminated

OregonStateDude
August 10th, 2012, 03:44 PM
Well, I was cut as a baby, so I don't know what it's like to have a foreskin.

But you should ask your parents why they want to have it done. Is your foreskin tight? It's kind of strange they would wait 13 years and spring this on you.

So guys who are cut, are you happy with it?

Well, I don't feel disfigured or anything like that. I'm not pissed off at my parents for their decision to slice me. Not sure if that's the answer you were looking for.

I've heard for intact guys, the head of their prick is really sensitive. Not sure if I would enjoy that; I like being able to last awhile before I "explode".

billia
August 10th, 2012, 04:06 PM
Well, either way, you're going to be able to orgasm. So there's that.

Also, I'm cut, and I think it's just more appealing visually. But that's just my opinion.

I wouldn't if I were you. I would be happy the way I was. As long as you know how to take care of yourself down there, you'll be fine.

Besides, rumour has it that you lose some nerve endings when you lose your foreskin. Which could mean a less powerful orgasm...

Foamy
August 10th, 2012, 04:14 PM
I honestly wish sometimes I wasn't cut at birth. if you like your dick the way it is then try and talk them out of it. It IS your body they wanna cut.

Awesome dude
August 10th, 2012, 04:19 PM
Well, I was cut at birth so I don't know what it's like to have foreskin, but I'm perfectly happy cut. I personally don't believe that you get stronger orgasms when you're uncut because I get some powerful ones and I'm cut. If I was in your position, I would do it. I mean, how many people get to experience both? But seriously, I would do it, how bad could it be?

Hope this helps

andrethaiss
August 10th, 2012, 05:23 PM
I was lucky to have a loose circumcision and i have a very sensitive back side of my penis which i like. Now since every circumcision is slightly different i don't know if doctors keep this part. If i were in your position i would think about what i truly want and if i were to get a circumcision i would ask if it is possible for a loose one, i think it looks nice and keep alot of the "sensitivity" best of luck :D

Tucker13
August 10th, 2012, 05:27 PM
I was cut but it's a very loose cut I would recommend this if you have to get cut. Just tell your parents if I have to get cut make it a loose one

Gigablue
August 10th, 2012, 06:27 PM
Why do they want you to be circumcised? It doesn't really matter, but it's an unnecessary surgery. When preformed as a baby, the recovery if shorter, while if you get circumcised later in life it can take up to six weeks to heal. You also have to abstain from sex/masturbation during that time.

As for sensitivity, I'm uncircumcised, so don't know how it feels to be circumcised. The sensitivity might decrease if you get circumcised.

Medically it doesn't really matter, circumcision can have some health benefits, but they are generally fairly small. The risks are also fairly small. It's not really useful, but not harmful.

Ultimately, it's your choice. You should ask your parents why they want you to get circumcised, as well as talk to your doctor about the details of the procedure. Don't let anyone pressure you into a decision about it.

strokeofluck
August 10th, 2012, 06:59 PM
Hey, so I debated whether to post this. I don't want it to become a huge argument and comments like OMG Don't aren't helpful.

So apparently my parents want me to get circumcised.

My dad brought it up a few days ago when we were on a camping trip just to two of us. He and my mom talked to my doctor after my physical and she said it was fine if I got circumcised and that now would be the best time to do it. Not sure why now is a good time but oh well. Dad said I wasn't circumcised at birth because I was born prematurely and it was too risky but then they never had a good time to do it.

Initially I was totally opposed and kinda in shock but after talking to friends and people I'm not so sure. I have an appointment on Monday just to get checked out and talk to the doctor who would be doing it.

So guys who are cut, are you happy with it?

If you were in my place what would you do?

My options I guess are
1) totally refuse. Not sure what parents would do. I don't think they'd force the issue but I have to deal with them and could make life miserable (don't know if they would).
2) I could try to talk them out of it and be diplomatic.
3) I could talk to the doctor and try to convince doctor to tell parents it's a bad idea.
4) just do it and accept my dick is going to hurt for a week

Last one is probably the easiest and just accept it but I'm pretty freaked out by the idea of people cutting up my penis. What do you guys think?

Hey...I'm 15 and just go circumcised. Like you, I was born prematurely so I didn't have it done at birth. My foreskin never caused me any problems, but I never felt like it was necessary (because it's not). I've been self conscious about myself since I knew that I was different and never was comfortable in locker rooms, etc. I always told everyone what I was cut (even my closest friends) and avoided situations that would have revealed my secret. Sometimes it hurt to j/o and my foreskin sometimes would be uncomfortable, but overall it wasn't horrible and I didn't have phimosis or anything.

This summer, I decided that I wanted to get cut. So I told my parents and went to a urologist a few weeks later. In July, I had the procedure done and I'm pretty happy about it. I showed up at the hospital, got an IV and after answering some questions and seeing my doctor, was wheeled into the OR. I had it under general anesthesia with local numbing. I woke up, had some ice chips and then animal crackers and ginger ale, peed and went home after about 1.5 hours after the surgery was done. I left with pain of maybe a 2 or 3 and a compression bandage around it. When I got home, I took some ibuprofen to help with swelling and six hours later was due for some Vicodin... The next couple of days were uncomfortable, but as long as I took the pain meds on schedule there wasn't any real pain. After about five days, my stitches began dissolving and the incision became a little itchy. By the ninth day, they were all completely gone. Boners caused some pain, but like I said, taking pain meds on schedule every time = no pain that you can't handle. I was comfortable j/o-ing after about 15 days (that's probably the hardest part: horniness).

Overall, I'm happy with the results and I am glad I did it. I think it'll be better in the long run and I have to say that I've experienced more pain (granted, for less time) just irritating my foreskin or frenulum (the cord thing that connects the skin to the head) after jerking it too hard/frequently.

These two forums really helped me make an informed decision and helped me know what to expect:
http://forums.menshealth.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/789103123/m/1451053144/p/1
http://forums.menshealth.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/789103123/m/4681055517

Make the choice for yourself an not others, but believe me it's way better being cut (especially in the USA, where most guys are).

If you have any questions let me know!

FYI: My doctor did a mid (not high or low) circumcision that wasn't tight, but wasn't very loose. I think high and tight is sexy (its what most porn starts have) but basically was told that it doesn't turn out well once are old enough to have erections/to be growing.
TIP: Neosporin on the wound and scabs really helps.

jonjon1998
August 10th, 2012, 08:09 PM
I love being circumcised... I'm really glad that I am....BUT... If I was a teenager and uncut, unless there were some really important medical reason, there's no way I'd get cut now. It makes no sense to me that your parents would suddenly decide to do this 13 years later...

Luke91
August 10th, 2012, 08:49 PM
I was circumcised when I was 13 so I know what it is like both was. In my case, i like everything about being circumcised. If I had it to do over, I would do exactly the same but I would have asked my parents earlier. I suggest you do what your parents want and enjoy the results.

phenol
August 10th, 2012, 09:03 PM
Holy fuck your parents are sick bastards.

If they insist even after you beg not to have it, then run away to a friend's house for a few days or something, that usually makes them feel bad enough to forget.

Do not let people convince you to do it. The few people that will say they like it are the people that are either hyper-religious or were fed lies since they were born and are convinced that it's better. It's not. The STD reduction is bullshit. If you have sex with someone with and STD you get the STD regardless of whether you have a piece of skin covering your dick. It is NOT cleaner, it's an excuse for lazy pricks to not have to retract their foreskin and wash for 2 seconds in the shower every other day.

Don't do it. I'm not going to say it again.

I disagree with people that oppose it but don't agree that it disfigures you. My dick is bent all weird clearly to the tighter side where the dumbass (probably wasted) doctor decided to half ass it on one side and get within an inch of my life on the other. Also, your dick hurts sometimes because underwear will wrap around it or it gets caught in something. There's no way anyone that's sane could think a cut dick looks better.


If you're considering doing it, try this. Retract your foreskin and make sure it doesn't go back over your head ever, for a week straight. That's what it feels like constantly being cut, until your dick becomes a lump of dead skin that has no feeling left.

Don't feel different if you stay uncut, 80% of guys will just envy you in the locker room or wherever, the other 20% are indifferent.

LatinaVivit
August 10th, 2012, 09:08 PM
DO NOT DO IT. Circumcision is disgusting and an absolute violation of your rights! If you do it, you'll absolutely regret it. Be happy you weren't at birth and stay intact and don't let anyone touch you!

The benefits - of which are still under debate - do not come close to the risks and overall experience. You're perfect the way you were made, and don't let anyone convince you otherwise. I hate being cut and it pisses me off every time I think about it.

strokeofluck
August 10th, 2012, 09:09 PM
I love being circumcised... I'm really glad that I am....BUT... If I was a teenager and uncut, unless there were some really important medical reason, there's no way I'd get cut now. It makes no sense to me that your parents would suddenly decide to do this 13 years later...

It extremely reduces the risk of STDs/STIs/HIV/Penile Cancer and a lot more. And also possibly prostate cancer (they don't know for sure yet) so it has tons of long term benefits that anyone would want for their kid. They probably also want to prevent any social issues that he might face (e.g. girls rejecting him because they think foreskin is gross, locker room torment, etc.).

Sebastian Michaelis
August 10th, 2012, 09:15 PM
Honestly, you'd most likely regret getting it done. I could go on and on and rant about this like half the world, but at the end of the day it's your dick not mine. It's up to you and the only thing VT can provide on this is facts, but either way, there isn't a specific benefit or difference to either choice. Despite the fact I said there isn't really a difference, other then the way your dick will look, I say you'll regret it because one of those little insignificant differences is sensitivity. Sensitivity… Well, why would a teenager care about that? Well, do you want your orgasms to be less awesome?

My personal opinion is to not get it done. I'd say try choice 2 first, then choice 3. If they don't work then try choice 1. What would they do, strap you down and force a blade to your dick?

It extremely reduces the risk of STDs/STIs/HIV/Penile Cancer and a lot more. And also possibly prostate cancer (they don't know for sure yet) so it has tons of long term benefits that anyone would want for their kid. They probably also want to prevent any social issues that he might face (e.g. girls rejecting him because they think foreskin is gross, locker room torment, etc.).

Actually, 100% of what you said was a lie. Circumcision doesn't reduce the risk of any of those things. I have plenty of uncircumcised friends that never get rejected or tormented because of it. Actually, the circumcision rate of non-Jewish families in America is declining.

The STD reduction is bullshit. If you have sex with someone with a STD you get the STD regardless of whether you have a piece of skin covering your dick. It is NOT cleaner, it's an excuse for lazy pricks to not have to retract their foreskin and wash for 2 seconds in the shower every day.

EXACTLY

strokeofluck
August 10th, 2012, 09:19 PM
Holy fuck your parents are sick bastards.

If they insist even after you beg not to have it, then run away to a friend's house for a few days or something, that usually makes them feel bad enough to forget.

Do not let people convince you to do it. The few people that will say they like it are the people that are either hyper-religious or were fed lies since they were born and are convinced that it's better. It's not. The STD reduction is bullshit. If you have sex with someone with and STD you get the STD regardless of whether you have a piece of skin covering your dick. It is NOT cleaner, it's an excuse for lazy pricks to not have to retract their foreskin and wash for 2 seconds in the shower every other day.

Don't do it. I'm not going to say it again.

I disagree with people that oppose it but don't agree that it disfigures you. My dick is bent all weird clearly to the tighter side where the dumbass (probably wasted) doctor decided to half ass it on one side and get within an inch of my life on the other. Also, your dick hurts sometimes because underwear will wrap around it or it gets caught in something. There's no way anyone that's sane could think a cut dick looks better.


If you're considering doing it, try this. Retract your foreskin and make sure it doesn't go back over your head ever, for a week straight. That's what it feels like constantly being cut, until your dick becomes a lump of dead skin that has no feeling left.

Don't feel different if you stay uncut, 80% of guys will just envy you in the locker room or wherever, the other 20% are indifferent.

Right, because it's so wonderful when your foreskin is raw, irritated by clothes or gets caught in the netting in swim trunks... Or when it tears during sex (that didn't happen to me, but it happens alot). I've lived 99% of my life uncut and after six weeks being cut, trust me it's sooo much better.

If you don't like your cut, you can get it revised. Or you could always put weights on your dick for a few years and then you can see what it's like having that "piece of skin covering your dick."

andrethaiss
August 10th, 2012, 09:31 PM
DO NOT DO IT. Circumcision is disgusting and an absolute violation of your rights! If you do it, you'll absolutely regret it. Be happy you weren't at birth and stay intact and don't let anyone touch you!

The benefits - of which are still under debate - do not come close to the risks and overall experience. You're perfect the way you were made, and don't let anyone convince you otherwise. I hate being cut and it pisses me off every time I think about it.

How is it a violation of his rights, if he has the right to choose if he wants to do the surgery?

The Flash
August 10th, 2012, 09:39 PM
I wouldnt want to get circumcised because you lose nerves which = less pleasure.
Some people may say its more hygenic when your circumcised, not true, uncut people just have to pull the skin back and rinse.
heres a good reason! It will hurt :/

Rodeo
August 10th, 2012, 09:59 PM
So guys who are cut, are you happy with it? I am very happy being cut

If you were in my place what would you do? I would get cut

My options I guess are
1) totally refuse. Not sure what parents would do. I don't think they'd force the issue but I have to deal with them and could make life miserable (don't know if they would).
2) I could try to talk them out of it and be diplomatic.
3) I could talk to the doctor and try to convince doctor to tell parents it's a bad idea.
4) just do it and accept my dick is going to hurt for a week

Last one is probably the easiest and just accept it but I'm pretty freaked out by the idea of people cutting up my penis. What do you guys think? Go with option 3 yes it will hurt for a while but it will be worth it in the long run.
Good Luck man.

Gigablue
August 10th, 2012, 10:20 PM
It extremely reduces the risk of STDs/STIs/HIV/Penile Cancer and a lot more. And also possibly prostate cancer (they don't know for sure yet) so it has tons of long term benefits that anyone would want for their kid. They probably also want to prevent any social issues that he might face (e.g. girls rejecting him because they think foreskin is gross, locker room torment, etc.).

Circumcision has been shown to reduce the risk of HIV, though the reduction is moderate. If you use a condom, it doesn't matter. There is no evidence that it prevents other STIs. The reduction in the risk of penile cancer only occurs when infants are circumcised. There is no risk reduction for teenagers or adults. Also, penile cancer is a very rare condition.

There shouldn't be social issues either. I don't see why there would be locker room torment, or why people would think the foreskin is gross.

RunnerRunner
August 10th, 2012, 10:25 PM
dude i just hate dat ur parents want u cut. there like taking part of ur sex life abd throwing it away cause sensitivity will go down and pleasure wonr be the same. anyways if u get cut a circumcision scar may appear. so dude try ur hardest to convince ur parents and doctor dat u dont want to get cut.

LatinaVivit
August 10th, 2012, 10:45 PM
How is it a violation of his rights, if he has the right to choose if he wants to do the surgery?

By that I mean it's a violation of his rights as a man! If his parents forced him to do it, it would be a violation of human rights in addition to that.

phenol
August 10th, 2012, 11:09 PM
Getting cut does not affect STDs or cancer at all. That is complete bullshit. Like I said, if you have AIDS and some other guy fucks you, they're going to get it either way. Cutting millions of nerves and destroying your feeling isn't going to change that. You have options: either don't buy hookers, or wear a condom. And I'm not just talking about uncut, cut too. Women do not care either way, and most gay/bi men I know like uncut way more.
Circumcision has been shown to reduce the risk of HIV, though the reduction is moderate. If you use a condom, it doesn't matter. There is no evidence that it prevents other STIs. The reduction in the risk of penile cancer only occurs when infants are circumcised. There is no risk reduction for teenagers or adults. Also, penile cancer is a very rare condition.

There shouldn't be social issues either. I don't see why there would be locker room torment, or why people would think the foreskin is gross.

Pretty much this. If you get dick cancer, it's pretty treatable and you have just about 0% chance of getting it either way. Cutting off your balls prevents testicular cancer, but you wouldn't do that, would you?

fast8
August 10th, 2012, 11:38 PM
i say do what going make you happy do it for you not for anyone else your the one that has to live with it an deal with

RedViper
August 11th, 2012, 06:55 AM
Apparently being circumcised can decrease pleasure
I'm uncut and I wouldn't get circumcised now.

GaryKTM250
August 11th, 2012, 07:15 AM
Hey, so I debated whether to post this. I don't want it to become a huge argument and comments like OMG Don't aren't helpful.

So apparently my parents want me to get circumcised.

My dad brought it up a few days ago when we were on a camping trip just to two of us. He and my mom talked to my doctor after my physical and she said it was fine if I got circumcised and that now would be the best time to do it. Not sure why now is a good time but oh well. Dad said I wasn't circumcised at birth because I was born prematurely and it was too risky but then they never had a good time to do it.

Initially I was totally opposed and kinda in shock but after talking to friends and people I'm not so sure. I have an appointment on Monday just to get checked out and talk to the doctor who would be doing it.

So guys who are cut, are you happy with it?

If you were in my place what would you do?

My options I guess are
1) totally refuse. Not sure what parents would do. I don't think they'd force the issue but I have to deal with them and could make life miserable (don't know if they would).
2) I could try to talk them out of it and be diplomatic.
3) I could talk to the doctor and try to convince doctor to tell parents it's a bad idea.
4) just do it and accept my dick is going to hurt for a week

Last one is probably the easiest and just accept it but I'm pretty freaked out by the idea of people cutting up my penis. What do you guys think?




Hi

You do not have option 3 - the doc will not just tell your parents its a bad idea.

Maybe circumsision is so common in the US as I assume many docs will earn a fee from it.


I dont think your parents would make your life miserable - maybe its thier culture thing - and maybe they want you to be happy at your new school and all the other boys there wll be cut to. Which I kind of doubt.


Ok I ve had a rough life and I ran away from home due to my Dad beating me

But if you give in to this you will then just give in to more - I think you should decode for yourself - I mean really decide for yourself.

Gigablue
August 11th, 2012, 10:47 AM
By that I mean it's a violation of his rights as a man! If his parents forced him to do it, it would be a violation of human rights in addition to that.

His parents can't force him. A doctor wouldn't preform the surgery of he objected. They preform circumcision without consent for infants, but they would not do it for a teenager.

xXCrazyBoyXx
August 11th, 2012, 10:51 AM
In my opinion i think you should because it looks weird when you dont and if you have a girlfriend she'll probably like it to ;)

OregonStateDude
August 11th, 2012, 10:56 AM
Circumcision has been shown to reduce the risk of HIV, though the reduction is moderate.

I don't want to sound like a dummy here, but how does that work exactly? HIV is in sperm, so how does having a foreskin make any difference?

Gigablue
August 11th, 2012, 10:56 AM
In my opinion i think you should because it looks weird when you dont and if you have a girlfriend she'll probably like it to ;)

Whether or not it will look weird depends on the circumcision rate in his area. It doesn't really seem like a good reason to get surgery, though. You also can't predict how someone else would respond to it.

RunnerRunner
August 11th, 2012, 11:24 AM
i agree with latinavivit.

Nellerin
August 11th, 2012, 11:26 AM
I'm fine being cut but if I had a choice I would keep the foreskin. Girls also like uncut guys more in general but not always. Plus you do lose some nerves when you get circumcised. Just tell them no.

Gigablue
August 11th, 2012, 12:10 PM
I don't want to sound like a dummy here, but how does that work exactly? HIV is in sperm, so how does having a foreskin make any difference?

Circumcision reduces the risk on female to male transmission of HIV during vaginal sex. The fluid from the vagina contains HIV and comes in contact with the foreskin. The foreskin has more T cells, the cells taregted by HIV, as well as less keratin, which can protect against HIV infection. As a result, the foreskin is the usual point of entry for HIV.

Circumcision removes the foreskin, thus eliminating this point on entry. The foreskin that remains is toughened by contact with air and clothing, and develops more keratin. It becomes more difficult for HIV to entre the body.

This can reduce the risk of HIV infection, but it only works for female to male transmission, which is unlikely to begin with, and circumcision is no substitute for a condom or getting tested for HIV.

gig-guy
August 11th, 2012, 02:30 PM
DO ITTTT!!!!!!!
i love being circumcised. its more popular in the USA and its much sexier...
i would totally do it

markus
August 11th, 2012, 04:08 PM
im not cut. There is no way Im getting it cut..
I would think about it for a while if you are going to get it cut. It has to be your decision, and not get it done jst because your parents say you have to have it cut off.

LatinaVivit
August 11th, 2012, 04:23 PM
How about we look at it like this: it's not necessary, it'll take at least 6-8 weeks to heal, you're used to being uncut, so why do it? If it isn't life or death, there's no reason for it.

TimPeters
August 11th, 2012, 04:42 PM
Here in belgium they don't circumize you at birth. My foreskin was to tight, but i had a special circumision. They cut out the "ring" that was to small and with that ring they fabricated a new top part of my foreskin so you dont see i'm circumized.

strokeofluck
August 11th, 2012, 04:51 PM
How about we look at it like this: it's not necessary, it'll take at least 6-8 weeks to heal, you're used to being uncut, so why do it? If it isn't life or death, there's no reason for it.

Just got cut this summer. Took me a week to loose the stitches. Took me about 2.5 weeks to j/o. Definitely not six weeks and totally worth it.

PinkFloyd
August 11th, 2012, 04:58 PM
Well my gf, Mariah has told me that she likes the look of it more than uncut ones she's seen around the internet. She says it looks cleaner and more attractive. But I Think I would like to have a whole dick. If this was my situation, I would go with 1. But that's my personal preferance. Do what you think is best.

Best of luck - Rob :)

Telkanis
August 12th, 2012, 12:07 PM
Hey everyone, thanks all the advice. Couldn't sleep much last night because it was thinking it over. I'm not going to make any decisions until after my appointment monday. I'll talk to the doctor about it first and then decide if I need to talk parents.

Nayef
August 12th, 2012, 12:41 PM
I am cut from birth like all here where i live and for me its fine :-)

flypower191
August 12th, 2012, 01:04 PM
ughhhh just on the internet and saw this page.. but hey my parents want to do the same thing and i was like hell no but i have yet not decided

chetbonare
August 12th, 2012, 01:44 PM
I was cut at birth (me and all my bros were) and I like it myself. I'm happy

hockeyguy23
August 12th, 2012, 03:46 PM
I saw your post and I thought I would register here and answer your question. First off, I find it bizarre that you father would wait 13 years and all of sudden ask whether you want to get circumcised. After 13 years of no problems, you would think that you would not need unnecessary surgery. If I were you, I would cancel this appointment right away unless you are having problems with your foreskin. If no problems, no intervention needed, as simple as that.

A foreskin is part of normal penile anatomy. With circumcision, you will be subject to all of the complications of surgery (yes, circumcision is surgery that is 99.9% of time completely unnecessary), not to mention possible later life complications including decreased sexual pleasure, erectile difficulties, etc. Penile surgery is serious business and even though a circumcision is a generally simple procedure, even simple procedures can and do go wrong all the time. I can't stress this enough! The so called benefits of circumcision are statistically insignificant. There are no differences on a population level between European countries (low circumcision rate) and the US (high circumcision rate) in regards to STDs, cancer, etc. So, don't buy into the bull circumcision will protect from a whole host a medical maladies. It's simply untrue. And of course in the US circumcision rates are dropping fast everywhere.

Lastly, at 13, you are simply not mature enough to make this type of decision (which is why I am shocked by your father's position). Feel free to pm me if you want additional information/resources. This is a question that you are much better off posting on medical websites, other forums, where you have adults who are more informed in these matters. I hope this helps.

Abyssal Echo
August 12th, 2012, 04:02 PM
I would not do it. my father was circumsized and hated it thats why I'm uncut.

I am very happy the way I am.

ryanhas4skin
August 13th, 2012, 08:17 AM
Dude,

I am going to strongly encourage you NOT to get circumcised. You could really regret it later, and there's no way to undo it once it's done. You're suck with it.
If you feel you might want to get circumcised, take your time, research it. Wait a year. There's no hurry, and could really regret it later

Circumcision is simply a cosmetic surgery with no medical benefits, and yet it permanently alters a very personal and very important part of your body--your penis.

I'm going to give you some very strong advice from my perspective as someone who's a few years older than you and also uncircumcised. I'll try to summarize and be brief.

First, my perspective...
As an uncut guy, I really like how my foreskin feels. I like how it keeps my head sensitive, and I like how it glides on my glans when I masturbate, making the really sensitive head feel really intense and really good feelings. I've seen circumcised guys masturbate. They have nothing to grip, nothing to slide, and it results in a chafing motion all over their dicks. Also, even from 6 or 8 feet away in a locker room, you can see how dry and rough circumcised guys dick heads are. They look nothing like the supple, protected glans you're used to giving you pleasure if your current uncircumcised state.

I know you haven't had sex yet, but if you think it feels good to jack off with your foreskin now, let me tell you... It feels even better during sex. LIke the way the foreskin slides out of its protective skin as you enter the vagina, then you feel it right against the inside of the vagina, and it's pure pleasure. Not only do you get to fuck her and feel your dick in her, with your extra sensitive uncircumcised dick head, but you also get to feel your foreskin gliding back and forth giving even more stimulation to your penis. Words can not describe it. I always imagined sex would feel good, but like I was BLOWN AWAY then first time I did it.

It performs an important function, thats why you're born with one!
Everybody's born with a foreskin. Foreskin is a normal part of human anatomy. Depending on your point of view, humans either evolved to have a foreskin for a specific reason (to make sex feel good for men so they would enjoy it more and have more babies), or God designed the penis with a foreskin covering it for the same reasons, why is exactly why all mammals have a similar sheath covering their entire penis or at least the glans.


It sounds like you have a perfectly healthy, perfectly functioning foreskin. There is absolutely no medical reason to justify the procedure. In fact, your parents will almost certainly have to pay out of pocket for the entire cost in cash because almost no insurance company will pay for surgery or surgical procedures where there is no medical reason why the patient needs the surgery. (For example, health insurance doesn't pay for bo-tox, or cosmetic surgery, which is pretty much what this is.)

Parent's desiring circumcision seek to conform to an imagined social standard, not do what's in their child's best interest.
Ask your parents why they want you to get circumcised. Ask them if there's any medically wrong with your penis? Does your penis have a condition or a disease right now that you haven't been told about?

Most likely, they want you to get circumcised just so your penis will look like everyone else's. As someone with a different looking penis myself (and a fairly noticeable one with a kind of long, droopy foreskin) who plays sports all 3 seasons in high school is on occasion has to be naked in front of my team mates, it's so not an issue. There are plenty of other uncut guys, but even last season I moved up to varsity, and was the only uncut guy, and even after all the older guys saw it, it wasn't an issue. No one said anything.

It's also stupid for them to want to do it s you look like your dad's penis, or your brother's penis, or your cousins' penises, or whatever. Exactly when would this ever matter? Matching penises! What a crazy idea.

And, by the way, like 90% of guys in the US used to be circumcised, now it's down to less than 50%, even among white families. Parents have caught on to the fact that it's an unnecessary surgery.

How do girls feels about uncut penises?
As for how girls feel when it comes to foreskin, I have some first hand experience in this area. First of all, most girls everywhere, all over planet Earth, are pretty much only used to uncircumcised penis, and would find a circumcised penis to look weird and funny. However, as for American girls, provided that you've washed under your foreskin and it's not rank with stank under there, most American girls get totally fascinated by the extra skin. They tell me how easy I am to jack off, and they seem to love playing with the skin. It's like a new toy, and they're fascinated with it. (Not to mention, it feels very, very good having a girl touch your penis like that.)

Another reason not to do it: PAIN! It's going to hurt like hell.
Dude, it's going to HURT like fuck afterwards. I mean, you know how sensitive those parts of your penis are, and they're going to cut parts of it off with a knife, then stitch it back together with needles and sutures. It's going to look like frankenpenis when you first take the bandage off, and it's going to hurt like crazy. The penis is very densely innervated, which is to alert the penis when it's in danger from outside stimuli like hot, cold, rough objects, or start objects. When the local anesthetic wears off, there's going to be much PAIN, and it will take 2-3 weeks to heal even part way, and it will be at least that long again go on for weeks. Given the type of forces that the penis experiences in sex or masturbation, it'll probably be at least 4 - 6 weeks before you can use it again. That means no masturbation for probably a month AT MINIMUM.

PAIN (Part 2): Pain, pain, and more pain! (And pray you don't get hard!)
You're a teenage boy. Teenage boys get erections, even when they're not horny. They get erections for no reason at all, many times a day. However, when the skin of your penis has just been sliced apart, rearranged, then sewn back together with ditches, can you imagine how fucking back it would hurt to get an unintentional erection when your penis is all body and covered in stitches. You could even break some of the stitches, meaning more surgery.[

Risks of very serious complications
Just as with all surgical procedures, there are risks of serious complications associated with circumcision, including prolonged and/or uncontrolled bleeding, infection, and adverse reactions to one or more of the medications used during or after the procedure. Every year, a small but significant number of so-called "surgical errors" occur during circumcisions, ranging in severity from an inadvertent slip of surgeon's hand removing some unintended part of the penis to cases where the entire glans or more of the penis is severed or severely injured, affecting a man's basis biological functions, much less the ability to have a satisfying sex life or deal with the psychological implications of a severely damaged penis that may require years of reconstructive surgeries to even approximate the original organ.[/LIST]

In most states, that law states that you and only you have the right to make this particular medical decision.
In fact, laws are in place in almost all of the 50 states to protect teenagers from being subjected to medical interventions pertaining to their sexual health or sexual or reproductively-related surgeries when such interventions are against their wishes and without the patient's expressed written consent.

Legal help is available (e.g., Attorneys for the Rights of the Child (http://arclaw.org/), a fine organization of attorney's that protects children's rights to protect their own genitals from alteration.

Despite what your parents said, this is TERRIBLE timing when you're 13 years old!
If you were going to get it done. It soul shave been done when you were younger, 2, 3, or 4, when it would be less traumatic, less painful, and occur at a time when you weren't sexually active or masturbating. Masturbation has also been used to discourage masturbation, and what that may not be your parents intention, circumcision was encouraged all of the US and UK in Victorian era medical texts to keep boys from masturbating as even after they healed, it never felt as good any more.


The ball's in your court. Take action:


Ask your parents the reason why they want you to get circumcised, and evaluate it knowing there are no medical benefits to circumcision.

If their reasons don't make sense to you, or if they seem silly, or if you don't agree, research the issue yourself, and make an informed decision.


You parents (or even a misinformed doctor) may try to talk you into thinking that circumcision of a health teenager's penis has some medical benefits. But that's not what the world's leading physicians at the world's leading medical societies all speak with a common voice on the matter. Try running these past your doctor or your parents if they say it's "hygienic" or medically necessary:


The American Academy of Pediatrics, due to the risks associated with the surgery, does NOT recommend routine circumcision of healthy boys.



The American Medical Association supports this policy of the American Academy of Pediatrics, which does NOT recommend routine circumcision of healthy boys.



The Royal Dutch Medical Association issued a new policy in May 2010: "The official viewpoint of the Association is that non-therapeutic circumcision of male minors is a violation of children’s rights to autonomy and physical integrity. Contrary to popular belief, circumcision can cause complications – bleeding, infection, urethral stricture and panic attacks are particularly common. We are therefore urging a strong policy of deterrence. The Association is calling upon doctors to actively and insistently inform parents who are considering the procedure of the absence of medical benefits and the danger of complications and lack of appropriate medical benefits."



The College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia issued a statement on the group's official policy on the issue: "given the current understanding of the benefits, known risks, and potential harm [caused by routine circumcision], we can no longer support this practice. It is now considered a non-therapeutic and unnecessary medical intervention."



The Canadian Paediatric Society has adopted, "a policy against routine circumcision. [...] With the potential for complications and the lack of medically justifiable rationales, many paediatricians no longer perform routine circumcisions on healthy boys, even upon requests from parents."

jacob.riley
August 13th, 2012, 08:20 AM
Be diplomatic with your parents man! i was also born prematurely and the procedure couldnt get done. My parents recently brought the whole circumcision thing up and i knew that i didnt want to because apperently feels amazing during sex. and it does in masturbation too. i said that its my body, my penis and that was it. Hope this helps! :)

Telkanis
August 13th, 2012, 03:49 PM
Ok,
So first thanks for everyone's comments and advice. I have taken everyone's advice seriously but seriously fuck off if you don't think I'm mature enought to make the decision myself. And I'm not sueing my parent lol they're great parents. They're not forcing it but even if they were its not worth a lawsuit, screwing them over and pissing them off for the other 5 years I have to be with them.

I've talked a lot with my best friend who is cut and my cousin who had it done. I've also now talked to doctor doing it and my dad and basically decided to just do it. Dad suggested next week but it only gives me a week to recover before school so I'm doing it a beginning of Christmas break.

Sebastian Michaelis
August 13th, 2012, 04:32 PM
Wow, what an 'exquisitely wonderful' Christmas present…

I HIGHLY sugest taking a close look at this…

Dude,

I am going to strongly encourage you NOT to get circumcised. You could really regret it later, and there's no way to undo it once it's done. You're suck with it.
If you feel you might want to get circumcised, take your time, research it. Wait a year. There's no hurry, and could really regret it later

Circumcision is simply a cosmetic surgery with no medical benefits, and yet it permanently alters a very personal and very important part of your body--your penis.

I'm going to give you some very strong advice from my perspective as someone who's a few years older than you and also uncircumcised. I'll try to summarize and be brief.

First, my perspective...
As an uncut guy, I really like how my foreskin feels. I like how it keeps my head sensitive, and I like how it glides on my glans when I masturbate, making the really sensitive head feel really intense and really good feelings. I've seen circumcised guys masturbate. They have nothing to grip, nothing to slide, and it results in a chafing motion all over their dicks. Also, even from 6 or 8 feet away in a locker room, you can see how dry and rough circumcised guys dick heads are. They look nothing like the supple, protected glans you're used to giving you pleasure if your current uncircumcised state.

I know you haven't had sex yet, but if you think it feels good to jack off with your foreskin now, let me tell you... It feels even better during sex. LIke the way the foreskin slides out of its protective skin as you enter the vagina, then you feel it right against the inside of the vagina, and it's pure pleasure. Not only do you get to fuck her and feel your dick in her, with your extra sensitive uncircumcised dick head, but you also get to feel your foreskin gliding back and forth giving even more stimulation to your penis. Words can not describe it. I always imagined sex would feel good, but like I was BLOWN AWAY then first time I did it.

It performs an important function, thats why you're born with one!
Everybody's born with a foreskin. Foreskin is a normal part of human anatomy. Depending on your point of view, humans either evolved to have a foreskin for a specific reason (to make sex feel good for men so they would enjoy it more and have more babies), or God designed the penis with a foreskin covering it for the same reasons, why is exactly why all mammals have a similar sheath covering their entire penis or at least the glans.


It sounds like you have a perfectly healthy, perfectly functioning foreskin. There is absolutely no medical reason to justify the procedure. In fact, your parents will almost certainly have to pay out of pocket for the entire cost in cash because almost no insurance company will pay for surgery or surgical procedures where there is no medical reason why the patient needs the surgery. (For example, health insurance doesn't pay for bo-tox, or cosmetic surgery, which is pretty much what this is.)

Parent's desiring circumcision seek to conform to an imagined social standard, not do what's in their child's best interest.
Ask your parents why they want you to get circumcised. Ask them if there's any medically wrong with your penis? Does your penis have a condition or a disease right now that you haven't been told about?

Most likely, they want you to get circumcised just so your penis will look like everyone else's. As someone with a different looking penis myself (and a fairly noticeable one with a kind of long, droopy foreskin) who plays sports all 3 seasons in high school is on occasion has to be naked in front of my team mates, it's so not an issue. There are plenty of other uncut guys, but even last season I moved up to varsity, and was the only uncut guy, and even after all the older guys saw it, it wasn't an issue. No one said anything.

It's also stupid for them to want to do it s you look like your dad's penis, or your brother's penis, or your cousins' penises, or whatever. Exactly when would this ever matter? Matching penises! What a crazy idea.

And, by the way, like 90% of guys in the US used to be circumcised, now it's down to less than 50%, even among white families. Parents have caught on to the fact that it's an unnecessary surgery.

How do girls feels about uncut penises?
As for how girls feel when it comes to foreskin, I have some first hand experience in this area. First of all, most girls everywhere, all over planet Earth, are pretty much only used to uncircumcised penis, and would find a circumcised penis to look weird and funny. However, as for American girls, provided that you've washed under your foreskin and it's not rank with stank under there, most American girls get totally fascinated by the extra skin. They tell me how easy I am to jack off, and they seem to love playing with the skin. It's like a new toy, and they're fascinated with it. (Not to mention, it feels very, very good having a girl touch your penis like that.)

Another reason not to do it: PAIN! It's going to hurt like hell.
Dude, it's going to HURT like fuck afterwards. I mean, you know how sensitive those parts of your penis are, and they're going to cut parts of it off with a knife, then stitch it back together with needles and sutures. It's going to look like frankenpenis when you first take the bandage off, and it's going to hurt like crazy. The penis is very densely innervated, which is to alert the penis when it's in danger from outside stimuli like hot, cold, rough objects, or start objects. When the local anesthetic wears off, there's going to be much PAIN, and it will take 2-3 weeks to heal even part way, and it will be at least that long again go on for weeks. Given the type of forces that the penis experiences in sex or masturbation, it'll probably be at least 4 - 6 weeks before you can use it again. That means no masturbation for probably a month AT MINIMUM.

PAIN (Part 2): Pain, pain, and more pain! (And pray you don't get hard!)
You're a teenage boy. Teenage boys get erections, even when they're not horny. They get erections for no reason at all, many times a day. However, when the skin of your penis has just been sliced apart, rearranged, then sewn back together with ditches, can you imagine how fucking back it would hurt to get an unintentional erection when your penis is all body and covered in stitches. You could even break some of the stitches, meaning more surgery.[

Risks of very serious complications
Just as with all surgical procedures, there are risks of serious complications associated with circumcision, including prolonged and/or uncontrolled bleeding, infection, and adverse reactions to one or more of the medications used during or after the procedure. Every year, a small but significant number of so-called "surgical errors" occur during circumcisions, ranging in severity from an inadvertent slip of surgeon's hand removing some unintended part of the penis to cases where the entire glans or more of the penis is severed or severely injured, affecting a man's basis biological functions, much less the ability to have a satisfying sex life or deal with the psychological implications of a severely damaged penis that may require years of reconstructive surgeries to even approximate the original organ.[/LIST]

In most states, that law states that you and only you have the right to make this particular medical decision.
In fact, laws are in place in almost all of the 50 states to protect teenagers from being subjected to medical interventions pertaining to their sexual health or sexual or reproductively-related surgeries when such interventions are against their wishes and without the patient's expressed written consent.

Legal help is available (e.g., Attorneys for the Rights of the Child (http://arclaw.org/), a fine organization of attorney's that protects children's rights to protect their own genitals from alteration.

Despite what your parents said, this is TERRIBLE timing when you're 13 years old!
If you were going to get it done. It soul shave been done when you were younger, 2, 3, or 4, when it would be less traumatic, less painful, and occur at a time when you weren't sexually active or masturbating. Masturbation has also been used to discourage masturbation, and what that may not be your parents intention, circumcision was encouraged all of the US and UK in Victorian era medical texts to keep boys from masturbating as even after they healed, it never felt as good any more.


The ball's in your court. Take action:


Ask your parents the reason why they want you to get circumcised, and evaluate it knowing there are no medical benefits to circumcision.

If their reasons don't make sense to you, or if they seem silly, or if you don't agree, research the issue yourself, and make an informed decision.


You parents (or even a misinformed doctor) may try to talk you into thinking that circumcision of a health teenager's penis has some medical benefits. But that's not what the world's leading physicians at the world's leading medical societies all speak with a common voice on the matter. Try running these past your doctor or your parents if they say it's "hygienic" or medically necessary:


The American Academy of Pediatrics, due to the risks associated with the surgery, does NOT recommend routine circumcision of healthy boys.



The American Medical Association supports this policy of the American Academy of Pediatrics, which does NOT recommend routine circumcision of healthy boys.



The Royal Dutch Medical Association issued a new policy in May 2010: "The official viewpoint of the Association is that non-therapeutic circumcision of male minors is a violation of children’s rights to autonomy and physical integrity. Contrary to popular belief, circumcision can cause complications – bleeding, infection, urethral stricture and panic attacks are particularly common. We are therefore urging a strong policy of deterrence. The Association is calling upon doctors to actively and insistently inform parents who are considering the procedure of the absence of medical benefits and the danger of complications and lack of appropriate medical benefits."



The College of Physicians and Surgeons of British Columbia issued a statement on the group's official policy on the issue: "given the current understanding of the benefits, known risks, and potential harm [caused by routine circumcision], we can no longer support this practice. It is now considered a non-therapeutic and unnecessary medical intervention."



The Canadian Paediatric Society has adopted, "a policy against routine circumcision. [...] With the potential for complications and the lack of medically justifiable rationales, many paediatricians no longer perform routine circumcisions on healthy boys, even upon requests from parents."

Telkanis
August 13th, 2012, 04:49 PM
Dude, I looked at it. I talked about most of that stuff with the doctor and my dad today. I also talked with someone I know did it, my cousin. I trust his advice and opinion.

hockeyguy23
August 13th, 2012, 06:11 PM
Is this doctor a urologist? If so, what is his diagnosis? What disease or malady is he treating? That you have a healthy normal foreskin? If that's the case, then him operating on you is completely unethical. Why does your father want you to get circumcised? What is this sudden push to have part of your penis cut off after 13 years of no issues? Perhaps you might not realize, but this is absolutely bizarre behavior. I cannot imagine anybody approaching me, let alone a parent, and telling me that I should all of sudden cut off part of my nose or my earlobe or my foreskin. It would be beyond bizarre. If you think that you not going through with this will cause a rift between you and your parents, then I suggest that there might be some bigger issues at play here. Your doctor will only make money on you, if he had any sense and ethical standing he would discourage you and your parents from going through with this procedure.

kenshin
August 13th, 2012, 06:20 PM
listen don't get it done you will miss it and it is extremely painful. if you were to do it it should be when you want it done not your parents. so if i were you i would absolutely refuse because u will end up regretting it.

swimmerboy95
August 13th, 2012, 07:08 PM
No matter what anyone says man, its your body and you have the final say in what happens to it. Don't go through with anything you're uncomfortable doing. Im cut so I wouldn't know what its like but just follow your gut.

jay_
August 13th, 2012, 07:11 PM
I'm happy with being uncut!

andrethaiss
August 13th, 2012, 07:14 PM
Is this doctor a urologist? If so, what is his diagnosis? What disease or malady is he treating? That you have a healthy normal foreskin? If that's the case, then him operating on you is completely unethical. Why does your father want you to get circumcised? What is this sudden push to have part of your penis cut off after 13 years of no issues? Perhaps you might not realize, but this is absolutely bizarre behavior. I cannot imagine anybody approaching me, let alone a parent, and telling me that I should all of sudden cut off part of my nose or my earlobe or my foreskin. It would be beyond bizarre. If you think that you not going through with this will cause a rift between you and your parents, then I suggest that there might be some bigger issues at play here. Your doctor will only make money on you, if he had any sense and ethical standing he would discourage you and your parents from going through with this procedure.

Its HIS decision if he wants it done, too bad if you dont like his parents, stop asking him so many questions, hes just 13.

Telkanis
August 13th, 2012, 08:19 PM
Umm, the decision is made but I have time to back out. I think this is just going to become stupid fighting thing which is why was worried about posting in first place. So anything more just pm me. And I think I trust my parent friends and doctors more than some random guy with 2 posts.

Mod lock please?

sparkles
August 13th, 2012, 08:21 PM
Some people on here have been really rude to the OP.

Plenty of men are circumcised and have no issues and wonderful sex lives.
Also, many men are not and also have no issues and wonderful sex lives.

A lot of it comes down to culture. In the United States the "rate" has been declining and is probably somewhere in the 50% range. As recently as the 1980s it was in the high 80% area.

OP has clearly not disregarded the advice of anyone here and appears to have clearly thought out his decision. And if he regrets it later, he regrets it, however it is his decision to make.

When I first found out that all of my friends were cut and I was not I got really mad at my parents who offered to pay for the procedure. After meeting with a urologist and talking with people who had it done as teens I was dead set on doing it until the morning of the surgery when I backed out. At the time (12) I felt like I should give it more time before I decide on something so permanent.

I totally respect the OP for researching the decision in what seems like good detail.

Just a few questions though:

-Why do you parents want you to get it done? To fit in culturally? So you won't be different from other people? Because your other family members are?

-Did you talk with the doctor about what method will be used? Freehand? Clamp?

-Did you talk about style at all? High/low, Loose/tight, frenulum/no-frenulum?

I think all teens should have the option to decide on their own whether or not they want this done. It allows them to have "ownership" in the decision.

Scottydog
August 13th, 2012, 08:22 PM
I wouldn't do it:S

Luke91
August 13th, 2012, 08:27 PM
Dude, I looked at it. I talked about most of that stuff with the doctor and my dad today. I also talked with someone I know did it, my cousin. I trust his advice and opinion.

Before Telkanis made up his mind he talked to people he could trust. He used that information to make his decision. I call that mature. GOOD LUCK Telkanis. From my experience, you made the right choice.

Andore
August 13th, 2012, 11:05 PM
Good luck with your decision.

Don't be too dissmissive with people on here. You might be asking for their advice later on healing is all i'd advise since you've already made your choice

Have you been able to discuss how you want the operation done? Most guys I hear of who regret having it done generally didn't get to choose the way it was done

Jtyler
August 13th, 2012, 11:22 PM
If I were you I would never allow my parents or doctor to do that


So don't do it

Sudds3
August 13th, 2012, 11:29 PM
I am completely ok with being cut! I did go throu like a 2 week period where I wanted to be uncut...but I'm over it because it doesn't really matter. Just ask your doc for the pros and cons of being cut and uncut....then make the best descion for you based on those options.....I know the oppointment was today....but Idk....uhh good luck?

Wakesetter03
August 14th, 2012, 12:26 AM
Everyone needs to stop acting as if it's them getting cut.
The OP made his decision in a mature and intelligent way. Don't abuse him for chosing what HE feels it right.
FFS, half of the people abusing him are saying how it's unfair because boys don't get a choice then abuse someone who does choose? It defies belief.
OP, good luck to you. Ignore the idiots.

esby
August 14th, 2012, 12:32 AM
The OP made his decision in a mature and intelligent way. Don't abuse him for chosing what HE feels it right.

+1 exactly

Was presented with the facts and made his decision.

Dominic Reyes
August 14th, 2012, 02:34 AM
Dont, do it, it will not be just suffering from surgical pain but also sensitivity in the area for life. If its about hygiene an uncut dick can be washed.

ImCoolBeans
August 14th, 2012, 06:08 PM
OP request :locked: