The how and why of opiate addiction.

[Sordid Saint]

Many people think they know why heroin and oxy and percocets and the like are destructive and terrible for your life. But they don't really know the true reason behind it. So what does it feel like to do opiates such as heroin, oxy, percocet? Why is it so addictive?

I would read this long wall of text. It's a long read but it answers everything. :)

'Actually this is an obvious question but it's not what you might think. Let me explain it to you. I was an opiate addict and have tried many many drugs. Drugs that are "uppers" have the most obvious euphoria. For example if you take adderall/coke/meth/speed/mdma you will get this shining bright euphoria, self confidence, energy, and other drug-specific feelings (for meth like you are king, for mdma like you love everyone). However, you owe these drugs back for what they delivered to you. After a meth binge or lots of mdma use or staying up all night doing coke you will feel like shit. To an extent this is similar to an alcoholic hangover.

On the other hand, for many people who experiment with heroin are just underwhelmed. (not including IV usage, but many experimenters rarely use IV the first times anyway). They just feel good, chill, happy, but they feel like these spooky drugs "heroin, oxy, percs" hasn't delivered. They are just mellow. Oh obviously it has all been a lie they think. Heroin isn't spooky, it's chill. It's not addictive like everyone else thinks. It doesnt make you do stupid shit or stay up all night halllucinating like amphetamines and coke. It doesn't empty your serotonin like mdma or hungover like alcohol. People just tend to think oh, what a nice drug.

So the next day they wake up and everything is normal. No headache or shitty feeling - just an afterglow of that chill mellow feeling. Oh it was cheap as well! It only cost 10 dollars for a whole night of being high! I thought people said opiates are expensive? And then next weekend comes. There are all these drugs I could do, but I like heroin. It didn't "fuck me up", I could still think clearly. No hangover. No feeling like shit later. I was still awake. It just made me happy and content with life. Oh and its only 10 dollars! Well I should get more for the whole weekend, this is great, I will do opiates on the weekend now!

Now, lets say this person works and has responsibilities. He knows he can't go to work drunk, or on mdma or high. So he doesn't. It's actually simple. But opiates, the user might actually feel like they do better work on opiates. Instead of being sad or grumpy with his job, he is just... happy... Mellow, content. Everything is fine and the world is beautiful. It's raining, it's dark, i woke up at 5:30 AM, I'm commuting in traffic. I would have had a headache, I would have been miserable. I would have wondered how my life took me to this point. This point I'm at right now. But no no, everything is fine. Life is beautiful. The rain drops are falling and in each one I see the reflection of every person's life around me. Humanity is beautiful. In this still frame shot of traffic on this crowded bus I found just love and peace. Opiates are wonderful drugs. Opiates are better than everything else. Opiates make me who I wish I was. Opiates make life worth living. OPIATES ARE BETTER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE. Opiates build up a tolerance fast. Opiates start to cost more money. I need them to feel normal. I don't love anymore. Now I'm sick. I can't afford the drugs that I need. How did 10 dollars used to get me high? Now I need 100 dollars! That guy that let me try a few lines at first isn't actually a dealer. Now I have to find a real dealer? This guy is a felon and has guns. He can sell me the drugs that let me find love in the world.

NO!!! THIS ISN'T WORKING I NEED TO QUIT.

To answer what it's like, opiates feel nice. That is all. It just feels very nice. You can make the rest up for yourself. Attach your own half truths to this drug that will show you the world and for a moment you will feel as clever as Faust.'

So yes, opiates will fuck up your life, and drag you in like quicksand. Once you realize what's going on, you've already fucked up. I just kinda wanted to put this out there.

If you read the whole thing, +rep to you because it took a while, but even more than that it means a lot that people even take interest in HOW this drug is destructive instead of just pushing it off as this terrible thing that only bad people get addicted to.

Thank you :)

[Neverender]

So what does it feel like to do opiates such as heroin, oxy, percocet? Why is it so addictive?

Because people like to cuddle up to the warm glow of opiates. Same with my personal favorite of Alprazolam. Unless you have a way to physically cut yourself off from your supply, an addiction to benzos or opis will manifest itself deep within your subconscious mind out of a need for comfort and pleasure.

[Sordid Saint]

Because people like to cuddle up to the warm glow of opiates. Same with my personal favorite of Alprazolam. Unless you have a way to physically cut yourself off from your supply, an addiction to benzos or opis will manifest itself deep within your subconscious mind out of a need for comfort and pleasure.

Yes, which is what the OP was about, dont know how well of a job it did at explaining the whole point, but it is simple. It feels good, makes everything amazing, then you see yourself at the point where you can't get back to being sober without going through hell trying to quit. Everything is awful without it, until you find a way to get rid of it and carry on without it HAPPILY, which is the most important part. BEING HAPPY IS BETTER THAN EVERYTHING ELSE :)

[workingatperfect]

That was worth reading all of it, though I basically knew that. I've done various opiates, and got pretty into oxy for a few months. As heartless as this sounds, I'm glad i had a friend that was already pretty fucked from heroin and the like or I probably wouldn't have quit myself. Not that I'm glad she did drugs, it's completely ruined her life. But yeah. You get the point. Not gonna lie though, I do miss that content, calm feeling.

[Sordid Saint]

That was worth reading all of it, though I basically knew that. I've done various opiates, and got pretty into oxy for a few months. As heartless as this sounds, I'm glad i had a friend that was already pretty fucked from heroin and the like or I probably wouldn't have quit myself. Not that I'm glad she did drugs, it's completely ruined her life. But yeah. You get the point. Not gonna lie though, I do miss that content, calm feeling.

Exactly, I had no one to look at that was fucked up from it, besides a few dudes that I used to use with, but I thought it was THEM that was fucked up. Not from the drugs, I thought they were genuine fiends as bad as it sounds.

The closest thing I've found to the feeling of opiates, is LOVE. Love makes everything better in the same exact way that those drugs did for me. Yet, it's a hopeless path for me which gets me pretty fuckin sad at times lol. I enjoy my life though, I follow my instinct on what makes me happy, and recently i've been finding karma to actually be proving itself pretty true. But damn, love HONESTLY is almost equal to the feeling I got from ANY opiate be it oxy or heroin. :/ too bad its a rare find for me xD /self-loathing end

[workingatperfect]

Exactly, I had no one to look at that was fucked up from it, besides a few dudes that I used to use with, but I thought it was THEM that was fucked up. Not from the drugs, I thought they were genuine fiends as bad as it sounds.

The closest thing I've found to the feeling of opiates, is LOVE. Love makes everything better in the same exact way that those drugs did for me. Yet, it's a hopeless path for me which gets me pretty fuckin sad at times lol. I enjoy my life though, I follow my instinct on what makes me happy, and recently i've been finding karma to actually be proving itself pretty true. But damn, love HONESTLY is almost equal to the feeling I got from ANY opiate be it oxy or heroin. :/ too bad its a rare find for me xD /self-loathing end


Yeah, I remember there was this girl my brother was really good friends with and she was a track star and was beautiful and just generally awesome. And one night, after i'd been doing oxy for a while, I saw her and she was just soo... not the girl i had grown up with and I asked my brother what was wrong with her and he told me she'd been doing lots of opiates, and I just started crying. I knew that was it for me. So I cut off my source (boyfriend at the time) and stopped.

And yeah, i agree, love is a pretty similar feeling. And both put you through hell once you stop/break up. And both can be just as addictive. :/

[Sordid Saint]

Yeah, I remember there was this girl my brother was really good friends with and she was a track star and was beautiful and just generally awesome. And one night, after i'd been doing oxy for a while, I saw her and she was just soo... not the girl i had grown up with and I asked my brother what was wrong with her and he told me she'd been doing lots of opiates, and I just started crying. I knew that was it for me. So I cut off my source (boyfriend at the time) and stopped.

And yeah, i agree, love is a pretty similar feeling. And both put you through hell once you stop/break up. And both can be just as addictive. :/

Right, its such an overwhelming feeling when you realize what's going on. It's weird to think that that girl was in the same exact position that you were in at one time, but something got in the way thanks to her, and made you want to stop completely.

And as far as the love thing goes, you got it right on. Except opiates are WAY easier to get xD

I wanted to say too that i feel strong enough that I COULD use opiates again without getting pulled in, but I'm not sure, so I will just stay away lol. like, im trying to say that now that I know what happens, i could take them and know not to be a dumb ass and get addicted again. But still imma try to NOT do that lmao.

[workingatperfect]

Right, its such an overwhelming feeling when you realize what's going on. It's weird to think that that girl was in the same exact position that you were in at one time, but something got in the way thanks to her, and made you want to stop completely.

And as far as the love thing goes, you got it right on. Except opiates are WAY easier to get xD

I wanted to say too that i feel strong enough that I COULD use opiates again without getting pulled in, but I'm not sure, so I will just stay away lol. like, im trying to say that now that I know what happens, i could take them and know not to be a dumb ass and get addicted again. But still imma try to NOT do that lmao.

It definitely was.. overwhelming.. Of course, to say I stopped completely is only partially true. I still take benzos (xanex to be specific) from time to time for anxiety, but not enough to cause a problem, and I get it from my mom, so it's not like I can just get it whenever I want.

Yeah, sometimes I feel like I could handle doing it again, but I normally try to write it off as trying to justify doing it again by lying to myself haha.

[Listed MIA]

Interesting. Thanks for posting. i think about this a lot. i was involved in an accident and was given IV pain killers. Diamorphine i think. that was definitely euphoric. the feeling came on in seconds. and later after i'd had an operation i faked that i was in worse pain than i actually was just so i could feel like that again and pretend that i wasn't really in the situation i was in. i can see how people could easily get addicted to the feeling it gives, who wouldn't want to walk around feeling like that all the time? it's not something i'm planning on doing, though i think to be honest i would really like to. I'm not someone who could just do something once. everything i've started i've gotten addicted to or taken to the extreme. (both parents were drug addicts at one point, so i probably have an addictive personality)

[Sordid Saint]

It definitely was.. overwhelming.. Of course, to say I stopped completely is only partially true. I still take benzos (xanex to be specific) from time to time for anxiety, but not enough to cause a problem, and I get it from my mom, so it's not like I can just get it whenever I want.

Yeah, sometimes I feel like I could handle doing it again, but I normally try to write it off as trying to justify doing it again by lying to myself haha.

Oh no, I meant stop oxy or whatever opi you were taking completely :p I still get fucked up on whatever is around, which I guess I should try to stop but there isn't really a problem with it right now. And yeah, namely benzos, dxm, MDMA, even white. literally whatever is around I won't have a problem taking, besides opis, I think twice about them.

Anyway, to the person above this post, IV is a very very very strong way of taking opiates. It will get you fucked up like most addicts are looking for. So you, being in the hospital (I'm guessing? Lol) got the most powerful form, which doesn't really show the true nature of the drug. Like I said before, people who snort it will feel like the drug hasn't delivered all of what it can, it just feels very calm and chill. IV though, damn IV will make you feel like you're in a whole world made of marshmallows rainbows and pillows. Haha

[workingatperfect]

Oh no, I meant stop oxy or whatever opi you were taking completely :p I still get fucked up on whatever is around, which I guess I should try to stop but there isn't really a problem with it right now. And yeah, namely benzos, dxm, MDMA, even white. literally whatever is around I won't have a problem taking, besides opis, I think twice about them.


Yeah, I knew what you meant, but like, at the time i had planned to quit everything I was doing (excluding pot), not just the opiates. And that didn't work out. And I'm pretty much the same way, if it's not opiates I don't care, because the others I can handle. I am taking a break for now though. I don't even have enough money to smoke regularly :( let alone do stuff on top of that.

[Sordid Saint]

Yeah, I knew what you meant, but like, at the time i had planned to quit everything I was doing (excluding pot), not just the opiates. And that didn't work out. And I'm pretty much the same way, if it's not opiates I don't care, because the others I can handle. I am taking a break for now though. I don't even have enough money to smoke regularly :( let alone do stuff on top of that.

Ohh, ok I understand now. Yup money is a bitch a lot of the times, especially with cigarettes too D:. But nice work being able to take breaks from everything pretty much for a while. I know I would be ripping my hair out from boredom hahaha. Not saying be sober isn't fun, because it can be if you're in the right place :p. But with boring ass friends in this boring ass part of the city, there's not much to do xD

Also, quitting everything except for weed is a great idea in my opinion if you have LOTS of money, it's soo expensive with a tolerance lol. Yup other stuff is more fun but what other drug can you use without worrying about fucking up with it? :p

[paterico]

Because they make you feel good. I've never taken the big names like heroin, but I do take codeine and dihydrocodeine for pain. And they just make me feel content with life. And fuck I hate morphine, it itches like a bitch. Had to use it after an operation, twice. Hated the itch, but it did relax me.

[workingatperfect]

Ohh, ok I understand now. Yup money is a bitch a lot of the times, especially with cigarettes too D:. But nice work being able to take breaks from everything pretty much for a while. I know I would be ripping my hair out from boredom hahaha. Not saying be sober isn't fun, because it can be if you're in the right place :p. But with boring ass friends in this boring ass part of the city, there's not much to do xD

Also, quitting everything except for weed is a great idea in my opinion if you have LOTS of money, it's soo expensive with a tolerance lol. Yup other stuff is more fun but what other drug can you use without worrying about fucking up with it? :p

Oh, it's a bitch not doing anything at all, especially it being summer and everything and I live in a small town, where there's nothing to do lol. The guy above me though reminded me that I guess I have done an opiate since I quit. Don't know how I forgot about this, but just a few weeks ago I was doing lean quite a bit.

I agree. My tolerance doesn't seem to be an issue though. A couple years ago I was smoking every day for the whole second semester of school and my tolerance barely changed. But yeah, I can't think of anything else where you don't have to worry about anything.
another thing I've seen fuck people up is spice. I don't get the hype. It's expensive as hell, it typically tastes bad, the affects aren't even that good.. But I've seen people dropping out to work full time or ripping their friends off and stealing just for spice.

[Sordid Saint]

Oh, it's a bitch not doing anything at all, especially it being summer and everything and I live in a small town, where there's nothing to do lol. The guy above me though reminded me that I guess I have done an opiate since I quit. Don't know how I forgot about this, but just a few weeks ago I was doing lean quite a bit.

I agree. My tolerance doesn't seem to be an issue though. A couple years ago I was smoking every day for the whole second semester of school and my tolerance barely changed. But yeah, I can't think of anything else where you don't have to worry about anything.
another thing I've seen fuck people up is spice. I don't get the hype. It's expensive as hell, it typically tastes bad, the affects aren't even that good.. But I've seen people dropping out to work full time or ripping their friends off and stealing just for spice.

Lol yummy lean! And I bet you can find SOMETHING to entertain yourself, or no? For me I just go into the city or I'll stay home all day on the computer or watching tv xD, when there isn't anything to do. But there's no way that I could do that every day haha

[Texas warrior]

that is a good read.

[Decim]

I really don't mind being addicted to codeine.

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